Texas vs OU: Beating the Sooners in September
Maybe the thing that most drove me crazy during the previous coordinator regime was the way that the Texas offense would so often tip-toe through as much of the early season as possible. It was a tendency that afflicted Texas for many years and manifested itself in a variety of ways, from holding back contributor-ready freshmen like Cedric Benson, to playing things as vanilla as early season opponents allowed.
Under the old approach, we would begin trying to unleash our full range of capabilities only when finally confronted by the most dangerous opponents -- more often than not, on the first Saturday in October, or even more frustrating, the week after. In virtually every case, it was too late.
There are two fundamental problems with such an approach. The first is a self-inflicted wound: it takes time and practice to develop something -- whether a player, or play, or series of plays constituting a broader game plan. It's great to have weapons at your disposal, but weapons aren't most effective until you sight their scopes; it takes some repetition and some honing before they start to become dangerous, and you want to do that work before your biggest battles.
The second problem is an aid to the opposition: such an approach makes the job of preparing to defend exponentially easier, allowing defenders to play fast and aggressively, without having to do too much thinking. Even a split second of hesitation caused by thinking can be the difference between a defender arriving in time to make a tackle and only getting an arm on the ball carrier. While an offense can do some new things on game day to try to make the defense start to think -- to hesitate -- the limits on how much it can effectively debut mean the costs to the offense quickly overwhelm the benefits. With rare exceptions, you're not likely to reinvent yourself successfully in one week, and with little to fear, and little to think about... defenders have little reason to hesitate.
The Harsinwhite Approach
In sharp contrast to the old approach, Harsinwhite have been busy this September systematically and strategically building out a diverse and dynamic offense, and using/developing all of the contributor-ready personnel. Harswhite played 8 true freshmen (Ash, Brown, Cochran, Flowers, Bergeron, Moss, Onyegbule, and Shipley) in the season opener versus Rice -- as many or more true freshmen in one game, on just one side of the ball, than the total number of freshmen (both sides of the ball) who saw the field in 2000 (8 freshmen played), 2001 (6), 2003 (5), and 2004 (7). Two weeks later against UCLA, 23 different players took snaps... in the first quarter alone.
To re-emphasize: all this has been very systematic. Eight true freshmen played against Rice, but most have been brought along a thoughtful schedule. Though he could have pounded out 25+ carries a game, Malcolm Brown was limited to 16 carries against Rice (mostly in the 2nd half), 14 against BYU, 22 at UCLA, and 15 against Iowa State, shielding him from excess pounding, keeping him fresh, and limiting his exposure to injury. Likewise, David Ash has been used incrementally more in each successive game, adding more and more to his arsenal each week. Both Flowers and Cochran got their toes wet early and though still learning are now out there swimming in the ocean. The net result is that because these young players have already been given time and direction in development, they're in much better position to contribute well this Saturday than they would have been had they gotten their first meaningful action in the big game itself.
The development of the playbook has developed in lockstep with the personnel. Although each week Texas has expanded upon and added variations to the offense, the full, dynamic template was there in the opener. There was no restrained offense for more manageable opponents, nor any thought of trying to save away a more dynamic version of the offense for tougher opponents down the road. Likewise, there has been no thought of hiding away expansions and variations on the base offense. To the contrary, expansions and variations have been regularly and systematically introduced, each building or expanding on the foundation beneath it.
Like with the personnel, the net result is a deep, broad, flexible, complex, and dynamic offensive foundation that provides us with a huge volume of options, and a dangerous layer of interplaying variations. Take, for instance, Fozzy in the Wildcat (except when it's Jaxon, of course), a play with nearly a dozen options that we've seen, and several more that you can't assume we won't run just because we haven't yet to date. We've seen Fozzy play action to the right and sprint out to the left edge. We've seen Fozzy play action to the left and run a counter draw up the middle. We've seen Fozzy hand it off to a receiver to pass. It's hard to keep track of everything we've seen out of that one base look. We've seen Fozzy hand it off to start a reverse flea flicker, and we've seen Jaxon Shipley as the point man in the Wildcat. Without going back over the play-by-play box scores, I'd wager no Texas fan could accurately list each variation we've run from that one set of looks.
