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Texas Recruiting: 2011 and 2012 Narratives

Horns_bullet_medium2011 narrative complete. Recruiting momentum is a strange thing. On the surface, it seems like a nebulous concept and difficult to quantify. How about this for quantifying it: Texas hasn't landed a commitment in almost six months, since Malcolm Brown committed in the middle of August. Contrast that to 2010, when Texas received a commitment from Demarco Cobbs in October, Mike Davis in December, Darius White, Jackson Jeffcoat, and Jordan Hicks in January, and Will Russ right before Signing Day. Big difference, right?

It didn't help that late target Brandon Alexander committed to Texas A&M after looking like a strong Longhorn lean only days before and that Will Muschamp's departure left Texas in a tough position trying to recruit Jermauria Rasco. Add in the Christian Westerman de-commit, a major loss for the class with so few tackles on campus and it doesn't feel like there is a lot of momentum heading into 2012.

Of course, it's difficult to have any late momentum when so many targets commit so early. By early March when Quandre Diggs gave his verbal pledge, the Longhorns had 18 commitments, landing Westerman and Cedric Reed in April, Quincy Russell and Josh Turner in June, and finally Brown in August. At the end of February, the number was 17, a record even for a school known for landing early commitments. The Longhorns essentially had the entire class wrapped up 11 months ago. Hard to complain about that, right?

It's no surprise that there's something of a letdown when reviewing this class, especially since quite a few commits dropped in the rankings towards the end of the process. Malcolm Brown lost his fifth star at 247Sports and his position as the top running back, Marcus Hutchins dropped from his debut in the LSR's top 10 to a middle-of-the-road ranking, Leroy Scott fell, Desmond Jackson fell, Quincy Russell fell, Sedrick Flowers fell. Quandre Diggs was one of the few players who improved his stock towards the end.

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There's also a strong sense that the previous staff wasn't working hard on the recruiting trail and that the laziness was manifested in some questionable takes early solely for the purposes of building momentum with the class. The simple fact that so much of the staff departed leaves something of a sour taste because of the obvious connection between those coaches now gone and the evaluations that were made. Still beyond Taylor Doyle and possibly Chet Moss, who ended up being a valuable member of the class because of his work holding it together, it's hard to pinpoint guys who indisputably shouldn't have gotten offers in favor of someone else.

Horns_bullet_mediumNailing the major needs, almost. Looking back at the needs for the class, the two positions that stand out the most are the offensive line and running back, with defensive back coming in third. As important as the running back position was to the 2011 class, particularly landing one of the top backs, the most important group to the entire class was clearly the offensive line.

After the commitment of Christian Westerman, it looked like the Longhorns had essentially landed all of their top targets  at the position. Sure, getting a commitment from Matt Hegarty would have been fantastic, especially in perspective, but after only planning on taking five offensive line commitments and landing five by the end of the second Junior Day, taking Hegarty just wasn't possible, as even Westerman represented an extra offer beyond what the coaches intended when the process started.

Unfortunately for Texas, Auburn and OL coach Jeff Grimes spent 8-10 months building a relationship with Westerman and in the end, the uncertainty created after the retirement of Mac McWhorter led to Westerman's de-commitment and the Longhorns publicly whiffing on Le'Raven Clark and Spencer Drango late in the process.

It's the success at the running back position that staved off a full-blown meltdown by the fanbase. Running back is a high-profile position and Texas missed on Lache Seastrunk in 2010 (for good reasons), had the failed evaluation with Chris Whaley and missed on Christine Michael, and got virtually nothing from the 2008 class that featured LaMichael James and Jacquizz Rodgers. That's three years of pretty poor recruiting. Take it back to 2005, even, the year Texas got a commitment from Jamaal Charles.

In a nutshell, the class was crucial not only for the future of the position on the field, but also for perception, particularly the perception of Major Applewhite as a coach/recruiter. Four star backs in a class is a major grouping of talent and Texas absolutely had to land one, but couldn't afford to go after all four. Texas chose Malcolm Brown and got him. That's a major win there, even if there are those out there who prefer Brandon Williams. Not that I would know anything that.

