Case McCoy Likely To Start Against Texas A&M
by Wescott Eberts (GoBR) on Nov 21, 2011 11:56 AM CST
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PrintAfter being listed second behind David Ash on the Texas depth chart at quarterback ever since the Oklahoma State game, Case McCoy is now listed first heading into the Texas A&M game, though he and Ash are still technically co-starters.
Head coach Mack Brown said that he wasn't sure who would trot onto the Kyle field for the first play on Thursday, but did say that team will return to the two quarterback system it used earlier in the season after Garrett Gilbert's demotion.
McCoy helped lead Texas on the two longest drives of the game against Kansas State when he replaced Ash following his second interception of the game midway through the third quarter, accounting for the only Texas touchdown of the day when he found a wide-open Blaine Irby.
The biggest challenge for McCoy against a poor Aggie secondary could be dealing with a front seven that leads the nation in sacks and blitzes 50% of the time. In addition, though Mack Brown said that Jaxon Shipley has a chance to play, the Longhorns could be without him again this week and are also dealing with minor injuries to Marquise Goodwin and Mike Davis.
As for Ash, Brown acknowledged that the true freshman probably tried too hard early in the game and was pressing, which may have accounted for his accuracy issues. The major issue though was the two interceptions, as Brown once again emphasized that the quarterback position much protect the ball after those turnovers resulted in 10 Kansas State points.
As for any discord between the two competing quarterbacks, Brown said that they have a good relationship and there are no tensions between them, while praising Case McCoy's positive attitude when he wasn't playing.
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It's about time.
Mack must be reading my postings. (Yeah, right.) If McCoy starts, it will only help Ash’s game. Until one of these guys proves something, they should both get equal time. I feel that Ash has been overwhelmed in playing entire games. And McCoy gets worse as the game goes along too. Having both playing 50/50 game reps provides both to stay fresh, get experience, motivate the offense, and make the opponents’ defensive game-planning harder. It also makes us depend on Fozzy, DJ, MeanJoe, and, especially, Malcolm Brown to run the ball.
I don't know about 50/50, but mixing it up and playing the hot hand makes a lot of sense...
The two-headed monster approach was working out surprisingly well until the OU game. (And running two QBs was pretty low on the prioritized list of problems we had in that game, IMO.) We were less predictable, in a schizophrenic sort of way, under that scheme.
Yeah, it was working well until the wheels certainly came off vs. 0U.
You are so right.
Worried about B&B
They didn’t look at all healthy. Joe didn’t break the tackles he was breaking last few weeks, and Malcolm’s cuts were considerably slowed.
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by The Audit Horn on Nov 21, 2011 12:30 PM CST via iPhone app up reply actions
Would say
Berg looked about 70 percent and Brown around 80 percent. And they were expected to play against Mizzou? Jeez. We’re probably 8-2 right now if we don’t run our RBs into the ground in subsequent weeks. A grand thought.
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by GoHornsGo90 on Nov 21, 2011 12:44 PM CST up reply actions
Ugh, don't remind me
My head spun when folks were saying to ride Malcolm and Joe to the tune of 25-30 carries each. I didn’t want to see either hit 21.
It wouldn’t change losing Fozzy, which hurts in so many different ways (field position, 3rd and short, and 3rd and long). If we brought out Jeremy Hills on a passing down, it broadcast a pass play. Fozzy was a run and catch threat in those positions. Shocking how irreplaceable Fozzy became.
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by The Audit Horn on Nov 21, 2011 12:49 PM CST via iPhone app up reply actions
The "Wild Fozzy" has been surprisingly effective this year.
Sure do hope that MBrown can do the Wild Thing as well as his senior mentor did.
So know Mack Brown's substitutions....
…… are to blame??
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I like the idea of them both playing
See who’s hot or rather who is the most not hot. But, it also allows the one not on the field to get a look at what is happening for when he goes into the game. I really, really want to beat A&M this year.
We're Texas, We're not OK.
Well, hard to argue with that
Whether Ash has hit the freshman wall or what, he hasn’t been the same last few weeks. Looks like he’s aiming the ball, rather than throwing it. The anticipation and timing isn’t there, and he appears to be regressing. I still think he’s the guy now and moving ahead, but we have to do something to change things up.
Unfortunate part for Case is that this is the worst possible place for him. A&M’s defense is built to take full advantage of his weaknesses. They’ll blitz all day long, and Case’s self sacking tendencies, poor pocket presence, and poor arm strength will likely be magnified in this game. Hope I’m wrong about that.
