Why I'm Rooting for Oklahoma State... And You Should Too
by Peter Bean on Nov 16, 2011 4:08 PM CST
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PrintHonestly, I would have been delighted to see things break the right way for Boise State this year, if only because I want them to get a shot at it at least once. This might have been the best season for it to happen, but this isn't their best team, and the Broncos are out after losing to TCU.
I would have been happy to see Stanford run the table and play for the BCS Championship, as well. I admire how Jim Harbaugh put this team together, I'm a fan of David Shaw, and whatever you think of "Andrew Luck, NFL Prospect," he's an exemplary college quarterback whose success should be easy for anyone to enjoy. But like the Broncos, Stanford's title hopes were also dashed on Saturday, their loss to Oregon all but assuring they won't be playing for the crystal football.
So where do we stand following unrecoverable losses by two of the top five in the BCS standings? Assuming top-ranked LSU wins out, we're left with either two teams LSU has already defeated -- Oregon and Alabama -- or Oklahoma.
Or... Oklahoma State. Which is why I'll be cheering as hard for the bright orange of OSU as I do the burnt orange of Texas.
And after the jump, I'll give you ten reasons why you should, too.
1. Oklahoma sucks. Let's face it, unless you're counting on Iowa State to upend Oklahoma State this weekend in Ames, if you're not pulling for OSU to make the BCS Championship Game you are essentially rooting for Oklahoma. First off, on general principle: no. Second, if OU wins Bedlam and things break the right way in the BCS Standings, a Sooners victory could send them to New Orleans to play LSU. No, no, a hundred times no. Again, they're Oklahoma. And moreover, no one wants to see Bob Stoops lay another BCS egg. These Tigers aren't UConn.
2. Alabama doesn't deserve a rematch. I might be more sympathetic had the Tide lost a squeaker in Baton Rouge, but they crapped the bed at home, and that's game over, as far as I'm concerned. Moreover, while I'll certainly agree that they have a championship caliber defense, if I wanted to watch a football team that can run the ball but can't pass to save it's life, I'd just watch Texas. If I never see AJ McCarron throw another pass this year, it'll be too soon. And if I have to watch Alabama attempt another field goal, I'm going to gouge my eyes with a hot knife. Please, Lord: no LSU-Bama rematch.
3. Oregon's case for a rematch is even weaker. Yes, the Ducks lost in a semi-away game, and yes, it was early in the year. But look, if we're going to have an opponent that tries to challenge LSU with a high-flying offense, how about we try the team that, you know, hasn't already failed against them this year? A good idea, no?
4. The SEC sucks this year. Yes, the SEC is often the nation's strongest conference, but not this year. The SEC's top two are certainly strong, but the rest of the conference is uninspiring, to put it charitably. Florida is terrible. Auburn is terrible. Tennessee is awful. Ole Miss should cancel the rest of their season. At this point it's fair to ask: has there ever been a lousier conference of quarterbacks? As Spencer put it on EDSBS LIVE last night: that Georgia is winning the SEC East tells you all you need to know about the quality of play in the SEC this year.
5. The Big 12 is better than the SEC this year. Not that an SEC fan will ever concede that another conference could ever be better, but the fact is that the Big 12 is the nation's strongest conference this year. The Big 12 went a national-best 22-2 in non-conference play this year, and feature 7 teams in the Top 30 of Jeff Sagarin's predictor ratings (against just 5 in the SEC), and 9 teams in the Top 30 of his ELO Chess model (versus just 7 for the SEC). Top to bottom, the Big 12 is better than the SEC this year. And since I certainly don't want Oklahoma representing our conference, that means pulling hard for the Pokes to win out.
6. BCSpocalypse looms. I'm all for chaos if enough of the outcomes look acceptable, but an Oklahoma State loss creates a situation chock full of title-game match ups I have no interest in seeing. BCS chaos makes it exponentially more likely that we'll be stuck watching a rematch, or worse, Oklahoma. Do not want.
7. Oklahoma State has the most balanced offense to challenge LSU. Oklahoma can't run the ball, and their most important receiver is out for the year. Alabama's quarterback just put up a line of 14-24 for 163 yards, 0 TDs, 1 INT against Mississippi State, and their receiving corps is incredibly weak. Oregon's got it grooving on the ground and through the air right now, but the Pokes have been more dynamic and again, we've seen them play LSU. Oklahoma State averages 5.3 yards per rush (17th nationally) and has scored 30 touchdowns on the ground (tied with Bama, one more than Oregon), while the Pokes pick up 8.6 yards per attempt (8th nationally) and have 34 passing touchdowns (6 more than Oregon and 24 more than Bama).
