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Texas Basketball: Struggles Continue as Kansas State Ruins Senior Night

For what has to be like the 614th consecutive time, the Kansas State Wildcats defeated the Texas Longhorns in a Big 12 athletic event. Tonight's loss came on senior night for Dogus Balbay, Matt Hill, Jai Lucas, and Gary Johnson. The 75-70 defeat was the Longhorns third loss in their last four games and delivers a clear path to the Big 12 title for the Kansas Jayhawks. KU is two wins away from an outright conference title that seemed improbable just two short weeks ago.

For the Longhorns, the loss moves them to 12-3 in the conference with a trip to Baylor still to come. It is hard to characterize Saturday night's regular season finale as a "must win" given all that this team has already accomplished. However, it certainly feels like a must win.

Before we move onto the next game, a few very quick notes about this one. Other than Tristan Thompson, the Longhorns were not good at all. They shot the ball horribly from the floor (33%), were carved up defensively (50% on the game), especially in the second half (58% after halftime), and got absolutely nothing from their guards.

Jordan Hamilton, who is really struggling with his shot, was 5-for-18. Cory Joseph was just as off, going 2-for-12. J'Covan Brown did sink a few late three-pointers but was still only 2-for-10 on the night.

At the forward spot, Gary Johnson, was equally ineffective. Gary went for 6 points on 2-for-8 shooting over 33 minutes.

The long bright spot was Tristan Thompson, who was simply outstanding in the first half. TT scored 26 points on 9-of-14 from the floor and a respectable 8-for-13 from the free throw line while also grabbing 10 boards. As good as Thompson was, only eight of his points came in the second half when Kansas State made their run.

While the shooting was atrocious, this loss, like the Colorado one, can be more squarely blamed on the defensive end. Jacob Pullen and Rodney McGruder had their way with the Longhorns scoring 20 and 22 respectively. Texas repeatedly suffered defensive breakdowns which led to wide open threes for McGruder or driving lanes for Pullen. If Texas is to find their mojo, it has to start on the defensive end.

Last, give Kansas State and Fank Martin credit tonight. I thought Martin managed the game really well. He used his timeouts effectively when Texas inched closer and strategically subbed Pullen out for a quick breather a few times. K State defended like crazy and took away Texas back cuts and even simple passes to the wings. Their ball denial seemed to confuse and frustrate the Texas guards all night long.

Not to try to sugar coat the loss but K State is rolling right now and finally playing like the team that was pre-season top five and picked to win the Big 12 conference. Pullen looks like an all conference player, McGruder is effective from the perimeter, and Curtis Kelly has found his rhythm too.

Vent here, if you still have the energy.

Next Game: at Baylor -- Saturday, March 5th  8 PM ESPN

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Same story as last year. Defense falters and everything else goes to sh*t....This is not fun.

"Football's so important in Texas. On the West Coast, it's a social. On the East Coast, it's a culture. Here, it's a religion."
-- Major Applewhite

by Sunkist on Feb 28, 2011 11:54 PM CST reply actions  

As bad as it's looking now

Can you expect Hamilton to play this poorly the rest of the season? If he ever finds his stroke again, he’ll hopefully gain confidence that will also give him additional energy to try on defense. If not, then we’re pretty much done.

There’s not a single leader on this team right now. Hamilton HAS to put the team on his back with his actions on the court.

by goingforthecorner on Feb 28, 2011 11:54 PM CST reply actions  

Trips on Balbay
Dogus Balbay. We have the worst halfcourt offensive point guard in the top 50, yet this was a player that was purported to be a solid shooter from 15 feet coming in from Turkey. Now he’s terrified to raise up from 10. It’s quite comical really. To watch teams give up the same easy money shots to Balbay that KSU bigs ate up tonight for bucket after bucket was maddening, but I must admit I had to chuckle at some points. So KSU’s 6-9 inch post Curtis Kelly can go 6-8 from ten feet but Doge Balbay can’t muster one made jumper? Nice.

Also called Joseph the new Avery Bradley basically. Can’t disagree with anything he said. Glad I’m not the only one who will admit how much Balbay is killing us on offense. I thought we found a way to utilize him by moving him around constantly. That died.

by goingforthecorner on Mar 1, 2011 12:43 AM CST up reply actions  

Lots of little things about this team have bugged me

IE, i play pick up basketball with people who often have never played organized ball ever, including myself. YET, most people no matter how miserable can manage a jumpshot from time to time. I know that it is not that easy but cmon! Also free throw shooting, seriously? If i took a shot every time Bob Knight talked about tristans feet being to even while shooting i would have been in the ER by halftime.

by dukeoforange on Mar 1, 2011 9:26 AM CST up reply actions  

It's a long walk from the driving range to the first tee

There’s a big difference from pick-up basketball to playing in front of packed stands and a TV audience. Obviously its a mental problem but sports is 90% mental.

by raptor rabid on Mar 2, 2011 12:53 PM CST up reply actions  

A Pattern

I don’t post an awful lot, and I certainly don’t profess to have the deep analytical skills of many regulars, but it seems to me that this basketball program has suffered from a “Peak Too Early” problem for quite a few years. Sure, there are exceptions (last year and the TJ-Ford-led Final Four run being two examples at either end of the spectrum), but by and large, it strikes me that they play some really great basketball for about three-quarters to four-fifths of the season and then begin to falter just a bit before tournament time.

