Texas Longhorns NCAA Tournament Selection Show Open Thread
by Peter Bean on Mar 13, 2011 4:33 PM CDT
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PrintUPDATE: Texas is No. 4 seed in the West regional in Anaheim. They'll get Summit League champs Oakland in round one. Winner gets Arizona-Memphis winner. We got screwed. So, so hard.
UPDATE 2: Set Texas aside: This is the worst, most haphazard bracket I can ever remember. Colorado got absolutely hosed. This bracket is a mess. And a joke.
UPDATE 3: Download your complete pprintable NCAA tournament bracket here. We'll have a tourney pick 'em pool set up soon.
We didn't get the result we wanted yesterday in Kansas City, but the mourning is brief. Today the NCAA Tournament field is announced, and for the 13th consecutive season the Texas Longhorns are going dancing.
Wiggo projects Texas to be a No. 2 seed and I agree. It's not terribly important whether the Longhorns are a No. 2 or No. 3, but the match ups in the regionals will very much matter. Texas matches up better with some teams than others, and I'll be watching to see who we might play and, of course, where we might play.
Assuming Kansas gets the No. 1 in San Antonio, Wiggo's right that the Longhorns are highly unlikely to get slotted there as well. A No. 2 in New Orleans wouldn't surprise me. I know some folks worry about Texas going to Anaheim, but that would suit me -- and the team -- just fine.
We'll break it all down after the brackets are released.
Hook 'em!
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I'm F'ing pumped
I could go for that UT playing WV in the 2nd round. I think Nova might play tough though
Q
Why did CBS bring in Kenny the Jet Smith and Charles Barkley on the last day of the regular season? Haven’t covered college ball all year. Weak.
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Not much different than what Fox used to do with college football
by Hopkins Horn on Mar 13, 2011 4:42 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Exactly
and that failed too.
Barkely just asked about which K State big man needs to play well. How about their pre-season All Big 12 forward, Curtis Kelly? Guard dominated team? Sort of. They are big and long and have a great post player. Horrible analysis.
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As long as TNT...
…doesn’t start producing college games with 632 close-ups of the bands, we’ll be ok.
by Hopkins Horn on Mar 13, 2011 4:50 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Weak, but awesome
Inside the NBA on TNT is one of my favorite sports shows ever. Ernie, Kenny, and Charles are a great team and is often a source of comedy gold.
by goingforthecorner on Mar 13, 2011 4:57 PM CDT up reply actions
Who the hell is worried about us going to Anaheim?
by Hopkins Horn on Mar 13, 2011 4:41 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
Well, they're morons. And I'm standing by that.
Orange County in early spring is a nice place to be.
by Hopkins Horn on Mar 13, 2011 4:43 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Anaheim would not be too bad, could be tricky with SDSU/BYU
But none of the No. 1s will be that huge out here and there are a lot of Longhorn fans in SoCal myself included.
Oh, I'm also going to be "watching" the selection show...
…from the back seat of my car while entertaining the baby. Have no idea how this will work out.
by Hopkins Horn on Mar 13, 2011 4:47 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
Has anybody seen if Rick Barnes has been interviewed on ESPN or CBS?
"I asked Darrell Royal, the coach of the Texas Longhorns, why he didn’t recruit me and he said: "Well, Walt, we took a look at you and you weren’t any good.
- Walt Garrison
by 512 on Mar 13, 2011 4:48 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
Also, I’d like to apologize for losing my cool last night. Had some harsh words for the Morris twins after the game. Just was drunk and wanted to punch the tv when they started doing the “shhhh” sign for an extended period of time. Found it pretty classless. Anyone else notice this?
"I asked Darrell Royal, the coach of the Texas Longhorns, why he didn’t recruit me and he said: "Well, Walt, we took a look at you and you weren’t any good.
- Walt Garrison
by 512 on Mar 13, 2011 4:52 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
San Diego State
long shot No. 1 seed. RPI #3. Would only happen if commitee wants to put a west coast seed on the top line and keep them in Anaheim?
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Mid Majors just dont seem to have a great track record as top seeded teams
Gonzaga and St Joes of the top of my head struggled as top seeds
That's what I'm thinking as well.
by Hopkins Horn on Mar 13, 2011 4:57 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
St. Joes didn't exactly struggle
They lost in OT in the regional finals to the two-seed.
by Hopkins Horn on Mar 13, 2011 4:56 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
I am not sure I am a fan of the 4 play in games
1 was enough, and no one really cared about that one.
Should be interesting having six 12-seeds nows.
Hook 'em
Yeah, no reason other than money
64 teams is the right number.
Last 10 teams in this years’ field will be terrible.
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So how are brackets being run this year?
Every bracket I’ve ever been in has essentially ignored the play-in game.
With “real” teams now involved, will brackets require picking winners for those games? Or will brackets wait for submissions until we’re down to 64?
by Hopkins Horn on Mar 13, 2011 5:03 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
An awesome improvement in the tourney is the staggering of the games by 15min each.
This should be a neat tweak.
"I asked Darrell Royal, the coach of the Texas Longhorns, why he didn’t recruit me and he said: "Well, Walt, we took a look at you and you weren’t any good.
- Walt Garrison
by 512 on Mar 13, 2011 5:00 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
Surprised
that there is so much consensus that Ohio State is clearly better than Kansas. Same record. Both won conference and conference tourney.
KU lost to K State and Texas.
Ohio St lost to Purdue and Wisconsin.