8. A win for T. Boone is a win for America. This is self-evident and redundant, but let's just be explicit about it.
9. Oklahoma State fans are awesome. Spencer and I had a grand time at last year's Alamo Bowl, which we walked away from huge admirers of OSU fans. They don't take themselves too seriously, and don't have an inferiority complex. They just do their thing, are proud of who they are, and don't worry about too much else. If you read the outstanding OSU blog Cowboys Ride For Free, you know what I mean.
10. Mike Gundy will dance. And last but not least, even if you aren't on board with anything else I've said, let's be real... this needs to happen again:
And you can't have one without the other:
Go Pokes!
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Whimper.
if I wanted to watch a football team that can run the ball but can’t pass to save it’s life, I’d just watch Texas.
Greg Davis haikus; a lot like his offenses; always go sideways.
by pleaseplaykindle on Nov 16, 2011 4:12 PM CST reply actions
Also, I'd like to add that I would like a TD scored in a National Championship game.
That’s just me.
Greg Davis haikus; a lot like his offenses; always go sideways.
by pleaseplaykindle on Nov 16, 2011 4:12 PM CST up reply actions
I'd join you except I think LSU would absolutely destroy Poke Lite
So I’m rooting for LSU and OSU to drop a game and all BCS hell to break loose with like 8 one-loss teams all with about equal claim to a title shot.
We’ll see how OU bounces back from the loss of their star WR, but I think they’ll give OSU a pretty good run, even in Stillwater.
Another SEC team that’s not bad is Arkansas and they may give LSU a game…certainly done it before and anything can happen in SEC championship, particularly when you have one team with everything to lose playing a team with nothing to lose…then again the SEC East does blow.
Otherwise, I’m rooting for a Texas/Nebraska match up in the Insight Bowl and the 2012 season to hurry the f*ck up and get here.
@longhorn54b
Then this article is for you:
“BCS Apocalypse” from Presnap Read.
Fair warning, though: In your scenario I’m afraid Oklahoma winds up in the BCS Title Game. I can’t get on board with that.
75-37-5. Now GTFO.
Oh come one, you wouldn't enjoy LSU beating OU by 50 in the National Title game
I think we could all get on board with a couple of hours of Stoops “pout face” while crapping himself in the Super Dome.
@longhorn54b
Of course I would
But I would much, much rather them lose Bedlam. I’ll take my pouty face in the regular season this year, thanks.
75-37-5. Now GTFO.
You're right and I'd like to see Gundy get his Jimmy Johnson hair messed up by Blackmon while...
dancing to Shorty got low-low-low.
@longhorn54b
One of these years he's gonna win that game with his own recruits
I’d prefer it be out of the realm of possibility for one more year, at least.
It’s good for the league (such as it is) to send someone other than OU (or even UT) to the BCS game. Look at the SEC. I believe they decide in secret meetings each off-season who’s going to be the national championship winner, and they’re careful to rotate it. Next year when Vanderbilt runs the table and wins it all, y’all will say: “Windycityhorn was right!”
Simplicity is always the secret, to a profound truth, to doing things, to writing, to painting. Life is profound in its simplicity. - Charles Bukowski
by windycityhorn on Nov 16, 2011 4:59 PM CST up reply actions
A&M obviously thinks you're right
And I’m pretty sure the SEC already conspired to help the Ags win the national title in Men’s Rhythmic Gymnastics…should be a billboard on I-35 about it any day now.
@longhorn54b
Im tired
of SEC people chanting “we’ve won 5 straight” Let alone have to hear them say 6 in a row. Once the SEC loses or fails to make a BCS title game, ESPN and others will continue to push them down our throats on every college football tv show.
"Stability is a factor in teams that win the championship. But if you stabilize on a team that's going to end up short of that, then all you're doing is spinning your wheels in the 45-win range."-----Daryl Morey
by fanoflosingteams on Nov 16, 2011 6:07 PM CST up reply actions
Also, nothing against OSU's QB personally, good for him for chasing his dream...
but there’s just something not quite right about a 28-year old college QB.
Maybe instead of letting guys like Gilbert and Conner Wood transfer, we should just let them mature in some Mexican semi-pro baseball league like Kenny Powers and then bring them back when they’re like 28.