I don’t know if it’s mental, physical, or not really there and I’m just imagining it, but something about the way this program functions causes them to peter out when it’s time to be at their best. in particular, the outside shooting seems to always go in the tank about this time of the year. No one can hit a perimeter shot, and the opposing defenses sag in to clog the lane on us. I wasn’t able to watch the game, but I listened to parts of it, and Hamilton’s, Joseph’s, and Brown’s bad evenings seem indicative of this.

Just an observation.

by TSRThomas on Mar 1, 2011 12:09 AM CST reply actions  

or maybe ...

We do not peak….we just do not get better and everyone else keeps improving throughout the year.

Think about our offense, J’Covan and Jordan probably shoot the fade away 18 footer about the same at the beginning and end of year. Meanwhile the Duke’s of the world get better and better at screening, ball rotation and passing eventually leading up to a wide open jumper for a great shooter.

by IUTex on Mar 1, 2011 12:18 AM CST up reply actions  

It starts with not having a quality starting point guard

we’ve been playing 4v5 all year and it worked because Hamilton was unconscious. Now he’s fallen back to earth and so has the entire team. For awhile, teammates were stepping up to lessen the effect of Hamilton’s struggles but now everyone is catching his cold spell.

But again, it all starts with PG. Our starting PG can’t create his own shot, can’t facilitate the offense consistently, and can’t be relied on to make (or even take) a single jumpshot from anywhere or a free throw. That’s the root of our problems on offense.

Defensively, we were fantastic in the 1st half. In the 2nd half, it seemed we just fell asleep.

by goingforthecorner on Mar 1, 2011 12:38 AM CST up reply actions  

This is a trademark of Barnes teams

As the PG goes, so goes the team. As good as Balbay is defensively he’s just as much if not more of a liability on offense. Stop Hamilton and you stop Texas because the PG can’t create anything.

You can generally look at team FT pct to gauge how well a team shoots. Outside of Brown and Hamilton we don’t have any pure shooters, and they’re inconsistent. That’s why we have had the long stretches without a FG over the last two years. You’re right, Barnes teams need a PG that can shoot and create because without one we play 4v5 when teams pack the paint against us. That simple.

So this year we go down in the Sweet 16, again laden with future 1st round NBA picks, because we can’t win 4v5 in the tourney. The weaknesses in FG shooting and at the line combined with poor point play will send us packing against a less talented team. We’ll see what happens next year with Kabongo.

We have a 12th man and he's Bryan Harsin

by SpiritOfTheFedora on Mar 1, 2011 1:05 PM CST up reply actions  

What I draw from that is that the Horns need a stock of real point guards.

It’s like having only one QB on a football team…ideally you have several, all well trained. (At least in my idealized football universe.)

by whills on Mar 1, 2011 7:57 PM CST up reply actions  

Y’all peaked early last year AND had terrible chemistry. Not sure you peaked early this year. Think y’all are just playing a little tight.

by miketag on Mar 1, 2011 12:23 AM CST via mobile reply actions  

This is what I'm thinking as well.

Hopefully you’re right.

Whoever said laughter is the best medicine had clearly never tasted Scotch.

by LonghornEm on Mar 1, 2011 8:52 AM CST up reply actions  

Totally agree

This team has too many demons bubbling up. The team seems to play best when they see themselves as underdogs. The K-State loss should take the pressure off them and allow them to relax.

by raptor rabid on Mar 2, 2011 12:59 PM CST up reply actions  

I realize it's not very accepted here

but Barnes teams have a simple problem- they have the confidence of a boy at a junior high dance. The first moment things start to go wrong, everything is down the gutter. Hamilton has a sweet shot, and he’s proven himself to be one of the best players in the country. Yet, he seems to have terrible confidence problems. If he’s shooting cold, he’s gonna stay cold. Just like last year. Syracuse had a terrible funk midseason, and now they’ve clawed their way back to a probable 3-4 seed. K-State went from worrying about making the NIT to worrying about improving their seed in the NCAA tourney. This is the only thing separating Barnes from the elite coaches in the country- he just can’t inspire his team, and he can’t build leaders.

by UTchemFan on Mar 1, 2011 12:49 AM CST reply actions  

People are looking for answers and others are providing believable scenarios as to why this team has lost 3 of it's last 4.