Which is, of course, the point. Showing the defense something simple and understandable doesn't leave defenders worried about what you're hiding; it merely simplifies their objectives and focuses their actions. By contrast, it is difficult to imagine not hesitating while trying to defend Texas when it lines up in the Wildcat. Among the thoughts racing through a defender's head pre-snap: "Okay, is it Shipley or Whittaker taking the snap? Is the setback to his side or are they doing that stack thing? They're unbalanced on the left, which coach said they do one of two things from here, one to the left, one to the right, except also to be aware of the play fake and pass."
There are a dizzying number of variations on the same and similar plays and formations, and it can be a challenge to keep track of even while carefully reviewing film one play at a time. In live action, it's got to be awfully difficult not to lean, or guess, or -- God forbid -- hesitate, any and all of which Bryan Harsin is watching for like a hawk from the skybox. The whole system is built around creating those small advantages, and running subsequent plays very specifically designed to exploit precisely those advantages.
To be sure, no amount of intelligent design can overcome the fact that this young Texas offense will have to execute well to score touchdowns and beat the Sooners. But in a year in which Oklahoma is at a peak in the talent cycle and Texas is ramping back up from a valley, it's incredibly encouraging and exciting to see the way that this offensive staff has systematically developed both the playbook and personnel. We are a deeper, more flexible, and more dynamic offense than we would or could have been under another approach, and consequently we are a more difficult offense to prepare for, more difficult offense to key in on, and an offense more capable of finding and exploiting advantages that can help us compete.
And to think, this staff is just getting started...
Hook 'em
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So true...
The first three paragraphs made me cheer. OU will be extremely tough to beat but the new coaching staff actually has me believing we stand a chance if we play almost perfectly. Or at least I know we’ll have tried our best and brought an intelligent game plan even if we can’t pull the upset.
If this coaching staff sticks around for a while, Texas will become formidable again and improve week by week. It is now actually fun to watch this team. And to think of next year’s recruits being added to the mix is even more exciting.
Beat OU!
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Would people take a loss to OU and a win against OSU? I think I would be ecstatic with that outcome. Or would it be better to beat OU and then lose to OSU at home? What do people think?
Who are you?!
I'm Kick Ass!
I think ecstatic might not be the right word.
too strong.
Who are you?!
I'm Kick Ass!
by TexasGarcia37 on Oct 5, 2011 8:45 PM CDT up reply actions
I would really much rather just win them both.
I think we have the potential to do so.
But I would much rather take the win over Ou than OSU
"Slammed that hoe on the counter like I just got 35 on the domino table!!"
Sherrod Harris
Right now I dont care about rankings
I will take beating OU any day. OSU I do not dislike as much. If we can end the season with 10 wins and a loss to OSU and one other (except OU and A&M, I think it will be K-State, they have got our number), I would be estatic.
Greg Davis... Gone!
You are right
Didn’t think it through.
Who are you?!
I'm Kick Ass!
by TexasGarcia37 on Oct 5, 2011 8:47 PM CDT up reply actions
Don't get me wrong. If we beat OU I will be ecstatic.
That’s the right word. Seeing Stoops’ pouty face is soothing to my soul.
Nothing is worse than Oklahoma. Nothing. And thus, no victory is sweeter. Not 50 years ago, not 50 years from now.
OU sucks.
I would rather take the win against Okie St and here's why:
How much would it suck to beat OU and come back home and lose? Completely stops any momentum we have and go into a bye week with a loss.
I believe it would show a lot of mental toughness to lose to OU and then come back the next week and beat a Top 10 team that spanked us last year.
Of course I would rather go 2-0 but if a loss is for sure, I would rather take a tough loss to OU and come back the next week and get a win going into the bye.
Do not be distracted by what you see, but be transformed by what you believe.
Oh, a win over OU would be sweeter by a large margin
First, the pure joy of ruining their MNC run (or at least taking them out of the driver’s seat). Second, the I’d rather have the win over the higher ranking team, especially in a rebuilding year. Third, I prefer to beat Oklahoma because $#@! Oklahoma!
BTW PB, your post is money. Given the state of the program at the end of 2010, to be in a position where it is even in the realm of reasonable possibility to win an RRS against a BCS title contending OU squad — that’s amazing. I wonder if people realize how remarkable it is. When you’re returning no offensive playmakers (and only a couple defensive ones), changing systems on both sides off the ball, over-hauling the staff, rooting out attitude problems, and starting a bunch of greenhorns — that’s supposed to be a particularly virulent “rebuilding year”.
