Texas Basketball: Legends Classic Notes
Now that I've calmed down a little bit, let's talk a little bit about our performance in the Legends Classic. The good news is that we should have won both games. As I made clear, the officials played no small part in both outcomes -- we got absolutely jobbed in both games -- but the bulk of the failures are still are own.
Our team defense and rebounding showed signs of development, but we weren't able to play well for two full halves. Consistency is going to be critical for this group, and as young as we are that's a lot to hope for; this is likely to be an issue all season. Second, our odds of making the NCAA Tournament are tied directly to how far -- and how quickly -- Kabongo and McClellan can come along this season. Both have shown flashes of important contributions, but they're both in the adjustment phase where they're learning to play with Big 6 caliber athletes. Third, Rick Barnes has got to do a better job managing our end games, and he didn't do us any favors in either loss -- one reason I'm not too fond of his calling out J'Covan as harshly as he did. You've got some stepping up to do, as well, Rick. And fourth, we simply have to do a better job with avoiding cheap fouls. The officials were horrible in East Rutheford, but part of it's our lack of size and lack of experience/maturity. We can't afford to lose Holmes and Kabongo and Brown for significant stretches of the game. It just can't happen.
After the jump, some individual player notes.
J'Covan Brown -- Brown's fourth foul against NC State was utter horseshit, and yes, given his importance to the team he needed to shut up and take it, but he had every right to be miffed. He literally didn't touch the player and got whistled. Those who are trashing JCB right now aren't paying attention to the maturity and leadership he's displayed over the past two years. One technical foul -- and even that barely looked deserved -- and overwhelmingly positive attitude the rest of the time. The argument that Brown needs to grow up is essentially an argument that because he's so important to the team, he must be perfect. Well, okay -- sure, that would be really helpful, but let's not confuse that standard with him being some renegade hothead. Those days are long gone, and I'm disappointed in Barnes for calling him out like he did. Frankly, the way the last two games were being called, Barnes should have gotten a technical foul for his players, rather than blaming them for everything. And like I said above, Barnes has his own blame for our losses to work on.
I don't need to say much about his on-court play, which was brilliant throughout. He was, if anything, too unselfish at times and we need to run just about every offensive possession through him. He's the best guard in the Big 12.
Myck Kabongo -- The freshman point guard got his first taste of Big 6 caliber athletes and he struggled. There's no reason to worry -- with Myck the question is absolutely 'when,' not 'if.' It's hard to remember, but even the most talented freshmen take a half season to get going; even the great Kevin Durant didn't really get cooking until his masterpieces at Tech and Colorado.
Jonathan Holmes -- By far the biggest and most pleasant surprise of the early season, Holmes is our second-most important player (behind Brown). Holmes is athletic, he can extend you to 20 feet, he's got great handles, good quickness, and terrific touch around the rim. His defense and rebounding are a work-in-progress, but there's already been progress in this young season. Both Oregon State and NC State's rallies came when Holmes got in foul trouble; we need him to be out there for 30 minutes a game.
Sheldon McClellan -- Like with Holmes, there's progress every game with McClellan, and if that progress continues he's going to be a crucial player for us by conference season. He's already close to supplanting Lewis as a starter, and his length and athleticism help him provide value this team desperately needs. I want to see him focus on being a rebounder; everything else is coming along very nicely.
Julien Lewis -- He's a gamer and he's got a pure stroke, but he struggled at the Legends Classic -- like Kabongo he had difficulty with the length and strength of Big 6 caliber athletes. The game's moving a little fast for him right now, but the core strengths are there. He's a freshman. It'll take a little while before the consistency develops.
Alexis Wangmene -- Lexi had a strong tournament for us, providing precisely the kind of value we need from him. If he could give us 6-8 rebounds a game, he'll be an important player for us. Wangmene's performance this weekend was very encouraging, and important if he can provide that kind of value consistently. We'll see.
Clint Chapman -- Chapman had a poor showing in both games, fouling out against Oregon State and picking up 3 fouls in 9 minutes against NC State. The offensive skill is real, but his feet and lateral movement are both still incredibly slow, limiting his value against athletic teams. Which, needless to say, the Big 12 is loaded with.
Jaylen Bond -- He's an explosive athlete, but he hasn't figured out how to put it to productive use yet. The reports of his mid-range game appear to be greatly exaggerated, but he does have real ability to finish around the rim. He needs to find his inner Damion James and get after it on the glass, because being undersized and without the ability to create his own shot that's the only real way he can make a consistent impact.
Sterling Gibbs -- He's fine as a low-usage back up, but the game is moving waaaay too fast for him right now and on a deeper team he'd be redshirting. He's fearless and confident, which I like, but he's going to keep turning it over way too much to play more than 5-10 minutes a game.
All in all, there's still plenty to like about this group of players, and look, we should have won both of these games. This team can be good. But we also saw why this team could easily fall short of the NCAA Tournament. We're young, we're undersized, and for both reasons we're prone to foul trouble. If the foul trouble trend continues, we're going to the NIT, no two ways about it. Our pressure man-to-man defense has been pretty good to us, but it's leading to too many fouls, which then sends us into a zone, which has its own set of issues. This was all predicted, of course. so there aren't any easy answers here.
We'll get a chance to do some of the developing we need to do against some easy opponents, and if we can sweep the small schools and beat UCLA and Temple, we'll be in good shape heading in to Big 12 play.
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"The argument that Brown needs to grow up is essentially an argument that because he's so important to the team, he must be perfect."
Dood who wrote that post did not even watch the game.
Pathetic.
