Holiday Bowl 2011: Texas vs Cal Discussion, Part 2
In Part 1 of our discussion with the California Golden Blogs we talked about our schools and football programs more broadly. Here in Part 2 we get into this year's teams and players and the match up in the Holiday Bowl in San Diego.
PB, Burnt Orange Nation: Now that we've succeeded in getting our fan bases to hate one another, let's talk about the game, shall we? Tell us about your quarterback. How has he fared against defenses that do a good job getting pressure on the quarterback?
TwistNHook, California Golden Blogs: At Cal, there has been, at times, a lot of mediocrity. But it all stems from the quarterback position.
When we lost to USC and UCLA, QB Zach Maynard threw a combined eleveteen billion interceptions. The offense could never get going and the defense always found itself defending a really short field. That is NEVER a recipe for success.
With the improvement at the latter part of the season, Maynard cut down on the interceptions and started making smarter decisions. The gameplan for Texas is pretty simple. Harass Maynard to get him making poor decisions. This seems like it is the gameplan for every QB, but Maynard to be particularly susceptible to that in prior games.
Now, I'd like to think that that is behind him and that he'll be the game manager that we need. There is some talent around him. Keenan Allen is one of the best WRs in the nation. Marvin Jones is a talented senior. Isi Sofele and C.J. Anderson are a good compliment at RB. If Maynard can distribute the ball well, the offense can move. But that's the big question there. Can Maynard distribute the ball well?
To make sure that happens, Jeff Tedford is currently running up and down the stairs at the Philadelphia Museum Of Art. He'll be doing that and punching meat in Siberia for the next 20 days.
EYE OF THE TIGER!
But perhaps I am getting ahead of myself. What does Cal need to do to beat this Texas team?
PB, Burnt Orange Nation: On the offensive side of the ball, I think Cal really needs to keep the Texas D honest by making some plays with Maynard's legs. My co-author broke down a well-executed zone read that Cal ran against ASU, and I think it's hard to overstate how much it helps an offense to force the defense to account for the QB as a potential rusher. If Cal struggles to run the ball, Maynard's going to be in for a long evening of pressure, and I'd expect a turnover party. Keep us honest, though, and we have weaknesses (like our strong safety) that can be exploited.
On the flipside, well, basic competency should be sufficient to keep our offense in check. Without Fozzy Whittaker our offense has gone from average to awful, and any defense that can put us in 3rd and Must Pass is going to have a turnover party of its own. Our young quarterbacks have been absolutely dreadful any time they've been forced to carry the load on offense, and our running game simply hasn't been very effective the last third of the season as the injuries have piled up. We should have both Malcolm Brown and Joe Bergeron for this game, but if Cal can put this game on our young QBs, we're in big trouble.
What's the best way to pick on this Cal team?
TwistNHook, California Golden Blogs: Teams had the most success on offense against Cal when they were able to throw the ball well. Our DBs are young and our safeties have been inconsistent, at times. Look at the ASU offense, which threw up 38 on Cal. ASU QB Osweiler was able to pick on the Cal DBs and keep ASU rolling down the field:
Passing C-A-I Yds TD Long Sack
Osweiler,Brock 21-37-2 264 3 37 1
That opened up the running lanes, too:
Rushing No. Gain Loss Net TD Lg Avg
Marshall,C. 23 159 2 157 2 34 6.8
It has been my experience that the Cal rush D is superior to the Cal pass D (unless Oregon is involved). So, if Texas can't pass the ball and the Cal D can focus on the run, I think it will be more difficult for Texas to move the ball. However, if Texas is able to pass the ball well and especially pick up 3rd downs, it'll open up the running lanes. I don't think is rocket science, certainly (passing well helps running), but I think that Cal doesn't believe the Texas QBs can pass. So, they'll be looking running first.
UCLA was actually able to run well on Cal without any passing attack. They have that really weird Pistol offense and basically ran the same play over and over and over. I'd like to think that that was an aberration. Texas hopes that it isn't!
What should the Cal offense do to pick apart the Texas defense?