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Great question
I would rather play Pitt personally.
Duke has coach K and tourney experience.
Pitt has a history of not living up to their seed.
Hook 'em
Duke almost always
Shoots lights out against us, but we beat the shit out of them physically when we played them a few years back and should have had a good chance to win if not for a typical Duke phantom foul call on Damion James. Pitt’s safer because we know we can hang with them and they don’t have a chance of adding the best player in the country to their roster halfway through the tournament…
I don't think I've seen anyone predict we'll be on Newark
Just saying. 8-9 on the S-Curve is reasonable.
by Hopkins Horn on Mar 13, 2011 5:08 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
East Region
1. Ohio State
16. UTSA or Alabama St
8. George Mason
9. Villanova
5. West Va
12. UAB or Clemson
4. Kentucky
13. Princeton
--AW--
East Pt 2
No. 2 North Carolina
15 Long Island
7. Washington
10. Georgia
3 Syracuse
14. Indiana St
6. Xavier
11. Marquette
--AW--
UAB
won Conference USA regular season title. Wouldn’t be surprised if they get 3 teams in.
by LonghornLostinLA on Mar 13, 2011 5:15 PM CDT reply actions
We'll see.
If Georgia and Marquette got in then nothing will surprise me.
"Can you count suckas?!"
by LonghornLostInMiami on Mar 13, 2011 5:16 PM CDT up reply actions
We should be above them
ND and SDSU will also get 2s and I imagine UConn will get a 2 since they beat us.
Hook 'em
Marquette adn Xavier pretty evenly matched...
How is Marquette below Georgia?
68 teams this year
Including 4 play in games.
the last 4 at-large bids play eachother for that 12 seed.
Hook 'em
This commercial
does not make me want to purchase Dove
"Can you count suckas?!"
by LonghornLostInMiami on Mar 13, 2011 5:18 PM CDT reply actions
Michigan sucks.
"Can you count suckas?!"
by LonghornLostInMiami on Mar 13, 2011 5:19 PM CDT reply actions
A Fuckin 4 seed!!!!???? Really
"I asked Darrell Royal, the coach of the Texas Longhorns, why he didn’t recruit me and he said: "Well, Walt, we took a look at you and you weren’t any good.
- Walt Garrison
by 512 on Mar 13, 2011 5:20 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
A #4 seed?! are you f'ng kidding me?!
"Can you count suckas?!"
by LonghornLostInMiami on Mar 13, 2011 5:20 PM CDT reply actions
AGREED.
"Can you count suckas?!"
by LonghornLostInMiami on Mar 13, 2011 5:22 PM CDT up reply actions
Penn State?!
"Can you count suckas?!"
by LonghornLostInMiami on Mar 13, 2011 5:21 PM CDT reply actions
Guess the tournament rewarded teams the played well at the end
you know that great nonconference schedule we had? Not so valuable as we thought.
by goingforthecorner on Mar 13, 2011 5:21 PM CDT reply actions
Got f$cked
Now at best we get Duke in Sweet 16.
West Pt 2
2. San Diego St
15. No. Colorado
7. Temple
10. Penn State
3. UConn
14. Bucknell
6. Cincinnati
11. Missouri
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I bet Illinois is out
Sense they may have played their way out.
Well, I WAS going to do the happy dance if we wound up in Anaheim
by Hopkins Horn on Mar 13, 2011 5:23 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
Looks like Big 12 is getting down graded
The rest of the bracket looks weak tho…
Chip is now officially on our shoulder
I like that to boost our effort
I have no words
Don’t understand.
Oakland is solid. Pac 10 champ in round 2 and a 4 seed. A lot wrong with our draw.
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At least we match up well
With AZ. Still embarrassing from the committee though. Jesus even if you look at RPI we aren’t that LOW.
Notice that didn't show the Texas team?
Let JCB give our response. heh
Still Tulsa, right? I'm still in the car
by Hopkins Horn on Mar 13, 2011 5:25 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
You know your seeding is unjustified
when your POMEROY RANKING (#4) matches your seed.
by goingforthecorner on Mar 13, 2011 5:26 PM CDT reply actions
Tulsa isn't even that great of a draw.
There are not a lot of people in Oklahoma that like Texas…
Hook 'em
haven't read all the way down
KU is also in Tulsa on the same day. Their fans will be in te seats and rooting against UT, no?
by littlevisigoth on Mar 13, 2011 8:10 PM CDT up reply actions
Anyone
Gonna be able to find an explanation from this lousy draw from the pathetic committee?
No 2001 repeat, please
The last time I remember this bad a screwing, and we responded by not even showing up against Temple in the first round.
by Hopkins Horn on Mar 13, 2011 5:27 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
Wow.
I mean north Carolina had same record and number of losses at 7 and they get a 2 seed. The ACC was even weaker than the big 12. Fuck I’m pissed!
Illinois?! They suck!
"Can you count suckas?!"
by LonghornLostInMiami on Mar 13, 2011 5:28 PM CDT reply actions
Being in Pac 10 country... Arizona is not that impressive they have one guy
Not sure they have much of a post threat
Oh totally agree... just not that worried about 2nd round
2nd and 4th round look easy… 1st and 3rd will be very difficult
Southwest
1. Kansas
16. Boston U
8. UNLV
9. Illinois
5. Vanderbilt
12. Richmond
4. Louisville
13. Morehead St.
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Some prett questionable decisions thus far.
