Texas Recruiting 2012: Tight End Big Board
by Wescott Eberts (GoBR) on Feb 9, 2011 9:01 AM CST
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Needs -- One
| Name | School | JD invite? | Offer? |
Commitment/ odds |
Favorites |
Quick take |
| Dominic Ramacher |
Denton Guyer |
No |
Possible | N/A |
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6-3, 230. Darrell Wyatt apparently stopped by Guyer and got film on him. Listed as an ILB by Rivals, Ramacher could also get a look at FB/TE/H-back. Moves well for his size, has good feet, looks willing to block, highly effective doing so in space. Overall a strong athlete for his size. Looks smaller than listed on film, though; more H-back/FB than TE in college. Can't see much of his hands. Can he catch the ball away from his body? Could be a possible target. Video. |
| Hassan Ridgeway |
Mansfield |
No |
Unlikely (as TE) |
N/A |
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6-3, 236. Also plays defensive end for Mansfield and is being recruited as a DE or 3-4 OLB by A&M. The only video provides little. Wants to commit soon. Ridgeway does not currently have a Junior Day invite from Texas. Could commit at an LSU Junior Day. |
| Griffin Giblert |
Lake Travis |
No |
Unlikely | N/A |
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On the very fringes of the radar because of his lack of speed (4.8-4.9 40 last summer) and weight (200 pounds last summer). Strong in the red zone. Developmental project at TE, could play the flex or as an H-back. Receiving interest from Tulsa and Texas Tech. |
Names to know -- Um, the list above is stretching things far enough.
Overview -- It sounds like schools are looking at Ridgeway on the defensive side and there's not much in terms of highlights on him. Gilbert is on the fringes of the radar. There really isn't much in state at the tight end position right now, so looks like Ramacher is currently the best option available. Otherwise, Texas will have to go out of state or wait and keep on evaluating players around the state in hopes that someone emerges onto the radar.
Wish list --
- Unidentified Mythical TE Savior
- Ramacher
After watching his highlights, Ramacher looks like a slightly taller, more tight end-y Joe Bergeron. Terrible comparison, right? Well, the point is that Ramacher played virtually everywhere at Guyer and has the athleticism and willingness to block that makes him a solid projection to remain just as versatile in college. The guess here is that Bryan Harsin will like his versatility and that could be enough to land an offer.
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I want a TE but...
I’m fine with waiting till late summer/fall to offer them, not a critical position this year, hopefully another front runner pops up in Texas or an OOS candidate emerges like ASJ last year (who now is looking like more of a miss after seeing this board).
We may have to wait on a TE
Until the sons of Scaife/Thomas/Finley are old enough.
Damn, I wished we’d gone after Amaro last year.
Why would
we need a TE?
Even after 2011 we will have 5 (or 6).
McFarland
Matthews
Graham
Terrell
Grant
Jones (unless he moves back to DE)
Wow, aren’t we tired of waisting scholarships on this position?
I would hope we could wait til the next class to jump back into this position…unless there is a can’t miss prospect of course.
Irby may be back as well
See ya later, alligator.
by Paleface Horn on Feb 9, 2011 9:43 AM CST up reply actions
That is what I am hearing
Will Irby be a Senior or will he have 2 more years of eligibility? Wasn’t he injured early in his Sophomore year?
I left Irby and Howard out of the list above because I think they are Seniors this year. Whereas the others will be returning next season.
He could be granted a 6th year
which would give him two seasons.
We have a 12th man and he's Bryan Harsin
by SpiritOfTheFedora on Feb 9, 2011 3:10 PM CST up reply actions
Read he was cleared to play by team doctors
But haven’t found confirmation of this anywhere. I thought he was hurt his freshman season, but might be wrong on that.
by jmptexas on Feb 9, 2011 10:52 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
Hurt at the Rice game his soph year
It was either the first or second game of that year.
