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Texas Banquet Notes: All QB Options Considered, Early Entrants, and More

After losing Will Muschamp during the banquet last season, getting through the night without losing any highly-considered assistants has to count as a success. At least stability is a good feeling, right?

As always, everyone got an award, tough the tenor was perhaps slightly more sincere this season with the final opportunity for the team for honor injured running back Fozzy Whittaker, who won five awards and received a standing ovation from this teammates and those otherwise in attendance. A well-deserved moment that shows the type of love you can get back from the Texas football family with hard work, dedication, and by representing yourself with the utmost class.

Recruiting update. As always, the banquet is the last major recruiting event before the class signs in February, with whatever commits aren't still participating in the state playoffs coming in for their official visits and a few prospects still being recruited, as well. Of the latter, there were three important visitors for the Longhorns -- five-star defensive end and Florida State commit Mario Edwards, four-star defensive end and LSU commit Torshiro Davis, and fast-rising safety and Baylor commit Adrian Colbert, now ranked third in the country at the position by 247Sports.

Star-divide

The most likely to commit was Colbert, who did not pull the trigger for the Longhorns Saturday afternoon despite simply tweeting "24" on his account, leading some to believe it meant that he had just become the 24th commitment of the 2012 class. Colbert quickly notified the services that he had not made the call for Texas, but it doesn't seem out of line to be optimistic that it will happen, possibly as soon as the next few days. Colbert was hosted on his trip by Marquise Goodwin, apparently exciting enough to earn a #TooKrunk designation from the hard-hitting safety.

Edwards and Davis are harder ciphers. There's as much optimism about Edwards as there has been in about a year or so and Manny Diaz has some stuff on film that he can sell to the freakishly athletic 280-pound Edwards and his former Dallas Cowboy father. For Davis, it feels a lot like Jermauria Rasco last year in that even if the kid really likes Texas, the pressure to stay in Louisiana is incredible. I mean, it's LSU fans we're talking about. Still have to think that wins out. The report from Hookem's Dave Behr that Davis looked the least engaged ($) of the three doesn't spark too many positive feelings either. Still, maybe a miracle happened for Texas. Just don't count on it.

Mack sunshine pumping about Okafor and Vaccaro. The talk will turn really serious after the bowl game, but it's never too early to start serious speculation about the early entrance candidates at this time of the season. This year, it's defensive end Alex Okafor and safety Kenny Vaccaro in the spotlight days after both received recognition from the coaches as 1st-team All-Big 12.

Predictably, Brown was chipper about the prospects of both returning, because, really, what else would he say?

You have to think they are two guys who could look around, but right now I'm not feeling like either one of them will even sniff it. I think they're ready to win a bowl game, go back to spring practice and try to have a great year next year.

Okay, so right now they're focused on the bowl game, despite Vaccaro wondering out loud on Twitter about the decision facing him. Sure, Mack, whatever you say. And that's not even passing judgment on coach or player either because that's how this dance plays out.

Realistically, Okafor is more likely to stick around given that he needs further refinement to his mostly raw pass-rushing skills. What happens with Machete may mostly depend on the draft evaluation that he gets after the bowl game and how much he thinks he can improve that grade he gets with another season. If he gets a third-round grade -- which seems possible if not likely -- does he decide that he could sneak up into the second round with a strong senior season? And does he want to wait to take care of his family, particularly his mother?

One more time: It's. About. The. Process. Considering that the talk in this space and the words on the lips of Mack Brown throughout the spring and fall have been about the process, it was a bit disappointing that so many still missed the point as recently as this week:

Texas fans want to talk about wins -- and rightly so -- but your level of satisfaction with this season probably depends on your ability to distinguish output and process. Our output this season was in many ways dissatisfying: five losses including a blowout in Dallas, uneven offensive line play from a hodge-podge collection of bodies, miserable quarterback play, etc. But that output was in many ways determined by mistakes made long before this season, under a coaching regime that has been thoroughly overhauled.

It's the same type of theme that Brown himself built on when asked to asses the season ($) Friday night:

After looking at it, you always want to win as many games as you can. But the purpose of this year was to get out of the funk we were in last year and get headed back in the right direction, and we did that.