I have already made a deal with the devil to trade three losses against teams later this season for a win against OU
Two losses if one is named Aggie.
That was the deal and I signed it.
Obviously winning both would be ideal, but I'd rather lose to OU than aggy this year
This is eff-you-aggy time.
"Anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that 'my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.'"
― Isaac Asimov
by burntorangehorn on Oct 6, 2011 5:18 PM CDT up reply actions
Fozzy's pass out of the wildcat
I can already imagine multiple variations coming out of this. Right now its a predetermined run or pass. But we have to remember that once the run in going to say the left side of the field, there are potential WRs/TEs free middle and right of the field. I can easily imagine Harsin making this a single read run. If the handoff occurs to Shipley, he reads the safety, if the safety runs in to make the tackle, he throws it to one of two receivers, either on the left or the right side. If not, he makes a run for it.
The more I think about it the more it makes me dizzy.. there are myriad variations that can be installed here with little coaching and reps. You can already see why Harsin and BSU always went for smarter football players.
Greg Davis... Gone!
If the power of positive thinking were a reality, and if I were the Texas Longhorns, OU would already have lost this game
I OU is an elite team with countless legitimate weapons. I know Texas is young, has very little experience in the program, let alone the schemes, and is just coming off a terrible year with two questionable quarterbacks taking over for a five-star talent who just didn’t bloom for UT. But if these coaches have made preparing for OU an enabling objective in every other week so far this season, and if the playcalling is masterful, and if the adjustments keep OU from seizing the momentum, then maybe, just maybe, these young Longhorns can beat the fuck out of Oklahoma.
"Anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that 'my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.'"
― Isaac Asimov
by burntorangehorn on Oct 5, 2011 10:57 PM CDT reply actions
I share your outlook 100%.
OU, their fans and the nation aren’t expecting more from Texas than to be a scrappy out in a rivalry game. This team has the talent and the scheme to beat OU convincingly imo. Not by a couple points but by a couple scores. All this comes down to is execution. We can’t make mistakes. If we play a close to perfect game, we’re golden. If we get a couple bad breaks, I think OU survives and I do mean survives.
My source close to the program can beat up your source close to the program!
Again, it reminds me of 2008
We had the talent that year, and just wanted it more.
I think this is a trap game for OU.
I honestly think we’ve got as much talent on the field on offense as anyone in the country, with possibly one of the best coordinators.
I think our defense is one of the best in the country, top 10 material by the end of the season.
If we can limit our mistakes, we’re going to catch the Sooners off guard.
Peter (or others):
Are we getting all these players on the field because (1) we’re deeper in the talent area than we’ve been in recent seasons, or (2) because this is a way to develop talent while having the potential to confuse defenses?
Obviously, it could be both. Guess what I’m really asking is were the previous coaches simply unwilling to play more than a bare number of players on offense, or was the talent so thin that the GD offensive staff had no choice?
I'm guessing part of it is GD
Like how DJ Monroe couldn’t find a way to get on the field. Odd how now it seems like he found his way pretty easily.
TEXAS FIGHT
thoughts
I seem to think that GD came from the old school where 11 or 12 guys played and the rest earned their spot. If your older by default your better and are less likely to make mistakes(time in the system.) o-line could revolve due to fatigue receivers by personal but 11 or 12 guys were playing and if your a freshman, well you aint earned my trust yet.
Hardin seems to want the best player that fits the niche of the play to play.
Joe "Effing" Parker
by longhorn35 on Oct 6, 2011 6:24 AM CDT via iPhone app up reply actions
auto correct is not my friend.
Joe "Effing" Parker
by longhorn35 on Oct 6, 2011 6:25 AM CDT via iPhone app up reply actions
OU Defense
It must pretty funny to see how OU is trying to prepare for our offense… “watch out for whitaker on that wildcat b.s.,” “also watch out for shipley on the sweep,” “oh and make sure to keep an eye out for monroe who might or might not be a decoy,” “wait also be careful for those god damn flea flickers,” “oh and lastly stop that malcom brown kid and stuff the power run game”
Haha poor sooner’s defense heads must be spinning
by jtdoes on Oct 6, 2011 1:38 AM CDT via mobile reply actions
if they are expecting all these multiple approaches maybe we should go back to bubble screens
lol jk
formerly "Horns102591"
Greg Davis
Joe Parker
ntwhills
See ya later, alligator.