Add in landing the top four targets at defensive back (including Mykkele Thompson, more of an athlete now) and the class was a resounding success, even though it did fall behind Florida State after Westerman's de-commitment. After all, landing the top players targeted is more important than any rankings. And Texas did that.

Horns_bullet_mediumJust maintain. So yeah, it was painful that Christian Westerman de-committed. Really painful, in fact, given his immense talent. However, at the end of the day, it's remarkable that Texas only lost one commitment after replacing six of nine assistant coaches, especially coaches as well-liked as Will Muschamp and Duane Akina. Mack Brown certainly sounded like a proud father when talking about it:

I was very proud of the recruits. For all those recruits to hang in there with you all [the media] calling them and opposing coaches calling them and talking about all the negatives of staff change - they’ve hung in there for Texas, and I thought that was great. I thought they trusted my staff and I to hire the right guys and most of those guys didn’t even waiver, and I’m really, really proud of that fact.

The resiliency of the class speaks to the effort of commits like Chet Moss and the efforts of coaches like Major Applewhite and Oscar Giles who hit the road to ensure that the class stayed together, as well as Marcus Tubbs and Ken Rucker, who took to the road themselves.

Don't believe me? Take it from Mack himself:

The recruiting’s been fun. It’s been amazing to me that the class pretty much stayed together and our guys stayed on campus, and after they went home they’ve come back and worked hard to help us recruit. Everybody worked hard to make it fit. Major Applewhite, Bruce Chambers and Oscar Giles worked so hard. And then we put [Coordinator, High School Relations] Ken Rucker and [Special Assistant for Player Relations] Marcus Tubbs on the road for a little while. All those guys worked hard to make sure all the recruits stood strong with Texas, and that’s something that has happened and something that I’m really excited about.

The ability to retain so many commits speaks to something else as well -- the devotion of the players to Mack Brown and to the university. Their commitment was to more than their coordinator or, in a lot of cases, the position coach, it was to the school and to Mack Brown and their belief that the Texas head coach can turn things around.

Horns_bullet_mediumThe choices. Like any class, the Longhorns had some difficult decisions to make about the recruits the staff pursued and those who did not receive offers. Here's a look at some of the choices and how they played out:

 

  • MJ McFarland versus Jace Amaro:  McFarland uses his body extremely well due to his basketball background and has excellent hands, but Amaro has more experience as an in-line blocker and  might be more athletic and college-ready than McFarland. Verdict: It's hard to complain about landing McFarland. On the other hand, Amaro has a big-time frame and the question is, did Texas even really evaluate him or did they just completely miss?
  • Christian Westerman versus Matt Hegarty:  Westerman is the more highly-rated recruit and was the preference for many when he made his decision. Hegarty is excellent in pass protection and might be a better left tackle prospect than Westerman. Verdict: Texas got the better player and couldn't predict the de-commitment from Westerman. The coaches did the best job they could and if Westerman had stuck with his commitment, this wouldn't even be a discussion.
  • Miles Onyegbule versus Trey Metoyer: Metoyer is clearly the better athlete and a better player. There were several issues with Metoyer and Texas: 1) he wasn't really a Texas fan and it would have been a difficult recruitment, and 2) he was ineligible at the time of JD1 for basketball and is still struggling to qualify even after signing his LOI to Oklahoma. Verdict: The Longhorns made the easy decision by going with Onyegbule and not taking a chance on Metoyer. Tough to blame Texas on this way, too, as good a college player as Metoyer could become.
  • Malcolm Brown versus Brandon Williams: Here's the question: Did Texas avoid Williams just because he has two kids? Seems like a dumb reason not to take such a massive talent and as a high school coach pointed out to me, wouldn't that make him work harder to get to the NFL? There were some rumors that Applewhite really wanted Williams (smart guy) and the rest of the coaching staff just wasn't on board. Verdict: The preference here is and has been Williams because of his speed and feet, but Malcolm Brown is hardly a consolation prize. Viva Malcolm Brown!
  • Josh Turner versus David Jenkins: Turner is a fantastic athlete and should transition well to cornerback despite some doubters out there (WTF, doubters?). Jenkins has the advantage with a bigger frame, while Turner has the advantage in speed. Verdict: Turner, no question about it, especially since Jenkins is a Louisiana native and would have been really hard to pull away from the Tigers, even if Texas had room for him.
  • David Ash versus JW Walsh: Ever since seeing Walsh's sophomore highlights, the preference here was for Walsh. However, after seeing both Walsh and Ash live, the Longhorn commit looks like he has better physical tools as a passer and doesn't give up as much athleticism to Walsh as some people might think. Verdict: Walsh wanted a better opportunity to start early and took it. Texas preferred Ash, anyway. Worked out well.
  • Quincy Russell versus Marquis Anderson: This one's easy. Yes, Russell is raw. The thing with Anderson is that he didn't flash in a couple viewings as a senior and doesn't have the same ideal DT body type as Russell and loses out in athleticism, too. Verdict: Absolutely the right move by the Longhorns to make Russell the top target. No question about it.
  • Kendall Thompson versus Trevon Randle: Thompson is a proven playmaker who is both physical and experienced in coverage, a difficult combination to find in college. Undersized and fast, Randle can play sideline to sideline, though he faces questions about his ability to defeat blockers at the college level. Verdict: Wasn't a fan of Randle based on his film. Big fan of Thompson based on his film. Kudos again to the Texas staff for their evaluation.