We had chance after chance. We had a chance to win against Kansas State. We didn't play very well at Missouri. We had a chance to beat Oklahoma State. I wanted to see our work ethic get better and see our toughness get back.

And I was talking to our coaches today. There was so much change last year. Everything will be better in the spring. The coaches will know each other better. It will be easier to make adjustments. We may not have coaching changes, unlike last year when we had six.

I think this recruiting class may be better than last year's, and last year's was unbelievable. So I think we are headed on our way back in the right direction.

After giving up on a handful of games in 2010 or flat-out not showing up at all, the worst comment about the effort of the 2011 team was the poor mental response to not having Brown, Bergeron, and Shipley and then having the heart of soul of the team ripped out when Faurot Field shredded Fozzy Whittaker's knee. The defense especially took responsibility for the need to do almost everything instead of pointing fingers at the ineptitude of the offense.

The bricks aren't all in place yet, but the wall is in progress.

All quarterback options on the table. The question on the mind of every Texas fan over the last week or so has been the possibility of Texas looking at a JUCO or graduate transfer quarterback. At the banquet, the question was posed to Brown:

We're looking at it right now because our quarterbacks are still young. It's funny. Right after the Baylor game, everyone scattered. Everyone goes recruiting. We didn't have our first staff meeting until this morning.

Today, we were just talking about the possibilities of what would be out there or what we'd look at. Or do we just continue in the light we're in now? We'll have another staff meeting Sunday and pull together some more thoughts than we have right now.

Everyone's favorite option may essentially be off the table by the time that Brown and the Texas staff sit down to talk about it -- that would be former Notre Dame quarterback Dayne Crist, currently taking in the Kansas-Ohio State basketball game with new Jayhawk coach Charlie Weiss, the man who recruited him to South Bend in the first place. For all intents and purposes, that looks like a done deal.

Right now, one of the names that seems to be gaining the most traction is Jacob Karam, the Texas Tech transfer who has already graduated after 2 and a half years in school, therefore becoming eligible to play immediately. Karam was a three-star recruit by Rivals out of Friendswood. The major concern with Karam would be his size at about 6-0. In high school, he made up for it with a quick release and good footwork, as well as by making plays with his feet.

The other name floating around is former Tennessee prep star Bo Wallace, now considered one of the junior college quarterbacks after a season that saw him guide East Mississippi CC to the JUCO national championship. Jason Suchomel of Orangebloods has reported that Wallace has expressed interest in Texas. The two-star recruit by Rivals was Tennessee's Mr. Football as a senior and spent a season at Arkansas State before leaving. His only other offer out of high school was Tennessee Tech.

As a runner, the 6-4, 200 pounder can make some plays with solid straight-line speed -- close in overall speed to David Ash, though Wallace has a slimmer build. As a passer, Wallace could get the ball there in high school, but he has one of the slowest deliveries in the world, dropping the football and then pausing before the top of his motion, an arrest in his mechanics that essentially kills whatever energy he built up with his long windup. It gets there, it just looks ugly as all heck. At least in high school -- it's possible that he's cleaned things up, but won't really be known until some film of this season comes out.

D$ could be on his way out. Evaluating the future of Darius White at Texas over the last half of the season was mostly an exercise in hoping for some sign that he could make the type of impact that would decrease his odds of ending up as a major attrition candidate.

A Daily Texan Sports tweet early Saturday afternoon cited multiple sources close to the program saying White is on his way out, with A&M as a possible destination. Whether that would play with the coaching staff remains to be seen, but it looks like the moment everyone worried about might be close -- the official end to White's time at Texas.

The thought here was that strong bowl practices might have been enough to save White, but it seems pretty clear at this point that the coaches don't trust the enigmatic prep star. And right now, if the staff doesn't trust a player, the message right now seems to be a strong recommendation for a kid to look at other options. Like a reminder that scholarships are one-year deals.

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Wallace seems like an interesting idea. I’m generally not a fan of the juco route, but it seems that horse is out of the barn, so on to reality we go. Wallace may not be considered an elite prospect, but that’s just really hard to gauge anywhere, even at the juco level. Heupel was considered an unremarkable juco transfer coming out of Snow, and the same can be said for a lot of QBs. Could he make a difference? I have no idea.