"Hey, don't y'all think that's beautiful right there? That crystal is SO beautiful. And it's coming home to Texas." - Vince Young
Just Think
3 weeks ago looking at number 1 in SA. I know we got screwed – but we gotta stop limping to finish.
Note to Bill Byrne "Because you aren´t Texas and you´ll never be Texas"
by realmccoy on Mar 13, 2011 5:29 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
Just Think
3 weeks ago looking at number 1 in SA. I know we got screwed – but we gotta stop limping to finish.
Note to Bill Byrne "Because you aren´t Texas and you´ll never be Texas"
by realmccoy on Mar 13, 2011 5:29 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
We can get busy being "positive" later in the week. Reality is we got fucked with a 4seed in the West. Absolute HORSESHIT!
"I asked Darrell Royal, the coach of the Texas Longhorns, why he didn’t recruit me and he said: "Well, Walt, we took a look at you and you weren’t any good.
- Walt Garrison
by 512 on Mar 13, 2011 5:29 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
Also reality
We lost like 4 of last 8. We are not playing well. We Rick has to figure that out.
Note to Bill Byrne "Because you aren´t Texas and you´ll never be Texas"
by realmccoy on Mar 13, 2011 5:35 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Florida State with a 10? Really?
"Can you count suckas?!"
by LonghornLostInMiami on Mar 13, 2011 5:29 PM CDT reply actions
Southwest Pt 2
2. Notre Dame
15. Akron
7. Texas A&M
10. Florida State
3. Purdue
14. St. Peter’s
6. Georgetown
11. USC or VCU
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Damn, that's a pretty tough one.
"Hey, don't y'all think that's beautiful right there? That crystal is SO beautiful. And it's coming home to Texas." - Vince Young
Clearly
Selection committee is not a fan of the big 12
They love them some Big east though.
Hook 'em
Bubble
USC and VCU in. Georgia and Clemson in.
Va Tech might be out. Boston College has to be out. Alabama is prob out.
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Still thinking this is a joke.
I’m not the type to bitch with the “woe is us” thing, but this really doesn’t make sense. Unreal.
by Infield Elephant on Mar 13, 2011 5:31 PM CDT reply actions
Seriously why play a tough non conference schedule
Purdue and Syracuse take cake walks
Even though we played a number of great teams in the nonconference
our nonconf SOS according to Pomeroy is only #88. It’s because our cupcakes were absolutely horrible.
by goingforthecorner on Mar 13, 2011 5:34 PM CDT up reply actions
It's pretty clear
they LOVE the Big Ten and don’t love the Big XII.
UNC is a No. 2?
How? Put their resume side by side with Texas and explain how that’s possible. Good grief.
You ain't hurt...
Recency bias as a factor.
We’d all like to think this doesn’t play a role in tournament seedings, but that’s the only thing I can think worked against us and in UNC’s favor. UNC got hot at the right time and we fell off the radar with that bad stretch where we dropped 3 of our last 5 games.
by StanTheCaddy on Mar 13, 2011 5:36 PM CDT up reply actions
Quick Oakland scouting report
http://kenpom.com/team.php?team=Oakland
Ranked #69 overall in Pomeroy, #14 offense, #200 defense, #7 tempo
Interesting. Seems we’ll have to slow down the tempo if we want to make them uncomfortable.
Really good offense – concerning for us given our recent defensive struggles.
They are #3 nationally in eFG%, while we are #1 in eFG% against. How the hell is this a first round matchup!?
by goingforthecorner on Mar 13, 2011 5:32 PM CDT reply actions
Colorado is likely out
Too many teams that I had out are already in.
St. mary’s is prob out too. And Alabama. And Va Tech
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Anyone
Want to start a fund to pay this committee to explain this to us…if we buy what they say, I will give them my salary for a year!
There is -32223123123123% logic here
Colorado is in trouble
So are the ACC bubble teams
I'm not sure
I’ve seen anything quite as shocking as VCU getting in.
Purdue?
Apparently only the end of the season matters except the conference tourneys. Fuck the “committee”. You can ass raped by crappy Michigan state team and it doesnt matter.
Perhaps
this is residual punishment for last season.
by Infield Elephant on Mar 13, 2011 5:34 PM CDT reply actions
I agree.
I think they are asking Rick barnes to prove himself because of some of his flameouts in years past.
Exactly what I thought!
In Mack Brown We Trust!
My father
just said the same thing LOL
"Can you count suckas?!"
by LonghornLostInMiami on Mar 13, 2011 5:36 PM CDT up reply actions
K-State a 5...
"Can you count suckas?!"
by LonghornLostInMiami on Mar 13, 2011 5:36 PM CDT reply actions
I'm still ticked off about Purdue
Al McGuire used to talk about entering the tourney on an up tick. Guess the Nebraska and Colorado losses hurt more than the good stuff over UNC and some of the Big East efforts. If we can get past Oakland, this might not set up too bad – I’d love a chance to knock off the Dukies out on the west coast – away from their comfort zone.
Southeast
1. Pitt
16. UNC Ashville / Ark Little Rock
8. Butler
9. Old Dominion
5. Kansas St
12. Utah St
4. Wisconsin
13. Belmont
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K-State- a 5seed? WOW! Are these motherfuckers high?
"I asked Darrell Royal, the coach of the Texas Longhorns, why he didn’t recruit me and he said: "Well, Walt, we took a look at you and you weren’t any good.
- Walt Garrison
by 512 on Mar 13, 2011 5:37 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
Florida is a 2???