Horns_bullet_medium2012 narrative: changes afoot? Over at Recruitocosm, the Jesus put in perspective why the practice of early offers can come back to hurt programs, in this case Texas one of the pioneers of the practice:

But as with many things written down on paper, real life has a way of throwing variables at you that can’t be predicted. First being the the high beta of physical growth a 15-17 year old will experience. One kid might not gain a pound while another might stack on 60. There’s no way that an evaluation done immediately after a kid’s junior year will be as good a barometer for success as an evaluation done after seeing him in camps or even during his senior year (gasp!) when you have a much better idea of what kind of physique he’ll carry into high school. It’s why going one and done with Chris Whaley as our lone RB was such an inept recruiting failure. The kid wasn’t getting any smaller and had about an 85% chance of ultimately outgrowing the position, while more talented backs that played against elite competition never got as much as a phone call.

It's a growing consensus from Longhorn fans that the whole process may need to be revamped slightly to give the coaches more time to evaluate players. In particular, the spring provides not only the combine season, but also the spring evaluation period, giving coaches the opportunity to watch prospects practice.

Most years, Texas coaches don't have many kids to evaluate in the spring and few offers go out after the second Junior Day in February. In fact, in 2011 the only offers that went out after JD2 were Quandre Diggs (March), David Jenkins (June), Austin Seferian-Jenkins (July), and Brandon Alexander (December).

Here's how Mack Brown responded on Monday to a question about whether Texas will slow down the process to allow all the new assistant coaches more time to complete evaluations:

It may not because we have no choice. The coaches are killing themselves right now with video and transcripts and they tried to do as much as they could the last couple of weeks to see guys. See them workout in basketball or something if there was a basketball game, but we’re going to have to do a lot of it on video because they will not have seen them play and obviously they weren’t practicing when they got here. We may have a bigger group come in for the second junior day which will be the 26th of February, which will be a practice, then the first [junior day]. We’re still looking at guys in the first one.

On one hand, it shouldn't be a problem to offer the top players at JD1 because the top players in the state were already evaluated by the last staff and it's pretty clear at this point who the top players are at each position. However, the Longhorns will take at least one cornerback in the class and the only true cornerback prospect right now is Athens athlete Kendall Sanders, who plays both ways for his school, but has much more experience on the offensive side of the ball.

Looking back at 2010, several of the top defensive backs at the end of the process -- Charles Jackson, Tevin Mitchel, and David Jenkins, weren't on the radar during spring. As much as Mack Brown wants to go full speed ahead, it may be wise to save several spots for players that emerge during the spring and summer.

There's also a perception that some Longhorn coaches got lazy with their evaluations. The good news is that the new staff has already been working tirelessly out on the road to perform the necessary 2012 evaluations and the collective youth of the group bodes well for coaches hitting the road hard and uncovering talent that might have gone overlooked in past years.

If anything changes, Texas might choose to only offer the top targets at the first Junior Day. The problem with changing the process it that Mack Brown likes to offer players in person, which is only possible during the Junior Days or during unofficial visits throughout the spring. For instance, colleges aren't allowed to offer prospects at summer camps, which eliminates the Longhorns from going that avenue. Brown feels that in-person offers have a greater impact on recruits and based on the results, that seems to be the case and it makes sense to keep that part of the process the same.

