Texas Football 2011: Mack Brown Monday Press Conference Preview - Week 9
Mack Brown will meet the press this morning at 11:00 a.m. local time. As with all of his pressers, you can watch the streaming action live on TexasSports.TV.
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Disheartened. Dejected. Disjointed.
As you know, starting last Friday morning, the Longhorn Network streamed broadband coverage until 12:00 a.m. this morning. The post game coverage after Saturday's game included Mack Brown taking questions outside the Longhorn locker room. He really looked battle hardened and poised. And it was all he could do not to be critical of the officials in what could be argued as a one-sided called game, especially the "deflating" call against Kenny Vaccaro in the 2nd quarter. Add to this the critical injuries to both senior leaders Whittaker and Robinson and it's a wonder Mack took questions at all.
But grace under fire is his forte. And while he expressed disappointment in the offensive performance, he still managed to give a wink and a nod to his defense which played a whale of a ball game. This is the first loss to Missouri Coach Brown has notched. And it is the first game since OU 2004 that Texas failed to score a touchdown.
The Missouri offense came in averaging over 500 yards and 35+ points per game. The Texas defense had a different idea and held them to less than 400 and only 17 points. Emmanuel Acho led the way and was rewarded with another College Football Performance Awards honorable mention, his second in consecutive weeks. The Wuerfel Trophy finalist and Lott Trophy semi-finalist posted 12 tackles of which 7 were solo and 4 were TFL, 2 PBU, 1 QBH, and one FF on the opening drive of the game with our backs to the end zone. That is an ALL MAN effort. Alex Okafor and Jackson Jeffcoat also get big props for working the edge and containing Franklin who only rushed for 33 yards. They blew it up for 18 tackles, 2 sacks, and 2 TFL's between them.

About the only criticism offered to the defense is the lack of great speed in the defensive backfield. Akina leads the effort at DBU, but he can't teach speed. Texas needs to find an answer to this.
My hope is that today when team awards are announced, the Hard Hat goes to Machete (Vaccaro). That would be about the only way Mack could send a message to the Big 12 office for the game changing helmet-to-helmet questionable penalty call.
On special teams, unfortunately the blocked punt and missed extra-long field goal overshadow the great day Justin Tucker had on punting which found him also gaining a College Football Performance Award honorable mention punter nod. He averaged 45.3 yards on eight punts with 4 of those inside the Mizzou 20-yard line. And what a day Leroy Scott had, with the punt block that resulted in a ST safety and great field position for the offense after the ensuing punt.
Offensively, the Longhorns just plain old stunk. It is probably easy to point to one area and proclaim the game turned on its bad play. The fact is that as a unit, regardless of the hand that was dealt with the injuries, they regressed to OU game output. In spite of Jeremy Hills and DJ Monroe working hard to shore up the rushing attack, the synchronization we had witnessed the last three games was just MIA. And this was most evident in the passing game.
Coach Brown said many times leading up to the game the Horns would have to throw the ball to win given the defensive front line of Missouri was about as well a seasoned crew the team had faced all season. But throwing best describes what occurred as there was scant evidence of actual passing and catching. We did not see a lot of that going on regardless of which quarterback was trotted onto the field. And make no mistake, it takes a team effort working together to make a passing attack work. The line has to give the quarterback ample time to complete passes. The receivers have to work to find holes in the coverage. Everybody has to be on the same page. They say practice makes perfect. Is it possible our passing game is not coming along due to who they are practicing against? Not sure on that one but I will be keeping my eye on the statements as to why we are not seeing production on the field with the "good" reports seeping out of practice sessions.
One note in this regard. David Ash is about as mature a young man as they come. In his post game remarks to Samantha Steele, he shouldered the offensive setback. I was very impressed with his maturity and leadership in this regard.
This is largely countered with seeing the new co-offensive coordinator, Brian Harsin, throwing his team under the bus. Contrast his comments with Diaz who repeatedly takes responsibility for the defensive performance. When the defense performs badly, he takes responsibility. When the defense performs admirably, he is quick to say it is due to the player's performances. Not to be prickly, but Harsin needs to understand the way he communicates after a win or a loss is equally important to what he says during practice as it affects player morale and their psyche. It is easy for an arm-chair fan to sit back and criticize when not actually performing those duties, but leading organizations has taught me that the Diaz approach is the way to go. So note to Harsin: Get this fixed. There are long-time Texas fans and supporters watching your moves as much or more than what happens on the field.