"Can you count suckas?!"
by LonghornLostInMiami on Mar 13, 2011 5:37 PM CDT reply actions
Michigan State got in?!?
"Can you count suckas?!"
by LonghornLostInMiami on Mar 13, 2011 5:37 PM CDT reply actions
Seriously waited the last 6 regular season games...
That was all they looked at
Florida-a2seed????!!!!!!! Man, fuck basketball.
"I asked Darrell Royal, the coach of the Texas Longhorns, why he didn’t recruit me and he said: "Well, Walt, we took a look at you and you weren’t any good.
- Walt Garrison
by 512 on Mar 13, 2011 5:38 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
Southeast Pt 2
2 Florida
15. UC Santa Barbara
7. UCLA
10. Mich State
3. BYU
14. Wofford
6. St. John’s
11.Gonzaga
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Florida is a 2 seed!?!?
"Hey, don't y'all think that's beautiful right there? That crystal is SO beautiful. And it's coming home to Texas." - Vince Young
I agree with Charles
Pitt shouldrun through this region
Frankly that's Va Tech's problem
Win games you should win
IF you can't get into this tournament with 68 teams
you didn’t do enough.
Colorado may have a legitimate gripe, but they clearly could have done more.
Florida is going to probably get a very good UCLA team in the 2nd round.
If that’s any consolation for those outraged by the absurdity of their 2 seed.
My Hotel TV is messed up...
It just showed us as a 4, KSU as a 5, and Florida as a 2…
When does the real bracket come out?
Yeah, it's just a technical malfunction.
Just keep hitting refresh, slap the side of the TV…
by Infield Elephant on Mar 13, 2011 5:42 PM CDT up reply actions
Colorado got royally fucked.
"I asked Darrell Royal, the coach of the Texas Longhorns, why he didn’t recruit me and he said: "Well, Walt, we took a look at you and you weren’t any good.
- Walt Garrison
by 512 on Mar 13, 2011 5:40 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
So we are equals
to Kentucky, Louisville, & Wisconsin.
by Infield Elephant on Mar 13, 2011 5:41 PM CDT reply actions
Weirdest bracket ever
Does the committee know that Florida actually lost earlier today and the SEC was terrible this year. Only slightly better than Pac 10
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They are really looking at RPI
7th in RPI, 11-3 against RPI top 50.
I’m not saying that’s a valid measure, it clearly isn’t, but they are using it more heavily than most people think.
LMAO Big XII gets 5 teams, same number as the SEC
un-freakin-real
by goingforthecorner on Mar 13, 2011 5:41 PM CDT reply actions
So, how many teams did big 12 get in?
"I asked Darrell Royal, the coach of the Texas Longhorns, why he didn’t recruit me and he said: "Well, Walt, we took a look at you and you weren’t any good.
- Walt Garrison
by 512 on Mar 13, 2011 5:42 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
Mich St. in the second round
Mich st. beat them as a 10 seed a couple years ago if I remember correctly.
Hook 'em
Tampa's nice
but last time they were a 2 there, they got torqued in the 2nd round by Michigan State.
Think I got 64/68
Probably the same as Lunardi and he does this for a living.
Missed Colorado, St. Mary’s, Alabama, and Va Tech.
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Feel bad for Colorado
Alec Burks is the best player on the court is most games. Would have been fun to see him play again.
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Burkes is a monster
I’ll cheer for him in the NBA. He’s a phenomenal talent. Jesus. Swept freaking KSU and they can’t get in. Wow.
Thanks guys
It really, really sucks. Such crap.
The Ralphie Report - University of Colorado Athletics
SB Nation Denver
Pitt has an absolute joke of a bracket IMO
Other than a potentially awkward matchup with KSU in the SS.
Literally the worst bracket I can remember
You ain't hurt...
by Peter Bean on Mar 13, 2011 5:45 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Agreed
Just doesn’t make a lot of sense.
All about Feb and March? Did November – January not really happen?
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but Teams like Colorado
Don’t get credited for winning down the stretch and in conference.
Makes 0 sense to me.
Hook 'em
HILARIOUS!
"Can you count suckas?!"
by LonghornLostInMiami on Mar 13, 2011 5:47 PM CDT up reply actions
I never spend much time whining about the brackets
And I’m totally dumbfounded. What a bunch of clowns.
You ain't hurt...
I see how they chose the teams
They used a “Nitty Gritty” sheet. Then they wipe themselves with it.
- follow me @ http:/twitter.com/TXStampede
I'm interested in these 15 factors they used
and why the hell is “style of play” a factor
by goingforthecorner on Mar 13, 2011 5:51 PM CDT up reply actions
What is this 'regional advisory committee'?
Moreso, who is on that committee?
Just hope the boys take this and give active instead of wallowing
Anger is alright but put it to good use
Bilas
Is dismantling the committee right now. Just said they “were going against their own principles” and that the only way it makes sense is if they are punishing major conference schools for not being better this year. “Trying to send a message.”
Teams not getting in have never really bothered me
If you can’t separate yourself from the bubble, then you leave it up to a committee. That’s your problem.
I know Oakland is no gimme and I know they gave MSU all it wanted at home
How does Texas match up against them? Or has anyone gotten that far yet? I maybe only 30, but this seriously maybe the worst bracket I can ever remember.
A gun rack... a gun rack. I don't even own *a* gun, let alone many guns that would necessitate an entire rack. What am I gonna do... with a gun rack?
Great offense
Really crap defense. Good big man.
I think its a decent match up for us. But, will be tough.