And as much as it helps recruiting momentum, taking commitments from questionable takes to get kids into the fold early doesn't make sense with all the criticisms about Texas coaches not working hard on evaluations. Will Mack Brown sacrifice some momentum to make sure that the Longhorns only target the absolute best players in the class? Will the coaching changes impact how many top players make early decisions? All major questions in the 2012 narrative that will have some answers by the end of February.

Horns_bullet_mediumThe importance of Brenham. The commitment of Brandon Alexander to Texas A&M on Tuesday may have repercussions past this season. As if that wasn't enough for the Aggies on Tuesday, the Shermalounger also received commitments from two more Brenham stars, this time from the 2012 class with the decisions from ATH Troy Green and OL Adrian Bellard. While neither was expected to be heavily pursued by the Longhorns, DT Malcolm Brown will be the top target at his position and LB Tim Cole could get a serious look as well. There have been recent rumors about all four heading to A&M, which is just up the road from Brenham, though all four obviously won't commit at the same time.

According to Bellard, it may just be a matter of time before all four 2012 prospects commit to A&M ($):

I think Tim Cole is getting near committing; he's been talking like that. And Malcom, that's all he talks about: A&M, A&M, A&M.

So even though Recruitocosm tweeted on Wednesday morning that Bo Davis has been working hard to convince Brown to give Texas a chance -- he should attend JD1, as will Cole -- it looks like the Longhorns do have ground to make up with Brown unless Bellard isn't completely accurate in his statement, which seems unlikely considering the four teammates are extremely close by all reports.

From the long-term perspective, Brenham is an important pipeline school, having sent players like Limas Sweed, Ryan Roberson, Ahmard Howard, and Luke Poehlmann to Texas. If the Aggies can continue to make progress with the program, it could be a major boon their recruiting efforts. Stay tuned.

Horns_bullet_mediumProgramming notes. With JD1 coming up, the Big Boards for each position will debut leading up to the event, complete with all the expected analysis and lists of the confirmed invites to the Junior Days. For a primer, check out the Wish-y/Watch lists that took an early look at each position and the 2012 Top 10, which will receive an update soon:

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I'll read this over lunch. Thanks Ghost!

"Football's so important in Texas. On the West Coast, it's a social. On the East Coast, it's a culture. Here, it's a religion."
-- Major Applewhite

by Sunkist on Feb 2, 2011 11:11 AM CST reply actions  

Christian Westerman vs Matt Hegarty

False choice.

How about Hegarty vs Doyle?

by CMDR on Feb 2, 2011 11:13 AM CST reply actions  

Great evaluation as always

I think this class rocks. The fact that they stayed together through the storm is going to reap strong rewards since they already have each others’ backs.

My money is that we slow play offers a little bit on the first junior day since our new coaches simply need time to digest everything and everybody. However, that is not necessarily a bad thing.

Also, I’m not so worried about these Brenham kids. We will be just fine without them. These SEC coaches we brought in probably had some juniors and sophomores they were courting and so it may be an interesting recruiting year.

by Wrangler86 on Feb 2, 2011 11:25 AM CST reply actions  

Spot on, Wrangler.

The thing I’m happiest about is that we had almost no waivering. After seeing last year’s lack of heart I want players who believe the colors mean something. The fact that we completely overhauled the staff and kept these kids tells me that they bleed burnt orange and will go to war for this program. I like that.

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by lnghrn53 on Feb 2, 2011 11:31 AM CST up reply actions  

Brenham also gave us the great Brandon Collins.

Pipelines into school’s are over-rated. They’re only as good as the previous class. My point being that the kids from 2012 might all go to A&M but I wouldn’t see that hurting our recruiting Brenham in ’13 and ’14 and so on.

Sports is man's joke on God, You see, God says to man, 'I've created a universe where it seems like everything matters, where you'll have to grapple with life and death and in the end you'll die anyway, and it won't really matter.' So man says to God, 'Oh, yeah? Within your universe we're going to create a sub-universe called sports, one that absolutely doesn't matter, and we'll follow everything that happens in it as if it were life and death.'" - Sam Kellerman

by 2Cor12:9 on Feb 2, 2011 11:45 AM CST reply actions  

Forgot about Collins for a second.