I think today’s loss was unique in it’s own way. The defensive play was not that bad, K-State was just stellar at hitting tough shots and are gonna be good in the tourney. Today’s problem was merely the fact that for most of the game, GJ, Joseph, Hamilton, and even J’Covan couldn’t hit a shot to save their life. They seem to lack flow offensively resulting in some poor shot selection. Both Hamilton and JCovan forced it inside a few times when nothing was there. Joseph missed badly on some open 3s that almost seemed he had TOO LONG a time to measure and contemplate. In the end, I think the problems the team is having is all between the ears. Need to watch some old game film and recognize what works v. What doesn’t. This team still could be a contender. The just must reclaim their mojo by mentally resetting to the earlier state. Best of luck finding your stroke, your chemistry, your confidence and swagger. Lack of confidence is causing sluggish play, bad defense at times, and a lack of rebounding. Tonight it seemed to cause shooting to be frigid. Still plenty of time to right the ship. Must calm this team down- I know they tried really hard tonight. KState played well and Texas struggled. Time to move on and try to regain our composure we carried earlier this year. All is not lost. Must be mentally strong lead by a strong coach and strong team leaders.

"I asked Darrell Royal, the coach of the Texas Longhorns, why he didn’t recruit me and he said: "Well, Walt, we took a look at you and you weren’t any good.
- Walt Garrison

by 512 on Mar 1, 2011 1:04 AM CST via mobile reply actions  

Agreed
Joseph missed badly on some open 3s that almost seemed he had TOO LONG a time to measure and contemplate.

Saw that as well.

I like how JB was drving, getting his body into the defender and drawing fouls at the end of the game, wish he would do that more often.

by DudeAbide on Mar 1, 2011 9:17 AM CST up reply actions  

We rank 126th in assists and 60th in FG%

with the latter, poor shooting efficiency, probably being partly a result of the former (lack of assists, but instead taking poor shots).

Meanwhile, KS ranks 1st in assists and 1st in FG%. OhioSt ranks 3rd in FG%. Pitt ranks 3rd in assists.

I’m no basketball coach, but doesn’t this lack of “rotation” and weak teamwork point to a need to come up with better schemes?

by bluejeans on Mar 1, 2011 1:11 AM CST reply actions  

Even KD has been criticized a few times for his lack of assisting in the NBA, and it makes me wonder if it just wasn’t well taught at Texas (his one year there, that is… HA).

Of course, that is his ONLY flaw… I am the biggest KD fan (just see my profile :)

by bluejeans on Mar 1, 2011 1:29 AM CST up reply actions  

doesn’t *our* lack of "rotation" and weak teamwork point to a need to come up with better schemes?

i.e. better coaching of players, as well as recruiting.

Most of the best teams in history had not only a lead scorer, but also a sidekick with top assisting ability.

Jordan had Pippen, Lakers had Magic Johnson, Malone had Stockton… Paul Pierce has Rondo (Celtics rank 1st), Spurs have Parker, Kobe got better with Gasol there, etc…

by bluejeans on Mar 1, 2011 1:23 AM CST reply actions  

crap, meant to post this as a reply above, to correct my grammar

by bluejeans on Mar 1, 2011 1:25 AM CST up reply actions  

Kansas State is playing desperate basketball right now, and is hot at the right time

they had their backs against the wall, came together, and they’ve gelled and have it going on at just the time of the year you want everything to come together

People who say you’ve peaked too early are missing the point entirely; that was the issue last year, but not this season. Y’all weren’t winning in blowouts because you were peaking earlier this season, y’all were winning because you were playing terrific, mistake-free basketball.

The thing that stood out to me last night about Kansas State was how tough they were on defense; they play with reckless abandon.

I do think y’all need to see what Brown can give you on the offensive end as the starting PG. People can point to Balbay all they want on defense, but he struggled with Pullen (no shame there, but when you struggle in the only area you can contribute, you need to be on the bench b/c you are bringing nothing to the floor), and he can’t make up for it on offense. If this team is to achieve their potential this postseason, you may need to see if Brown can be one of the leaders. My question is, is he up to taking on that role?

Not to be discounted, it has to be difficult to make the turnaround from a tough game at Colorado to playing Kansas State at home on senior night. I would bet your players are exhausted right now, mentally and physically. This break between now and Saturday may be just what this team needs.

by Beergut on Mar 1, 2011 1:46 AM CST reply actions   1 recs

I agree about the hangover from the Colorado loss on just one day rest

no excuses will be available for the Baylor game though. 4 full days rest till Saturday. Praying Hamilton finds some sort of rhythm in between then.

by goingforthecorner on Mar 1, 2011 2:03 AM CST up reply actions  

playing at altitude takes a lot out of you

K-State found this out last year in the NCAA when it took 2 OT’s to beat Xavier.