I also hope I’m right about Aggie’s run D being overrated. Hope we can look at how Mizzou attacked this defense. We’ll need to get some run production out of the QB spot, as Missouri did. That’s why I think Ash should be the guy for this game.
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by The Audit Horn on Nov 21, 2011 12:22 PM CST via mobile reply actions
I didn't get a chance to watch the game Sat.
Didn’t Case have a nice little scramble for a first down or something?
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He scrambled
When the defense was dropping deep late and giving him a few yards. Didn’t make much of it.
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by The Audit Horn on Nov 21, 2011 12:27 PM CST via iPhone app up reply actions
Was actually not a very good play
Don’t think he got the first so the clock kept running.
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by GoHornsGo90 on Nov 21, 2011 12:45 PM CST up reply actions
Right
Both of the final two drives were exercises in futility. Harsin royally screwed the pooch on the second to last with 4 straight passes (why?!?!) but Case is the wrong player to run a one minute offense. His self-sacking tendencies got us in trouble a few times on that drive. I was shocked he almost connected on the deep bomb to Mike D. Damn I wanted that one.
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by The Audit Horn on Nov 21, 2011 12:51 PM CST via iPhone app up reply actions
Agree on the four straight passes
that was unwise.
I also wanted the end zone corner game-tying TD to DJ Grant.
Great call, just not executed well enough.
disagree
hmm I agree that Case probably doesn’t have the best pocket presence but he is CLEARLY the better QB. I’m sorry but Ash is just way too inaccurate and he doesn’t know how to read a defense. I’ve been to every home game this year and to me, Ash does not make good decisions. He just looks like a faster Garrett Gilbert. Oh yeah, and just because Ash is faster doesn’t mean he’s more likely not to get sacked. He’s been sacked way more than Case and at a higher frequency. Our offense needs a passing game and Case is the better passer. He’s not great, but he is our best option.
It seems as though Ash really thrived in the Ash packages.
He was very effective. Defenses had to take in account that he could run or pass.
I don’t mind the duel QB play, as long as plays are being made to put us in a position to win.
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Agree
I remember a few plays that Ash came in earlier in the season and ran zone read plays and then hit Ship on a seam route of the zone read. His passing has to be setup by the zone read running plays, whether he gives it or keeps it.
It was setup on the illusion that he was strictly a run threat. The safeties would bite so hard on those plays. Would like to see a heavy reliance with Ash and zone read again this week.
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by The Audit Horn on Nov 21, 2011 12:58 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
I didn't realize it till that run against TTU
But Ash has some serious wheels. Kid was movin man!
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Harsin hasnt used Ash running ability the last couple of games
Harsins play calling may be Ash biggest problem. He seems to gain confidence and play better after he knocks off a good run or two. Harsin’s game plan has not been very good considering his early season knack for doing something with nothing.
Same with Case
Neither player has been helped by playcalling. Ash has executed designed runs and zone read well, we haven’t gone to it much. Dropping Case back on long drops does not suit him well. Anything longer than a 3 step drop, I’m crossing my fingers.
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by The Audit Horn on Nov 21, 2011 1:22 PM CST via iPhone app up reply actions
Trying to keep Ash healthy
Or at least as healthy as possible. That’s my guess as to why Ash hasn’t run more. He took some a couple of hard hits against Mizzou and a few more on Saturday. He looked hurt to me a couple of times Saturday night coming off the field; it’s the time of year where those dings are adding up, and we’ve already lost a large portion of our offense to injury.
my thought
I think we have seen less Ash running, because we have 2 QBs on the roster. Soon as GG left town the Ash option game ended. I think you may see it come back vs TAMU. I dont think Harsin is on the board, but he is hearing the bitching. I would be shocked if we didnt see all the special plays and some new wrinkles
I would expect that as well.
Harsin must tailor offense to fit QBs but Ash needs to run the option. We’ll need everything in the arsenal that we can muster.
Shiny new toys?
I don’t know. I’m more willing to give him time to settle in and sort out personnel and what each player does. I still believe he’s the right guy, as an offensive architect and playcaller.
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by The Audit Horn on Nov 21, 2011 1:49 PM CST via iPhone app up reply actions
it shouldnt
The Dual QB system worked pretty well until OU
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by horns1025 on Nov 21, 2011 12:57 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
And it worked so well against KSU, too
The QB doesn’t matter, b/c neither can consistently move the ball. Ash has more potential than Rascal, though, and I welcome the opportunity for our defense to pound him into the turf.