Hook 'em
Concerning
our defense has tailed off lately and Oakland is an absolute elite offense. They get to the line, make free throws over 70%, solid perimeter shooting team, good offensive rebounding. They have a 6’11" big man Keith Benson that could be tough to guard if TT gets into foul trouble. Hill/Wingman have to help contain him.
The only aspects they struggle at is forcing turnovers, and allowing teams to make threes at a high rate. There is no doubt Hamilton, Brown, and Joseph will have to step up offensively and make shots, or else we are doomed.
Oakland is a huge challenge that we had no business facing in the very 1st game. I’m pissed.
by goingforthecorner on Mar 13, 2011 5:57 PM CDT up reply actions
Shoot
I forgot Oakland was the team Benson plays for. Hooray for stacking us up against the guy the NBA keeps salivating over seemingly every NBA draft…
nbadraft.net mock
has Benson going #32 to the Heat (TT #18, Hammy #21)
by goingforthecorner on Mar 13, 2011 6:08 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah
He’s been dropping each year as he gets older, if that’s what you are saying? Still I don’t think 32 is bad at all for a guy from Oakland.
I feel like all those nights stressing out
was kind of pointless.
"Can you count suckas?!"
by LonghornLostInMiami on Mar 13, 2011 5:51 PM CDT reply actions
I hope we come out fucking jacked
I can see Covan and Hamilton being so pissed about this. Hopefully they come out and just eradicate cats. I so want to see us knock Derrick Williams out of the top 10 of the NBA draft and just beat the living shit out of Duke in the Sweet Sixteen. I want us to come out ANGRY.
If they are as angry...
…as I am, then we’re going to stroll into the matchup against Duke.
I had talked myself into accepting a 3-seed, but this is just absolutely ridiculous.
Duke better PRAY
Kyrie is ready to go, because Nolan Smith is going to be getting his ass thrown on the floor all night long by Gary, Tristan, and Hill. And that’s WHEN he’s lucky enough to get past Doge locking him down up and down the court. We are going to be ready.
duke
If we give up wide open threes, like yesterdays game, then we are in trouble. I do not understand why we over-help on defense sometimes. We were even so far away that we couldn’t run KU guys off the line on their three point attempts. Also, how can Jordan possibly get so lost on defense, he gives up almost as much as he scores it seems like. We need to be pissed about how we have been playing, not what seed we are.
Won't be nearly as much of a problem with
Duke as it was with KU, because Duke has nobody inside remotely close to the Morri or Robinson in offensive talent or ability. Nolan Smith is the only guy (if Kyrie is out) that can break down a defense for them and Doge will be on him like white on rice all game long. Plus K seems like a guy who wouldn’t sag in the lane on Balbay, so it’s much less of a detriment offensively.
KU guards
have nobody who can create their own shot though. I would take the Duke guards over KU guards any day. But I agree about the twins, I love the match up for us with Duke but I don’t understand why we help so much on defense. Did KU even need to take a contested outside shot yesertday. Those threes were so wide open.
We have to double on the Morri
They’re unstoppable one on one. But I wish we’d more of swipe with our guards instead of helping off completely. I know we don’t like doubling on principle, but when our defense breaks down, man does it break down…
offensive end
What about pushing the rock more and getting more up tempo on offense? I always hear Barnes talk about patience and execution on offense but I feel like we stall out sometimes. Nobody in the country runs the floor better than Tristan, Gary can get up and down. Corey is always looking ahead to push the rock. I think a more up tempo approach could pay off but what do i know.
Couldn't agree more
I call for it every single game, but then we have guys like Johnson who grab a rebound, stare around into space for a few seconds, pick their noses, take a deep breath, and finally outlet the ball. That’s a big problem with our team on the fast break; too long to outlet the ball.
But yeah, guys like Tristan, Doge, Hamilton, and Cory are great in transition.
Yeah
assuming we can overcome the pro-Duke officiating that will let them go to the foul line every time they drive the lane. there is no way the NCAA is going to let us play Big XII ball in the tournament against a legacy ACC team. No. Way.
by chilimilkjones on Mar 13, 2011 7:19 PM CDT up reply actions
The West
I kind of like our draw to be honest. I don’t really care about the over regions, I think a Duke, SDSU, and UCONN path isn’t horrible by any means.
I agree with this
The seed may not be great, but UConn shot their wad, SDSU has never won a tourney game, and Duke’s the weakest 1.
I agree with you...
get past 1st round and this doesn’t set up too bad. We know UConn can be had and we could come up a “sleeper” against Duke. Could be semi-home for SDSU, who could be toughest draw, should we get them.
Total BS
A four seed?!?!?! WTF? How does UNC and Florida get a #2???
Committee should
have to justify their decisons. Give fans a better understanding. Transparency would help. A lot.
--AW--
Last 10 games and RPI
That’s what they used—unless you were a Big Ten team.
Colorado, Bama being out
the biggest story right now. Texas #4 v. Florida #2 the next.
by Infield Elephant on Mar 13, 2011 5:53 PM CDT reply actions
Big 12 gets no love
Colorado should be in: beat Texas late, beat KSU three times, and had a tough loss to Kansas in its last game.
Texas as the 13th best team — when Florida is a 2 seed! — is insane.
We have a legitimate opponent in the first round, the Pac 10 champ in the second, and the ACC champion/1 seed Duke in the third. . . . Yikes.
Given where we started this season...
