Selection Sunday Open Thread
by awiggo on Mar 13, 2011 12:52 PM CDT
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PrintThere are a few more tourney championship games today before the bracket is announced.
ACC: Duke vs. North Carolina on ESPN
In my opinion, Duke gets a No. 1 seed with a win. Would be close for Carolina if the Tar Heels prevail.
SEC: Kentucky vs. Florida on ABC
Florida won the SEC East and is shooting up mock seeding list. Both teams will be top four seeds in the NCAA tournament.
Atlantic 10: Dayton vs. Richmond on CBS
Richmond is probably in win or lose. But a Dayton victory would eliminate someone--maybe Colorado or Georgia or Alabama or Boston College or St. Mary's or Virginia Tech.
Big 10: Ohio State vs. Penn State on CBS 2:30 pm Central
Ohio State is your number one overall seed with a win, maybe with a loss too. I've got Penn State in right now but, obviously, a win would clinch it.
NCAA Tournament Seeding: Here are my ‘educated’ guesses at the NCAA tournament seeds.
No. 1 Seeds: Ohio State, Kansas, Pittsburgh, Duke
No. 2 Seeds: Notre Dame, North Carolina, Texas, BYU
No. 3 Seeds: San Diego State, Florida, Connecticut, Purdue
No. 4 Seeds: Wisconsin, Louisville, Syracuse, Kentucky
No. 5 Seeds: St. John’s, Arizona, West Virginia, Texas A&M
No. 6 Seeds: Xavier, Georgetown, Vanderbilt, Kansas State
No. 7 Seeds: Cincinnati, Missouri, Washington, UNLV
No. 8 Seeds: UCLA, Temple, George Mason, Utah State
No. 9 Seeds: Marquette, Florida State, Old Dominon, Tennessee
No. 10 Seeds: Butler, Gonzaga, Richmond, Michigan
No. 11 Seeds: Illinois, Villanova, Colorado, Michigan State
No. 12 Seeds: Memphis, Penn State, Clemson, Va Tech, Alabama, St. Mary’s
Others (in no particular order): Indiana State, Boston U, Belmont, Northern Colorado, UNC Ashville, UC Santa Barbara, Princeton, St. Peter’s, Akron, Hampton, Long Island, Morehead State, Bucknell, Wofford, UT San Antonio, Alabama St, Oakland, and Arkansas-Little Rock. 18 total
Out: Georgia, USC, Boston College, VCU, Missouri St, Harvard, UAB, and UTEP.
Use this as your Sunday open thread for all things college basketball. We'll be back nearer to the Selection Show (CBS, 5 pm CT) with a thread to talk about the brackets.
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Singler is struggling shooting of late though.
They don’t have an inside game so they live an die by the outside shot. I don’t see them winning it all again this year.
Kentucky up 34-29 at half
Young Wildcats were great at home and terrible on the road this season. They might be finally getting it all together.
Plenty of talent. Will be a dangerous team next week.
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Carolina fans sound like
they outnumber Duke fans 2 or 3 to 1. Very loud at ACC championship in Greensboro.
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Tulsa
Andrew, what’s your best guess about Texas being sent to Tulsa for rounds 2-3? I took a risk and bought tickets and scheduled a flight already. Will still go if the Horns are sent elsewhere (I have family in Tulsa), but I am sweating it out until the brackets are announced!
Absolutely
Texas and Kansas should both be in Tulsa. Hard to see a scenario in which that doesn’t happen.
I think you’re fine.
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Can't see how Duke is not a No. 1 seed
RPI of #4 before today. Ken Pom of #2 before today.
Has wins over Princeton, Kansas State, Butler, North Carolina (twice), Michigan State, Clemson, Va Tech, and UAB.
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Agreed
Who do you think Texas gets paired against Duke, Pitt or Ohio St?
My guess is Pitt
And who would you prefer?
I go with Pitt or Duke
I think Texas is a No. 2 seed
But no one seems to agree with me.
I’m not sure we match up well with any of the top seeds. Duke and Pitt have tremendous size. Ohio State is solid everywhere but thin.