The defensive gameplan doesn’t change with either QB, really, I expect us to blitz with impunity and force mistakes.
by Beergut on Nov 21, 2011 1:21 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
they did ok moving the ball when they rotated
When they used Ash as a mainly running QB he had success and it created opprotunities deep. Case coming in then created chances to throw short completions. And of course we got Malcolm and Joe to pound your defense. And as for expectations I expect Texas to hold you to 24 points or less and I expect A&M to have another epic 2nd half collapse
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by horns1025 on Nov 21, 2011 1:44 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Your defense has not pounded anyone into the turf...
These anarchists are making us do CARDIO...
by longhorn35 on Nov 21, 2011 1:46 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
But Jerrod Eddy did grab the balls of that Nub last year
those Aggies seem to have a thing about cupping nuts!
oh hail the Purple and White
by Furnace76 on Nov 21, 2011 7:40 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
somone, que up the yell leader photo
it is priceless.
oh hail the Purple and White
Don't you have your own blog to run?
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well what does he really have to run if only 2 people read it?
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by horns1025 on Nov 21, 2011 1:02 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
True, I suppose these things are pretty self sustaining.
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he wrote a really good "I hate Texas" piece
apparently UT is like a junior college to them. I enjoyed the read hahaha
Sally, will you meet me at the airport?
yea well at least Texas doesnt condone sheep abuse
And Texas girls>A&M “girls” need I say more?
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by horns1025 on Nov 21, 2011 4:02 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
The logpile has been banned.
He only has a campfire to go to.
you not posting here makes me happy
go away troll.
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by dukeoforange on Nov 21, 2011 5:52 PM CST up reply actions
Beergut, what would make you unhappy?
Since you are the expert on the Aggies here, tell us how to beat them.
P.S. Are you really happy with your move to the SEC?
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I was startled when I read the headline
I first read, “Colt McCoy to Start Against Texas A&M,” and I thought I just woke up from a bad dream. Well… too bad.
Anyway, I’m fine with this as long as Ash gets into the game some as well.
by TheElusiveShadow on Nov 21, 2011 12:58 PM CST reply actions
Gah, to have Colt back in a UT Jersey.
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I read that too!
and I got all excited and then I realized it was the little brother. Do you think we could sneak Colt in as Case? The McCoy last name is the same and they look similar enough.
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by willyoubemycharizard on Nov 22, 2011 9:21 PM CST up reply actions
i dont care who starts at QB as long as we beat the aggies
But I’m gonna say I hope its a dual QB system again
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by horns1025 on Nov 21, 2011 1:03 PM CST via mobile reply actions
Happy?
Glad we could help since your win loss record probably won’t, but we share that feeling
by everything horns on Nov 21, 2011 1:04 PM CST reply actions
"Harsin plays"
Maybe I am wrong but…… It seems like we have been very “vanilla” as far as play calling has gone on offense in the last two games. Then, when we do run a “Harsin play”, we score a touchdown. Why has’nt there been more of that?
Personnel
Who were all of our gadget players? Fozzy, John Harris, Jaxon Shipley. The only player we have out there with any capacity for that is probably Miles Onyegbule. Can’t use those guns when we don’t have the bullets.
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by The Audit Horn on Nov 21, 2011 1:18 PM CST via iPhone app up reply actions
Miles can throw, but he kind of slow.
he didnt run away from people in high school. I dont think he could do it now. Maybe throw it to him then let him return the favor.
Onyegbule
I would really like to see more of that guy. I heard a lot of good stuff in camp. He went up and got the ball. We really need a wr that helps the QBs. I dont think we have one currently playing.
Has had two big catches last two weeks
I want more to. With Darius White inexplicably MIA, I had huge hopes for John Harris. When he went down, I was hoping Onyay would step in and surprise.
With that said, damn we need D-Money to have his lightbulb moment.
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by The Audit Horn on Nov 21, 2011 2:10 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Case better
keep his head on a swivel for a full 10 seconds after he throws the ball as Aggies apparently love it when a McCoy gets hit late illegally.
I have a feeling his happy feet get him in trouble early against the Aggie pass rush, he didn’t even get the ball away on fourth down and desperation against K State.
My concerns exactly
Happy feet against a 4 man pass rush with a D in prevent? Gonna get blitzed a ton against Aggie. They already blitz 50% of the time. We’ll likely get blitzed 2 of 3 downs. At this point, Case should get his shot, but this is the worst opportunity for him and the worst matchup.
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by The Audit Horn on Nov 21, 2011 2:27 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
The worst?
Sure, they blitz a lot, but they are ranked dead last in the conference in Passing yards/game, 7th in YPA, and 6th in QB rating.
Iowa State is better in every one of those categories and Case managed just fine.
So, I'm clear.