With that said, the offense just did not stand a chance as it's 1st, 2nd, and 3rd running back options were out with injuries and none larger than the senior leader Fozwhitt Whittaker.
It was announced last night that Fozzy will undergo season ending surgery after tearing both his ACL and MCL during a 1st quarter run on Saturday. Horns up to this warrior. His senior leadership on the offense as the best Red Zone producer on the team, along with his kick return threat, will be sorely missed and sadly irreplaceable. And to make matters worse, senior MLB Keenan Robinson was sidelined early in the game with a hand injury resulting in him coming out of the locker room in his airplane clothes.
Coach Brown will again remind Longhorn Nation how injuries are evaluated and who has the ultimate say in who plays and who sits. The burden rests on head football trainer Kenny Boyd's shoulders and his alone. It is easy to wish players on the field but their safety and concern is tantamount. I don't envy his role.
It was heartening to hear Emmanuel Acho and Blaine Irby expressing their love and prayers for Fozzy. It was also good to hear Mack express his well wishes after the game to Missouri Tiger running back Henry Josey who also suffered a terrible season ending knee injury during the game. We often fail to remember the human side of players and coaches. It might do us some good to focus more on that given the recent college football story lines.
Regarding the Horns next opponent, Kansas State, expect a full run down of stats and platitudes. And rightly deserved. Kansas State is now in the driver seat for a top-tier bowl game. Texas has a great opportunity this Senior Night to knock back those chances a rung or two.
It would be perfectly understandable to be overly critical of these Longhorns but the truth is this is a developing team. A young team. A team full of masons rebuilding a program. Brick-by-brick.
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Can we get a caption contest for that Mack pic? Is he on Faurot field? Looks like he’s rolling his ankle as the camera took the picture.
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Is he on Faurot field?
Growing up in Columbia during the 1970s it was not uncommon to drive by the football stadium and see that pranksters had rearranged the letters on the stadium sign to read “Far Out Field”.
From a ghost from the past
Yes,texas was my enemy and all that being from nebraska. But i had to comment on that caption,while people comment on a lot of stuff with Texas,no on can dispute this, Mack Brown is truly a class act.
by Omahusker on Nov 14, 2011 6:22 AM CST reply actions 1 recs
Oh,and i was speakaing of him checking on Josey of course
not the ankle pic
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For comment on Mack. As stated in the article:
“We often fail to remember the human side of players and coaches. It might do us some good to focus more on that given the recent college football story lines.”
I love our coach and what he stands for the University of Texas. His comments with reporters immediately after the game on LHN were a clear indication of his character and strength. In light of all the crap that has happened over the past week in college football, I am proud to be a Texas-Ex and with Mack Brown at the head of the ship!
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As a Mizzou guy, I have to second the thought
For all the issues that we have with Texas (and we have issues), Mack is clearly a classy guy, and I have to pay my respect to that.
by Wan Ihite on Nov 14, 2011 1:45 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Vacarro's hit...worst call and biggest game changer i have seen in a long time
i suggest we flood the Big 12 office with feedback regarding the hit Vaccaro deleivered….i spoke to Ed Stewart who heads up Football in their offices and voiced my concern…if anyone else would like to do the same, have at it
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Pardon the typos. Where is the splchec?
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Mizzou-friendly officiating
Is it me, or did I imagine several non-calls for holding on Mizzou? I thought the refs really blew the game.
by Inveigled&Foozled on Nov 14, 2011 8:44 AM CST up reply actions
I saw a few
but admittedly, when they ran, I looked for holds, when we ran I closed my eyes.
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Funny
I try to ignore our holds too, and I’m looking for theirs as well …
by Inveigled&Foozled on Nov 14, 2011 12:31 PM CST up reply actions
The mood changed at my viewing party after that shitty call on Vacarro.
It was like the air was sucked out of the room.
Hook Em Horns!
I went for a very long run ...
Mostly because I was getting ready to blow a fuse and couldn’t express myself with the type of adjectives I prefer at those times … I couldn’t believe what I had seen. I spent the next hour dodging cars and stray dogs … Needless to say, I was still mad when I got back.
by Inveigled&Foozled on Nov 14, 2011 8:50 AM CST up reply actions
Don't hang your hat on the Vaccaro call. Hang your hat on this - the offense scored 3 points. End of story.