Thanks for the reminder.

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by Wescott Eberts (GoBR) on Feb 2, 2011 11:59 AM CST up reply actions  

Pipelines aren't overrated. Ask any recruiting coach. Connections matter on all sorts of levels including how high school coaches view particular college programs.

This is one reason Baylor is poking its head up. Their coach knows Texas HS football

"Is you is or is you ain't my constituency?"

by longboard8 on Feb 2, 2011 12:55 PM CST up reply actions  

and Texas H S coaches like the Baylor coach

"Is you is or is you ain't my constituency?"

by longboard8 on Feb 2, 2011 12:55 PM CST up reply actions  

Not all High School Coaches like Art Briles

More than a few find him arrogant and someone who will say anything.

It should have been Jenkins versus Scott. Sorry but dominating the Pasadena league just doesn’t do much for me.

interesting on the Brenham kids to date. Limas was a very good player, Collins was starting to make and impact before he got thrown off the squad, Luke is undersized, and Howard and Roberson really haven’t found positions.

Goodson had one with another one the way at A&M, was a shithead, and is only in the NFL because of raw ability and not his work ethic.

by davey o'brien on Feb 3, 2011 7:53 AM CST up reply actions  

Pipelines are not overrated

If you go into school, create a good relationship with the coaches, take kids and grow them to upstanding men, so much good comes out of it. Those coaches may give you the heads up about a player that may fly under the radar. They give you easier access to videos and insight to what the kids may value personally like family, education, proximity to home. You put these kids in the league and they bring recognition and put money back into their hometowns.

"I live in the tower with Coach Brown." -Bevo

by run Bevo run on Feb 2, 2011 12:59 PM CST up reply actions  

I'm speaking in terms of players only.

These kids now days don’t care so much who in the past decade has come to Texas from their school. They see that they have a few friends heading to a certain school and so they might decide to join them. Go look at our roster and then OU’s and you will see we both have kids from the same high school but different classes.

Sports is man's joke on God, You see, God says to man, 'I've created a universe where it seems like everything matters, where you'll have to grapple with life and death and in the end you'll die anyway, and it won't really matter.' So man says to God, 'Oh, yeah? Within your universe we're going to create a sub-universe called sports, one that absolutely doesn't matter, and we'll follow everything that happens in it as if it were life and death.'" - Sam Kellerman

by 2Cor12:9 on Feb 2, 2011 1:11 PM CST up reply actions  

You are taking a huge process with tons of variables and eliminating all possibilites save one

Maybe your just kidding around? You couldn’t honestly be basing a year to year relationship on one season’s roster.

"I live in the tower with Coach Brown." -Bevo

by run Bevo run on Feb 2, 2011 1:18 PM CST up reply actions  

I'd be more worried about pipelines to DeSoto and Skyline

than Brenham. Sweed was great his senior year. But grabbing any player just because you want to maintain a perceived pipeline is irresponsible. You end up with guys like Doyle , Poehlman and Buchanan on the OL. Any of these could prove me wrong, just saying…

We have a 12th man and he's Bryan Harsin

by SpiritOfTheFedora on Feb 2, 2011 5:00 PM CST up reply actions  

Thanks GOBR, good write up I like how you did the choices portion

It was the right call taking Turner over Jenkins, but it would have been nice to add both. I think Thompson is key in this class. Can he play corner? Akina seemed to think so.

Hegarty’s entire family are Notre Dame honks. The notion that Texas definitely gets Hegarty if they don’t offer Westerman is simplistic. Texas would have battled Notre Dame until the end for Hegarty. Westerman was more likely to commit, so the coaches went with Ole Diamond Studs.

I won’t delve into MB1 v Brandon Williams, but I think Texas made the right choice.

Some dumb a** on Bleacher Report has some article on why Texas passed on Trey Metoyer. It looks like a smart choice now. Metoyer might never enroll at Okie. It turns out some one in the Texas Program can read a transcript, not Brian Davis though.