Just fine is only that…fine. I’m not suggesting Case played exceptionally well against ISU. He did, however, limit turnovers and manage a healthy YPA; two things that would dramatically improve upon what we’re currently getting out of the QB position.
Hahaha
I was halfway through my “um…he was 7/12 for 110 yards” reply when I saw this go up.
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Yeah.
Often what gets lost in these arguments for one or the other is that we’re picking the lesser of two evils. Case is far from perfect, and probably isn’t even average. He does, however, limit turnovers and, at times, help sustain drives. For a team that’s identity is now built around punishing defense and a power run game, it’s an improvement from what we’ve seen lately.
Yeah, the worst
A&M’s defense is predicated on pressure and hitting the QB. The secondary is soft enough that if a QB has a little bit of time (Oklahoma State) or can take a hit (Tyler Wilson), then they can carve that secondary to pieces. Case has neither. The line isn’t there in pass protection yet, and Case tends to get happy feet when pressure is materializing. He lacks the athleticism to get away, as well as the size to stand, deliver, and take a hit.
So, yeah, this is the worst matchup possible for him.
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by The Audit Horn on Nov 21, 2011 2:45 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
C'mon.
I need something to cling to here.
I can’t stomach the idea of losing to the Aggies on Thursday.
How’s this?: Happy feet > turnovers
Even if Case kills some drives with horrible pocket presence, it’s still an upgrade over Ash’s turnovers. If we can win the turnover battle, this defense may give us a shot to play the field position game and keep this game within reach.
That's the argument
It really is the lesser of two evils. I’m holding in to the hope that Ash gives us something with his feet, and that he just doesn’t turn the ball over. The difference in their turnovers is that Case’s will come behind the line of scrimmage, Ash’s will come downfield.
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by The Audit Horn on Nov 21, 2011 3:33 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
or
last few games proved if we can not run it, we are screwed regardless of the QB.
And we cannot run the ball
because we do not have a passing game (read in QB, if you want). We need balance. Yin and yang, grasshopper.
See ya later, alligator and sheep-mater.
by Paleface Horn on Nov 21, 2011 3:45 PM CST up reply actions
They give up
a lot of passing yards because they blitz alot and seasoned quarterbacks make them pay. The point above was that Case tends to get happy feet too early in the face of mild pressure so won’t be able to take advantage of them if he’s jumping around or looking to tuck it too early.
ash
did even better in that game. I am not sure that is a great example
He wasn't running the full offense, though. That was his package.
Since he’s been inserted into the traditional offense he’s been a train wreck.
D-Money?
He’s looking to me like another bad check. as posted above , without Shipley we got nobody to help any QB.
McCoy looked good
For one play, the trickery TD to Irby. He really ran that play to perfection, and surprise ,surprise it worked. He looked like he had ran that play many times in practice.
The most open a receiver was all night
K State played that rollout well all night. Overplayed the run fake on that one snap, and Irby broke free.
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by The Audit Horn on Nov 21, 2011 2:28 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
McAsh
Hate to admit it but McAsh gives us the best QB option right now. Ash is clearly not ready to take over the starting position but plays well in his packages. Mccoy’s greatest asset is that he doesnt throw int’s and is more accurate passer than Ash (well at least for passes less than 30 yrds).
If we cant get the running game going, I fear its gonna be another potential OU debacle with a lot of qb sacks with fumbles etc…
Hopefully, HarsinWhite man up and call a great game and pull out all the stops bc pride is on the line big time
by jtdoes on Nov 21, 2011 3:18 PM CST via mobile reply actions
Aggie blitzes a LOT and our line isn't great at pass blocking.
With Case under center, the offense will likely just be to snap it, have McCoy run around scared, and then fumble it into our end zone for an Aggy TD because he doesn’t secure the ball. I’m not saying Ash would do much better, but passing over the top is likely to be more effective (assuming Ash can hit a receiver, which isn’t a given). I doubt either QB will be very good on Thursday either way, but I’m hopeful for Ash moreso than McCoy.
Apart from that, just run the football.
Cyrus Gray's Arm In A Sling
Gray has a stress fracture in his shoulder. May not play.
Sorry to hear that, but that is AWESOME news for the team !
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by MeatchickenHorn on Nov 21, 2011 3:50 PM CST up reply actions
Great player, I'm sure they'll miss him
I’m liking our RB situation more and more.
He ran over us last year
So not bad news for Longhorns. There is no way he is playing with that injury. I do hope our injured RBs are back to 100%. The QBs really need them.
We're Texas, We're not OK.
Hate to say
I wanted Aggie’s best shot. I really did. No Michael, no Gray. Geez.