As a young unproven team and how well we played in the underdog role…in a lot of ways this is perfect for THIS Texas team…bunker mentality…The Longhorns are in the Tournament…I would venture to say that Arizona and Duke are just as pissed that we are a 4 seed…my two cents
Disagree, I think this is fucking horrible
“Bunker mentality…”. Would you really want Jordan Hamilton or J’Covan Brown to be next to you in a bunker? Not me. We’re not the most mentally tough team out there, and Oakland could easily exploit that if they catch fire.
So their defensive numbers are horrible. Who cares? Our starting PG is a total non-factor on offense and our guards are inconsistent. Colorado was a horrible defensive team and they beat us.
by goingforthecorner on Mar 13, 2011 6:03 PM CDT up reply actions
Exactly...
This team isn’t mentality tough…there was zero expectation to win in Lawrence and they banded together and came out on top. They relish the underdog role and didn’t do as well as the favorite in a lot of their games this year.
We're not in that role though
we’re the 4 seed, they’re the 13 seed. How can we possibly take an underdog role in this?
by goingforthecorner on Mar 13, 2011 6:15 PM CDT up reply actions
Specifically, no we are not
But bracket wise and overall…we got disrespected…the Horns will be ready to play come Friday. 5 days off and all this low seed talk is just what they need!
Sorry if this has already been asked
but has the BON pool set up yet?
Hopefully the Horns go to work
on the field with a pair of pliers and a blowtorch.
"Can you count suckas?!"
by LonghornLostInMiami on Mar 13, 2011 5:56 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
The committee should be fucking ashamed of themselves
I wish I could play little league now... I'd kick some fuckin' ass.
Highly doubt a single member on that committee has heard of "Pomeroy"
by goingforthecorner on Mar 13, 2011 6:01 PM CDT up reply actions
I like Pomeroy a lot
but he would have Illinois and Belmont as 5 seeds.
With all due respect, how many coaches are "bracketologists" or guys on this blog?
If that’s the criteria, then let’s just use coaches poll rankings.
Polls are about "what have you done lately though."
And they are done by guys who are still in the game, and obviously highly invested in it. Former coaches would be less invested and would be required to take a holistic view, not a fucking mercury rating.
"rewarded for playing people"
Odd, I thought the idea was to beat people.
ESPN has some moronic commentators.
Committee Members
Hope to hear from someone today. Just some kind of rationale.
NCAA Tourney Committee
by Infield Elephant on Mar 13, 2011 6:03 PM CDT reply actions
well that sucked
I’m gonna go back to watching the X-Files season 1. Good luck to the Horns!
Who are you?!
I'm Kick Ass!
Bulletin Board Material
I was as shocked as everyone else here but I hope our guys can use it as fuel and ride it through to the Elite Eight.
I like our bracket and am glad we got put in with Duke. Regardless of how ridiculous the seedings are, I think it sets up pretty well for us all things considered.
Agreed, that it's the not top 3 seeds that a problem.
If UT had been a 2, SDSU a 3, and UConn a 4, there would be giddiness.
The problem is that there is no 15 seed and much more difficult 5-seed to play.
Above anything selection is no different from officiating...
They never always get it right but at least be consistent and there is no consistency at all!
Missed parts of the show
Bilas was just now ranting that a certain team got in that had no business being in there at all. Who was it?
by goingforthecorner on Mar 13, 2011 6:06 PM CDT reply actions
Have to wonder..
What seed do we get if we beat Kansas? Again. All the way to a No. 3 seed. Still behind Florida? Give me a break.
--AW--
Who knows?
With no apparent guiding principle for the bracket, it’s impossible to say.
You ain't hurt...
From official site:
NCAA DIVISION I MEN’S BASKETBALL CHAMPIONSHIP
PRINCIPLES AND PROCEDURES FOR ESTABLISHING THE BRACKET
Some light reading for your enjoyment.
by Infield Elephant on Mar 13, 2011 6:08 PM CDT reply actions
Thanks. I'll print it out. Save me a trip to the store for 8-pk Charmin.
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Just trying to find out where the hell this came from.
by Infield Elephant on Mar 13, 2011 6:10 PM CDT up reply actions
Oakland
18-1 in last 19 games
They have played (and lost) to some decent teams: WVU, Purdue, Illinois, MSU, Michigan, and OSU . . . they will NOT be awed to be on the same court as Texas.
And we play them out West.
Texas was heavily penalized for late losses.
Terrible draw
Arizona is an extremely tough match up, as well. We got an incredibly tough draw.
You ain't hurt...
I like our matchup with AZ
Thompson and Johnson can both handle Williams’ speed-based inside-out game and their other players are hot and cold. It’s bullshit that we have to play them in the second round, but I don’t think they are a tough matchup from when I’ve seen them play. Williams is the only guy on the team that averages double figures.
Arizona is a one man show on offense.
That has been the knock on them the whole season. But we’ve had trouble shutting down individual players on opposing teams when they’ve been forced to take over the game.
by StanTheCaddy on Mar 13, 2011 6:14 PM CDT up reply actions
But the good thing is...
Williams is a forward compared to the guards (e.g. kemba walker, pullen, buried etc…) that has torched us.
Even better is that Williams is a not a big bruiser but more of a perimeter forward. I really think GJ can guard Williams and is a good match up size wise for him.
by jtdoes on Mar 13, 2011 6:23 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
If we lose to Oakland it would be our worst loss of the season
according to KenPom stats.
Take a look
At VCU’s wins/losses and I DARE you to not laugh a little bit. Like half their conference games are freaking L’s.
