Texas Recruiting 2012: Quarterback Big Board
by Wescott Eberts (GoBR) on Feb 6, 2011 10:15 PM CST
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| Name | School | JD invite? | Offer? |
Commitment/ odds |
Quick take |
| Connor Brewer |
Chaparral (AZ) |
Feb. 26 |
Extremely likely |
75% | A decidedly pro-style quarterback, Brewer has solid size at 6-2 and decent athleticism. It's his accuracy on the deep ball that will endear him to Bryan Harsin, who recruited Brewer while at Boise State and helped his high school coaches install Bronco offense at Chaparral. Older sister is a swimmer at Texas. Could commit at the second Junior Day. National recruit. Onto the Radar scouting report. |
| Trevor Knight |
SA Reagan |
Feb. 12 | Possible | 99% | Knight has better arm strength than Brewer and is a better athlete, but lacks his overall polish as a passer. Lifelong Texas fan. Would almost certainly commit if offered. |
| Matt Davis |
Klein Forest |
Unknown (will not attend any Junior Days) |
Unlikely | 15% | Explosive athlete with off-the-charts playmaking ability with the ball in his hands. Mechanics are sloppy, but has solid arm strength. Blown ACL in first game of 2010 slowed his development as a passer. Texas coaches may not like the fact that he's not making any Junior Day visits because he wants more personal attention than the crowded events can provide. Longhorns could pursue him as an athlete. My early preference, before Brewer surfaced on the radar. |
Overview -- The Longhorns were lucky to be able to land top target David Ash in the 2011 class and may get lucky again with Connor Brewer. Looking towards the future, it's unlikely that all four quarterback taken in the 2010 through 2012 class (Connor Wood, Case McCoy, Ash, and the 2012 commitment) will last long in the program -- one of them will transfer, likely the loser in the competition for the back-up job. Wood or McCoy in other words, assuming that Garrett Gilbert manages to remain a starter.
Basically, this isn't a position of major need this season with the recent commitments. However, the recent past suggests that quarterbacks are notoriously hard to keep in the program if they don't have a chance at starting (or even get them on campus, as de-commits from Riley Dodge and John Brantley suggest), so the numbers could thin out quickly, as they did in the early part of the Colt McCoy era. Hence the relatively recent preference of Mack Brown to take a quarterback in every class.
All of that is a long way of saying that if Texas lands Brewer at JD2, recruiting at the position will be considered a major success. Even "settling" for a guy like Trevor Knight, who would be a solid career back-up at the least, wouldn't be a disappointment considering the depth already at the position.
What the Texas coaches have to figure out is what they will do if Brewer doesn't accept the offer from Texas early. If he waits through the spring, does the coaching staff move on to a sure commitment like Knight? How long will Knight wait for Texas if he doesn't get an early offer, as is likely? Will the coaches even wait to evaluate how Matt Davis has progressed as a quarterback?
Wish List --
- Connor Brewer
- Matt Davis
- Trevor Knight
The odds are heavy that Brewer receives the first offer given out to a quarterback. While it's less likely that he commits on the spot, Brewer does understand how the recruiting process works at Texas with Mack Brown preferring to prospects who are ready to commit on the spot. Will Brewer pull the trigger at JD2?
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which one
will the coaches take Brewer or Knight? or both? I say the odds of one or two QB’s transferring after spring practices is pretty good.
Almost assuredly
Not both. Brewer is certainly the favorite to get the offer and to commit, as Roy stated.
Even with attrition I think Texas only takes one.
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by Wescott Eberts (GoBR) on Feb 6, 2011 2:09 PM CST up reply actions
Only one problem I foresee
The potential return of “Good Connor / Bad Connor” posts.
Still a Blaine Irby fan
Now add in multiple QBs named Connor
Kinda makes your mind twist.
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by Wescott Eberts (GoBR) on Feb 6, 2011 2:45 PM CST up reply actions
I think Brewer's relationship with Harsin gives me a leg up
Thanks GOBR. I didn’t know the back story on Brewer and Harsin until now.
If Harsin is the QB guru, let him offer whom ever he wants. I like the Brewer – JW Walsh comparisons.