Obviously it’d be great to keep Giles’ stable stocked with elite talent, as Okafor, Wilson, and Jeffcoat are all going to be upperclassmen next year (assuming Okafor stays). Mario Edwards would be an absolute coup, and while I know there’s the issue of whether he’ll be able to stay at end, I think we can all agree that Mario Williams was an amazing power end at NC State at 300lbs. Edwards could be that kind of player.

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by burntorangehorn on Dec 10, 2011 4:41 PM CST reply actions  

I think there may be an understatement in the second sentence of your comment…

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by UTLawGrad on Dec 10, 2011 6:20 PM CST up reply actions  

Sad to hear about D$

But it does open up #4 for Cayleb Jones.

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by Hobbes881 on Dec 10, 2011 4:42 PM CST reply actions  

Just sad

Guy with that kind of talent quitting. Same thing with Wood. It’s not like Jerry Rice and Calvin Johnson are ahead of him. Maybe it is time to look in the mirror and work enough to realize your talent. Wood could have been starting the Baylor game. I just don’t understand the utter lack of pride.

by codaxx on Dec 10, 2011 4:47 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

Wood

Worked very hard. Would have loved to see what he could have done with the chance although we have to remember that at the time he was basically the 4th strng QB. Have to think he would’ve had a shot in a game situation at UT, but at the beginning of the year, it didn’t look that way.

by TxHorns989 on Dec 10, 2011 5:20 PM CST up reply actions  

Its not pride

College football for many athletes at Texas is a 4 year tryout for a paycheck. If he can’t get that here, by all means it is in his best interest to get it elsewhere.

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by kriess on Dec 10, 2011 6:36 PM CST up reply actions  

Which is lack of pride

And commitment. I get it is greatestness in front of you, but that is not the case here.

by codaxx on Dec 11, 2011 10:39 AM CST up reply actions  

Mario Edwards

You obviously meant Florida State rather than Florida.

by larsvontrier on Dec 10, 2011 4:49 PM CST reply actions  

I was at the banquet and as always, any even run by UT, it was very classy and Mack was his normal encapsulating self. All the players that were there were very nice and enjoyed the event. The crowd definitely let Fozzy know how they felt with the standing ovation.
All the assistant coaches along with Mad Dog and Coach Wylie were there and part of the band was there too.

Met Adrian Colbert and he seemed about the same size at Kenny V. Very polite kid and had a smile on his face. Saw MB2, Tim Cole, Boyette, Camrhon, Alex Norman. I did not see any of the 3 uncommitted players so i cant comment on them. Hope they had a good time. Many of the players seemed to be enjoying themselves throughout the event. Johnny Johnson was the key note speaker and did a good job. Deloss and Powers and Mack all spoke. All 3 talked about how proud they were that the band played thanks for the memories at A&M game.

There were a lot of players there that i did not see, Darius"goodbye"White, Bible. Cayleb will be #4.

by TheContractor on Dec 10, 2011 4:52 PM CST reply actions  

Well

You saw Colbert, right? He’s one of the uncommitted players.

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by GoHornsGo90 on Dec 10, 2011 10:11 PM CST up reply actions  

yeah, met him and he was very nice and friendly. Very polite kid.
Great experience for me also.

by TheContractor on Dec 11, 2011 12:12 AM CST up reply actions  

I wouldn't be surprised to see Karam get a visit to Austin...

Mack seems hell bent on getting this team back in the national spotlight next year.

by silky51 on Dec 10, 2011 4:53 PM CST reply actions  

Mack last statement went something like this: “like i said early this year, you better get us now bc we will be back on top very soon.” Also stated that “we will win a title in the next 2-3 years.”

by TheContractor on Dec 10, 2011 4:55 PM CST reply actions  

Not sure Dayne Crist would be done deal to Kansas

The kid has only one year of eligibility left. Despite the relationship with Weiss he only has this season to make an impression. If I’m him I’d have to ask if playing for a coach I know is worth passing up a chance to step into a situation where I’ll be surrounded by championship level talent and on TV nearly ever game. Instead he’d be playing at a program that has fallen off a cliff and be no better than a one year part of a rebuilding process that will see him lose a lot of games and not get a lot of exposure.

by Nunna Yo Bizness on Dec 10, 2011 4:55 PM CST reply actions  

Does the Big12 Transfer Restriction Apply to Karam?