PB, Burnt Orange Nation: Sigh... That's not the profile Texas likes to see. We simply have no ability to make teams pay for weakness in the secondary. Same as has been true for every game since Fozzy blew out his knee, our quarterbacks are going to have to step up and provide at least average competency (without turning it over), or we'll lose barring an epic performance from the defense (see, Texas A&M game).
About that Texas defense, our starting strong safety just doesn't have any lateral range, nor the smarts/instincts to compensate for it -- Slow Later Range + Late Breaks On Ball = Disaster. So, if you see Cal trying to pick on #21 Blake Gideon, get giddy, Bears fans. That's the way to do it.
Of course, we don't make it easy on the quarterback, and RGIII's incredible success was as much about his pocket presence and incredible legs as it was picking on our safeties. Your QB has to be able to buy a little time with his feet because this Texas defense really gets tremendous pressure into the backfield.
I know it's not always the first thing people want to talk about, but I'm definitely curious about Cal's special teams. Any glaring strengths or weaknesses that could make a difference?
TwistNHook, California Golden BlogsHmm, special teams. Here is the thing about special teams. It consists of so many differing aspects that it is difficult to really have a clear determination. Let's take it one step at a time:
1. Kicking - Giorgio Tavecchio is the place kicker. He had a rough 2010 and many fans did not like him. You know how fans can be. There was a lack of faith coming into 2011. He's changed completely. Although he has had some XP problems (potentially due to poor blocking up front), he has been incredibly consistent on field goals. Amazing, really. On kick offs, he has made major strides! However, we still have some problems stopping returners at times.
2. Punting - Bryan Anger. Punting superstar! Another consistently great year. Started off a bit rough with some ill-timed rugby punting. That rugby style punting has gone by by and now he's back to his usual self. However, even with that, sometimes we still give up the big return. Cal needs to watch for that!
3. Returning kicks - A cast of characters have been returning kicks. My focus is on frosh Brendan Bigelow, who has Jahvid Best-style speed. However, I don't really think there has been an explosive return game here.
4. Returning punts - WR senior Marvin Jones has been returning punts. He is another speedster, but I don't remember a lot of amazing punt returns. The talent is there, but it just hasn't happened a lot. Woah, that is a lot!
What is Texas looking like?
PB, Burnt Orange Nation: Can a kicker with extra point problems be considered good? Maybe so, but I'm glad to hear that Cal's having trouble with blocking in its kicking game. Texas is a danger to block kicks and punts, and our offense needs all the help it can get so that's encouraging.
Our special teams are pretty simple: Justin Tucker. There, I'm done.
Seriously, that's mostly it. Tucker punts it (kinda sucks at that), kicks it off (oddly, he's good in some games, bad in others), and place kicks for us (the dude is nails, and he has range to 52 yards). Losing Fozzy Whittaker (returned 2 kickoffs back for TDs) really stung, but we've got some dynamite speed that can break big ones, both on kick offs (DJ Monroe and Marquise Goodwin) and punts (Quandre Diggs).
Alright, now that we've run through this match up pretty well now, do you feel any differently about the game? I'll be honest: I haven't watched Cal play a down of football this year, and heading into this conversation I sort of hoped to hear you describe a team with a profile that sounded pretty favorable to us. Instead, you rudely informed me that Cal is vulnerable to downfield passing. Greaaaat. We'll get right on that.
You know what, though: I like the Holiday Bowl. Texas has been a half dozen times and I've always had a terrific time in San Diego, and it's always helped raise the spirits after a pretty disappointing season. It's also been a nice launching point for us recently: we followed up our 2007 Holiday Bowl appearance with a 12-1 season, Fiesta Bowl berth, and No. 2 final ranking. And the time before that, we followed up our 2003 Holiday Bowl with, let's see, what happened in 2004...
Oh, yeah. We went 11-1 and made the Rose Bowl. Do you remember that?