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by The Audit Horn on Nov 21, 2011 3:53 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Sherm says it's a game-time decision
I for one would not be looking forward to running the ball against this defense with a fractured shoulder.
Kenny Vacarro alone would make me bawl like a baby.
Just consider it an even contest
Both teams are hobbled by injuries that would decimate most teams.
TEXAS FIGHT
what is it about Big 12 RBs going down this year?
Fozzy, Whaley, Michael, Gray, Josey, not a good year to be a Big 12 back
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by horns1025 on Nov 21, 2011 3:53 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Faurot Field
Happened to a healthy portion of the Big 12.
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by The Audit Horn on Nov 21, 2011 3:55 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
I was surprised Klein didn't go down after the beating he took from us Saturday night.
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by MeatchickenHorn on Nov 21, 2011 3:58 PM CST up reply actions
#aggiefail
Looks like they’re stuck with Sherm:
Although media reports have indicated Sherman can be bought out for $1.8 million at the end of this season, an A&M source with knowledge of the situation said Sunday that the actual figure is “a lot more than that,” placing the total closer to $9 million.
Ouch!
If Harsin(in his freshman learning curve) has McCoy trying to pass during our first possesion, just call in the dogs.....
The aggs are going to throw the kitchen sink at us the first few possessions, and if we let Ash try and throw at all, its going to be a long evening.
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by MeatchickenHorn on Nov 21, 2011 3:52 PM CST reply actions
no way
i want a flee-flicker the first play. Aggies will be coming with a head of steam to shut down the run. Dial it up, Harsin..
Ball snaps to McCoy who has Ag linebacker charging, he hands to MB who run into another ag LB and pitches the ball back to McCoy who now is surrounded by aggies......
Do I need to go any further….?
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by MeatchickenHorn on Nov 21, 2011 4:09 PM CST up reply actions
Do you know how to keep an Ag Linebacker from charging?
Don’t let him watch QVC.
Freshly shaved sheep in endzone behind them? It would be a footrace between the LB core and the gay icecream men.
by horninraidercountry on Nov 21, 2011 6:35 PM CST via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
SEC
The McCoy family, always losing to the SEC. First Bama, now A&M.
by Bisquick_in_da_MGM on Nov 21, 2011 3:57 PM CST reply actions
Get back to your room.....you have homework and dont want to fail the 7th grade again.
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by MeatchickenHorn on Nov 21, 2011 4:00 PM CST up reply actions
ok thats it dude
He’s an SEC fan he probably didn’t finish 6th
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by horns1025 on Nov 21, 2011 4:07 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
LOL awesome
Because we're Texas and we're evil. DUH.
by iamjackburton on Nov 21, 2011 4:53 PM CST up reply actions
By The Numbers
5-2: Texas’ record against Texas A&M in their annual State Farm Lone Star Showdown.
8-4: Texas’ record against A&M on games played on Nov. 24. Overall, the Longhorns are 13-6-1 on Nov. 24 games.
12.0: The average number of points Texas A&M has scored against Texas.
19-12: The average score in this 117-game rivalry, in favor of the Longhorns.
24-22-2: Texas’ all-time record at Kyle Field.
40: Times that either Texas or Texas A&M were shut out. The Aggies have put up zero points 27 times in this series, the Longhorns 13 times.
42-19-2: Texas’ record against A&M in games played on Thanksgiving.
48: The biggest point difference in any single Texas vs. Texas A&M game. It was the second one ever played, a 48-0 shutout win for the Longhorns in 1898.
57: The most number of points Texas has scored in this game, a 57-28 win in 1977.
75-37-5: Texas’ all-time record vs. Texas A&M.
851: In their 117 games so far, Texas has scored 851 more total points than A&M.
1,405: All-time points Texas A&M has scored against Texas.
2,256: All-time points Texas has scored against A&M.
and this is a rivalry???
We have a winning record on their field… HaHa HaHa… (KSU is not real… KSU is not real)
These anarchists are making us do CARDIO...
Even with a loss on Thursday
Winning record at Kyle and double their wins all-time.
where are numbers for fake injuries?
I know the Aggie defense is leading the Big 12 in “cramps” this yr
Good grief! Do the math:
51-15-3 in this rivalry played in Austin. Wow!
the aggy record against the SEC is top notch.... go ahead and go there...
These anarchists are making us do CARDIO...
SEC! SEC! SEC!
You know how it goes. Simple as simple does for simple folk.
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by iamjackburton on Nov 21, 2011 4:53 PM CST up reply actions
Injuries on both sides
sucks that both teams seem to be limping into this game with injuries (texas= ship, fozzy, MB, Joe B at less than 100% etc..) (Aggies= gray, michael etc..) but its football so it is what it is.