Proud of your offense? Manny badger don't give a shit!
with the score 7-3 instead of 14-3
the game would most likely been quite different.
I am not saying UT would have won. I am not saying the offense would have been stellar (in most probability with our 3 top running backs out and our top reciever in austin the O would have struggled). What i am saying is that Texas to win with all the injuries it had had to play a great defense (which it did) and play great special teams (and they were good but somewhat mixed) and the breaks had to go thier way…which they did not in huge part to the terrible officiating of which the Vacarro hit was the greatest example and in my opinion the game changer. That flag also sucked the air out of the bar from where we were watching.
Pardon the typos. Where is the splchec?
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1 RB
Between Brown and Joe and Texas wins by 10 points.
One Missouri didn’t have to defend the run that call became huge.
You’re 10-5 and 1 play, 1 drive even handicapped by playing your 4th string RB and minus your top WR and you play good defense and put yourself in position to have a chance to win the game in the 4th quarter. It was Texas’ only shot in the game.
Texas’ lack of upper class talent means instead of a freshman coming in to fill the spot of an injured veteran, they are your talent and there is nothing comparable coming in from a jr or sr perspective.
The frustrating thing is that straight up Texas was better. MU had all the breaks. Wiped completely out at RB in 1 week. Horrible call. Blocked punt that bounced straight up and hit the cross bar. Very bizzare game.
by thirtyand0 on Nov 14, 2011 12:55 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
I don't understand the logic behind making that call...
I think it was Mike Pereira (ex-official) who made the point that refs make that call based on"if it might be a penalty. I believe he said “they’ve been told that when in doubt throw the flag”
by LonghorninRaiderland on Nov 14, 2011 10:20 AM CST up reply actions
but even with
that poor call (and others)…and our three top running backs out…and our number one reciever back in Austin rehabbing…and the defensive leader on the sidelines, it was a close game until late in the 4th…
if the officiating had not been so bad, even handicapped as we were, we might have pulled off a W….
by the way, I wonder if Malcolm Brown and Bergeron sat out the game because 5 years form now alomost nobody will remember if UT beat Mizzou as they left for the SEC but if a healthy combo of Brown and Bergeron lay wood to the Ags we will long remember
Pardon the typos. Where is the splchec?
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how?
How do we pull out a win if we can only score on safeties after the 1st drive? Officiating didn’t have anything to do with an anemic offense. As I’ve said before, Ash just isn’t that accurate. Case didn’t show any accuracy either. Between the two of them, there were 3 or 4 missed TD passes. Can’t blame the receivers for getting open and have the ball thrown 5 yards beyond them.
Wonder if this SEC stuff is contagious. Looked just like an SEC game over the last two years. Anemic offenses, QBs who can’t hit the side of a barn, lots of injuries. We need to get Missouri out as soon as possible before they infect the rest of us.
I'm not so sure that saying Ash is annacurrate holds any water
His short to intermediate throws all were very accurate. He had 1 over throw over the middle of the field about 20 yards out but other then that, he was very accurate. When we throw long, he gets inaccurate. The wind didn’t help him the other day either. He was trying to compensate for the wind coming at him then going against him. I’m holding judgement on Ash until I see the next 3 games. Vs Mizzou, he took a step backward in production, but a step forward in leadership. Kid has Moxie, and i’m not sold he’s not a great QB in the making.
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One game does not tell the whole story
I agree that Ash showed improvements in the intangibles department (leadership, moxie, etc.). I really liked his body language even when it became obvious that our best chance of winning resided in special teams or defensive scores.
However, he absolutely was inaccurate on Saturday. The deep balls to open receivers were way, way off. Even his short/intermediate routes, when completed, were rarely thrown to give the WR the best opportunity to run after the catch. Accuracy is definitely an issue with Ash (one that I am confident he can improve upon) and it goes beyond the one windy, Shipley-less, 4th string RB game in Mizzou.
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by Zeno of Citium on Nov 14, 2011 1:30 PM CST up reply actions
TCU QB
Talk about A QB who stepped up in a hostile environment. I kept thinking – could David Ash have done the same thing on the blue turf as the TCU QB did Saturday? I know Casey is a sophomore but basically this is his first year like Ash because Dalton was there last year. What I saw with Casey was the Moxie discussed above – willing a team to win, in the huddle with fire in his eyes per some of the TCU players. I want to believe Ash can get there also!