This time the schedule maybe benefited the Cats and hurt the Horns.

UT has a good team and regardless of seed should do well in the NCAA, and the Big 12 tournament.

The time for calm and rational discourse is past, now is the time for senseless bickering -Anonymous the Younger

by Anon_the_younger on Mar 1, 2011 9:04 AM CST up reply actions  

Agreed

Everyone wants to avoid that excuse, but it was a factor — particularly since Lexi was suspended for the game in Boulder, requiring more minutes from Gary and Jordan.

Then again, it does not seem to have affected Tristan.

by DudeAbide on Mar 1, 2011 9:10 AM CST up reply actions  

I honestly just do not care anymore.

I will still watch and root for this team, but I am not going to get pissed off and frustrated watching this team self-destruct again. Either Barnes and Co. will get it fixed and make a great run in the NCAA tournament that could possibly culminate into a national championship because I know this team has the talent to win one.

Or it will not get fixed and the season will end during the opening weekend of the tournament. Either way life will go on and I will enjoy the baseball season and see what Augie can do with a very young, but very talented squad.

A gun rack... a gun rack. I don't even own *a* gun, let alone many guns that would necessitate an entire rack. What am I gonna do... with a gun rack?

by HornsRiverine on Mar 1, 2011 6:24 AM CST reply actions  

See guys like you are why I hate posting sometimes.

Learn to read a post. I am still going to watch and root for this team, however I am not going to get worked up over it or sit here and try and analyze what is wrong and what needs to change. People vent differently and this is the way I am choosing to go about it. You may not agree with it, but I do not want some smart ass post from you about it either.

A gun rack... a gun rack. I don't even own *a* gun, let alone many guns that would necessitate an entire rack. What am I gonna do... with a gun rack?

by HornsRiverine on Mar 1, 2011 9:21 AM CST up reply actions  

Wow badass,

you are hardcore. Get a life, takes a lot balls talking shit on the computer troll.

A gun rack... a gun rack. I don't even own *a* gun, let alone many guns that would necessitate an entire rack. What am I gonna do... with a gun rack?

by HornsRiverine on Mar 1, 2011 9:25 AM CST up reply actions  

And with that I am ending this little talk with you

because I am not going to get into an argument on blog with a 15 year old using his mom’s iphone to get on here and thinks he knows anything about basketball or can contribute anything meaningful to this site.

A gun rack... a gun rack. I don't even own *a* gun, let alone many guns that would necessitate an entire rack. What am I gonna do... with a gun rack?

by HornsRiverine on Mar 1, 2011 9:31 AM CST up reply actions  

Relax bro

I get your frustration and i agree with watching and cheering with no expectations as it far less stressful. Remember, you dont have to respond and if you see his name just dont read. By responding, you give it power over your emotions. And remember, winning an argument on the internet is like winning a race in the special olympics, even if you win you are still retarded, yeh i went there.

by dukeoforange on Mar 1, 2011 9:37 AM CST up reply actions  

Didn't mean to hurt your feewings

But if you can’t take the heat what are you doing here?

I’ve been following Hornsbasketball/attending games sincethe Weltlich era. This team is damn good, one of the best we’ve had. They’re 24-6 and a likely 2-seed in the conference tourney, maybe a 3 or 4 seed in the NCAAs.

If you want to be a fair-weather fan that’s your decision, but if you announce it here then expect some blowback.

by DudeAbide on Mar 1, 2011 9:35 AM CST up reply actions  

Please tell me anywhere that my original post said anything about me being fairweather?

Are you so awesome that you can read and see emmotions through a computer now? I guess you learned that from watching basketball in the mid-80’s, huh? I know this team is damn good, in fact when this team plays good, they are arguably the best team in college basketball. However since you have been watching basketball since the 80’s and you are an expert, then you would know that college basketball teams have hot and cold streaks, every team usually goes through one, however going through one at this time of year is the wrong time. Kansas St. started off crappy in conference this year and right now I am picking them to win the conference tournament because they are playing like their preseason ranking.

A gun rack... a gun rack. I don't even own *a* gun, let alone many guns that would necessitate an entire rack. What am I gonna do... with a gun rack?

by HornsRiverine on Mar 1, 2011 9:52 AM CST up reply actions  

... fairweather? ...
“I honestly just do not care anymore.”