TwistNHook, California Golden Blogs I should note a few other aspects. One is that our outside linebackers are not as good as our inside linebackers. ILB are 2 seniors, DJ Holt and Mychal Kendricks (Pac-12 D Player of the Year). Just to note, Cal plays a 3-4, generally, and has done so since 2008. Outside is a motley crue of talented youth. So, when it comes to running up the middle, maybe not so much. But if Texas can take advantage of some of the inconsistencies of the OLB, they might be able to make some hay.
The UCLA game consisted of UCLA QB Kevin Prince taking almost every snap out of the pistol. Then, he would fake it to the RB and run around the edge. Whenever they gave it to the RB, he got stuffed up the middle for no gain. But every frigging time Prince ran around the edge, he would get the edge and rumble for many, many yards. It was ridiculously frustrating on a variety of levels. So, that is another way in which Texas can take advantage of the Cal D. Will they be able to do so? I'd like to think not. But I never know.
That UCLA loss was truly horrific. We played UCLA the week after they got DESTROYED by Arizona and half their offense was suspended. Cal had no business losing that game. No business. Perhaps the worst loss in the Tedford era. At that point, people were talking when Tedford would leave the program.
Winning 3 out of the last 4 (even if 2 of them against really bad teams) to accomplish our pre-season predictions really turned things around. If Cal can score the win against the Longhorns, we'll see some very happy fans going into 2012. 2012 looks to be a great season as Cal returns to its ancestral lair (Memorial Stadium) and hopes to build off of the hopeful end of the season. And if we can force Mack Brown into retirement...even better!
But, I'm not gonna woof too much. This is a tough Texas team and there are no guarantees.
PB, Burnt Orange Nation: Sounds like Texas will have some opportunities to test Cal's speed on the edge with jet sweeps and reverses to DJ Monroe, Marquis Goodwin, and Jaxon Shipley. Cal fans should note, of course, that Bryan Harsin is our offensive coordinator, and he's brought his bag of trick plays from Boise State with him. I fully expect to see one of our receivers throw a pass in the game.
Alright, well, this has been fun. Any final thoughts as we wrap this thing up?
TwistNHook, California Golden Blogs GO BEARS! BEAT TEXAS! HELL YES!
PB, Burnt Orange Nation: Just remember:
Hook 'em
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Thanks, TwistNHook and PB.....
for an interesting and entertaining conversation.
Sounds like Cal is a good test for our young team. Going forward, we will have to get improved QB play as well as healthier at the offensive skill positions. We also have to get better at defending teams with offensive balance.
Looking forward to the usual entertaining Holiday Bowl.
hard to do that
shutting down balanced offenses is very hard, basically impossible. I dont think LSU or Bama could hold OSU or Baylor to under 20.
Before anyone piles on - TwistNHook is good people
But we are going to stomp Cal into a mudhole.
Proud of your offense? Manny badger don't give a shit!
I don’t know about all this talk of mudholes. First off, I sure hope there are no mudholes. Have you ever stepped into one? specially when it only one foot! They are no fun, would not wish that upon anyone, even Mack Brown. It would be classless of me. I think we were 2nd in total D in the Pac and our offense was banging on all cylinders towards the end of the season. That said, Don’t be alarmed.
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by berkeleyboy510 on Dec 19, 2011 1:46 PM CST up reply actions
I know ... that mudhole blast was harsh!! Geez, Snide, take it easy!!
But seriously … I think the “hitting on all cylinders” before a month layoff is overrated. As much as I hated the way we ended the season v. Baylor (worst defensive performance all season), I think it helps going into the bowl practices. I expect a hungry Texas team … and a mean D … to be ready for Cal in S.D.
I am wondering … what is the best defense Cal has played this season?
I will change my legal name to "I. M. Harsin" if Texas scores on a Statue of Liberty or Hook-and-Ladder vs. OU."
by Distributor of the Football on Dec 19, 2011 5:54 PM CST up reply actions
Great analysis y'all. Besides me, who is going to game?
…and, I’ll be wearing my 2005 Rose Bowl shirt that just obtained a new statement on the back of it,
“Mack Brown was right. 2004 Holiday Bowl Tech 45 CAL 31.”