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Red Shirt Soph
Pachal is a red shirt Soph, most of the way through his third season in the program. When Ash is a junior, he may have that ability. We forget how much a redshirt helps. I bet he is a lot better as a Soph. too. We will se though.
by uttuck on Nov 14, 2011 3:28 PM CST via iPhone app up reply actions
Bad Reads
I didn’t see too many wide open guys for Ash, save for one lay-up he missed to Goodwin. I saw him throw into coverage way too often. The lack of a run game was too much.
Many mitigating factors
No run game, top WR out, generally poor pass protection from OL, windy conditions, etc.
But this doesn’t change the fact that Ash just has not been very accurate. He has a 58% completion rate on the season and really needs to take advantage of those rare instances when he does have time and a receiver does get seperation.
Again, he has alot of strengths (especially as a true freshman), but throwing an accurate ball is definitely not one of them.
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by Zeno of Citium on Nov 14, 2011 3:47 PM CST up reply actions
no big deal
he has alot of strengths (especially as a true freshman), but throwing an accurate ball is definitely not one of them.
See ya later, alligator and sheep-mater.
by Paleface Horn on Nov 15, 2011 10:13 AM CST up reply actions
I wish I was optimistic, like you, amigo.
But I can’t get beyond 13-29-1.
See ya later, alligator and sheep-mater.
by Paleface Horn on Nov 14, 2011 5:44 PM CST up reply actions
we won't get answers today...
but it will be curious to see on Saturday night if the wild horn is very limited in use or dropped altogether with fozzy out. Not sure if one week of practice is enough to determine who takes over that roll w/ fozzy gone…and if the coaches are confident enough in still using the package.
They could implement it.
They could run it with two different guys. Direct snaps to Bergeron / Brown when the RB keeps it and runs. Direct snaps to Shipley when there is a handoff to the sprinter. This assumes that either Brown/Bergeron will be back and Shipley returns as well. Since the players don’t have to make a read on whether to keep or hand it off, it’s not too difficult to keep it intact. Whether it’s productive is a different story.
by Inveigled&Foozled on Nov 14, 2011 8:48 AM CST up reply actions
Why telegraph the play with who's taking the snap?
I think it’s pretty clear we want to use Brown/Bergeron to take the snaps in Fozzy’s role. It needs to be someone that can run power on the keeper. Do you not think they would be capable of making a simple (fake) handoff to DJ on the jet sweep? We’re not asking them to make a read. The give/keep decision is called, or at least determined pre-snap, so I don’t see why Brown/Bergeron couldn’t do it perfectly well, assuming they are available.
agreed....Brown or Bergeron would be best
since they run with power on the keeper. I guess we just hope they are both healthy enough to play going forward.
It's been reported ...
It’s been reported several times that the package does not allow for the person receiving the snap to make a read. The play call is predetermined and this is done to take advantage of the speed of the players and eliminate the pause that comes with a read.
So, the only guess work is on the part of the “D” to decide whether it was a run off a direct snap or a hand off. You could allow Brown/Bergeron to also hand it off. Use Ship on some of the snaps and give him an additional wrinkle. Like showing a sweep with a pass built into it if it freezes the DB or frees up the receiver.
by Inveigled&Foozled on Nov 14, 2011 12:13 PM CST up reply actions
I think the Wildcat is too important a package to discard it.
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by Wescott Eberts (GoBR) on Nov 14, 2011 10:12 AM CST up reply actions
Agreed.
I wonder if they’d give Quise a shot at the Wild Horn. He could probably run it and run it well.
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I liked his run against Wizzou.
I though he was Bergeron at first. Ran strong.
See ya later, alligator and sheep-mater.
by Paleface Horn on Nov 14, 2011 5:47 PM CST up reply actions
*against Tech.
See ya later, alligator and sheep-mater.
by Paleface Horn on Nov 15, 2011 7:55 AM CST up reply actions
Cobbs would be on my short list of replacements.
Good size, ex QB ,can run the football well, and did throw the football some in High School.
demarco?