Plays per game
How does our Longhorn defense deal with the up-tempo nature of OU’s offense? They’re #5 in plays per game. Texas is #78
Hook Em Horns!
How:
1) Simple assignments
2) Upperclassmen leadership
3) Get in Landry’s face, hit Landry, hit broyles, hit Landry, hit Landry, make Stoops cry.
"The only sport that should be cried over is tee ball."
- don't remember who said it, but I like it.
by HookTech on Oct 6, 2011 10:05 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
agreed
we definitely can’t do worse than last yr… we gave up 14 pts while our guys were checking their plays on their wrists…
Hopefully Diaz has practiced this and we’ll be ready from the get go but we’ll see on Saturday.
i agree though.. we must hit, hit and hit landry into submission and never let him get comfortable. I think we will give up 1 or 2 TD’s because OU beats our blitz but for 4 qtrs i think this is a winning philosophy
I think a well placed, well timed Kenny V hit has a huge impact in this game.
"The only sport that should be cried over is tee ball."
- don't remember who said it, but I like it.
I don't envy Diaz tasked with finding an answer to Jones to Broyles/Stills.
But if there’s anyone I envy less, it’s Brent Venables.
"The only sport that should be cried over is tee ball."
- don't remember who said it, but I like it.
by HookTech on Oct 6, 2011 9:49 AM CDT via mobile reply actions
I think Broyles might be the best player in the Big 12
"Anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that 'my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.'"
― Isaac Asimov
by burntorangehorn on Oct 6, 2011 10:27 AM CDT up reply actions
I wouldn't argue with that.
I just think Diaz vs. OU offense is more about matchups and execution, whereas Venables is finding himself in more of a chess match vs a formidable opponent.
"The only sport that should be cried over is tee ball."
- don't remember who said it, but I like it.
by HookTech on Oct 6, 2011 10:52 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
I like this coaching philosophy...
…on both offense and defense, it looks like it’s brought the fun back into Texas football and allows them to better discover, develop and leverage the talent that Texas brings in every year. It has to improve our chances on the recruiting trail when “everyone plays” as well as providing the incentive for players to practice and prepare with more intensity.
Question: To me, Brian Harsin is the offensive coordinator, period. I didn’t like Mack’s “co-coordinator” title and thought he would have learned from the Mac Duff/Akina experiment; that Harsin and Applewhite are making this work is a credit to them both. Do we know what Major Applewhite is actually contributing at this point?
Well, potentially the worst thing that could have happened last year but didn't...
… would have been to lose Applewhite. Keeping him on board was a big reason why they were able to keep that recruiting class together. Remember that Applewhite and Muschamp were awfully tight when Coach Boom was on campus, and Applewhite may have seen himself as the best choice for OC. So rewarding him for his loyalty with a title upgrade was a good idea IMO. The trick I imagine is to define the roles/responsibilities very clearly so there is no room for ambiguity or territoriality. I assume Mack did that (especially with regards to who’s the game day play caller), because it seems to be working smoothly.
Checkers vs Chess
What Harsin is doing is beyond my comprehension (football-wise). Funny thing, what Davis did is also beyond my comprehension (humanity).
harsin
what i like about Harsin is even if (and that’s a big IF) Venable comes out with a good scheme to start the game… Harsin will adjust during the game accordingly and try something else to keep the pressure on OU.
It’s great to know that if we lose to OU, it won’t be because we got outcoached or outschemed which is music to my ears
Regarding point 2
I think you are overrating the complexity of the Wildcat. Reality is, it is still 11 players on the field, 8 gaps you have to defend in the running game, 6 zones to defend in the passing game.
For the manner in which Harsin uses the wildcat, ypu can actually defend is the same way you defend the triple option, don’t worry about play action, just play assignment football and play the man, not the ball.
by Beergut on Oct 6, 2011 1:03 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
I think you are oversimplifying defending it.
“don’t worry about play action, just play assignment football and play the man, not the ball.”