Being a graduate may get around the NCAA transfer restriction. However, the Big12 also requires you to lose an additional year of eligibility for a transfer within the conference. Would that not apply to him either?

by Nunna Yo Bizness on Dec 10, 2011 4:57 PM CST reply actions  

Wasn't aware of those rules.

I think Karam could still have a year of eligibility even if he has to lose one since he’s played two in three.

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by Wescott Eberts (GoBR) on Dec 10, 2011 5:00 PM CST up reply actions  

We had a reciever in 90's in that situation

I think it was Ryan Nunez who transferred from Colorado during the Mackovic years and he lost 2 year of eligibility because of it. One by NCAA rules and the other due to Big12 rule.

by Nunna Yo Bizness on Dec 10, 2011 5:04 PM CST up reply actions  

That was before the graduate transfer rule

Which came into being just a few years ago. It allows a person who has graduated from his current university to transfer to another university without sitting out a year, provided he or she is entering a graduate program that his or her current school does not offer.

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by burntorangehorn on Dec 10, 2011 5:26 PM CST up reply actions  

My take from all this is that Mack said he must have good players to win! Yeah!

And if he wants to win soon (which I think he believes he must or the consequences could be severe); he needs quality players right now not in 2013 or later. So it doesn’t suprise me Mack might go for a JUCO or a xfer QB who can suit up right away even if it is just for one year. After all, he just reached into the JUCO ranks for a couple of linemen.

My recall is not all that good, but I can’t remember Texas ever going for JUCO players…let me know if my recollection is wrong. So I think his brick by brick rebuilding plan has less to do with process and a lot more to do with getting good bricks.

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by rmaxearnest on Dec 10, 2011 5:08 PM CST reply actions  

I think the last juco was a punter or kicker a long time ago

Someone reminded me on here last time we had this discussion. It might’ve been Dan Smith, who transferred in about 2000, but I’m not positive.

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by burntorangehorn on Dec 10, 2011 5:29 PM CST up reply actions  

Brian Bradford transferred in from Trinity Valley.

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by 2Cor12:9 on Dec 10, 2011 7:41 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Looks like Alfio Randall-Veasey was also that season

According to the Statesman, ARV, Bradford, Hawkins, and Moore are the only juco recruits of the Mack Brown era.

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by burntorangehorn on Dec 11, 2011 9:25 AM CST up reply actions  

Alfio Randall-Veasey

OL commit who didn’t qualify out of HS, transfered in from Juco.

I don’t remember the last time you did it at a need position. Mackovic era, Shon Mitchell (?) other RB with Ricky Williams in 1995, he was a juco transfer

by Beergut on Dec 11, 2011 8:34 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Who's in the helmet?

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by spinmonkey on Dec 10, 2011 6:53 PM CST up reply actions  

yea its Mario. Still cool 2 see and hopefully bonds can be made this wknd to lure him to the 40 acres. LIked how all Texas Commits are on the same UA All American team along with Landon Collins..which is a long shot now. Sucks that Mario is playing on the other team.

by j64_tizzle on Dec 10, 2011 8:14 PM CST up reply actions  

Wow! I can't believe Mack admitted that they were looking at the Juco option. That's huge.

Would love to be a fly on the wall at that Sunday meeting.

Embrace the triple option.

by WreckerTex on Dec 10, 2011 7:07 PM CST reply actions  

I love how Mack

Is adapting to the changing culture of college football

by jdwall12 on Dec 10, 2011 8:55 PM CST up reply actions  

How is that a change in culture?

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by burntorangehorn on Dec 10, 2011 9:46 PM CST up reply actions  

I'm talking about everything in general

He changed the way he coached(admittedly) during the VY era, changed the coaching staff last year, “started over” this year, is playing more freshmen this year and is going out and recruiting a lot of juco kids this year. He’s doing a lot of things differently. When something doesn’t work, he throws it out. I like that he’s doing that because I feel like it won’t be long until we find the winning formula again.

by jdwall12 on Dec 11, 2011 11:17 AM CST up reply actions  

Agreed ...one of the reasons Mack is an elite coach

I will change my legal name to "I. M. Harsin" if Texas scores on a Statue of Liberty or Hook-and-Ladder vs. OU."

by Distributor of the Football on Dec 11, 2011 12:47 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Saw on twitter that a safety committed today. Any truth to this?

by H2Ohorn on Dec 10, 2011 7:28 PM CST via mobile reply actions  

Mineral Wells safety Adrian Colbert

sounds like he has committed to Texas….not 100% positive this is confirmed though.

by silky51 on Dec 10, 2011 8:26 PM CST up reply actions  

yep

Should be an official announcement tomorrow

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by Rocket94 on Dec 10, 2011 9:31 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

I am so disappointed about $D

He was amazing in highschool at Dunbar and he had a few nice plays last year for us. Why is he not getting playing time this year and what went wrong?