After 1 hard-fought loss, that’s about as fairweather as you can get. DudeAbide’s comment was very minor but still well justified. If you’re gonna quit on the team, expect blowback.

by robthecob on Mar 1, 2011 3:08 PM CST up reply actions  

Jesus Christ, since people need their hands held and this explained

by what , “I honestly do not care anymore” means. Last season was a train wreck for basketball after they got to 17-0, I lived and died with the basketball team as they spiraled out of control. I was on this board constantly trying to find out what was going on and coming up with my own opinions.

Then I lived and died with the football team this past season and did the same thing trying to figure out what was going on.

Now before the basketball season started I just did not have the energy to do it anymore and I still don’t. I am not going to get on here and try to analyze every little damn thing with what is going on with this team good or bad.

Or should I be one of those assholes that gets on here and say that the basketball team now sucks and fire Rick Barnes and all the crap and whatever else is said negatively about this team during game threads.

Now for all the fucking people that want to call me fairweather on this board does that now explain what “I honestly do not care anymore” means. It means that I still care about this team in good times and bad, it means I watch and care for all things Texas. It means that I am not going to get on here and sit here and try to figure out what is wrong with this team because I am not the god damn coach and I am not a god damn player on the University of Texas football, basketball, or the damn underwater basket weaving teams.

That is what I mean about what I do not care about. I get on here and I enjoy reading what the editors have to say and once in awhile I may post something.

God damn do you understand now or are you to fucking retarded to figure it out.

A gun rack... a gun rack. I don't even own *a* gun, let alone many guns that would necessitate an entire rack. What am I gonna do... with a gun rack?

by HornsRiverine on Mar 2, 2011 10:33 AM CST up reply actions  

Also, please explain one hard fought loss to me.

Last time I checked it was 3 out of 4 losses, and Texas was pretty well dominated in all of those games in the second half. Why don’t you go check the box scores of those games in the second half and Texas was straight up run off the court.

A gun rack... a gun rack. I don't even own *a* gun, let alone many guns that would necessitate an entire rack. What am I gonna do... with a gun rack?

by HornsRiverine on Mar 2, 2011 10:36 AM CST up reply actions  

Everyone calm down

I think what HornsRiverine is saying is that he’s going to temper his expectations going forward. If they win, he’ll be happy, but if they stumble again, he’s made his peace with it.

Let’s move on now.

You ain't hurt...

by Peter Bean on Mar 2, 2011 11:05 AM CST up reply actions  

Dude, you need to settle down ... seriously.

Sounds like you’re working through your own issues on how to personally deal with this losing stretch … and that’s fine – we’re all frustrated … but nobody really said anything too acerbic to you that would justify the freakouts. Keep it classy. No need to lose the respect of other posters by throwing around “smarta$$ … bada$$ … talking $h!t … using the Lord’s name in vain … a$$holes … fu##!n@ people … god d@mn coach / player … fu##!n@ retard”. All of those responses were completely out of line … and you need to realize it.

Enlightening discussion & friendly banter are welcome but personal attacks and weak language are not. Let’s, instead, talk about the Horns & how we love ’em.

by robthecob on Mar 2, 2011 12:00 PM CST up reply actions  

You really could not leave this alone could you?

Did you seriously not read what PB put out right above your post. He put it exactly how If feel about this whole thing in 3 sentences, now for the love of god, move on.

A gun rack... a gun rack. I don't even own *a* gun, let alone many guns that would necessitate an entire rack. What am I gonna do... with a gun rack?

by HornsRiverine on Mar 2, 2011 2:21 PM CST up reply actions  

Aaaaaand.... done.

You both got your last word in.

Now we move on. Kumbaya.

You ain't hurt...

by Peter Bean on Mar 2, 2011 3:12 PM CST up reply actions  

Dude

I think you misunderstood what he was saying in his original comment.

You ain't hurt...

by Peter Bean on Mar 1, 2011 10:43 AM CST up reply actions  

Is it time,

to think of a new head coach? I mean Barnes can’t win a conference championship let alone a deep run in the tournament. Pus he keeps recruiting the same guys. Look at next years guys. Look at every one of these guys “needs to work on” and you see the same thing. “Needs to work on his shot.”

by bevo_mav on Mar 1, 2011 7:58 AM CST reply actions  

Are you serious about recruits?

Have you seen the rankings on these recruiting classes? A better question: do you really think that high school kids don’t ALL need to work on their game to be college players?

Look at the number of guys who are going pro from Barnes’ teams. Recruiting is not the issue.

As to your “look at next years [sic] guys” comment, they look great to me. Not sure what you’re talking about.

Watch out, I bite.

by EddieTheAlbinoSquirrel on Mar 1, 2011 8:10 AM CST up reply actions  

No, not yet

However if this trend continues into the future then it may very come down to finding a new coach.

A gun rack... a gun rack. I don't even own *a* gun, let alone many guns that would necessitate an entire rack. What am I gonna do... with a gun rack?

by HornsRiverine on Mar 1, 2011 8:36 AM CST up reply actions  

PB, sorry I should have been more specific.

