The Aggie Way of Handling Things: traveling the low road
by Wrangler86 on Dec 3, 2011 10:34 AM CST
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As if a telephone call to let you know that you are terminated isn't bad enough, Mike Sherman was kicked to the curb while he was at star QB recruit Matt Davis' house on a recruiting visit. Sherman had to tell Davis and his mother what just happened on his telephone call. Talk about AWKWARD.
Even more troubling is that Aggie Admins had already leaked the termination to the public. So, why would aggies treat a man that everyone agrees is a classy guy with lots of integrity like shit? Well, its clearly the new aggie way.
Per the article, Aggies are now saying that Sherman didn't sign his contract extension and Sherman says he did. Really? Does this whole Aggies throwing out lies for money reasons sound vaguely familiar? And, why the hell would the aggies offer Sherman a contract extension a few months ago and now terminate him? Surely, the aggies wouldn't say one thing one day and change their mind the next.
Any potential recruit and any potential HC better take a good long look at this complete and utter mess.
Gameday just ripped the aggie handling of the firing, and they even showed Texans' coach Kubiak ripping them. Kubiak is an aggie.
Stay classy aggies. I'm just glad that everyone else can see how the bow tied one (and his puppeteers) are destroying that place.
At least aggies are going to the SEC so they can embarass the SEC and not the BIG XII. Good bye, good riddance.
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No one deserves the treatment he got. Not even an Aggy.
Game Day was spot on with their assessment and blasting. Yeah,,he lead the cult but he was a class act and tried to lead by example. Sadly his example was not well received. $ Bill is next I’m guessing. Will they Tweet his termination to him? Send a singing telegram by the aggy glee club?
If a man is alone in the woods and he speaks, if no one hears him,,is he still wrong?
Ags tell me that Byrne and Sherman were both against $EC move
Toole’s funny comments that Loftin is a PUTZ and a hopelessly underqualified Puppet pretty much verifies that someone else is running the aggie ship into the iceberg. But, who is it?
I have never been so utterly and completely disgusted with aggies. What goes around comes around and they are screwed. They are disintegrating in full view and stupid aggies are cheering it on.
We're Texas, We're not OK.
I have an uncle that is a tenured professor there. He told me long ago that the academics at the school, apparently there are a few, were livid about the potential move to the sec and had, on multiple occasions, stormed the admin offices in protest. Sad, sad situation.
If a man is alone in the woods and he speaks, if no one hears him,,is he still wrong?
Something very weird is going on there
Byrne and Sherman were against the move, but some delusional mystery person is pulling the bow ties’ strings.
They have put their school into the toilet. Deloss Dodds could not destroy them like this.
Trying to screw Sherman out of the early termination fee is so pathetic and sad. They should be absolutely ashamed of themselves. Really pathetic.
I’m thinking some more bombshells will fall and they may cause a stir. If Byrne and Toole are next I hope that they don’t sign severance agreements with a confidentiality clauses so that they can reveal what the hell is going on inside that mess.
We're Texas, We're not OK.
You think the SEC is having second thoughts?
"Only angry people win football games." --DKR
I'm refusing to add 2+2 on this one because the answer scares me,,,
BUT,,,let’s look at it ,,they are on the verge of losing their Tier 1 status because they implemented a new way of reporting and accounting for finances. ( Any idea who instructed the board to implement the system?) Only one institution has ever lost their Tier 1 status up to this point. Aggy has received their letter that they will if certain things don’t change.
BowTie doesn’t have a flippin clue what is going on,,I think he was correctly labeled as a puppet.
$Bill tried ,,,Sherman tried,,,to no avail to turn the school the right direction.
Someone with MASSIVE connections and influence to the school is pulling multiple strings behind the scene. Who could that be?
If a man is alone in the woods and he speaks, if no one hears him,,is he still wrong?
Do you have a link to this OMS?
I’d like to keep it in my back pocket for when my idiot Aggie friends start blathering on about how much better they are.