Some guys don’t practice as well as the play on the field on game day. I would love to see him get some chances.

Patrick McNamara….I forgot how good he was in the Spring Game, but as a non-schollie he never seemed to get a shot in games. I would have liked to see him in a game….our WRs were not good when Shipley went down, why not give a few of them a game day shot and see what happens.

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by Wrangler86 on Dec 10, 2011 7:56 PM CST reply actions  

Darius White is officially done at UT

Cayleb Jones just tweeted a picture of himself in the #4 jersey.

by jdwall12 on Dec 10, 2011 8:54 PM CST reply actions  

Yeah I noticed the same thing

I hate this whole giving of the #4 jersey away to someone who hasn’t earned it yet. Make it unavailable to freshman until they prove their worth. Kind of like a blackshirt-type thing. The mythical GoBR jersey.

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by kriess on Dec 10, 2011 9:18 PM CST up reply actions  

Michigan used to do that

With their #1 jersey that they gave to star wideouts. Not sure they still do.

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by GoHornsGo90 on Dec 10, 2011 10:17 PM CST up reply actions  

they do

theyve(the fans) have been hoping that roundtree would wear the #1 jersey after a great year this year. he obviously hasnt but they continue that tradition to this day. no1 is wearing #1

by ibleedburntorange49-9 on Dec 10, 2011 10:50 PM CST up reply actions  

Pretty freaking cool

If you ask me.

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by GoHornsGo90 on Dec 11, 2011 12:31 AM CST up reply actions  

i think it's awesome unless you have a like 5 year gap of someone not wearing it

like theyve had. i think the last to wear it played in the rose bowl against us…lol. id love to adopt something along those lines though. or something similar to the best player on a soccer team wearing #10

by ibleedburntorange49-9 on Dec 11, 2011 1:09 AM CST up reply actions  

2 hallowed jerseys that Texas could mete out:

#11: Major, Ricky, & DJ (Was really bummed when Ricky wore #34 as a senior)
#60: Tommy Nobis, et al.

by robthecob on Dec 13, 2011 12:20 AM CST up reply actions  

Sad on the Darius White note

One of the few times since forth-and-5 against USC that I got truly excited was when White picked the Texas hat off the table in announcing his college commitment during an all-star game two years back.

I was hoping his TD catch from McCoy against Tech (Kansas?) might have chased that transfer wolf from the door.

On the other side — if he couldn’t deliver, better to open a spot for somebody who can.

by edsp on Dec 11, 2011 9:30 AM CST up reply actions  

I agree

I too watched him pick Texas and was very excited to have him and Mike Davis. 2 tall WRs who could stretch the field. I think not having QBs who could throw them the ball somewhat limited our talented WRs. I hope he finds a good situation and has a good career somewhere. He’s a young man with a tremendous amount of talent. Would be sad to see it all go to waste.

by jdwall12 on Dec 11, 2011 11:10 AM CST up reply actions  

Darius WHite

Are coaches giving D. White one more chance to prove himself during the bowl workouts and the bowl game? If it still doesn’t work, he can still transfer at semester.

by UTGrad2006 on Dec 11, 2011 11:17 AM CST up reply actions  

No. 24 is in

Adrian Colbert, Mineral Wells safety has de-commited from Baylor and commited to Texas! official tomorrow am. No.24 folks! Good luck, Adrian!
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game. It was Andrew Luck’s to lose and he did.