No Rick Barnes should not be fired, what I meant by what I said if this trend were to continue and if early exits from the ncaa tournament continue, then would I ever consider thinking about hiring a new bball coach.

A gun rack... a gun rack. I don't even own *a* gun, let alone many guns that would necessitate an entire rack. What am I gonna do... with a gun rack?

by HornsRiverine on Mar 1, 2011 11:17 AM CST up reply actions  

No

No, no, and no again. Before the season started, Wiggo and I looked at our roster and struggled to count 22 wins overall, 10 in conference play. We’re 24-6, 12-3. Barnes has done a fantastic job this season.

Please check your recency bias.

You ain't hurt...

by Peter Bean on Mar 1, 2011 10:44 AM CST up reply actions  

Spot-On

They are still heading towards one of the highest seeds in the tourney that they have ever received. let’s hope a week of rest and preparation pays off in Waco.

by DudeAbide on Mar 1, 2011 10:59 AM CST up reply actions  

I would dispute this.

You and Wiggo counted wins based on data you had available. What’s of note is data that you did not have available — namely, the emergence of players like Tristan Thompson and Jordan Hamilton. Now while it’s certainly not fair to discount the influence of good coaching on their development, I think it’s also unfair to use the same expectations we had at the beginning of the season now.

As the team and players develop, expectations are necessarily reset. To fail to fulfill those new expectations is by no means rationale to fire the coach, but it’s okay to judge his performance by the higher standard which, to some degree, he himself helped set. Much in the same way that were a key player to go down to injury we would excuse (somewhat) the failure of the team as a whole, we have to account for the fact that two key players (Hamilton and Thompson) were far better this season than last.

Greg Davis haikus; a lot like his offenses; always go sideways.

by pleaseplaykindle on Mar 1, 2011 3:57 PM CST up reply actions  

That's a fair point

To which I’d simply say, “By any standard, this season has been a success.”

You ain't hurt...

by Peter Bean on Mar 1, 2011 4:55 PM CST up reply actions  

Hard to win when you only have one player who can score

Thompson was great, particularly in the 1st half. Too bad he had no help from the other eight players who saw the floor.

The long bright spot was Tristan Thompson, who was simply outstanding in the first half. TT scored 26 points on 9-of-14 from the floor and a respectable 8-for-13 from the free throw line while also grabbing 10 boards.

Thompson shot well over his FT average for the year, but you wouldn’t have known it listening to Bob Knight who simply does not pay attention to the game he is being paid to cover.

by DudeAbide on Mar 1, 2011 8:21 AM CST reply actions  

Wondering what's up with Hamilton

Been MIA for a few games now. Strange.

Watch out, I bite.

by EddieTheAlbinoSquirrel on Mar 1, 2011 8:45 AM CST up reply actions  

I think Chip was just fishing for something.

Said he asked Jordan if he had an injury to his hip and Jordan said he was fine.

Sports is man's joke on God, You see, God says to man, 'I've created a universe where it seems like everything matters, where you'll have to grapple with life and death and in the end you'll die anyway, and it won't really matter.' So man says to God, 'Oh, yeah? Within your universe we're going to create a sub-universe called sports, one that absolutely doesn't matter, and we'll follow everything that happens in it as if it were life and death.'" - Sam Kellerman

by 2Cor12:9 on Mar 1, 2011 10:11 AM CST up reply actions  

Where JHam goes, this team will go

And that’s on both ends. If spent the entire night just watching him on both ends. He’s panicking on offense, playing outside of himself again, and when he messes up he doesn’t get back on defense. On D, he’s lost and tired, can’t move laterally and loses man. Then he gets more down on himself.
If he misses a shot, he doesn’t look to get back on defense, he looks to get the quick steal back, to quickly atone for his missed shot.
All of this leads to everyone having to compensate for him, and the team is literally imploding because of it around him.
It’s not at all that he’s a bad player, he’s just doing too much of the wrong things, and reverting back to old ways, and when they don’t work he tries too much of the other wrong things.

by abcdmetrius on Mar 1, 2011 8:50 AM CST reply actions  

In Conference Play, Yeah -- Pretty Much

In UT’s three conference losses Hammy is 15 of 58 for 26% from the field. He shot well vs. Pitt and UConn, not so hot vs. USC. Here are his stats in the losses.

vs. PITT: 8-18 FG 44%, 5-8 3P, 7-9 FT, 7 REB
vs. USC: 4-13 FG 31%, 1-5 3P, 3-4 FT, 4 REB
vs. UCONN: 8-16 FG 50%, 3-7 3P, 1-3 FT, 11 REB
vs. NEB: 3-16 FG 19%, 3-11 3P, 9-11 FT, 5 REB
vs. CO: 7-24 FG 29%, 5-13 3P, 2-2 FT, 7 REB
vs. KSU: 5-18 FG 28%, 1-4 3P, 3-3 FT, 9 REB

by DudeAbide on Mar 1, 2011 9:04 AM CST up reply actions  

We look absolutely exhausted.