Everyone hates Texas, even though every college team has a player from Texas.
by hornyaustinite on Dec 19, 2011 10:28 AM CST reply actions
Some corrections, PB
Marquise Goodwin (not Marquis), and Jaxon Shipley, not Jordan.
Love the shirt, btw.
by TexasTexasYeehaw on Dec 19, 2011 10:50 AM CST reply actions
Fixed - thanks
And glad you like the shirt. You can click on the link and it’ll take you to our newly launched store where they’re for sale.
Hook ’em
76-37-5. Now GTFO.
Awesome
Will definitely order one!
by TexasTexasYeehaw on Dec 19, 2011 11:37 AM CST up reply actions
QB
If Cal can get our QBs to throw over 15 times then they are in good shape. If the QBs throw over 20 times we are in a world of hurt.
I understand the thought, but ...
I actually think we’ll be throwing early, especially on first downs … both to get QB confidence going and to take advantage of Cal secondary. I expect us to throw north of 20 times and be okay. We’ll see.
I will change my legal name to "I. M. Harsin" if Texas scores on a Statue of Liberty or Hook-and-Ladder vs. OU."
by Distributor of the Football on Dec 19, 2011 5:56 PM CST up reply actions
Maynard made a good decision to get his degree from Berkeley instead of Buffalo
But it took him a couple of years to make it.
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by burntorangehorn on Dec 19, 2011 11:20 AM CST reply actions 2 recs
I think Harsin will have some new stuff for Cal
We will have a wildhorn.I don’t know who will run it but it could be Monroe.
I expect to see more options with Ash.
From the report from twister I see our D winning this game.So I don’t think Harsin will take what the Cal D gives him and try to win the field position battle.
by TCB Orange Dino on Dec 19, 2011 11:39 AM CST reply actions
wild horn
I do not see a reason why Bergeron or Brown can not run it. It could be a better match. You do not need to sub people in for it and power runner taking it up the middle and speed threatening the outside. They are both more than qualified and if they can make the reads it should not suffer at all. Fozzy ran like an animal in it, but you never would have guessed the inside rushing ability he showed this yr.
The difference
is that the timing changes in the Wildcat because the running back is receiving the direct snap. And since the defense knows Power is coming and only has to guess which side of the line it’s going to, that tends to open up more cutback lanes than normal, which doesn’t happen nearly as often on typical Power plays. Just because a player can excel running the normal Power play, doesn’t mean that they have the timing and vision to run the Wildcat on the same level as Whittaker.
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by Wescott Eberts (GoBR) on Dec 19, 2011 12:58 PM CST up reply actions
agree
I think Brown has solid vision. Simply pting out that the typical wildcat is a power/speed combo. Whittaker would not be the proto-type to run the play. Guessing the biggest factor he lead the Wild Wacka Wacka was his ability to make proper reads.
Vision, but also timing.
Not sure I saw the same timing from Brown and I suspect the coaches haven’t in practice either, as Texas has largely abandoned the look since Fozzy went down. I would expect it to be used more against Cal, but I’m not sure that I expect it to be as effective until J-Gray gets on campus and starts running it, because he definitely has the patience to run it as well as Fozzy.
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by Wescott Eberts (GoBR) on Dec 19, 2011 2:27 PM CST up reply actions
Still like Cojo in wildglacier
Agree that Brown hasn’t really looked good in that role, but then again he hasn’t been healthy since being asked to run it. Either way it seems to play more on the strengths of the quick slasher types like fozzy and gray. I thought Hills showed some flashes a couple of times.
by Horncasting on Dec 19, 2011 3:08 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
If we are going to make excuses for Ash being a freshman then we have to do the same for Brown
Fozzy was in his fifth year and a full grown man – Brown is still a boy.
I like the Wildhorn because we CAN pass out of it – hell,we might even find an undiscovered QB that can chunk the ball.
Proud of your offense? Manny badger don't give a shit!
Thompson?