Don’t bust balls.
@longhorn54b
You do know there's a 50 or 60 something y.o. kicker for some college team
that actually won the game for them recently. Yay for us old farts.
Hook Em Horns!
I think his name was George Blanda and he was kicking for the Blue Raiders
I’ll qualify my early point…
There’s just something not quite right about a college QB who is over the age of 25 and younger than Brett Farve and talented enough to pull more strange out of Eskimo Joe’s than Dana Holgerson.
@longhorn54b
I'm with you on 7 out of 8
But I absolutely detest T. Boone. I won’t violate the no-politics rule here by going into why. Let’s just say that if there is one billionaire I would love to see go bankrupt and have to live under a bridge, it’s Pickens.
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by Longhorn in Canada on Nov 16, 2011 4:37 PM CST reply actions
Also lends a lot of credence to money being the primary driver to becoming an elite CFB team
Even though we probably all know it to be true, not the kind of statement you want made when the sport is already being tainted from one payola scandal after another
@longhorn54b
And, of course, I meant 9 out of 10
All but #8
Duh
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by Longhorn in Canada on Nov 16, 2011 4:44 PM CST up reply actions
With you there too
Windfarm, anyone?
Before you criticize someone, walk a mile in their shoes. If they get mad, you're a mile away AND you have their shoes.
Yeah I've been on the OSU bandwagon for a few weeks now.
The alternatives just aren’t palatable to me.
My source close to the program can beat up your source close to the program!
I agree with you 100%
About 30 seconds after Texas Tech knocked off OU in Norman, my celebration turned to worry. Because it’s OU. And we’ve seen it before. They have a magical ability to get into the BCS title game with one loss. It happened in 2003. In 2005 they didn’t have a loss, but neither did Auburn, and they got the nod over the Tigers. And we all remember what happened in 2008.
Also, Gundy over Stoops, every time, in every conceivable way.
Simplicity is always the secret, to a profound truth, to doing things, to writing, to painting. Life is profound in its simplicity. - Charles Bukowski
I like Gundy because he's a Man
TEXAS FIGHT
by Darklust on Nov 16, 2011 5:52 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
Yes he is!
If he wins out, then he can say “I’m THE man.”
by Inveigled&Foozled on Nov 17, 2011 7:27 AM CST up reply actions
OSU for sure but for a completely different reason
In my warped mind and happy delusional reality I’m thinking that if that quarterback they have, yeah, Gundy’s Dad,,I think maybe he’ll retire and start picking up his pension checks if they win the pretty football trophy and we can beat them again,,next year. Sure worth a shot and beats having ouSUCKS humiliate the conference again.
If a man is alone in the woods and he speaks, if no one hears him,,is he still wrong?
I do like Cowboys Ride for Free
Especially since they posted that great chart of the Big XII teams. Can’t find the link now.
As you say, they have a sense of humor (or humour, if you’re Canadian) and aren’t too full of themselves.
I agree with 54b about how much fun it would be to watch OU getting destroyed, but that is likely in just a regular BCS game, without them screwing up the championship. Plus, I hate to root against a Big XII team in a bowl, as it hurts the perception of the conference as a whole. There are 2 notable exceptions to that rule, however.
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by Longhorn in Canada on Nov 16, 2011 4:52 PM CST reply actions
Hookum OSU
i like OSU. I am fine with rooting for them 363 days a years. Just not against us or Texas Tech. (sorry, got lots of Tech family)
. Let them beat OU, let them (please lord, every time) beat aggie, LSU and Alabama for sure. If we can’t win the NC, than they are as good as anyone in my mind.
OU is not next in line for me. Nor in the spot after that, nor the one after that. They are a tad down the line in who I root for.
so hookum OSU
They hate who we hate
That’s reason enough for me.
"Well, a guy did a Horns down to him. You just shouldn’t do that."
I don't share Peter Bean's love for all things Cowboy
But I’d love to see that offense against that defense. If nothing else, it would be quite the spectacle, and once and for all settle that old debate:
“Does defense REALLY win championships?”
Because we're Texas and we're evil. DUH.
And provide further proof that "Money can buy love."
Like it did for Auburn last year.
He-he.
@longhorn54b
i would love to see okie state play for the bcs championship but...