I believe the issue wasn’t that he wasn’t cleared medically to play, it is that he hadn’t regained the ability to make sharp cuts on the knee.
yes, but
can any of these guys replace the production we lost when the leading receiver from the East-West Shrine game left the program?
OG?
I hope that we move both Porter and Walters to the outside as they project well enough to play in the NFL at that position.
However, you are right…we are pretty thin on the overall line somehow.
I would like to see the OG’s as Tray Allen,Sr., Trey Hopkins,Soph., Mark Buchanon, Jr., Thomas Ashcraft, Soph., Sedrick Flowers, HS Fr., and Marcus Hutchins,HS Fr.
If not, then Porter can add depth and if they don’t move Walters to T it should more than solidy this position for the year.
Thats what I was thinking too, but remember...
Allen and Buchanon will be gone soon so it’ll basically be just Ashcraft and Flowers, depending on our OT situtation Porter, Walters, and even Hopkins could play outside. I don’t have much faith in Hutchins…or Doyle. So I see a need for 2 good OGs in this class.
People are saying that
Kriegel was moved to the O-line last year. At 6-5 – 270 I would expect him to provide more depth at OG if they don’t move him back to DT. I guess that will be a decision made by Searles and Bo Davis.
Next, mackbrown-texasfootball.com has Buchanon as a Soph.? That would give him two more seasons instead of one.
Hutchins? I’m with you on that one. He is very small right now and may project at C or OG. Either way he needs to hit up some buffets in Austin soon.
The Walters/Porter move is contingent on depth at OG and to be honest I don’t see it happening. Flowers may be ready, but not Hutchins.
Inside Texas say Jr
link here I also just want a big body at OG which I think we’re thin at no matter what the depth chart says.
Coached Ridgeway when
he was a sophomore and then saw film on him from this past year. I think he is a much better TE and a DE. However, is he Texas good? That is debatable. He is a good kid and in Mansfields I offense he has had extensive experience with inline blocking. He would come in polished in that area but his route running would probably be average at best. Good kid, though. I hope he does well wherever he ends up.
"I want to be remembered as the guy who gave his all whenever he was on the field."
-Walter Payton
Unless there were a must-have TE out there, this could be a great year to just not take one
McFarland could definitely redshirt. Graham, Grant, and Terrell can finally get some on-field experience. Irby can do his best to re-start what was once a very promising career. Matthews wasn’t great last year, but he returns the most recent and relevant experience. Dom Jones looked pretty decent as a blocker, as I recall, and even had a couple of receptions.
Of those guys, it’s entirely possible that every single one could be eligible to still be at Texas by the time a 2012 recruit begins fall practice at Texas. I say that because Irby may be able to play two seasons, and DJ Grant would be a senior—with the possibility of a sixth season, too.
Just Harsin around.
I agree with the above posts
Texas really doesn’t need to take another TE in 2012, especially with the in state talent being bone thin.
Unless an out of state stud shows a real interest in Texas, Texas should probably punt on 2012 TEs and let the numbers thin out.
I think Ahmard Howard is medical scholarship bound, sooner than later hopefully. That would leave Texas at 8 TEs on schollie with McFarland.
I hope Texas gets something, anything from DJ Grant this year. I remember the coaches were raving about him in Fall Practice before he got hurt the first time.
I agree unless a 5 star TE comes along, please don’t take another TE Mack and staff.
by billfromlaketravis on Feb 9, 2011 10:01 AM CST reply actions
What About Psychological Impact
Maybe GG would feel more comfortable psychologically with his brother on board and we should invest a schollie.
Note to Bill Byrne "Because you aren´t Texas and you´ll never be Texas"
Griffin Gilbert
Any chance he would accept a “preferred walkon” role with the eye toward a schollie if things open up? UT is not that expensive of a school and the Gilbert family already saved on GG’s schollie…..they probablly support the school and they may be willing to forego a schollie to a lesser school to assist the team. It would be “taking one for the team” for sure, but would be nice for them also to have both kids at Texas.