McFarland is a big Texas fan, Texas wanted 1 TE for 2012. Amaro not a Texas lean, already landed McFarland, thusly ending Texas’ interest. Texas has 3 spots open from this class. I think if Texas could do it over again they maybe offer Amaro and Nathan Hughes.

JW Walsh was all about immediate playing time. I don’t think this was a battle Texas was ever in. Ash is the next best in state.

Quincy’s upside far exceeds anything Anderson has to offer.

Kendall Thompson over Randle was a no brainer. Randle might not hold up to the SEC power running beating.

On to 2012 :

I’m hearing 10 commitments from the Junior Days and this works for me. That leaves roughly 12-13 spots for the coaches’ to further evaluate.

Don’t wait until after a recruit’s senior season to offer though (see Alexander, Brandon) do your evals, watch some senior film. Offer them while still in district play Texas coaches.

Brenham is a tough situation. Many of the city’s big cigars are Ag grads. My understanding is that an Aggy family owns the local paper and radio stations. Coach West is also an Aggy grad, but a has a good relationship with Mack.

The Texas – Brenham pipeline is at critical mass. Alexander and the two 2012 kids hurts. Aggy is going all out on 2012, and throwing a lot of resources at Brenham. Texas needs an early commit from Cole to possibly turn the tide. Bo Davis is a very good recruiter, but there is a lot of MB2 to Aggy smoke.

MB2 doesn’t have a sketchy guardian though, so I’ll consider MB2 and open recruit with an Aggy lean at this moment.

Mack is the best recruiter currently in college football. He realizes how important Brenham is and I don’t think Cole and MB2 to Aggy is a done deal. I will say its tough to convince a kid to change his mind once he verbals. Texas needs to get on Cole and Brown hard right now.

There are studs in 2013 and 2014 classes, so if Mack must maintain a strong relationship with the Brenham coaches.

I think Texas might have to adjust their recruiting in 2012 due to Aggy going all out on Brenham. Mack, gulp, might have to go out state to replace the upper level talents that are Cole and MB2. I have no idea where that takes Texas, but Manny and Bo Davis just left SEC country. I’m certain they were recruiting stud 2012 DTs and LBs in the Deep South as of a few months ago.

If anything the early commits of Brenham kids helps Texas’ thought process. They’ll know in February or the Spring that they might have to look elsewhere in 2012.

I’d also add that Texas is said to have Texas leans in Boyette and Hill at Humble High. Humble High is an alleged Aggy pipeline school. They want to go into our pipeline we can easily go into their pipeline. Don’t make Mack angry Aggy, you wouldn’t like Mack when he’s angry.

Hook ’em.

by billfromlaketravis on Feb 2, 2011 11:59 AM CST reply actions  

Thanks for the thoughts, Bill

Agree on Hegarty and your other points. Would be nice to get into Humble and I have head as well that Boyette could be an early commit. Would be a solid start to the class. Don’t know as much about Hill. Will try to find some video on him.

As an aside, saw the video of Tyler DE Eric Davis the other day and was really impressed. Great burst off the edge and a rangy frame. Looked Texas good and would be a JD1 invite, offer, in my opinion.

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by Wescott Eberts (GoBR) on Feb 2, 2011 12:03 PM CST up reply actions  

Humble, Kingwood, Atascocita

Are all growing fast and we should be watching them. I have never thought of Humble as being an Aggie pipeline or Texas pipeline. While College Station may be a bit closer for the kids in the north part of Houston, most kids in that area will have plenty of school friends going to either school. I don’t think either school has any real advantage from a school tradition or anything like that.

by Wrangler86 on Feb 2, 2011 12:16 PM CST up reply actions  

Just watched film on Hill

At 6-5, 200 pounds, he moves pretty well, not great burst off the ball. Would like to know about his diet, workout habits, but it seems questionable to me that he can put on 50 pounds and maintain his speed. Skinny-looking frame, can he even add that much weight? Looks like a project.

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by Wescott Eberts (GoBR) on Feb 2, 2011 12:17 PM CST up reply actions  

The Humble area

Has never been a very good recruiting base because quite frankly, there have been very few good athletes. Kingwood had a run of some great BB players, but I don’t remember any elite football players.

by Wrangler86 on Feb 2, 2011 2:54 PM CST up reply actions  

David Boston and Bert Berry

Jerod Johnson and Jason Jack were also dominant high school players.