I’d say that whomever is out West b/c they’ll have the smallest home court advantage. Maybe Duke and Texas out west. I’d take that.
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I'm hoping we can get New Orleans
And Pitt or Duke because I don’t think they will hurt us in the paint as much just dont want to get paired vs Ohio St
We're a legit 2 seed
It would surprise me if they didn’t give us a 2 with the kind of wins we had and few bad losses. As far as the eye test goes, we are capable of beating any team in the country on a good night.
awiggo, your 1 and 2 seed lines look exactly like I would expect it to be announced. My only change would be Texas as the number 2 overall 2 seed ahead of NC due to our better wins and ACC being weaker this season than the Big 12. Doesn’t matter much though. We will have to play well to get deep this season. So much parity.
I really don’t see ND getting a 1 seed now. Nor do I think they deserve it over the teams listed.
Duke’s performance today was incredible. They will be a tough out if we get matched up in their bracket and end up meeting them. Nolan Smith is a man.
Jared Sullinger
Looks like he’s been on the Dexter Pittman diet from the second half of last season. Could really hurt him come draft time since there’s already plenty of questions about his height, athleticism, and low ceiling. Have to be a hard worker off the court if you’re going to defy all that and his weight gain over the course of the season doesn’t exemplify that at all.
OSU
Assuming OSU wins, I think they are No 1 overall.
I think Texas is the last 2 (8) or first 3 (9) on the S curve: either way, we are in OSU’s bracket.
3-Seed Is Real Possibility
We’re currently ranked #10, that means going into last poll there was broad consensus UT had fallen to the 3-line. Unless our conf tourney performance outshone the teams above and below there is a chance the selection committee shares the same broad assessment and tosses the Horns to 3-seed based on the last few weeks. I’d hate it but won’t be surprised if it happens.
That said I’m ecstatic to be where we’re at after last season’s collapse and look forward to another Sweet Sixteen appearance and maybe more! We’ve got a team that’s shown it can play with and beat anyone, anywhere when they’re on, seed not an issue.
by RMHorn on Mar 13, 2011 3:48 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
Polls and seeding aren't directly correlated
our resume is much stronger than our current #10 ranking
by goingforthecorner on Mar 13, 2011 3:51 PM CDT up reply actions
Exactly. Which is why I'd be very surprised if we're not a 2 seed.
But I’ve seen lots of projected seedings in the last 12 hours that have us as a 3. Guess we’ll have to wait and see.
I’d feel a little more confident about our seeding if we hadn’t lost to Kansas by double digits.
by StanTheCaddy on Mar 13, 2011 4:26 PM CDT up reply actions
Supposed to
Theory and reality don’t always align.
by RMHorn on Mar 13, 2011 4:31 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Selection Committee
How the committee is composed compared to how pollsters are composed is why there’s no sure-fire formula to predict. Both have access to the same stats, rankings, programs before they vote/select.
You’re hoping committee sees what we see about the season as a whole. They may, but put more weight on close than would otherwise.
by RMHorn on Mar 13, 2011 4:39 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Bracketology
FWIW, Lunardi has us as a #3 seed in the West region. I’d actually be happy with this because the #1/2 seeds in this region are Pitt and San Diego St. respectively.
by goingforthecorner on Mar 13, 2011 4:26 PM CDT reply actions
The fact that we've already played them
not like they blew us out. We lost 68-66. Plus, Pitt is notorious for underachieving in the Big Dance. We may not even have to worry about them by the time we’re supposed to play them.
by goingforthecorner on Mar 13, 2011 4:33 PM CDT reply actions
Hubert Davis just said one of the most insightful things on ESPN.
Paraphrasing… “By the time you get to the second round, being a 1, 2, or 3 seed doesn’t really matter because you’re probably going to be playing a team good enough to beat you. We talk about it (seedings) too much.”
Not sure this holds for past seasons, but I think this season that is probably true.
Duke has to be pissed
UNC is a 2 seed in the East region and the Dukies have to travel 3K miles out west.
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Wow.
So much for recency bias not being a factor.
by StanTheCaddy on Mar 13, 2011 5:25 PM CDT up reply actions
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