Also, if you read what Saban said about oversigning it was kind of interesting. Bascially he said that folks have no idea about who is really on schollie or not and how close they are to 85 or not. Basically I took it to mean that some kids don’t take the schollie even though they were recruited, offered and signed LOI. For whatever reason (perhaps family have money and support the school anyway, and just paid the kid’s tuition to save a schollie for someone that really needs the money/scholarship). I may be totally missing how it all works, but that is what assumed he was saying. I wondered how the NCAA feels about this, but when my nephew/Godson was born it was the year in which the Tomorrow Fund was about to stop because they didn’t work the numbers out right and it was an incredible deal. My parents and I paid cash for his full 4 year tuition, etc. So, he doesn’t need a schollie even if he were to “earn” one. We could get our money back at some rate, but I wouldn’t want Texas to repay my money from 18 years ago if it meant costing signing another good player.
There's a precedent
… and from the same school: Cade McCrary.
Still a Blaine Irby fan
by patienthornsfan on Feb 9, 2011 11:02 AM CST up reply actions
Gilbert is good enough to get a scholarship somewhere.
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by Wescott Eberts (GoBR) on Feb 9, 2011 11:28 AM CST up reply actions
Yeah, but if "somewhere" is really "no where"?
I’m just saying. If he gets a schollie from North Texas does he really take that over being a preferred walk-on at Texas?
And if he is good enough to get a schollie from a top tier school, then he is really someone we cannont accomodate somehow?
Oh, btw everyone, the Sooners are rejoicing over on their board that they finally got Tier 1 status. I was shocked to learn they didn’t have it until now, but they repeatedly call me arrogant over there so I didn’t bother posting how terribly sad it is to see them celebrate reaching a basic academic accomplishment.
They join U of H this year who also got their Tier 1 ranking. I am actually very happy for U of H. Their new chancellor is quite amazing and she should be commended on what she has accomplished in a few years.
Don't know the answer to that re Gilbert
He seems to really like Texas, so I guess it’s a possibility for him to walk on, but if he’s not good enough to receive a scholarship, then why would he be good enough to ever play? I mean, it would be a nice story for him to have a year with his brother, but other than that I just don’t see him having an impact on the program.
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by Wescott Eberts (GoBR) on Feb 9, 2011 12:45 PM CST up reply actions
Tier 1 status on what?
Just Harsin around.
by burntorangehorn on Feb 9, 2011 1:08 PM CST up reply actions
It is one of the desired levels of academic recognition
I am no expert and only know what I read on the internet based on all the conference re-shuffling last year. Here is a good overview from Univ. of Houston which explains why they are proud to have reached this accomplishment.
http://www.uh.edu/about/tier-one/tier-one-faq/index.php
Being an AAU member is really the highest standard. Reaching Tier 1 level is a good start becomes it means one of the three rating membership organizations recognizes your school’s research and academics as a top tier. (AAU membership is by far the highest/most prestigious.) There are only 64 AAU members. A&M only recently met the criteria and earned membership. Texas has been an AAU member for a long time. All Big 10 schools are AAU members, The SEC has Vanderbilt and Florida. Big 12 had NU, CO, Mizzou, Iowa State, and us. Not sure but maybe KU.
However, this whole AAU membership is what was a key factor in the Big 10 liking NU and why it is a joke for the Aggies to go to less academic conference….however, they are aggies. It is also why Texas is so well liked by all conferences. And, I’m sure a Sooner or two will again call me arrogant. But, the truth is that our school is academically superior by the standards that matter, which is AAU membership. The fact that OU just now got Tier 1 status actually is blowing me away. I’m happy for a school like UofH to get it but I thought OU was at that level long ago, but I guess not. They should be happy, but also embarassed a bit too that it took them this long.
"AAU" would've been a sufficient response
I didn’t know what standard you meant. Among my friends, I’ve always heard the term “research one” instead of “tier one,” like when I’ve been helping my quasi-gf search for professorships.