Going further back, the great Aggie DB and return man Aaron Glen grew up in the Humble area, although he didn’t go to high school at Humble High.

by Horncasting on Feb 3, 2011 8:18 AM CST up reply actions  

Thanks GOBR, you have been on Eric Davis very early

Seems like an excellent recruit with upside. I agree Davis could be top 20 by his senior season.

Yep I had heard Boyette could commit at the Junior Day. It’s probably Boyette and McGee for the #2 2012 DT spot in state.

Hill has a lot of potential. My understanding he is a terror off the edge at 200 pounds with a big 6’5’’ ish frame that could add good weight. Hill is probably a little more raw than what Texas usually takes. It wouldn’t surprise me if they slow play Hill and evaluate him after the summer to see where his weight is.

I think Davis , Hill with good weight are takes for 2012.

 Edwards will have an open offer to Texas, but I heard Edwards is FSU all the way which is unfortunate. I think a visit from Edwards would be a start.

by billfromlaketravis on Feb 2, 2011 12:23 PM CST up reply actions  

Edwards reportedly isn't taking any JDay visits.

Will visit Florida State in March. To say it’s not looking good is an understatement there.

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by Wescott Eberts (GoBR) on Feb 2, 2011 12:28 PM CST up reply actions  

Not sure.

Don’t think assignments have been given yet. Working through this, Chambers and Wyatt should have Dallas. Harsin will probably have Austin. Gray could take over SA from Akina and Searels East Texas from McWhorter. Applewhite in Houston with Davis. Not sure if Brenham is considered Houston, Austin, or East Texas. Best guess, then, if things generally stay the same with the same position coaches taking over the same area, it could be Searels, Harsin, Davis or Applewhite. Know that doesn’t narrow things down too much. I think Giles might have Houston area, too, so it could be him. I guess I only eliminated Gray, really.

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by Wescott Eberts (GoBR) on Feb 2, 2011 12:11 PM CST up reply actions  

ESPN’s take on the Texas class

Still a Blaine Irby fan

by patienthornsfan on Feb 2, 2011 12:07 PM CST reply actions  

Urban Meyer, of all people, weighing in on football in the Lone Star State.

Still a Blaine Irby fan

by patienthornsfan on Feb 2, 2011 12:11 PM CST up reply actions  

Brenham

Did they win state? I would hope so with all that talent.

by Longhorns84 on Feb 2, 2011 12:10 PM CST reply actions  

Lost in Bi-district round in an upset.

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by Wescott Eberts (GoBR) on Feb 2, 2011 12:16 PM CST up reply actions  

wow..how?

Did they just have a bad offense? I count 5 D1 players on their team that I know of (similar to Denton Ryan).

by Longhorns84 on Feb 2, 2011 1:25 PM CST up reply actions  

Alexander

I agree and he probably saw the chance for early playing time. We have out recruited them by far, but we better prove it on the field.

by Wrangler86 on Feb 2, 2011 12:17 PM CST up reply actions  

Alexander

would actually have a good chance to play early at UT.. I think the talent at UT with creative young coaches will be a great mix.

by Longhorns84 on Feb 2, 2011 1:22 PM CST up reply actions  

Wonder about Westerman's decision

Auburn signed a tough OL class with the #1 OT Cyrus Kouandjio. I’m sure Westerman figures that he is good enough to play anywhere, but he is actually looking at some competition. Disappointed we didn’t keep him, but pretty amazing that he was the sole defector. That really says a lot about this class.

by Wrangler86 on Feb 2, 2011 12:34 PM CST reply actions  

USC is up to 28 commits

They sure aren’t about to let the NCAA get in their way.

by Wrangler86 on Feb 2, 2011 12:38 PM CST reply actions  

Any chance we will get a surprise commit?

I’m not holding my breath on Rasco, but a lot of the predictions have been wrong so far per the pay sites.