I am confused, if Knight is a better athlete and has better arm strength why isn’t he the favorite for an offer? The 49% accuracy might have something to do with it. I’m ignorant on Reagan’s scheme, coaching or supporting players, but 49% accuracy is very difficult to explain away.
I don’t think there is any way Texas offers 2 QBs unless somebody transfers. My fear is that it will be Wood. No way Case transfers, the kid bleeds burnt orange and Ash just got to campus. I sincerely hope Wood doesn’t transfer because he has the best physical skills among the Texas QBs.
I’d love to see what Wood could do in a game situation. Let’s all hope Wood makes it to the Fall and gets that chance.
I agree Davis needs to be offered, probably as an athlete and during his senior season if the spots allow it.
I’ve heard that Knight will be Okie’s number 1 QB target for 2012. I hate to see dyed in the wool Texas fans go play for the Gooners. A chip on your shoulder is a very powerful motivator.
GOBR I heard it’ll probably be Texas and Bama for Brewer? GOBR do you think Brewer already has a verbal offer from Texas? He just visited a couple weeks ago. You have to like our chances for Brewer with big sister on campus and his prior relationship with Harsin.
by billfromlaketravis on Feb 6, 2011 3:32 PM CST reply actions
Don't think Brewer has an offer.
He certainly didn’t talk like it after visiting Austin. Agree that ’Bama could be the major competition, as he visited for the Auburn game and it sounded like he really enjoyed the environment there. We shall see.
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by Wescott Eberts (GoBR) on Feb 7, 2011 12:09 AM CST up reply actions
Tape on Brewer Very Impressive
Those first 4-5 throws on Brewer’s highlights are just amazing for a sophmore. The accuracy sick as those windows were really really tight. Color me impressed on that kid. Not to mean, but I did not many throws like that last year.
Note to Bill Byrne "Because you aren´t Texas and you´ll never be Texas"
Brewer's relationship with Harsin gives Connor a leg up *
by billfromlaketravis on Feb 6, 2011 3:44 PM CST reply actions
Qb buddy?
why isnt texas going aftt Brewer’s teamate
Davonte’ Neal
Could pursue him
I think the answer would be that he’s out of state, doesn’t appear to have any connections to Texas except for Brewer being his roommate, there are some talented wide receivers in state, and Neal is a little on the small side.
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by Wescott Eberts (GoBR) on Feb 7, 2011 12:10 AM CST up reply actions
assume that in 2012 we have GG, wood, mccoy, ash and the 2012 recruit, but the loser of the wood/mccoy battle backup transfers out…so we have 4 qb’s.
If GG is great (which we hope for), he may only be around throught the 2013 season…which would leave only the wodd/mccoy winner, ash, and the 2012 recruit…factor in any type of injury to any of the above, or the failure of ash to develop and we are really thin.
Assume that in 2012 we have Gilbert, Wood, McCoy, Ash and the 2012 recruit, but the loser of the Wood/McCoy battle backup doesn’t transfer out.
Gilbert isn’t going anywhere no matter what. After last season, he’s going to need the rest of his time in college to convince scouts. He’s not leaving early.
What does it matter?
The general rule of thumb is you try and take a QB every year. I’d much rather be in a position where I keep the cupboard stocked and let the cream rise to the top rather than not recruit it and just go with what we have.
"I want to be remembered as the guy who gave his all whenever he was on the field."
-Walter Payton
Great, now I need a milk shake.
keep the cupboard stocked and let the cream rise to the top
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by run Bevo run on Feb 6, 2011 11:13 PM CST up reply actions
Mack has had trouble at QB
every since he hit the 40 acres.
First there was the Simms – Applewhite fiasco that hurt the program and divided fans into two camps.
Chance Mock was a good QB.Unfortunately he wasn’t as good as superman VY.
Vince Young what can I say.Once he convinced Mack to turn him loose he was fantastic.
Then we got a red shirt frosh from the small town of Tuscola, Colt McCoy.He only had a backup for one season and then Jevan Snead bolted for the SEC.
We were then left with two massive miffs by Mack. Sherod Harris who never even saw the field enough to get a letter and John Chiles who couldn’t throw.These guys were only progress blockers for the other QBs.