Doesn’t he have a broken arm?
by vy til i die on Nov 15, 2011 7:49 AM CST via iPhone app up reply actions
Speaking of injuries
It would be nice if we didn’t travel players who aren’t going to play because of injury. I spent a good chunk of time lamenting the fact that we had two very capable guys standing on the sideline looking ready to go. More importantly, why lie about injuries? It did not give us an advantage.
by Inveigled&Foozled on Nov 14, 2011 8:53 AM CST reply actions
If someone is to be thrown sub-bus
…I would submit it should be Harsin for the 3Q play calling:
Run for short gain
Run for loss
Make the struggling young QB throw on third & long
Punt
(repeat, rotating QBs, as necessary)
Wasted quarter. They had the wind, the running game wasn’t working and the QBs needed to get into some sort of throwing rythm, yet they kept going back to the running well on 1st and 2nd down, then making the poor schmucks throw when it was obvious. I swear I thought GD was back up in the booth.
by Poindexter718 on Nov 14, 2011 8:55 AM CST reply actions 1 recs
not gd
That much running wasn’t Greg Davis. Clearly Harsin has no confidence in the QBs. Can’t blame him based on Saturday’s game. But yes, I would have liked to have seen more short passes on 1st or 2nd down prior to the 4th quarter.
All Greg Davis Qbs played better
He was the qb coach same as Harsin. Maybe he needs to hold a clinic and invite Harsin.
Yeah
Never thought I would be wishing for Gilbert.
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If those assholes hadn't booed him out of the stadium he might still be here
We’d be swapping Ash and Gilbert instead of Ash and Case.
I can’t help but think we’d be better off.
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Let me see - would I rather be in Hong Kong or watching UT? Tough call!
Proud of your offense? Manny badger don't give a shit!
Snider Alert!
I actually put this upcoming K-State game more important than any other. Why? The Revenge factor! I’m ok with the lost to Mizzou after we’ve beat them 6 times in a row. But K-State is a different story. They beat us 3 in a row and I want…. You can fill in the blank.
Haha…based on your comment, you sound like to travel there. Have you been there before?
Hard Hat Award
Even if we exclude from consideration the perfect form tackle which drew the penalty (a shame, for it was beautiful), Vaccaro still earns the award for his hit on Franklin, IMO.
Seeing a lot of excuses as to why we lost...bad officiating, poor field, injuries, etc.
But in reality we got beat because we gave up too many points and/or didn’t score enough points…..Simply put, we got outplayed.
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by rmaxearnest on Nov 14, 2011 9:29 AM CST reply actions 2 recs
it was one bad call
in the end the defense should not of let a call beat them. No need to blame refs. We are Texas, Not Aggie
by codaxx on Nov 14, 2011 9:38 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Yep
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Hard to win when you can't score a TD.
The game was lost when we missed our 3rd or 4th deep pass into 1×1 coverage.
The Wild Foz may have given us a chance, but then that went out the window too.
Obviously
You always lose because you didn’t score enough points, or as the Aggies say, because they ran out of time. However, it is cathartic, as well as important in terms of future improvement to try and understand why you lost to what most of us feel was an inferior team and failed to score a TD for the first time in years. In a close game being without your top 4 offensive players is a major factor, probably the determining one, not an excuse.
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Big12 Weekly Teleconference Notes
Loss of Fozzy – “Big loss on and off the field. Great player and even better human being.”
Explain KSU hold over UT in recent games – “They have out coached and out played us. Pretty simple.”
Do you find any special satisfaction in beating a KSU given the recent record – “We need a win. Even if it was over pee-wee team.”
Mack sounds pissed…“Everybody has to step up (in wake of injuries). We have to play better. Period.”
On Collin Klein – “Collin Klein whipped us really good last year. He is an amazing player. 3rd most rushing attempts in CFB this year. Bill has done a tremendous job coaching him. Texas fans appreciate good football players and will enjoy watching him.”
“KSU will line up and hit you in the mouth for four hours.”
Missouri journo asking about recruiting / early commits (a WTF question) – Mack discusses his time at UNC offering late and losing out on commits. The recruit game has gotten out of control. Positives are we know who we are going to get. The negatives are a kid could get hurt, not play well, etc. We have not offered sophomores yet.
Comparing Big12 QB’s this year to ‘08 group – "This is the best year of Big12 QB’s". 2 are legit Heisman candidates. Credit 7-on-7 and Mike Leach for the trend.
On the Missouri field condition – “I’m not going to comment. I just hate the 2 young men got hurt.”
On running across field to check on Josey – “Henry was a young man we knew about because of Angelton connection. The thing that hit me is a great young man from State of Texas who is very good friends with Monroe and Diggs and it was important to represent our players in walking across the field and wishing him to get well.”