Bilas:
“I wonder if the committee knows the ball is round…”
by Infield Elephant on Mar 13, 2011 6:10 PM CDT reply actions
Me watching ESPN right now
Whoever said laughter is the best medicine had clearly never tasted Scotch.
Took my contacts out after a long day.
Whoever said laughter is the best medicine had clearly never tasted Scotch.
Bilas is dripping so much sarcasm it's hilarious
Dicky V just recommended him to be the committee chair lol.
TEXAS to the West, YES!!
Got tickets for the west region for my bday a few weeks ago and can’t believe Texas and Duke fell in there.
We definitely got screwed with our 4 seed but I think our guys will be pissed from the disrespect and be a dark horse. I really think we can beat Arizona and take down Duke in the Sweet 16.
by jtdoes on Mar 13, 2011 6:16 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
He's been pro-Texas all year
will probably say we got hosed
by goingforthecorner on Mar 13, 2011 6:17 PM CDT up reply actions
H. Davis and Gottlieb have been high on Texas all season long on ESPN's coverage.
Interesting to hear what they have to say.
by StanTheCaddy on Mar 13, 2011 6:17 PM CDT up reply actions
LonghornRdTrip Ryan Clark
SI’s @aglock points out that Dan Beebe was on cmte, but could not vote in any discussions involving B12 teams. That really hurt CU & seeds.
by goingforthecorner on Mar 13, 2011 6:19 PM CDT reply actions
Conference commissioners on committee can't discuss/vote their conference teams.
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He said
They found out exactly how to schedule certain teams to inflate their RPI/SOS without actually having to win games or something to that effect. Almost like there is some secret formula that they found.
As
Gottlieb says, “Congratulations, you scheduled a game at Duke and got blown out. That doesn’t im-PRESS me.”
UAB and VCU getting in seems like a lazy move
They have decent RPI, and it seems like the Committee just decided to throw them in over CU and Va Tech because they have better numbers….
Hook 'em
Might have been token midmajor schools
with the field being so bad, they probably felt they could sneak in a few extra midmajors
by goingforthecorner on Mar 13, 2011 6:22 PM CDT up reply actions
I guess
But even that is not acceptable criteria.
If a team gets in because they are “mid-major” and not because they are a ’better team" then the whole system is flawed.
Hook 'em
Oakland
http://kenpom.com/team.php?team=Oakland
Have gone from 7-8 to 25-9.
6-11 and 6-9 on the frontline but small in the backcourt.
Shoot the lights out, good on offensive glass, play quickly.
Not good on the defense end at all. Don’t defend the three ball wel..
Texas will need to slow them down and control the defensive glass. Oh yeah, and Tristan Thompson will need to play more than 11 min.
--AW--
Just saw on Twitter:
“Oakland hasn’t played a top 115 RPI team since DECEMBER 23rd.”
by goingforthecorner on Mar 13, 2011 6:23 PM CDT reply actions
Why? Why? Why?
Will one of those weasels come forward and explain this bizarre seeding? It’s not just us.
Before you criticize someone, walk a mile in their shoes. If they get mad, you're a mile away AND you have their shoes.
Every single analyst on ESPN is dumbfounded.
Never remember seeing anything like this in years past.
Nope
There’s usually a lot of “Good job. Only a few gripes here and there.”
This is crazy.
You ain't hurt...
Can we just get rid of the RPI already
by goingforthecorner on Mar 13, 2011 6:27 PM CDT reply actions
agree
The RPI is a joke. Your opponents’ opponents’ winning percentage is calculated into all this crap. All these stats like being 3-1 vs AP top 50 or 1-2 vs AP top 50, the 3-1 could mean beating the # 35, 42 and 48 ranked teams and that 1-2 could mean beating the #15 ranked and losing to #4 and #18. Too much grip about stats and seeds really. If you can’t beat Oakland, Arizona, etc, then why do we deserve to be an Elight 8 or Final Four team.
Is ESPN broadcasting the tourney this year or is it CBS?
I keep thinking we may have gotten screwed for signing this long-term deal with ESPN and maybe rubbed the NCAA the wrong way.
Probably a dumb conspiracy theory…but wow, I am shocked with a 4 seed.
So, perhaps the selection committee leaned to the CBS view
over the ESPN view, for whatever reason.
There is a certain irrationality here.
ESPN is BCS
Which will be the only critch the BCS has to stay around
Is ESPN broadcasting the tourney this year or is it CBS?
I keep thinking we may have gotten screwed for signing this long-term deal with ESPN and maybe rubbed the NCAA the wrong way.
Probably a dumb conspiracy theory…but wow, I am shocked with a 4 seed.
Florida as a 2!
They lose today by 16 to Kentucky, which is then made a 4 seed.
wtf?
I'll say it again
Pomeroy ranks us as the 4th best team in the entire country, and yet the committee has us as a 4 SEED.
by goingforthecorner on Mar 13, 2011 6:34 PM CDT reply actions
Selection committee must be motivated by something other than we think
The seeding seems ridiculously low for a team that has wins against a #1 seed and a #2 seed, and lost a squeaker to another #1 seed. That said, we do have 7 losses, with 4 of them in the last 4 weeks, and 3 of them to teams that we could have beat with some attention to defense. Maybe this show of low esteem for the Horns from the committee can be used to inspire them to play more like they did midseason, when they were everybody’s darling. I would like to see the January defense return for the NCAA tourney.