Now, we must all fear evil men. But there is another kind of evil which we must fear most, and that is the indifference of good men. - The Boondock Saints
A start,,
http://www.texasmonthly.com/2011-04-01/btl.php
http://www.texastribune.org/texas-education/higher-education/aau-to-am-resist-ill-conceived-reforms/
If a man is alone in the woods and he speaks, if no one hears him,,is he still wrong?
Disconcerting
Even for us. Hope we have the power to overcome.
Now, we must all fear evil men. But there is another kind of evil which we must fear most, and that is the indifference of good men. - The Boondock Saints
Very disconcerting.
Especially for us. Certainly food for thought.
If a man is alone in the woods and he speaks, if no one hears him,,is he still wrong?
I had heard some stuff about this
That the professors at A&M were very unhappy with Perry’s plans….but I didn’t realize it includes Texas. Losing AAU status would be terrible for aggies, and I can’t imagine Texas allowing it to happen. Man, that sounds terrible.
We're Texas, We're not OK.
Information is power.
If a man is alone in the woods and he speaks, if no one hears him,,is he still wrong?
Yep
So is A&M going to be the second team to leave the Big XII and also leave the AAU?
We're Texas, We're not OK.
Have I told you recently how useless Rick Perry is?.
Well “useless” may be working its way over to “detrimental to our society” . .
by Nico Martini on Dec 6, 2011 9:22 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Don't sell comedic value short.
See ya later, alligator and sheep-mater.
by Paleface Horn on Dec 7, 2011 4:50 PM CST up reply actions
Who's pulling the strings?
Now, we must all fear evil men. But there is another kind of evil which we must fear most, and that is the indifference of good men. - The Boondock Saints
by lnghrn53 on Dec 4, 2011 11:41 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Aggies are probably trying to get $Bill to sign a severance agreement
Including a confidentiality provision that he won’t tell the truth about how the Aggies orchestrated their lies and decptions.
Ags and Mizzou are both nimwits with their pending moves. All they want is the Big XII to fail.
We're Texas, We're not OK.
Well he could sign it,,and then renege,,,it's the aggy way.
If a man is alone in the woods and he speaks, if no one hears him,,is he still wrong?
link fail,,uggh
If a man is alone in the woods and he speaks, if no one hears him,,is he still wrong?
http://maysblogs.tamu.edu/ethics/2011/12/02/youll-be-a-man/
If a man is alone in the woods and he speaks, if no one hears him,,is he still wrong?
Money quote from an aggy professor.
“I have sat in a large auditorium and watched Mike Sherman march his players in to listen to a lecture on integrity. But I can say with confidence that he was wasting his time doing so.”
If a man is alone in the woods and he speaks, if no one hears him,,is he still wrong?
It reminds me a lot of how the gutless Carl Peterson fired Gunther Cunningham from the Chiefs a decade ago
As I recall, he read about it on the internet or something like that.
"Anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that 'my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.'"
― Isaac Asimov
by burntorangehorn on Dec 3, 2011 11:18 AM CST reply actions
Curious to see if Beergut will grace this post with his presence
My guess is probably not. Nothing really to defend here. Behavior was atrocious and so unprofessional it borders on being comedic.
Cut!
No. No. No, man.
You're making me fall asleep.
To death, bro! -Ghandi
I would bet beergUT is putting on his best t-shirt and spider man pj pants
to go make the announcement to $Bill that he has been fired.
If a man is alone in the woods and he speaks, if no one hears him,,is he still wrong?
He deleted my post that said
Sherman will be remembered as the guy that was fired publically before getting a phone call while at a recruits house. And he will be remembered as the guy that A&M tried to screw out of his contract extension and early termination fee.
Aggies, well if they are remembered, I guess it will be for treating a great guy like shit.
We're Texas, We're not OK.
I'm absolutely loving his posts about who the farmers and mechanics should hire to coach them
So far Stoops, Patterson, Petersen, Leach, Tressel, Chizik, Muschamp among others are not good enough to coach them. Sumlin is?
gUT has an XBOX point a view and a 4 year old’s mental capacity.