Without their backs, Aggies are gonna be just as one dimensional like Texas but just opposite. Aggies will be forced to throw bc they can’t run and Texas will be forced to run bc we cant throw.
I hope Harsin is making the QB’s practice screens screens and more screens to alleviate the pressure and cut down the sacks. I still think Ash will play a large role in this game with the play action stuff… we need to hit a few deep balls to shorten drives.
"Tried too Hard?"
I would feel better if Mack just said that is what happens to freshmen sometimes. This is starting to smack of GG treatment.
Change isn't good or bad it just "is". Don Draper of Madmen
Think he's right
As the game has gone on, Ash has gotten worse. Early, he hasn’t had problems throwing the ball away, or tucking it and picking up a few. Later, he starts backing up, or throwing into coverage. He’s pressing, and aiming, and all the other things you’d expect of a true freshman that’s trying to shoulder a load he’s not ready to yet.
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by The Audit Horn on Nov 21, 2011 5:29 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Actually, that was also said about Colt up through his junior year.
He had more than a few games, usually in the first half of the season, where he tried to take it all on himself. Once he relaxed, he played much better. It’s not unusual for young players to feel that way.
What if you had to face statues and Heisman’s from Earl and Ricky and the ceaseless murmur of the legends of Bobby Lane, James Street, VY and Colt as well as alumni richer than you ever imagined, all patting you on the back, telling you that you are the one to keep the tradition going. Not to mention those 100,000 voices on Saturday and thousands more like us scribbling in anonymity.
Is it even possible to not ‘try too hard’ in such an environment? There’s a lot a UT qb must learn and only some of it has to do with the actual plays on the field.
Colt had his naysayers those first two years
Me among them. Felt his freshman production was a product of playing on a loaded squad, and that he was a bad fit for a 2007 team with zero pass blocking. This is all with the benefit of a redshirt year and better/more experienced talent.
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by The Audit Horn on Nov 21, 2011 5:36 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Yup
A fire was lit under him during the practices for the Holiday Bowl and the rest is history.
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Great list.
Just don’t forget Tommy Nobis. I would say that completes the 7-strong Mt. Rushmore of UT Football.
bullshit.
Bergeron and Brown would not have played a down if GDGD was still here…and I would be bald with an ulcer and an addiction in a locked unit.
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by OnMySignal on Nov 22, 2011 4:42 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
6-6
6-6 plus the bowl game. Wow.
Time to kick another field goal at the end of a game instead of trying to tie the game.
It would be nice to at least see our coaches give the team its best chance to win games. Trying to score with 2:30 left would have been one attempt to tie. Had it not worked, KState would have been on about the 5. Our D had been stopping them, so it’s likely we would have received the ball again about mid-field. At that point, we would have have a second chance to tie.
Two chances to tie the game are actually twice as good as one chance, right?
Mack didn’t see it that way.
its done lets focus on beating A&M
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by horns1025 on Nov 21, 2011 5:19 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Case with 4th and 9?
Give me a FG all freaking day.
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by The Audit Horn on Nov 21, 2011 5:27 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Give you a loss all freaking day?
You go for the win there.
You create an environment for heroic plays. How quickly we forget Tony Jones vs. Arkansas, Street’s fourth-and-4, VY’s 4th down run…we’re Texas for a reason.
David Ash and Case McCoy are not James Street and Vince Young
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by horns1025 on Nov 21, 2011 5:35 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
As said, Case is neither Vince nor Street
I’m not depending in Case to complete 4th and 9. At all. Ever. Take the points, depend on the D to get you the ball with 3 to go (which they did) and go for the win there with the whole playbook available. I’m not leaning on McCoy to complete 4th and 9, or hoping to get a TD simply for OT.
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by The Audit Horn on Nov 21, 2011 5:40 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
But you would depend on Case to drive 50 yards for a TD?
That’s the most likely alternative, and the one he proved unable to produce.
Come short on 4th and 9 and our best unit is on the field against K-State’s offense. Hell, if we missed, we our odds might be higher of scoring a TD vs. those of our offense moving the ball from the 50.
I wouldn't
And didnt expect us to. We got it back at the 50 with 2:40 and a chance to win. Plenty of time to run the full offense. But, inexplicably, Harsin runs the exact same wheel/spot combo has before that gets broken up, then runs out J Hills (broadcasting our passing intentions) and almost throws a pick. Unless I’m mistaken, 4th and 10 was a sack. Right?