… as said before, they have too many weaknesses that can be easily exploited that they will almost surely lose against LSU. this is sadly the state of big 12, the teams win when they are very one dimensional (but very very good at it like okie state) yet they are easily broken apart by a good team outside with a good coach. miles might be a bad person for all sorts of reasons, but he is good at breaking down teams and he will break okies.
actually, i would be very surprised if bobby stoops wouldnt be able to win against okie state. i think i remember OU has lost some defensive guys (correct me if im wrong…), but bobby is a smart coach, and he will really test okie state
by vanterminatorhorn on Nov 16, 2011 5:34 PM CST reply actions
how are they one dimensional?
They pass better than anyone and they run better than almost anyone. Their offense is the opposite of one dimensional
by chilidogfever74 on Nov 16, 2011 6:58 PM CST up reply actions
What are these so called weaknesses available for exploit?
I’d love to see you defend these bold statements considering they’re probably the most balanced offense in the nation when you consider their receiving to rushing yards ratio—then you compound that with the fact that they have two running backs with over 600 yard and 10 receivers with over 100 yards receiving. Then you take into consideration that of those 10 receivers, 8 of them have 2 or more touchdowns.
They have forced the most turnovers 34 (2nd place is 29) and have the highest turnover ratio (1.8). They have a kicker who has kicked over 55% touchbacks, of the 98 times he’s kicked off this year. That same kicker averages 48 yards per punt (highest in the nation) and is also 16 of 18 for field goals. Oh, you must be one of those people who think we’re weak because we give up a ton of yards every game, but fail to realize that our started squad has only finished 3 games all season. We’ve pulled starters before halftime twice and 3 more times in the 3rd quarter.
But please, by all means, share all of these weaknesses that are available to exploit. I want to hear about how misinformed you are. 9 of the 10 games this season have been nationally televised, so you’ve had plenty of time to analyze film.
Bob Stoops Smart???
There’s no way that’s accurate. The 2008 National Championship is definite proof of my claim!
by Omar Alberto Cisneros on Nov 17, 2011 10:15 AM CST up reply actions
I'm torn
I would love to see Blackmon go up agains Claiborne and i would love to see BCS chaos, but if it means ou is going to the natl champ then hell no!! Lets say there is a rematch of LSU vs Bama i would hate it for the simple reason if Bama wins then everyone will be screaming for them to play a third time and i don’t want to hear people talk about it on ESPN for an entire month. Would laugh if there was 3 way tie in the SEC west if ark beats LSU. But also be aware Longhorn fans that if Ark beats LSU and Aub beats Bama, the game is @Auburn then Ark goes to the SEC title game and if Ou beats OSU then your going to see are two hated rivals in the Natl Champ game…puke time
Being from Tulsa,Ok is always try rooting for O-State(except when they play Texas)...
A lot of people from other states think all us okies bleed for slOwU, when actually its not that way at all! Most true football fans in NE Oklahoma root for OSU or TU(golden hurricanes), but we do have several band wagon fans going for the land thieves, OSU fans are usually much more reasonable to talk sports with on saturdays because they believe in having a common enemy in norman, and that makes for a fun time watching the bedlam game with them.
I will definitely be going for OSU all the way till the end of the season, and I hope baylor finds a way to end all signs of life for a crimson bcs title shot…hook em’ pokes!
It's hard being a Longhorn fan in the state of Oklahoma!!
by okhornfan on Nov 16, 2011 6:17 PM CST via mobile reply actions
I grew up in Tulsa
For every person I know rooting for OSU or Tulsa, I know 20 morons without college degrees rooting for OU.
O rly?
Most true football fans in NE Oklahoma root for OSU
Is that why the record attendance is 58,895 in a stadium with a listed capacity just over 60K?
There’s a lot of pumpkin costumes and talk in NE Oklahoma, but “true football fans” often actually pay for tickets.
by TwoPalePonies on Nov 17, 2011 10:21 AM CST up reply actions
Thanks
I feel the same way only not as well articulated.
I have relatives who root for OSU, they’re a fun bunch to watch football with. Go pokes.
Nope
My son in law is a OSU grad and until he gets a decent job I want to see him suffer…plus Tbone spouted too much negative about Texas
You're an idiot
T-Boone just donated over $100million to UT for a billion dollar endowment.
Wow
You must be a peach of a father-in-law…
by OminousPolaris on Nov 17, 2011 9:15 AM CST up reply actions
ignorant
OK. St. fans hate OU as much, and probably more, than we do. My uncle rooted for a USSR team against OU in hockey, which he hardly cares about, and bought an FSU hat in anticipation of the 2001 championship game.