Throw in J.G. Kinee who transferred out after a season and the QB cupboard has been pretty bare untill Chase and Conner came in last year.
I think the previous coaches thought more highly of Wood since he got the shirt.
Everyone was saying what are we going to do if Gilbert goes pro after his junior year.Now many posters have serious doubts about Gilbert’s abilties to lead this team.
So Ash will be added to the mix and we will see who the starter will be in our opener.
Our best case scenario is that Gilbert becomes the QB we thought he was.If not we will be starting someone with very limited experience.
So after all this rambling I agree only one QB taken in the next class.
If having VY and Colt for more than half your tenure is trouble....
….then every college coach in the country has ‘had trouble". Compared with many, if not most, schools we’ve been pretty lucky.
by BeeCaveHornFan on Feb 7, 2011 7:35 AM CST up reply actions
Does anyone know
if Case McCoy will be warmed up enough at spring practice to play?
Probably not, besides
opening up the QB competition might hurt GG’s confidence.
"Only angry people win football games." --DKR
Mack already told the press that the QB job is open for competition.
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by Wescott Eberts (GoBR) on Feb 7, 2011 1:23 PM CST up reply actions
I predict a quarterback controversy in 2011
GG will win the starting role, not because of Greg Davis style cronyism, but because he’ll be the most ready of the available choices. The anti-Gilbert fan base, now in the majority, begins complaining in earnest, screaming “favoritism”. Every Gilbert misstep — and no matter how improved he is or is not, there will be plenty given all the other re-tooling going on — will make the chorus of “Show me the Wood/McCoy/Ash!” grow stronger. The coaches, you know, having a team to run and this being their ship and all, will ignore the fan base who may actually be right. Its going to be ugly.
I went to the practices.
Gilbert looked more poised when throwing.
Had the better arm.
Better spirals.
Better accuracy.
And I thought the dude had ice in his veins after seeing the MNC.
He needs to work on his touch with the ball some more. He really guns every throw. Last year his receivers had some serious issues with holding onto the ball and I would put some of that on GG but alot on the receivers as well.
I think its highly possible that he also has some technical flaws. I.e footwork, hip movement, telegraphing his throws, but these can be fixed with some work.
I think his biggest issue was simply the vision. Pretty often he just didnt see the defender. He needs to put in the hours in the film room. And its something that he can improve on. I dont think its ever going to be a strength of his. He is always going to be an interception prone guy.
Oh yeah and it also doesnt help when everyone else on your team sucks. When you are going into fetal position because your receivers cant get open, cant catch the ball – your oline cant open any holes – you cant get any measure of consistency( partly due to health) from your running backs your life just isnt much fun.
Add TEs and H-back
See ya later, alligator.
by Paleface Horn on Feb 7, 2011 10:17 AM CST up reply actions
This may come across as harsh..
but the sooner we end the GG era the better. It wasnt all GD’s fault. GG was flat out terrible at times last year. I’d rather take one step back to take 2 or 3 steps forward. Maybe im still in shock form last year, but I never want to see GG under center for UT again. I wish the kid the best, but may being a big time QB isnt in his cards.
"Knowledge is knowing that a tomato is a fruit, wisdom is knowing not to put it in a fruit salad" - Unknown
I never want to see GG under center for UT again
You won’t if he’s taking snaps from the shotgun ;)
by vy til i die on Feb 7, 2011 10:46 AM CST up reply actions
One thing in GG defense
about half of his ints came off of tipped balls.How much of this was on him or on the WRs I don’t know.
My main complaint about him is that the team didn’t seem to have any confidence in him and he didn’t assume the position of leader of the offense as Colt and Vince did.
It's one 247, it's official Brewer to Texas
I told y’all I thought that Connor might already have an offer. Welcome to the 40 Connor.
by billfromlaketravis on Feb 7, 2011 9:02 PM CST reply actions
We don't need Conner's OL
Judging from his JR video, he likes to leave the pocket prematurely. He’ll fit in fine around here.
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by run Bevo run on Feb 7, 2011 10:37 PM CST up reply actions
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