We had enough time, down 4 from the 50, to run the full offense. Worst case scenario, we run a lot of time and have to take a few shots into the end zone from close for the win.
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by The Audit Horn on Nov 21, 2011 6:23 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
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How is it higher? Figure a 35 yd net punt. Puts it at the 45, virtually the same. Of course, we try the 20th unsuccessful punt there. Which brings me to why the hell are we always in punt block. Diggs can run, I believe he only returned one punt with return called and if he did not step out we had the ball on the 35. Give him a chance vs aggies
Nobody has seen enough of Case to say that.
Nobody thought James Street was it either, They had to do something, Bill Bradley, MR all everything couldnt play QB worth a crap in a Texas uniform for what ever reason. And everybody thought Bill Bradley was it, until he wasnt. Then Street took over. Wonder if Ash can Play safety.Bill Bradley was a hell of a db. You dont know what Case is until he gets the gametime Ash and GG got. Harsins new offense had everybody screwed up because its brand new to them. Both our qbs ran the spread in high school.
I hope to heck he shuts you nay sayers up.
We get that you didn't agree with the call but ...
… in Tony Jones & VY’s cases, they were essentially the last desperation plays of those games w/ no time left. I’ll give you Street & Peschel, though, w/ 5 minutes remaining. It was truly the gutsiest play in Longhorn history. Until Case McCoy bucks up and starts puttin’ some skins on the wall, I don’t think he was going to be successful on 4th & 9 there. But it sure woulda been fun to see what woulda happened.
It seemed a damn desperate situation to me.
15 points in the last seven quarters up until then might do that to you, you know.
FG was right move
4th and 9 was low percentage play. 10-20% chance. Not much different than getting the ball at the 50. No 2 chances to tie are worse than the 2 chances we had with the ball to win. Think about that
From a guy who has watched the KSU defense all year, I'll weigh in:
Normally, I’d agree with kicking the FG, but for this game it was the wrong decision. First, you were at the 9 yard line because your big back broke a 60 yard run to get down there. Other than that play and the Irby TD catch, your offense had shown no ability to get big chunks of yardage or to sustain drives. So you were sniffing the goal line, and although the odds were slim of getting the 1st down or the TD from the 9 yd line, there had been no showing that you were going to GET THAT CLOSE to the goal line again.
So, you don’t score? We may have to punt from the 5 yd line. You came very close to blocking about two of our previous punts. Or we fumble.
Once UT kicked the FG, I knew we had it won. Remember the Miami game for KSU. Our D is in the comfort zone with last minute heroics this year. So, in this case, I think Mack should have gone for the TD. JMO, based on how the game had been playing out.
oh hail the Purple and White
But
Getting the ball at the 50 doesn’t require a sustained drive. Plus it is a different animal when the have 4 downs opposed to 3.
the 4 downs to make 10 is an excellent point
You had about an 18 yard punt return to get the ball out to the 50. It was our one breakdown on kick return of the night. Close call. I agree that the play calling once you got to the 12 yard line was weird. I would have pounded the ball with the idea of having 4 downs to make 10. Instead, you passed on the first 2 downs (am I remebering correctly?)
oh hail the Purple and White
no
the first 2 plays were running plays. I believe Harsin intended to run it 4 times, based on those calls. Once they got 0 yards on them he was forced to throw.
Our defense is stout in the Red Zone
see Miami game. Our linebackers are underrated.
oh hail the Purple and White
That goes without saying.
KState’s Defense, w/ the exception of an infamous Big 12* title game vs. aggy, has always been underrated. They didn’t sneak up on any informed & educated Texas fan.
Who cares
Just run out the string and hope we find the right guy next year.
Before you criticize someone, walk a mile in their shoes. If they get mad, you're a mile away AND you have their shoes.
FG on 4th & 9
was right move. BUT where we messed up was the playcalling on 1st and 2nd down. two predictable runs up the middle that set up another 3rd and 9 predictable pass play.
have no idea why on 1st down you don’t go play action and take a shot at the end zone there. KSU was obviously loading the box. On 2nd down, we could have went wildcat or a jet sweep or another play action…
Major?
… can’t he takeover the QB’s? He has done a fantastic job with the RB’s and he didn’t even play RB.
To me, Ash is the guy. McCoy brings less than zero to the table and would be lucky to be 3rd string at a JUCO in East Texas. God I would have loved to see what Connor Wood could do.
If Major took over McCoy would be the guy.
Major looks at your head as much as your guns. Remember he sat while the pretty girl danced.
Cyrus Gray injury looms large ...