These are our natural allies.
i dont hate OSU
I just can’t openly cheer for them
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by horns1025 on Nov 17, 2011 8:50 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Even if OU gets blown out by LSU,
the thought of them backdooring their way into another MNC game makes me vomit in my mouth. Go "Pokes!
This is a no-brainer: Definitely behind Okie Lite
Prior to reading a few posts here I don’t know anyone in the state of Texas, including Aggie fans, not cheering for Okie Lite to run the table and meet up against LSU (assuming they can beat UGA in the SEC championship game). GO DAWGS!!
Anyway, supporting Okie Lite over OU should be self-evident!!
We're Texas, We're not OK.
Alternativr
Can’t I root for ark to beat LSU? Georgia to win the SEC. OSU to beat OU, but lose a different game. Then we have BCS disaster and we don’t have to whore our souls
BCS Armageddon question
There’s been a lot of focus on what happens if OSU loses Bedlam.
What if OSU wins, but the other important game on the first Saturday of December — the SEC Championship — results in a Georgia upset victory over LSU.
Assuming no other upsets along the way, who does OSU play? Does a one-loss SEC team which just lost the conference championship game get left out, even a one-loss team (LSU) which would have defeated each of the other two plausible one-loss candidates (Bama and UO)?
You could almost make the case that LSU will have earned a spot in New Orleans if it wins out in the regular season regardless of whether it beats Georgia in Atlanta.
Great shots of the Tower. Great shots of kids. Available in DFW and throughout Texas.
Oh, and I'm all-in on OSU too
Maybe because Texas has been mixed up in the national scene so often as of late, but I can’t remember “adopting” a team for MNC purposes as strongly as I’ve adopted OSU in a long time.
Great shots of the Tower. Great shots of kids. Available in DFW and throughout Texas.
by Hopkins Horn on Nov 16, 2011 7:37 PM CST up reply actions
I for one..
Do not think that ANY team should play in the NC game if they do not win their own conference. I know it has happened before but if you cannot win your own conference, why should you play for the NC game!
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I am also for the Armageddon issue and would love to see about 7 0r 8 teams with one loss teams and the only undefeated team being the Houston Cougars screaming for a shot!
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Even without Broyles and Whaley, OU will beat OSU....The weaker OSU D will be the difference....
I hate OU and how could the voters put a team in the NC game that lost at home to an unranked team, versus either OR or Bama who only lost to the #1 team. Sorry, but a rematch is in the cards.
I’ll be rooting for OSU, but if they win, LSU will destroy them.
I'd kill for a Nobel Peace Prize
by MeatchickenHorn on Nov 16, 2011 8:05 PM CST reply actions
Florida 2008
how could the voters put a team in the NC game that lost at home to an unranked team
Florida lost at home to Ole Miss, and yet there was absolutely no talk about UT (only loss to a top 10 team on the road) going over UF.
Yeah oddly enough I was about to post about this on Cowboys Ride for Free today
with you 100% PB. I have always found OSU to be among the most tolerable Big 12 teams/fans.. plus OU SUCKS.
Official Member of the Joe Bergeron Fan Club
Big XII needs depth
Aside from Horns and Thieves, no one in the Big12 has ever contended for MNC. The SEC has had 4 different consecutive titleists. Like it or not, that speaks well for their conference. In light of re-alignment, I’d love to see other Big 12 teams show some grit.
I think 2011 has shown some serious depth in the Big 12.....Until we started beating each other half the conference was in the top 20
I'd kill for a Nobel Peace Prize
by MeatchickenHorn on Nov 16, 2011 8:38 PM CST up reply actions
Big XII is very strong this year,
but the mid-tier is moving east. Over the next 5± yrs, which Big 12 teams have a prayer to rise to national prominence? Will Baylor play for the NC? Can KC stick around? And Tech? (!!?). It will be interesting to see how WV and the Frogs line up in conference play. But the gap between mid-tier and powerhouse is huge.
by HastaLaVista on Nov 16, 2011 9:21 PM CST up reply actions
Dream Scenario
OSU beats sooner, Bama loses to Auburn and Georgia somehow someway has a very convincing win against LSU in the SEC title game… Knocking their computer rankings just low enough to have a OSU / Oregon Title match…
THAT would be an interesting game.