Just Harsin around.
by burntorangehorn on Feb 9, 2011 3:02 PM CST up reply actions
Ah, carnegie
It’s weird that universities and professional academics consider it such a status, because as I recall, Carnegie specifically says that the intent is not to say that those institutions on the list are necessarily any better than those that are not.
Just Harsin around.
by burntorangehorn on Feb 9, 2011 9:38 PM CST up reply actions
We have been so spoiled
Till lately, we had stars at TE. That’s why it hurts so much now.
Before you criticize someone, walk a mile in their shoes. If they get mad, you're a mile away AND you have their shoes.
He is a good athlete
He would be a good addition at TE/WR specially because if Garret turns out to be a lot better than he was this year it would be good for his little brothers development and confidence. He also plays Basketball, he is no jordan hamilton but he can ball, basketball is a good sports for TE/WR to develop into better players.
no legacies
I don’t think Griffin deserves a scholarship for any reason stated above. He’s not “Texas Good”
Agreed
But judging by Mac not benching Garred at anytime last years even when he should had makes me wonder what kinds of promises were made to his family when they recruited him, his brother might be part of the deal.
by Gabriel Parra on Feb 10, 2011 8:42 AM CST up reply actions
They work with Mark Brown
Whoever said laughter is the best medicine had clearly never tasted Scotch.
haha Douche
Garret and Mack! happy? lol
by Gabriel Parra on Feb 11, 2011 10:41 AM CST up reply actions
According to Hookem.com
Ridgeway is going to visit ($) this weekend.
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by Wescott Eberts (GoBR) on Feb 9, 2011 12:46 PM CST reply actions
No Gimmes here. Sorry.
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No one else likes Ramacher?
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by Wescott Eberts (GoBR) on Feb 9, 2011 3:13 PM CST reply actions
just watched some film...
He looks good but then again it is a highlight tape, but we’ve been so bad at developing TEs in the past that its hard to get excited for new TE during a down year at the position, I thought we should really go after at least one but if Irby can play and has 2 years of eligibility left then I’m starting to switch with the majority and say red shirt McFarland and waiting on offering one for awhile (if anyone at all)…assuming no late developing or OOS studs emerge Ramacher would be a good addition but I’d like to play the field a bit and not just go all in on a borderline talent to fill a future perceived need.
Are there any stud TE’s popping up in the 2013 class that we could take 2 of?
Ridgeway
A guy named Hassan coming out of Mansfield has got to be tough.
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Early Offers?
Scout.com says UT offered Connor Brewer (duh), Mario Edwards, Derek David & Ohio DE Adolphus Washington is that correct and are there any more?
Scout has been wrong about this in the past.
It could be that the coaches are changing their strategy this year, having already offered Brewer over the phone and apparently DJ Humphries as well. I would say of those three, Edwards is probably the most likely to have an offer right now since he isn’t coming in for a Junior Day.
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by Wescott Eberts (GoBR) on Feb 9, 2011 7:38 PM CST up reply actions
Watching the Guyer-Steele championship game on FSN
Saw second half of second quarter, didn’t see Ramacher in the game at all.
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by Wescott Eberts (GoBR) on Feb 9, 2011 10:30 PM CST reply actions
GoBR we're at 87 scholarships?
InsideTexas and OB’s have us at 87 scholarships for 2011, I know we have till August to get it down but is this common with us or does that mean Mack and Co. know something we don’t (and are preparing for spots for transfers like a QB or grades, ect). I just hope we’re not cutting kid’s scholarships like Bama does with all their oversigning, BTW they are over by 10 this year…
I don't think Mack knows anything we don't.
And yeah, it is pretty common. The attrition of two players between now and fall is probably about average. No one is going to be pushed out the door, but there will be a couple kids who sit down with Mack after spring practice and have a serious conversation about their future in the program.
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by Wescott Eberts (GoBR) on Feb 10, 2011 8:56 AM CST up reply actions
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