I will change my legal name to "I. M. Harsin" if Texas scores on a Statue of Liberty or Hook-and-Ladder vs. OU."
by Distributor of the Football on Dec 19, 2011 5:56 PM CST up reply actions
Oh, I could only wish it would be Thompson
That would be awesome!
Proud of your offense? Manny badger don't give a shit!
Correction
I think Harsin will take what the Cal D gives him.
by TCB Orange Dino on Dec 19, 2011 11:40 AM CST reply actions
About Osweiler
and the Arizona State game, my take was that Osweiler just made a lot of NFL-caliber throws. The type of throws that Case McCoy can’t make and that David Ash has struggled to make with any consistency. I don’t recall seeing a lot of sraight-up coverage breakdowns that led to those completions. So, despite the youth, I thought the Cal secondary actually played fairly well in that game. Cattouse is a biscuit away from being a linebacker and might actually be an OLB for some teams in the Big 12, but other than that, there wasn’t a lot from that Arizona State can that looked ripe for exploitation.
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by Wescott Eberts (GoBR) on Dec 19, 2011 11:47 AM CST reply actions
hmm
I’m strangely confident that we will have competent QB Play. I think the 2 weeks of practice will help tremendously.
That’s just me. I hope I’m right.
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The other factor (QB is included in this) is turnovers...
if we falter like OU or Baylor games, we are in trouble.
if we keep the ball safe and force a turnover or two, we win.
Please UT offense, keep that ball. please UT D, take that ball.
Everyone hates Texas, even though every college team has a player from Texas.
bynum and diggs!
I think the game will go on their shoulders aswell. If they can lock up Cals top 2 wrs we should be able to blitz 5 to 7 people. Damn we ask a lot out of diggs he should be way better next year with this experience.
Diggs and Bynum both get asked a lot of them.
Diggs and Bynum are amazing when you really evaluate what they have done this year. Their natural ability has no comparisons in college right now and their growth over this year was spectacular. If our SS was anyone else than Gideon, those two would have been even better cause their belief in having someone have their back, cover the deep ball and a good tackler, thar would only allow them more opportunities to gamble and really blow up…
sad to see Akina go, but if he does, thank you sir for DB U….
Everyone hates Texas, even though every college team has a player from Texas.
by hornyaustinite on Dec 19, 2011 5:29 PM CST up reply actions
Based on the review (thanks PB and Twist), looks like we have a special teams advantage.
With Akina having a month to prepare, I am looking for a big return or block. Could be huge.
Perhaps we see more of Ash here with more QB runs (a la Prince)? Ash was a hair away from breaking a couple vs. Baylor. PB points out Texas’s effectiveness with Jaxon, Quise, and Monroe getting to the edge. Serious speed there. Perhaps runs to the edge will create opportunities in the middle. In other words, a way for Texas perhaps to stretch the D is outside vs inside (if the pass is ineffective). I think we will have a big rushing game vs. Cal.
Bring it …
For the Jones,
I will change my legal name to "I. M. Harsin" if Texas scores on a Statue of Liberty or Hook-and-Ladder vs. OU."
by Distributor of the Football on Dec 19, 2011 6:07 PM CST reply actions
one thing we are forgetting is we dont really know how good our rushing attack will be
for the first time since the KU game we will have B&B both healthy and ready to go. so for all we know they might roll right over the Cal Defense or they could both have great games but not quite roll over Cal or they could have good games and get us just enough to win.
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I think this game will be better than people think. It will be nice to have all our guys back healthy except fozzy. I hope he goes to the NFL and has a great career, what speed and vision he has. I wish Blane Irby would come nback, but you can’t blame him for wanting to be able to walk when he is 50. My only real complaint is that we didn’t start a guy a QB for the whole year. Spltting time does damage and doesn’t let them develop. The question is how good Conner Brewer will be? I have watched his highlight films and this kid can throw….he can also run…. who does that sound like a guy that wore #12?
Why not give Mykkle Thompson a shot?
He can run better than either Ash or McCoy and would be perfect for the Wildhorn. I have seen him pass and I wager he is no worse the the two we already have.
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