I think I recall last year (maybe two years ago) that the coaching staff was making changes to lighten how hard we practice in Jan/Feb to prevent us from losing our legs. Does anyone know any details on the style of practice we’re having this year?
The way we come out of the gates every game, we seem to be spending everything we have by the 10 minute mark of the first half. Maybe this is too easy of an excuse, but it’s common knowledge that when tired, the first things to fall apart are defensive assignments and the outside shot.
I was thinking earlier in the year that we might run in to this problem, but I figured it would be Thompson and Joseph that would hit a wall since they’re averaging 30+ minutes a night as freshmen. However, they seem to be the only two players with much gas left in the tank, other than Brown and his 20 mins a night.
As much as I want a Big 12 tourney title, I don’t think I’ll be too upset if we get bounced early and get some extra rest heading in to the big Dance. We’ve proven that when rested, we can win on the road against really good teams. Maybe the extra rest mixed with a 4 seed opposite BYU, Pitt or OSU wouldn’t be the worst thing.

On a side note, where in the world was Hamilton going on that inbounds pass to McGruder for a wide open 3? That play killed us.

by hayzer13 on Mar 1, 2011 8:52 AM CST reply actions  

ding ding ding....

that is what I see…..a team that has hit the wall from a physical and mental aspect….and its showing up in the 2nd half of these losses. A prime example is the inbounds pass in which Hamilton ran well away from his man for who knows why..to me that is just mental fatigue.

The question for this team in March is can they find their 2nd wind, regroup and play with the 40 minutes of energy from a physical & mental standpoint. They have the talent to make a serious run in March…..we just don’t know if they’ll have the legs to do it.

by silky51 on Mar 1, 2011 9:01 AM CST up reply actions  

Agreed

The bench is way too short. I don’t understand how you lose three seniors and an early NBA entrant, red-shirt one of your posts, and only add two guys to the roster.

Granted Barnes may not have expected Varez Ward and Shawn Williams to graduate. Losing Ward was a huge blow.

by DudeAbide on Mar 1, 2011 9:08 AM CST up reply actions  

Granted Barnes may not have expected Varez Ward and Shawn Williams to graduate. Losing Ward was a huge blow.

He didn’t expect it, considering they transferred to different schools. They didn’t graduate.

by vy til i die on Mar 1, 2011 11:59 AM CST up reply actions  

Right you are

Meant “transfer”, not graduate.

by DudeAbide on Mar 1, 2011 12:57 PM CST up reply actions  

Chip said this morning that JM stated that the inside guy needed help.

Take it for what you will. I think it was just a lapse in judgment i.e. channeling his inner Gideon like you said.

ATX

by Atownatx on Mar 1, 2011 9:42 AM CST up reply actions  

Heard That As Well

He left McGruder [sp?] open twice for easy 3s. Once he was indeed helping out on a dribble-drive, but on the in-bound pass he simply lost his man. Fatigue leading to a lack of concentration?

by DudeAbide on Mar 1, 2011 9:52 AM CST up reply actions  

Joseph the new Avery Bradley

After one bad game? Bull. He had a bad night from the field, I still would like to see him shoot more often.

Bradley/Balbay held Pullen to 4 pts. in the first half.

by DudeAbide on Mar 1, 2011 9:15 AM CST reply actions  

And 16 in the second half, though.

Just saying that your fellow Horn fans who are critiquing your Gs are not far off-base, at least from this Cat fan’s perspective.

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by K. Scott Bailey on Mar 1, 2011 8:54 PM CST up reply actions  

This team has lost its confidence and looks tired.

Additionally, the team is in a slump, which could potentially lead to a meltdown. I agree with the above statements that this team needs some counseling but unfortunately Barnes does not provide counseling.

ATX

by Atownatx on Mar 1, 2011 9:48 AM CST reply actions  

Barnes does not provide counseling

Nailed it, Barnes is not that kind of coach. But what of his assistants, particularly the former Longhorn players on staff – Ogden and Paulino? Is there not one touchie-feelie assistant to balance out Barnes?

by DudeAbide on Mar 1, 2011 9:58 AM CST up reply actions  

I see a few common ideas in this thread

I think this theory of the team being worn out “has legs”, pun intended. The last couple of years you can see how the team has worn down. Also, this team does live and die by the shooting of JHam BECAUSE we do not run set plays with cutting and screening worth a damn, Utah offense indeed. We roll people when JHam is shooting well because it opens up the floor and gives everyone more space to operate due to the defense being honest. I liken this phenomenon to the running game or lack thereof for the football team. I think Bob Knight was making excellent pts with our offense not being spread out and we were crowding 5 guys into 25ft of space.