Aggies passing game vs. Horns running game. Even if Gray can play, his effectiveness will certainly be limited. Texas is bringing the wood. If A&M becomes one dimensional (i.e., K-State or Tech), then Texas’s D will shut them down. It could very well be another game of 17 points or less by a UT opponent. If so, we have an excellent chance to win.
I expect a game effort out of the Horns. I think the McAsh is the best solution now. Funny, but every one was clamoring for one guy when it looks like both are limited such that using both of them makes the most sense.
If we get Shipley on the field … will be a huge boost. Reading between the lines of Mack’s comments today, I suspect he was wanting to see Ship practice. It has been a huge hole in the passing game having him out.
I will change my legal name to "I. M. Harsin" if Texas scores on a Statue of Liberty or Hook-and-Ladder vs. OU."
by Distributor of the Football on Nov 21, 2011 10:19 PM CST reply actions
ill be honest Ryan Swoope scares the hell out of me
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by horns1025 on Nov 22, 2011 12:03 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
"He's not a machine ... He's just a man!" Don't fear the Swope.
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How is it that I’m a loyal Longhorn fan from Oklahoma, but would never bash any of our players the way some of you all have been doing Case?? The dude makes plays when given the chance, it may not look pretty when he does it but he gets it done. Did any of you Case haters realize he gave us a chance to win last saturday? Ash hasn’t thrown a td since becoming the starter, but Case has thrown 2tds(and 0ints) since being demoted. Instead of dissing Case for his smaller frame & lack of elite arm strength, lets rally behind him like all the annoying sooner fans do for their players(like they did for paul thompson who sucked eggs). Bottom line is Case gives us a better chance to win because he takes care of the ball, and is more accurate of a passer…hook em’
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by okhornfan on Nov 22, 2011 12:29 AM CST via mobile reply actions
Case
I just watched the 1 am reply of the k-state on FSSW, too bad I tuned in at 2:30 so I only saw the last 7 minutes of the game. Wish I could have seen Ash’s performance again, because I felt like I got a way better perspective seeing it all again. From what I saw outta Case, he didn’t get it done at all. K-state was playing a soft prevent style D with minimal rush and he was missing recievers just as bad as Ash, the K-State guy just decided to drop the INT. He kept running into the rushers too, which worries me against the A&M front and their 50% blitz style. I will admit I have been behind Ash since the swtich from GG, but it’s mainly based on I think he gives us the best chance to win. Neither Ash or Case gave us a chance to win last saturday, our defense is the only reason we had a chance at all.
Haters gonna Hate.
Yeah, I’ve been shocked at this as well. For a fanbase so vehemently against Sims and Gilbert having been prematurely “anointed” because of their prototypical talent & size, you’d think that Case would be given a bit of leeway. Ash has proved nothing at all in separating himself from McCoy yet people still call for McCoy to ride the pine. This year, at least, they should both be given equal reps and equal recognition for the things that each are doing well as green underclassmen. Folks gotta have patience.
Ash clearly became the top target after the Texas summer camp before his junior season. Already on the radar after a strong debut as a sophomore, Ash reportedly impressed Greg Davis while working out in front of him in Austin and was pulled aside by the former Texas offensive coordinator after the camp for a brief conversation.
Makes you go hmmmmm.
See ya later, alligator and sheep-mater.
SEC
A&M is going out of the Big XII a winner and move to the best conference in college football. The Texas/ Chokelahoma monopoly is over.
SEC, SEC, SEC!
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the best conference in terms of cheating and paying players
$EC, $EC
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by horns1025 on Nov 22, 2011 12:52 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Glad to see everybody
Jumping off the David ash bandwagon… That kid can’t play…. Redshirt brewer and live a die with case for this year and next…. Keep ash on the bench and maybe let him come in and run zone read once in a while… But I’m so glad that ship sailed…
by drobe86 on Nov 22, 2011 1:48 PM CST via mobile reply actions
dontt think they are gonna just play Case probably gonna go back to rotating QBs
Take advantage of everything they both do best
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by horns1025 on Nov 22, 2011 2:00 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Well all I’m looking forward to is coming out of College Station with a win. Everyone doubting McCoy’s ability may need to rethink what they’re saying though. Let’s take a look at the numbers first off. No INT’s compared to Ash’s 8 is a big stand out if you ask me. Yeah I’ll agree that A&M’s defense is a QB eater but we can’t just run against them. I’ve seen McCoy play before and he’s no push over, he does have legs and I’ve seen him step up in the pocket AND run when he needs to. And if given the chance I guarantee you he won’t be forcing throws or throwing BEHIND his receivers like Ash has been doing. We shall see on Thanksgiving though. Everyone have a great one and HOOK ’EM!!! \m/
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