Just in case my comment in the game thread was overlooked
Rick saying Brown let down his teammates. “The question is how many more times until he figures it out? He should have done that by now.”
Funny, Rick. I thought when you jumped into the 2-3 zone under 10:00 gave them the room to maneuver in and around your guys for about 9 straight points. Why did it take you so long to pull out of that set? C’mon and take some credit for your coaching mistake.
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I was flabergasted listening to Rick throw his star under the bus in the post game comments. Terrible decision on the part of Barnes. And then to boot, J’Covan issued a public apology? Give me a f’ng break.
“I’m mad that I made that mistake,” Brown said after fouling out with a team-best 17 points, seven assists and three rebounds. “But that’s behind me and I’m ready to get past that. And I can’t put my team in that type of position ever again. So I gotta learn from it and just move on with it.”
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J’Covan issued a public apology
Indeed he did. The kid has become a real leader.
I would think Barnes would want to make lemonade out of J’Covan’s foul-out lemons by seeing if his team could win without their star guard. And they nearly pulled it off.
Everyone on this board needs to stop pretending we know more about these players than Barnes
Seriously, it has to stop. He’s their coach and obviously knows far better than us which buttons need to get pushed to motivate his players.
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Pushing buttons
From what we can tell (obviously only based on what we see during games), Barnes has rode Brown about as hard as any player I can remember. It seems like Brown responds to it. This is a guy who has clearly worked very hard on his game over the last couple of years. Look at how well Brown is playing after Barnes has been on him so hard for all of these years. I don’t think we need to worry about Brown’s psyche.
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Frankly, I've thought he was better than people starting over him
for the last couple of years. He’d probably have developed more if Barnes hadn’t pulled all his hijinks constantly. It was pretty evident the teams were better when he was on the court more often than not.
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Balbay
I imagine this is who you are really talking about. Brown played a lot last seaon. Even though he didn’t start, he was sort of a co-starter in terms of minutes (played about 300-400 minutes fewer than the starters did). Last season, Brown basically spit minutes with Balbay. Brown actually played 100 more minutes than Balbay. Brown was clearly more skilled offensively than Balbay. Balbay was probably one of the very best on ball defenders in all of college basketball, which allowed us to do very well defensively. This was the trade-off. Both did something very good on the floor.
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Great thoughts, Peter
And thanks for the link.
Like you, after some time to stew, I do agree with your POV as well. The Barnes comments, on its face, were puzzling. I think Texas fans are partially used to seeing Barnes exhibit public frustration with his players, and are used to seeing “bad J’Covan” rear his head, that it became a generally accepted meme that “oh, J’Covan blew up again.” That’s certainly how it’s playing out in the national media—see the Winn article, or Jeff Borzello, or Andy Katz… And if we learned anything from the LHN/realignment debacle, it’s that media perception is damn important. Still, that’s not to discount Barnes. Coaching is an equally important component to success, and the NC State loss is by no means on Brown’s ejection alone. Barnes should take an equally important share of the blame.
I didn’t see the follow-up J’Covan quote that TXStampede linked to until after I published mine. It’s in the AAS article by Adam Zagoria, and it’s certainly worth noting. Hopefully, this truly is a learning experience for Brown and something he’ll grow on.
The argument that we need Brown to be essentially perfect is an apt one, I think. Essentially, he’s been perfect to date, save for picking up a fifth foul and not being able to finish out against NC State. But if we look at your player recap—the first four players listed are freshmen, six of eight total are freshmen, our two of four senior big men have shown close to nothing for three years. We do need Brown to be perfect, at least early on until our freshmen get their legs under them. Because these wins or losses do matter if and/or when we’re sitting on the bubble come February.
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Although I don’t see how the media perception is particularly relevant. Either he steps up and doesn’t make mental mistakes or he doesn’t. What Luke Winn thinks about J’Covan’s attitude isn’t particularly relevant. Perception matters when you’re talking about consumer opinion (as with the Longhorn Network); it doesn’t matter when you’re talking about a binary outcome entirely within your control (as with J’Covan Brown being smart/not-smart).
75-37-5. Now GTFO.
Bond's rebounding
For what it is worth, the stats suggest that Bond’s is doing pretty good work on the defensive glass in the minutes he has so far. Samples are still pretty small at this point, but in three out of the first four games Bond has led the team (or tied for the lead) in defensive rebounding percentage. I will show some of these data in tomorrow’s post.
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Of course you will...
We’re lucky to have you and your diligent data work. Can’t wait for the next round of it!
by BeeCaveHornFan on Nov 22, 2011 11:37 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Interesting to note:
Our best offense thus far has come when Myck has been off the floor and JCB has run Pick-and-Roll to break down the defense either by pass or shot.
It’ll be interesting to me to see what offense we ultimately end of utilizing in the half court when both Myck and JCB are on the floor. Personally, I hope we take a page out of UConn’s book from last year and run similar sets to what they did for Kemba to give him some help.
The last piece of the offense will be, what is our identity when JCB is off the floor. Once this is established and I expect it to be either manufactured O via the Jazz offense or possibly Pick and Roll with Myck and Holmes with JLewis and McClellan moving off the wings.
Either way, I love the talent level I have seen from all the freshman save Gibbs and Bonds. Not to say they don’t have talent but obviously they will take longer to develop and contribute.
I really don't think it's asking too much for Brown to play a game without getting a T
it’s sad that we’re worried about a junior demonstrating immaturity issues over any of these freshman. Kabongo comes off as the most mature player on the entire roster.
by goingforthecorner on Nov 24, 2011 3:34 PM CST reply actions

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