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Pass a lot, rarely run the ball, onside kick all the time, go for it on 4th down...
outside the box.
" Answers --Become Resources."
Without Questions, There are limited Resources...
XBox POV
Instant gratification.
His arguments are…“I don’t want Coach A because he didn’t beat Team A or B.”
Example 1. “Muschamp hasn’t done anything” He was named HCIW here and left to take over one of the most succedful programs in the last two decades. He didn’t win 12 games this year, so he obviously sucks and not good enough for the farmers.
Example 2. “Patterson is a non-starter.” My guess, there are 200 college football programs across every division that the AD would stab their mom in the uterus to have Patterson. But, not good enough for the mechanics because TCU lost to Baylor and SMU this year.
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Mmkay, basically he's short-sighted
I’ve just never heard anyone use that phrasing. Instant gratification for video games makes sense, although it’s more just really sped up gratification.
Not looking at continued past success is one of Beergut’s less lovely traits.
TEXAS FIGHT
They are funny
I enjoy reading the posts because they are like a comic strip. As if half those coaches would touch the Farmer’s job. And with the way the are trying to screw Sherman any decent HC should stay away.
We're Texas, We're not OK.
nah he's still blaming the refs for A&M imploding
and making fun of Texas for losing to Baylor
In The Morning To You
Aggies want it both ways
I live in the Port Authur area, and the spots ed of the local paper, wrote after the UT/A&M game that both Sherman and the AD should be fired for losing to Texas. Later in the article he blamed the loss of the offocial’s call on the last drive. OK, Ags, “Logic 101” says if the Aggies were cheated out of the victory by the official, then it is not Sherman’s fault. Furthermore, the Ags were way ahead at the half of several games they lost. Why not replace the strength and conditioning coach and give Sherman one more chance?
"Only angry people win football games." --DKR
There are a several Aggies that I greatly respect,
and Sherman is one of them. Don’t know the guy personally, but he seems like a great guy and he definitely deserved better than this. Aggie leadership/culture is strange. Ok, that’s an understatement, but bear with me here. It just seems like A&M produces some great leaders like Sherman and Robert Gates, yet they let the yokels like Loftin and Perry run things and portray the Aggie public image.
Needless to say, their football program is a mess right now and it couldn’t come at a worse time.
BEVO IS ANGRY!
I buried the one Aggie that I truly loved and respected this summer.
He was the most intelligent and honorable young man I’ve ever had the privilege of knowing. Lost a wicked fight with cancer but never lost his sense of humor or his love of all things Aggie. We sang the Aggie War Hymn at the graveside and I was proud to do so. Aggies don’t believe they ever lose,,they just run out of time. This was so true in that situation. At any rate,,Jeff loved Sherman and thought he was the man that could turn the program around. It saddens me that he wasn’t given the opportunity to do so and that his exit was cheap and dirty and completely without honor. Possibly that is the new Spirit of Aggieland.
If a man is alone in the woods and he speaks, if no one hears him,,is he still wrong?
So sorry to hear about this. Sounds like a great guy.
"The only sport that should be cried over is tee ball."
- don't remember who said it, but I like it.
Thanks. He was.
We’ve missed you around here.
If a man is alone in the woods and he speaks, if no one hears him,,is he still wrong?
What is an Aggie?
Only two of the four people you mention above actually went to school there, so I’m not sure the university had anything to do with “producing” them or their leadership abilities. Gates and Sherman were chosen to lead there due to abilities they acquired elsewhere. It’s not ironic to me, that the two you respect are the ones who never attended A&M, yet Perry and Loftin, who appear to be working feverishly to destroy the institution at its core, did. It takes a real aggy to truly be aggy.
2011: GTFO aggy Tour
Who the hell would want to accept an offer to coach them after all this?
I think they pretty insured that they have no chance of hiring a top notch HC. Anyone out there who is HC material and sane will tell the Aggies thanks but no thanks while waiting for an offer from another school.