So combine JHam’s poor shooting shrinking the floor with Dogus inability, through fear or lack of skill, to shoot a jumpshot and the floor shrinks more. this small floor crowds the only other strength we have in TT and he was contested all night despite his numbers. Throw in the hillariously bad FT ability of TT and he really isnt that scary because you can play him hard knowing that: 1. he cant shoot FTs to save himself and 2. If you wear him down its a double victory because his backups cant score at all.

No one thing is dragging this team down after such a great year but a series of small problems that cannot or have not improved.

by dukeoforange on Mar 1, 2011 9:49 AM CST reply actions  

Bruised.

And all Wildcats everywhere are thanking the Baby Jesus for that!

"Coaching a football team is the most engrossing thing in the world. It is playing chess with human pawns." --Walter Camp

by K. Scott Bailey on Mar 1, 2011 8:55 PM CST up reply actions  

Well, That's Good

I have nothing against the kid, hate to see him hurt at this stage of the season.

by DudeAbide on Mar 1, 2011 8:58 PM CST up reply actions  

DukeofOranges Gets it.

You hit the nail exactly. It’s like we are playing in really a small room. We have got to keep our floor space honest through tenacious defense and accurate free throw shots. If we don’t…bye bye post season. dudeabide made a great point, its not an issue of talent (believe me, we have got that). It’s a matter of heart. And it just seems like our hearts are somwhere else right now. That is not the Texas way.

choke hold

by HornsHooker on Mar 1, 2011 11:20 AM CST reply actions  

There may be some logic to this kind of season.

In the non-conference games both teams try to play their style of ball based on the coach and the type of players they have. Teams don’t have time to adapt much because the kind of ball you train a team for is the conference play.
You end up with mismatches in style. you can hid a teams weakness based on you only see the non conference opponents once and they may have more motivation to play a style that matches up better with the conference opponents.

When you get into the conference games you go through a round of games where teams are just learning about each other and may not build up a good game plan to be effective. By the second round of games teams have played before and know each other weaknesses and can now work to exploit them.
Texas both last year and this have not adapted what they learned about their opponents because the won so easily in the beginning, if it works why change? The competition has adjusted to stop the Horns and the Horns are trying to play the way they did 2 months ago. But the better conference teams now have adjusted to the style of ball Texas plays and Texas has not.

by Xerxes on Mar 1, 2011 12:29 PM CST reply actions  

When you get into the conference games you go through a round of games where teams are just learning about each other and may not build up a good game plan to be effective. By the second round of games teams have played before and know each other weaknesses and can now work to exploit them.

I said this last night that this team reminds me of the 2009 MNC game Texas vs Alabama.

There is no plan B.

ATX

by Atownatx on Mar 1, 2011 1:32 PM CST up reply actions  

Sad to say but the article hits on some good points

Not sure what Texas team will show up during the tournament.

I guess the one good thing is that we may catch a break in the first two rounds because Texas would be an unknown to new teams.

ATX

by Atownatx on Mar 1, 2011 1:42 PM CST up reply actions  

Short shots

Maybe it’s just me, but it seems like we are missing an awful lot of shots under the basket. A lot of times our guards get to the basket only to roll one across the rim. Dunks have not been high percentage shots, esp. for Gary. And I haven’t seen a tip-in basket for a while either (at least into our basket).

Before you criticize someone, walk a mile in their shoes. If they get mad, you're a mile away AND you have their shoes.

by Caradoc on Mar 1, 2011 3:12 PM CST reply actions  

I hear you, Caradoc

Barnes needs to coach the guys. Seems like lesson no. 1 would be that shooting from directly under the basket is a tough shot. You have to be a little bit to the side of the basket. Sorry, Barnes…but if you don’t know that much, don’t let the door hit ya for the good lord split ya!

I bleed orangish-brown.

by Tex Mex on Mar 1, 2011 10:15 PM CST up reply actions  

I Guarantee You

That the winningest coach in UT basketball history knows a bit more about the sport than you.

by DudeAbide on Mar 2, 2011 7:13 AM CST up reply actions  

at least into our basket

Heh.

Agreed, which is why I was encouraged when JB drove to the basket and put his body into the defender twice in the closing minutes last night, drawing fouls both times. Too oftern he misses the lay-up and does not draw any contact. And “Ball-bee” [as Musburger calls him] missed a couple of lay-ups that he usually hits last night.

by DudeAbide on Mar 1, 2011 3:40 PM CST reply actions  

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