You aren’t factoring in player execution, getting suckered in, playing overly aggressively, and human nature responding to recognized patterns with knee jerk reactions. I would love to see you calling defensive plays against Harsin and see how that turns out.
"The only sport that should be cried over is tee ball."
- don't remember who said it, but I like it.
I think his reaction is kind of the whole point
don’t worry about play action, just play assignment football and play the man, not the ball.
If the defense does this, Harsin wins. His base plays are made to win games against honest football, and his constraint plays are there to keep the defense from cheating.
If we can go to the Wildcat and you play honest defense, we’re going to be successful.
If we go to the Wildcat, and you cheat by trying to jump on the running game, we’ll have Ash throw a TD pass out of a reverse.
Harsin’s plan is to force the defense to play honest football, and then beat them at the point of attack.
The problem with “just playing assignment football” is that the offense has an advantage in that scenario.
Disagree
We’re talking assignment football, not normal gap sound defense. Let’s look at Oklahoma’s defense against texas’ wildcat.
OU has played a 33 Stack their last two games to start the game, but let’s say they’re in a 4-3.
You have Casey Walker at NT, David King at DT, Ronnell Lewis at WDE, Frank Alexander at SDE. Travis Lewis is at SLB, Tom Wort is MLB, and Corey Nelson is WLB. Jamell Fleming is Boundary CB, Demontre Hurst is the Field CB, Aaron Colvin is the SS, Tony Jefferson is the FS.
Now, if we put Shipley in shotgun, Whitaker as the tailback, and Cody Johnson and DJ Monroe stacked behind the TE, we have texas’ wildcat. Instead of saying, ‘Walker you have strong A, Wort you have weak A, etc’, and playing gap control, you just say, Wort, you have Whitaker, Lewis, you have Shipley, Nelson has Monroe, and Fleming has Johnson. If the single receiver goes in motion, Hurst goes with him, if he goes out for a pass, Jefferson assists in coverage. Assignment football, you don’t give a damn who has the ball, just go get your man. Period.
by Beergut on Oct 6, 2011 4:02 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Simplifying it allows you to play aggressive
You are going to get suckered in, b/c you’re playing the skill position player, not reading linemen. You’re going to get your man and trust your teammates to do the same. Taking the read out of it makes it easier for the defense.
by Beergut on Oct 6, 2011 4:07 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Correction
You aren’t going to get suckered in……
by Beergut on Oct 6, 2011 4:08 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
I don't have time to argue this right now,
how about we come back to this thread Saturday evening and assess the success of the wildcat plays. After all, the proof is in the pudding. Are you in for that?
"The only sport that should be cried over is tee ball."
- don't remember who said it, but I like it.
OU v.s. TX
Pretty funny to see all of you Texas bubbas talk about how better TX is. I admit that your team is good, but we’ll see how really good they are when OU plays on Saturday against them. ;) Good luck!
SOONER FAN
I'll be rooting for Texas but I'm also a realist and know this team
is an underdog for a reason. If OU does win out and makes it to the NC, I’ll be rooting for you guys to stomp the living shit out of whoever the SEC sends to the game.
Hook Em Horns!
I'm rooting for the SEC to just blow it and not send anyone
I’m pretty sick of this SEC nonsense. They have the geographic advantage during the bowl season that exaggerates any potential superiority that might arguably exist. Many ignore rules and good order. Some are downright slimy. I used to think that I would root against OU in any and every bowl until the end of time, but I’m starting to think that even OU would be better than another SEC win. If they do make it, though, ideally it’d be Stanford destroying the Sooners by at least a few touchdowns.
"Anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that 'my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.'"
― Isaac Asimov
by burntorangehorn on Oct 8, 2011 2:33 AM CDT up reply actions
Landry
Landry = BOMARED !!!
…just picture this….and look forward to the new description of being “LANDRYED!!!”
As I said in an earlier thread, Landry'd is the new Bomar'd.
"Anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that 'my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.'"
― Isaac Asimov
by burntorangehorn on Oct 8, 2011 2:34 AM CDT up reply actions
how did that work out?
Better get to know the opponents & those guys attempting to play football @ UTexass before making those type of statements.
Lots of broken hearts & dashed hopes on BON after last Sat.
Boomer!
The one thing being a lot older has going for it, most of us older have seen more CFB than most younger people have seen web pages.
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