"The only sport that should be cried over is tee ball."
- don't remember who said it, but I like it.
Tuberville?
Tuberville. Please Lord make this happen.
" Answers --Become Resources."
Without Questions, There are limited Resources...
aggy will be aggy
sherman is better off getting out now.the aggy ship is going down and who knows when it will resurface.it is not shocking that the only people in aggyville with character are not actual aggys but people brought in from the outside.but in true aggy fashion if you do not drink the cool-aid everytime then it is time for you to go.you can take the aggy out of collieville but he is still an aggy no matter what.i`m just glad i was not born as a farm animal anywhere near that sh#t hole of a place.HOOK`EM
Sherman got screwed.
But they may have done him a favor. His players love him and everybody that speaks of him holds Sherman in very high regard. He will land on his feet, which is something that that isn’t likely to happen to the football program in College Station. If Perry is pulling the strings…Lord help them. The last thing I want is someone with a 2.2 GPA making decisions for my institution.
Perry is trying to knock them out of the AAU
But the really scary part is he is trying to take UT down with them. They are dumb enough to listen to him, we are fighting back.
We're Texas, We're not OK.
Looks like the NC got Fedora
Which I guess means Sumlin to aggy.
Fedora would have been a much better hire for Ags than Sumlin IMO. Everyone says Sumlin is a great guy and super nice, but let’s face it. Being nice is not going to win game in the $EC.
Here’s Fedora’s info: “Fedora graduated from Texas A&M Consolidated and has been an assistant coach at Baylor and Oklahoma State. He has SEC experience as well, as offensive coordinator at Florida under Ron Zook. Fedora went 33-19 in four years at Southern Mississippi. The school has qualified for a bowl game every year he’s been in charge. Read more: ”http://aol.sportingnews.com/ncaa-football/story/2011-12-06/report-larry-fedora-offered-north-carolina-job#ixzz1fozOIjzw" target="_blank">http://aol.sportingnews.com/ncaa-football/story/2011-12-06/report-larry-fedora-offered-north-carolina-job#ixzz1fozOIjzw"
So, aggies pass on a former OC from Florida who has been recruiting in the SEC territory at So. Miss. while still having ties to the state of Texas. So who wants to play bets that Fedora at NC outperforms Sumlin at A&M?
We're Texas, We're not OK.
I have been somewhat heartened by a few Aggies calling out Loftin and demanding accountability for the way Sherman was treated. Not to say anything will come of it,,but at least there are a few out there that didn’t approve of the treatment.
If a man is alone in the woods and he speaks, if no one hears him,,is he still wrong?
I actually haven't heard any Aggie defend it
And, most are very upset about their AAU status being in jeopardy per the Texas Monthly article you linked previously. It seems that the consesus over there is that Byrne has done a great job in all sports and that he doesn’t control football. Loftin seems to be calling the shots for football, but he is really the puppet of a group of boosters, who are really running the show.
If this group of mystery boosters are calling the shots and made the decision to move to the $EC over Byrne’s and Sherman’s objections, normally you would think both would have been gone for that reason alone. I’m not sure why Byrne is still hanging around but he is doing a great job in other sports.
This mystery group of rogue boosters—if they are so powerful, why aren’t they putting their money where there mouths and noses are and pay the exit fees and termination fees owed instead of making their school look like a broke ass group of farmers?
We're Texas, We're not OK.
The only thing I have been able to come up with,,their power and influence is not of the monetary type. That’s the only explanation that makes sense to me. If I let myself wander down that mental road very often I get very confused and very often terrified. So I refuse to go there.
If a man is alone in the woods and he speaks, if no one hears him,,is he still wrong?
Listened to Bomani Jones, a sportswriter in North Carolina
who used to live in Texas and is apparently a big Horns fan, say that he believed A&M is one of the worst jobs in the country much in the same way NC St. is for basketball because of who else is around and how hard it is to realistically compete with Texas, OU, and LSU.
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