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Disappointed but not surprised.
I thought this was an opportunity for Mack Brown to take a stand against an unsafe field and he declined to do so. Given how he operates, I guess that’s understandable, but that turf needs to be replaced as soon as possible.
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by Wescott Eberts (GoBR) on Nov 14, 2011 10:36 AM CST up reply actions
And especially in light of targeting calls
Continually lowering the strike zone is going to result in more not fewer knee injuries on the field; so you really really hate to see non-contact injuries. Maybe the NCAA could/should spend a bit less time worrying about “targeting” penalties and a little more time enforcing some modicum of a standard for playing surfaces.
That said, Brown’s in a pickle there. If he comments on the playing surface, it’s just going to come off as sour-grapes whining.
I thought Mack handled it the right way all things considered.
The press is already calling the field into question. That’ll carry more weight than the losing team’s coach anyway. Let the press dig into that while appearing above it.
Apparently
Rod Babers was complaining about the quality of the playing surface on the radio. Did anyone listen to the broadcast?
Also, Hookem.com is reporting today that people in the program are “livid” ($) about the field in Columbia.
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by Wescott Eberts (GoBR) on Nov 14, 2011 12:07 PM CST up reply actions
More interestingly it states Texas is looking for some instant help from the JUCO ranks
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by rmaxearnest on Nov 14, 2011 12:42 PM CST up reply actions
Don't know; don't have a subscription....all you can read is the teaser!
But it wouldn’t suprise me if we might be looking for a JUCO QB
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OT, DE, DT
Although the defensive tackle is Autry’s teammate, so it’s unlikely that Texas would offer him.
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by Wescott Eberts (GoBR) on Nov 14, 2011 1:06 PM CST up reply actions
Who is Autry???
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A JUCO defensive end Texas is recruiting.
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by Wescott Eberts (GoBR) on Nov 14, 2011 1:32 PM CST up reply actions
thanks
Great players make great coaches, but great coaches make champions." DKR circa 1964
Craig Way mentioned it after Fozzy got hurt
He said that Muschamp openly complained about it before and after the last game UT played in Columbia.
Im thinking Harsin got a earful from Mack.
Mack on Collin Klein , “Bill has done a tremendous job coaching him”. When Harsin’s Qb’s start producing like G.D’s did then we will have a offense.
Harsin is going to have to learn fast, this ain’t Boise schedule. There are 9 teams in the big 12 -2 that can beat you.
Two questions on Harsin Comments
1. I don’t know if I heard the entirety of what Harsin said after the game, but what I heard was his throwing the entirety of the offense (including himself) under the bus with words like “we” and “the offense.” Is the complaint above that he used words like “we” and “us” rather than “I” or did I miss something that makes it larger than that?
2. I feel somewhat stupid asking this, but are the Monday press conference remarks from the coordinators covered anywhere in their entirety? It seems like texassports.com covers Brown’s comments, then players, but not the coordinators. I know there’s an edited transcript posted on texassports on Tues/Wed but I’d really like to hear the full interviews.
would like to know this also
haven’t seen/heard harsin’s comments
Found audio files
Good god
Down to your 4th string RB and missing your top WR, playing a true freshman QB on top of this, our idiotic fans defy logic.
Let’s go back and review the McCoy sophomore season posts. Booed at home against KState. Play Snead.
Unfortunately experience takes time.
Now why Brown put us in this spot is fair game.
But I would argue not too many teams win in the unfortunate spot Texas found themselves in Saturday. Really bizarre to be wiped out at RB.
by thirtyand0 on Nov 14, 2011 1:02 PM CST via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
Snead had already transferred by McCoy's sophomore season.
Do not be distracted by what you see, but be transformed by what you believe.
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See ya later, alligator and sheep-mater.
by Paleface Horn on Nov 14, 2011 5:51 PM CST up reply actions
I don't know who you intended to reply to
But I’ll go ahead and assume it wasn’t me, since this has nothing to do with either of my two questions.
Regarding Harsin, sounds like he's chafing at not having total control of the offense.
I think he wants HarsinWhite to be Harsin only. Not sure I can blame him.
He might have a short stay if this isn’t addressed.
Look out 2013
What makes you say that?
Not saying you’re not right, but I haven’t heard anything from Harsin that gives me that impression. Although given that Applewhite’s running backs have been the one consistent bright spot for the offense, I’d be surprised if Harsin was complaining.