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by ut1ou2 on Dec 10, 2011 10:22 PM CST reply actions  

Ball-in

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by GoHornsGo90 on Dec 10, 2011 10:45 PM CST up reply actions  

Visit to Brewer home by Mack and Harsin

Brewer tweeted a couple of days ago that Mack and Harsin had just visited him at his home in Arizona. Since this is a really busy time with trying to wrap up the recruiting class and prepare for the bowl game and Brewer is super solidly committed to Texas, I wondered if Mack and Harsin were discussing with Brewer the idea that Texas might recruit a QB with 2 or 3 years of college experience to facilitate Brewer red shirting in 2012.

Maybe an experienced QB is the offensive recruiting surprise that JS has been hinting about.

by Kafka on Dec 10, 2011 11:42 PM CST reply actions  

I hadn't thought about that, but it sounds plausible enough

I just saw it as a check-in, or possibly discussing a role he could play in being a sort of recruiting class leader by rallying the current commitments and encouraging guys with offers. But it could be either your idea or mine, or both.

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by burntorangehorn on Dec 11, 2011 6:06 AM CST up reply actions  

Jacob Karam's name keeps popping up in rumors....

may just be the guy that Mack, Harsin, & Applewhite are discussing in their meeting today.

by silky51 on Dec 11, 2011 8:03 AM CST up reply actions  

The coaches did in-homes

with most of the commits last week, as well as most of the remaining targets. It’s what the coaches do every year between the last game of the season and the banquet, though some of the in-home with targets happen after the holidays.

Brewer told the services that there has been a little bit of discussion about bringing in another quarterback, but the coaches haven’t indicated in either direction, as they haven’t sat down to have the discussion they will have today about where they want to go. For his part, Brewer doesn’t have a problem with it, saying that if Gilbert had stayed, it would have been the same deal.

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by Wescott Eberts (GoBR) on Dec 11, 2011 12:49 PM CST up reply actions  

Pretty interesting developments ...

Looks like Mack we very well may be “in the mix” next year. Will be very interesting indeed to see if there is any movement at QB. The Baylor game may have been a blessing in disguise in that regard.

I will change my legal name to "I. M. Harsin" if Texas scores on a Statue of Liberty or Hook-and-Ladder vs. OU."

by Distributor of the Football on Dec 11, 2011 12:36 AM CST reply actions  

Dylan Favre

he’s transfering from Miss St and will be a RS Soph next year. Plus he’s a Favre, so you know. Theres that. please note that I am joking

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by fanoflosingteams on Dec 11, 2011 1:32 AM CST reply actions  

John Madden would do commentary on LHN pro bono

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by burntorangehorn on Dec 11, 2011 6:07 AM CST up reply actions  

Karam

I like the idea of guy who graduated in 2 1/2 years.

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by Caradoc on Dec 11, 2011 7:32 AM CST reply actions  

Usually those guys are able to do so by ghosting credits or taking lots of AP/juco courses in HS

Plus summers, in some cases.

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by burntorangehorn on Dec 11, 2011 8:43 AM CST up reply actions  

Other than QB, our one problem area next year

is safety. The loss of both Gideon and Vaccaro will be huge. And, no, I don’t believe Kenny will even entertain the idea of coming back. The dude is gone. So… who does that leave us? Will we have to put Adrian Philips back there, since he’s one of the only guys with experience (I think)? Or are will really going to go with some combination of true sophomores Mykkele Thompson, Sheroid Evans, and Josh Turner? That could be rough. I hope this news about Adrian Colbert is true. We really don’t have experience back there. But even then, he’ll be a true freshman, so there’s no getting around it; we’ll be extremely young and inexperienced at safety this year. Luckily, we probably won’t be having to face Landry Jones, RG3, or Brandon Weeden. So maybe it’s good timing for us to be youthful at safety. And, who knows, maybe one of these sophomores or freshmen will emerge as superstars. Hell, Earl Thomas was only a sophomore when he made all those plays for us.

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by LookinForIt on Dec 11, 2011 8:41 AM CST reply actions  

Earl and Gideon were a redshirt-freshman and true freshman, respectively, when they earned starting jobs

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by burntorangehorn on Dec 11, 2011 8:44 AM CST up reply actions  

Yep, but Earl Thomas was a once-in-a-Blue-Moon kind of player.

I have my doubts that we’ll have a player of his caliber on our roster next year. But at least they all got a little bit of playing time this year in garbage time.