How bout everyone in front of Texas loses
and the Horns get in. Thats what Id like to see
"Stability is a factor in teams that win the championship. But if you stabilize on a team that's going to end up short of that, then all you're doing is spinning your wheels in the 45-win range."-----Daryl Morey
by fanoflosingteams on Nov 16, 2011 10:21 PM CST reply actions
Thanks Peter Bean
Great article! Lifted my spirits and made me laugh…OUT LOUD, several times! OSU is my adopted BCS contender for the rest of the season.
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The real reason to be for OSU is that
they are part of the Big 12. Period.
We need to support the Big 12 teams whenever they play non-conference games and espcially to get to and win in the BCS Chamionship Game. And this year it is either OSU or OU…so everyone you can pick your poison.
The united SEC fanbase support for anything SEC is one of the reasons the SEC is so powerful. When it is one of their teams against a non-SEC opponent they always cheer for the SEC team.
We need to adopt that in the Big 12. In fact, I even see a time when I will root for OU…ack, pwith.. simply to further our conference. To do anyhting less decreases the value of my conference.
Pardon the typos. Where is the splchec?
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I'll agree to disgree, except this time.
I’m 100% for Texas and f*** the rest of the Big 12….with the exception of this time…..I totally agree that we pull for the the Pokes. They are exciting to watch, explosive on their scoring and they don’t have the typically pillow-fight, field goal only offense like a lot of SEC teams this year.
And I’ll never pull of OU. Ever. Blasphemy
Damn it feels good to be a gangsta...
Mike Gundy. If you have no other reason
to support OSU, he’s it. Win or lose the MNC, Mike will be one entertaining post game interview.
Flaws
Reason #4: I could say the same thing for OSU. The fact that Okie State might be the best team in the Big 12 means the Big 12 is down this year.
#5: The top two teams in the SEC would rape the top two teams in the Big 12. I don’t know how the middle compares, but since the MNC is a match-up of their best against the Big 12 best, this argument is irrelevant.
#7: Offensive balance doesn’t matter when your defense can’t stop the run or pass. LSU would destroy OSU or OU b/c their line play on both sides of the ball is superior. LSU has the defense to get to and rattle Weeden and the running game to dominate the playclock and keep Blackmon on the sidelines.
#8: T. Boone is an ass.
#9: Gundy is a bigger ass than Pickens.
by Beergut on Nov 17, 2011 1:16 PM CST via mobile reply actions
Thank you for providing reason No. 11
“Beergut disagrees.”
75-37-5. Now GTFO.
by Peter Bean on Nov 17, 2011 1:39 PM CST up reply actions 6 recs
Okay, now I'm REALLY cheering for OSU
Because we're Texas and we're evil. DUH.
by iamjackburton on Nov 18, 2011 10:53 AM CST up reply actions
Go Okie Lite
OSU can beat ousucks, I like their odds and will be pulling for such. If they get the MNC nod vs LSU, get the body bags ready. Weeden will go out faster than Colt did in 2009, and probably Blackmon a little latter as well. But that’s just my guess, and as they say that’s why they play the games. Would still prefer someone other than ou representing B12 in the MNC.
I'm for Okie Lite except
I didn’t appreciate T Boone and Jimmy Johnson calling out for Texas to keep Mack “because they can beat him”. Okie State has beaten Mack TWICE.
Also, a 28 year old playing with all the other kids isn’t a story that I would root for.
On the other hand, I like Gundy. He’s coaching his alma mater and he’s always taken responsibility when things don’t go OSU’s way. He is a man.
With OU’s bowl record (sure they won last year…against an unranked team), we can pull for them to lose no matter who they play in the bowl.
SEC is a better conference...no questions
First of all, SEC has 3 teams in the top 6, 6 teams in the top 25. The Big 12 only has 5 in the top 25. Secondly, some of the SEC schools have young quarterbacks (not all that different from Texas) but I didn’t see anything mentioned about Arkansas.
Arkansas has the best offense in the SEC, and one of the best offenses and quarterbacks in the country. So think twice before generalizing statements without even mentioning an obvious exeption.
"So think twice before generalizing statements..." "Some of the SEC schools have young QBs(not all that different from Texas)"
So who are the SEC teams that have started a true freshman quarterback the last half of the season ?
I'd kill for a Nobel Peace Prize
by MeatchickenHorn on Nov 17, 2011 7:56 PM CST reply actions
If you are for chaos then lets hope that Arkansas beats LSU and OSU beats Oklahoma. Then a slew of one-loss teams!!
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