Scout.com keeps crashing. I don’t know if it is the weather or too busy.

by Wrangler86 on Feb 2, 2011 12:46 PM CST reply actions  

Yep there are rolling black outs lasting 10 to 45 minutes, rotating by neighborhood

Is Rasco going to announce on ESPN U? I didn’t see it on the announcement special. A lot of predictions have been wrong today. We don’t know exactly what happened during Mack and the entire defensive staffs’ in home visit with Rasco. I’m not optimistic though. Something would have come out about Rasco possibly leaning towards Texas.

Texas should try to make in roads in Louisiana, at least in the Shreveport area.

by billfromlaketravis on Feb 2, 2011 1:13 PM CST up reply actions  

Not sure what has been going on around the country

But, apparently there has been some big changes. ESPN has dropped us to number 5.

Behind FSU, Auburn, Bama, and USC now.

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by lnghrn53 on Feb 2, 2011 12:56 PM CST reply actions  

Good for him

I think all kids should get their schollies if promised. But, I also thought the scholarship offers were in writing, not just verbal from the school. The kids are verbal until NSD, but they should have the written offer in their hand. I wonder why he never had a written offer.

by Wrangler86 on Feb 2, 2011 3:00 PM CST up reply actions  

"Hard to complain about that, right?"

GoBR, Incredible analysis, as usual. While you don’t direclty question Mack’s increasing preference to get early commitment, even if it means promising not to recruit another player at certain positions, you do rightly IMO point out the downside: (1) There is no late momemtum and excitement, (2) players we take may not perform as well as expected their senior years, (3) we may not be able to sign a “late-bloomer” either because we don’t have a scholarship to give or because Mack has made a promise to an earlier commitment, and (4) an early commitment has a long time to re-consider his decision and change his mind at the last minute, while we are locked in to what we promise. Do you think we have gone too far toward trying to get early commitments, or does what we gain outweigh the potential problems?

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by OBdoc on Feb 2, 2011 1:16 PM CST reply actions  

No word yet.

Be strange if he wasn’t.

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by Wescott Eberts (GoBR) on Feb 2, 2011 2:01 PM CST up reply actions  

easy +1

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by run Bevo run on Feb 2, 2011 1:36 PM CST up reply actions  

For some reason I thought Bergeron was bigger than that

Got me thinkin (as I saw Wrangler86 mentioned below) he could definitely be a game changer too

I wish I could play little league now... I'd kick some fuckin' ass.

by drbadass on Feb 2, 2011 2:58 PM CST up reply actions  

He's 6-1, maybe a hair under.

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by Wescott Eberts (GoBR) on Feb 2, 2011 6:04 PM CST up reply actions  

All I can say is GoBR

You better get outta his way. Heisman baby.

by Wrangler86 on Feb 2, 2011 1:48 PM CST up reply actions  

Why do we sell merchandise

In Okie Light orange? That hat kinda bothers me.

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by lnghrn53 on Feb 2, 2011 3:56 PM CST up reply actions  

Could be the lighting, picture quality.

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by Wescott Eberts (GoBR) on Feb 2, 2011 6:05 PM CST up reply actions  

You're probably right

I looked up the hat on the internet. The color of the orange seemed to be of the burnt variety. I guess I shouldn’t be complaining about the color considering I just ordered this gem though.

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by lnghrn53 on Feb 3, 2011 12:28 AM CST up reply actions  

That's how we roll

Love that pic!!
Bergeron may be a super suprise stud. Brown is getting all the hype, but Bergeron is no slouch at all.

by Wrangler86 on Feb 2, 2011 1:47 PM CST reply actions  

Love the shirt and tie.

What we have here is a failure to execute.

by dimecoverage on Feb 2, 2011 2:23 PM CST up reply actions  

Would rather direct this to the open thread, please.

But thanks.

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by Wescott Eberts (GoBR) on Feb 2, 2011 2:04 PM CST up reply actions  

Sorry about that. To many tabs open at once.

by NeTexHorn on Feb 2, 2011 2:07 PM CST up reply actions  

No problem.

Not sure anyone is even other in there. Just trying to keep things tidy.

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by Wescott Eberts (GoBR) on Feb 2, 2011 2:08 PM CST up reply actions  

I assume everyone knows, but just in case…Mack Brown Presser at 3PM. There is a fanpost with the link if you need it.

What we have here is a failure to execute.

by dimecoverage on Feb 2, 2011 2:25 PM CST reply actions  

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