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by LookinForIt on Dec 11, 2011 10:04 AM CST up reply actions  

Safety Next Year

It will be Phillips back there next year. I think the leading candidate for the other safety spot as of now is Mykkele Thompson. I’ve heard Akina compares Thompson to Michael Huff.. Evans is also up there, he kinda resembles Huff as well (both were track guys). Evans is running track this spring, so that might hinder his development.

Huff is a rare player, but then again, look at the safeties we’ve cranked out of this program the past five years:

Michael Huff (top 10 pick)
Michael Griffin (multi-time pro bowler)
Earl Thomas (pro bowler his rookie year)
Kenny Vaccaro (???)

Our secondary has never seen this much speed at Texas before, especially if you throw Adrian Colbert in the mix (400M state champ, wants to run track as well).

Hopefully Vacarro stays next a season, takes his insurance policy, upgrades himself into a sure fire first rounder. Apparently, Aaron Williams has been advising Vacarro to stay and wished he would have stayed another year to upgrade into a first rounder.

On the bright side, If Vacarro does leave, that will allow other players develop quicker (see C. Bynum and Diggs), but hopefully he stays and helps us win a Big 12 championship!

by UTGrad2006 on Dec 11, 2011 11:37 AM CST up reply actions  

Cool pic yo

27-25: SCOREBOARD - to infinity and beyond!

by spinmonkey on Dec 11, 2011 9:04 AM CST reply actions  

Looks like Brewer just left of center in the black V

Looks like Boyette on the far left,and Hughes in the plaid and flashing th high hook’em to the right, but I’m obviously not sure. Unless it is the guy seated and wearing a black hoodie, I’m not sure I see anyone who looks big enough to be Estelle. Who’s the guy in the orange hoodie? That appears to be Alex de la Torre, but can he possibly be that small?

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by burntorangehorn on Dec 11, 2011 9:22 AM CST up reply actions  

Estelle was not there bc Pearland had a game.
The guy on the far left is Ridgeway. The black Nike hoodie next to him is Kendall Sanders. Sitting down is Super Mario and DLT. Between them is Adrian Colbert. Behind DLT is Marcus Johnson. Riser is next to big Hughes in the red and white plaid. Next to Riser is MB2. Alex Norman is right behind Connor. Bryson is in the grey Nike hoodie next to DLT and Tim Cole is far right.

by TheContractor on Dec 11, 2011 10:00 AM CST up reply actions  

Much thanks

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by burntorangehorn on Dec 11, 2011 10:22 AM CST up reply actions  

a left to right thing would have been fantastic because theres absolutely no way i could have followed that

LOL. who is the “short” dude in the beanie behind bryson and cole but in front of hughes(is hughes in the red and white plaid or is that riser…?)

by ibleedburntorange49-9 on Dec 11, 2011 11:10 AM CST up reply actions  

Is it just me or does Connor Brewer look like a cardboard cutout in this picture?

Can’t unsee.

"Hey, don't y'all think that's beautiful right there? That crystal is SO beautiful. And it's coming home to Texas." - Vince Young

by LookinForIt on Dec 11, 2011 9:59 AM CST up reply actions  

I saw all these guys on

sixth street last night. Hopefully that was enough to get the ones that are on the fence to our side!

by admiralaustin on Dec 11, 2011 10:27 AM CST up reply actions  

Big Roy

Great compilation of a lot of information, well put together. Lot of work on your part, here and always.

No offense, Peter, but GoBR may have bee our Fozzy this season.

by edsp on Dec 11, 2011 9:34 AM CST reply actions  

Guys, I think

Brewer is the guy at QB next year. I have a really good feeling about him.

by jdwall12 on Dec 11, 2011 11:19 AM CST reply actions  

Word is the coaches have every intention of redshirting him.

No way should Texas run another true freshman out there….especially since there will be a ton of pressure on Texas and the coaches next year.

by silky51 on Dec 11, 2011 11:22 AM CST up reply actions  

It doesn't really matter to me

What classification the starter is, as long as the starter is the best guy for the job. The guy who gives us the best chance to win. I think that guy is Brewer, from what I’ve seen. I don’t have a problem with Case or Ash starting, but I would be disappointed in the staff if Overstreet or Brewer is clearly better and is redshirted because they don’t want to start a young guy

by jdwall12 on Dec 11, 2011 11:45 AM CST reply actions  

Well done GOBR

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