Just wondering about the "we" instead of "I" statements.
I’m not saying he’s really upset. Just wondering.
Look out 2013
if Harsin is calling the plays from the pressbox its his offense.
He may be chafing because of the pressure. This isn’t Boise where you play 3 games a year tops against BCS opponents. Every game is tough in the Big 12 save kansas. Just ask Oklahoma.
The point I'm making is that unlike Diaz
Harsin has not been out front in terms of fading the heat for his players. Yes, words of “we” and “us” are a good start. But he needs to own the responsibility. It may be a matter of style but I don’t see a lot of ownership coming from him in this regard.
Regarding the co-coordinator title, it’s just that. Trust me when I say this offense is all Harsin’s.
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Thats why we hear more from Harsin than Applewhite
Applewhite is basically in the same position he was in last year, he just got a new title
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by fanoflosingteams on Nov 14, 2011 2:59 PM CST up reply actions
OK
I’ll definitely agree that Diaz gives a much better PC than does Harsin. From all that I’ve heard and FWIW, Harsin very much does own it internally and in his communication with players; so I think it may just be more a matter of being less practiced/dynamic in front of the microphone.
On Your #2
I’m guessin gyou would have to watchit live on the Longhorn Network.
I'd love to have LHN for my #2
Or my #1 for that matter. My mobile is always with me so as soon as they decide to meet the fans in this century and have a for-pay stream, I’m right there.
Interesting tidbit Mack sneaked in when he was talking about seniors
Offensive lineman Mark Buchanan is now listed as a senior (the roster said junior until recently. He has played only 3 seasons (redshirting in 2008).
That opens up a scholarship for February. And shrinks an already small junior class by another body. I wouldn’t be surprised if we had under 10 seniors come August.
Fozzy
It is character, like that of Fozzy’s, that make me proud to be a Longhorn fan. What a great presser, wish they were all like him.
Turf Problems???
Saw elsewhere that the turf at Mizzou is the same surface that the ‘Horns have in UT…..only older. The expected life span is around 10 year before needing replacement but typically lasts longer. I’m sure in a climate like in Austin (which I would guess are pretty favorable for longevity) tends to wear on the field less. The field in Missouri was installed in 2003 so it is approaching that expected life span, and given the fact that Missouri experiences more dramatic weather on average than Austin, TX, I would wager that it might be time to take some of the SEC money and put some new turf in this summer.
Could this be a fluke? Youbetcha. But with the amount of time schools have invested in blue chip players like Josey and Whittaker, they can’t afford to let the playing field even be suspected of being responsible for injuries, especially recruiting against the Big 10, SEC and the rest of the Big 12. I’m sure its not the worst field these players have ever been on, but Mizzou cannot afford for their field to get a bad rap.
Has anybody else been bitchin about the Mizzou field turf?
Great players make great coaches, but great coaches make champions." DKR circa 1964
It’s tragic that 2 great players went down this weekend, but looking back over the whole last year or two there doesn’t seem to be a particularly high rate of knee injuries on it in general. If there is some kind of problem then I it better get fixed ASAP, no matter the cost… but we may be leaping to some pretty big conclusions over a pretty tiny sample size here. Sometimes bad luck just comes in clumps.
Read on another site Mizzou is replacing it this year
Which makes you think they are aware of the problem.
Also, as I posted above, Muschamp openly complained about it 2 years ago.
thats good
its just a shame it took two players getting seriously injured before they decided to do this
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After lasts years winter there are probably potholes under it.
Water freezes, breaks up the ground, dought, cracks. Its the base that counts.
Silver Lining?
After that offensive performance Harsin does not get a head coaching offer this year.
I wish his phone would ring off the wall.
See ya later, alligator and sheep-mater.
by Paleface Horn on Nov 15, 2011 11:18 AM CST up reply actions
Harsin
I didn’t hear the press conference. What exactly did Harsin say that “threw his players under the bus?” Remember that even Mack Brown threw his players amd coaches under the bus once or twice last year. Coaches are human too and its got to be hard when you lose through a combination of injuries to your top 4 offensive weapons, questionable officiating, and 2 QB’s who looked totally lost. And to make matters worse, Fozzy’s injury early in the game brings back horrible memories of Colt’s injury in the MNC game.
"Only angry people win football games." --DKR

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