By the way, how did the players like being shhh’d by KU at the end of the game? Did they like this afternoon’s disrespect from the committee any better? Do they have the huevos to do something on the court about it? I would love to see it against Oakland. This is no time to take the chip off the shoulder.
Hook ’em.
by BurntOrange&Blue on Mar 13, 2011 6:38 PM CDT reply actions
read this on shaggy
“CONSPIRACY THEORY ALERT -
The NCAA is jobbing major conference teams in an attempt to get support for a further expansion of the tournament field."
All about the money
by goingforthecorner on Mar 13, 2011 6:41 PM CDT reply actions
Bulletin board
Hopefully Barnes is using all of this “we got hosed w/ the 4 seed” talk to piss off the guys and we go bangbusters in the tourney
by jtdoes on Mar 13, 2011 6:41 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
Florida as a 2 seed is making my head spin
Sagarin has them ranked at 18, KenPom has them at 16. Do the math and that’s a 4 or 5 seed.
Meanwhile, Sagarin has Texas ranked at 7. KenPom has them at 4. Which is a 1 or 2 seed.
This is an all-world screwing of the burnt orange.
Watch out, I bite.
by EddieTheAlbinoSquirrel on Mar 13, 2011 6:43 PM CDT reply actions
Not to mention if you ever watch Florida play live, they are worse than their record...
they are terrible. The SEC is terrible in general. Kentucky is the only decent team in that conference and they aren’t great.
We got screwed
I actually thought Bilas was going to storm out of the studio. Florida got but raped on national television, purdue is the most overrated team ever- they got killed by msu who we destroyed on the road, we beat NC on the road, sagarin 7, kenpom 4… how did this happen!!
but I actually dont mind our region, we can win every one of those games; Oakland is good but no defense, Arizona is good but not great, duke’s interior play is weak and they can’t match up with us but nolan smith kinda scares, sdsu i think is a fraud just like byu- they have played no one, and uconn is going to be dead tired.
If we come out motivated and play hard with a chip on our shoulder the final four is definately possible. I
Oakland
Is not a easy game for us…. but I think if we can survive the first weekend, our road to the final four (Duke, SDSU/UCONN) is definitely doable.
by jtdoes on Mar 13, 2011 7:03 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
Compare us to Florida
We play Oakland, Pac 10 champ, ACC champ/1 seed.
Florida gets UCSB, UCLA (or MSU), and BYU which is now a non-entity.
Florida
“that seed stinks.” Nice. Nice.
"Can you count suckas?!"
by LonghornLostInMiami on Mar 13, 2011 7:08 PM CDT reply actions
Two schools that got screwed harder than us = Utah St and Belmont
Utah St sports a record of 30-3 (WAC conference) with a KenPom rating of #17 and they sit on the 12 line facing KSU in the 1st round.
Belmont has a record 30-4 (ASU conference) with a KenPom rating of #19 and they sit on the 13 line facing Wisconsin in the 1st round.
So, I guess it could be worse for us.
Other than that..if you swap the placement of TX (#4) and Florida (#2)
the brackets looks fairly reasonable.
If you ask me, I think the NCAA selection committee felt they needed Florida to make it far in the SouthEast bracket to sell game tickets. So they gifted them a 2 seed. There are very few , if any, teams in the SE that will sell tickets in that region.
College basketball
Game suffers more several reasons. Players leaving early being #1.
You just don’t have the names in the game as in years go by.
Add idiots filling out the brackets and questionable seedings. This won’t help.
Florida as a 2 is inexcusable.
by thirtyand0 on Mar 13, 2011 7:35 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
Shouldn't Kentucky be just as angry as us?
They motor boated Florida in the SEC Championship and got stuck with a 4 seed
Keith Benson
Saw him play against KU last year when Oakland played at KU. He totally outplayed Cole Aldrich (20 pts to Cole’s 4 pts). He sure looked like the real deal. That said, KU won by 30.
If I recall correctly, Benson is not a wide-body though he’s no twig. Point is that I can definitely see Thompson outmuscling Benson inside.
I expect a double-digit victory for UT here.
CONSPIRACY THEORY
CBS owns the rights to the NCAA tourney, they also own the rights to SEC football. Florida gets easy seed.
Texas signs sweetheart deal with CBS rival, gets screwed with a crazy hard seed.
COINCIDENCE? I THINK NOT.
Oakland Basketball All-Access Video
Here’s a great video that gives some insight on the Oakland basketball team…
should be an interesting matchup…
Oakland University is NOT from California!
They are from Michigan. This day screws with my mind even more….
The Horns got hosed
Colorado got hosed. A&M as a 7-seed is hose-worthy. The Big 12 in general was largely disrespected. K-State as a five is the anti-hose. Maybe they think K-State’s in the Big East?
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Committee chairman
Is an associate AD from Ohio State.
I hope
Florida gets upset early… Karma is a bitch
by jtdoes on Mar 13, 2011 11:37 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
I think it is well known that I have no love lost for youe team
although I do respect them this year, and I’ve always liked Rick Barnes.
That said, the committee wrapped rusty barbwire around a dildo and rammed it in there with no lube, and spun it a few times. Y’all got screwed HARD.
I am amazed at KSU being a 5 seed. Temple and Washington are 7 seeds. We beat all three of those teams, but we’re a 7 seed? WTF do we even play a regular season then, if wins and losses don’t matter?
Florida a 2 and Kentucky a 4? What was the point of them playing the SEC tournament championship game, then?
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