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Tristan Thompson to the NBA?

As you may have seen by now, NBADraft.net has reported that Texas forward Tristan Thompson will forego his remaining college eligibility and enter the NBA Draft.  The report cites "sources close to the situation."  As many of us have noted, there is a University of North Texas senior named Tristan Thompson who recently signed with an agent, suggesting that the NBADraft.net report was based on a confusion of the two TTs.

But NBADraft.net is sticking with its story.  I emailed the reporter and asked if he had possibly been confused and was told that no, he meant the Tristan Thompson with the Longhorns.  I asked further if he would be willing to give me some information on his source(s), and he politely declined, but added that based on where he got the information, he was "99% sure" it was accurate.

That is a, um, pretty high degree of confidence.  At the very least, there's no question that NBADraft.net intended to report what they did.  They were talking about Texas' Thompson, and they are reporting that he's gone. Already.

While it is heartening that Tristan's mother is denying the report, unfortunately such denials are not uncommon in these situations. If Longhorns fans are looking for something on which to pin their hopes, I would instead point to the fact that no one else is reporting it yet.  I've put out feelers elsewhere amongst those who tend to be the first to know and have yet to find any confirmation of the story.  At least for now, I'm holding out for confirmation from another source.

Until then, we wait.

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Weird situation

NBADraft.net is not the source I’d expect to first report such a big story.

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by GoHornsGo90 on Mar 28, 2011 10:34 AM CDT reply actions  

I hate these waiting games.

Although, I have no choice but to accept them. Either way he chooses, I will be happy for him.

Just hoping he is coming back!

Hook 'em

by blazzinken on Mar 28, 2011 10:37 AM CDT reply actions  

Jesus Shuttlesworth says TT's coming back, but not to play b-ball...instead he'll be coaching Tight Ends.

I don’t care what people say about speculation, it’s still real to me, damn it!

Be nobody but yourself in a world that desperately wants you to be like everybody else.

by 54b on Mar 28, 2011 1:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

PB, have you been able to do any research/analysis on this Aran Smith to see if he's been accurate in the past?

It probably doesn’t even matter, but if he’s either quick to report rumors as fact…or if he’s been known to exercise due diligence…it may tell us something.

We're going to play like we're in a bad mood.

by JoeT63 on Mar 28, 2011 10:47 AM CDT reply actions  

He's been covering the Draft since 2000

Don’t know much about his track record, but that’s a long time, so he’s not a spring chicken trying to make a splash. From our emails I sense he’s reporting this based on what he thinks are credible sources. He may be wrong, but I don’t think he’s playing games.

You ain't hurt...

by Peter Bean on Mar 28, 2011 10:51 AM CDT up reply actions  

Gotcha, thanks.

Here’s another page on nbadraft.net, listing JH as ‘Likely to Enter’. This DOES look like a guess, as there’s no attribution listed. (The TT attribution link only circles back to their own blog.)

http://www.nbadraft.net/2011-nba-draft-early-entrants

We're going to play like we're in a bad mood.

by JoeT63 on Mar 28, 2011 11:00 AM CDT up reply actions  

leaving school early

6 of ESPN’s (Chad Ford) top 8 projected draft picks for 2011 are freshman, with the other 2 being a sophomore (Derrick Williams) and an 18year old from Europe. Although OSU’s Jared Sullinger just announced he is staying another year.

Barnes needs to change his approach and talk our top kids into staying longer, especially with the NBA lockout looming this year… it makes sense for a kid to jump to Pro early if enough guys stay back in school, and that kid can significantly improve his draft rank. With TT, I’d think that he is already top 15, and at this point, not that many kids have dropped out ahead of him. If TT instead stays in school, and we have a dynamite team next year (and chances are good we will), he has a much better shot at going top 5. I wish somebody would convince TT (if it’s not too late)!!!

by bluejeans on Mar 28, 2011 11:10 AM CDT reply actions  

I think this group coming in

Aside from Kabongo (Who could even be a two year player)

I think 3 of them stay atleast 3 years, if not all 4.

Hook 'em

by blazzinken on Mar 28, 2011 11:48 AM CDT up reply actions  

This is a good thing

The Avery Bradleys, JH’s and TT’s aren’t getting us anywhere. I’ll take some seasoned seniors over freshmen/sophs who go cold in big games.

We have a 12th man and he's Bryan Harsin

by SpiritOfTheFedora on Mar 28, 2011 1:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

TT Twitter

Had this comment within the last day:

“Last year VCU was in the CBI tournament, and now they in the Final 4. Prime example of how dedication in the summer pays off in the long run "

Sounds like a guy looking to make the Final Four next year. I hope, anyway

by Jhal2315 on Mar 28, 2011 11:22 AM CDT reply actions  

eeesh.

Best of luck to him either way. I’m now conditioned to not be heartbroken over our faves leaving early. I just hope he’s surrounding himself by the right people.

by Infield Elephant on Mar 28, 2011 11:35 AM CDT reply actions  

not a good move for anyone

Somebody needs to point out to TT that although he was good in college, he is talking NBA and that is a whole new ballgame. He has no shot over 3 feet from the rim and his free throw ability is terrible. He is good on defense and is a good shotblocker. He runs the floor well for a big. When he was the strongest one on the court he could muscle it to the basket, but how many times did we see his tom-a-hawks miss this last season? He makes dumb freshman mistakes which would be even worse in the NBA. He is foul prone.

Maybe I am having a faulty memory but did he not struggle against strong big men this year? In the Big 12 Tournament Championship the Twins owned him. He had only 21 minutes due to foul trouble, 7 points and twice as many personal fouls as rebounds. I could make a strong argument he cost us the Championship due to his underdeveloped game. Then against the Nebraska huge front line, which he could not stop, he again had only 5 points and 3 rebounds with 4 personals. I could also make a strong argument that his performance there cost us a 2nd or 3rd seed in the NCAA (although others should shoulder the blame as well).

He often could outmuscle the competition in college, but again we are talking about the NBA where he will be equally matched or outmatched for a few years in terms of strength. He is still a great RAW NBA prospect. He really should stay and develop his game.

P>S> I also have a question about his maturity. I have not read if he is mature or immature off the court but his grabbing his junk against Baylor was the beginning of the run which almost cost us the game.

Pardon the typos. Where is the splchec?

All new states are infested, more or less, by a class of noisy, second-rate men who are always in favor of rash and extreme measures, but Texas was absolutely overrun by such men. --Sam Houston--

by Tex34xas on Mar 28, 2011 12:25 PM CDT reply actions  

Um

Dude, Thompson was one the very best freshmen ever to come through Texas. He has plenty of room to improve, but to say that your evaluation of him is, um, uncharitable, is being kind.

Look, we all want him to stay. But let’s not be unduly negative just because we’d love to have another year. The kid was phenomenal, on and off the court. Absolutely phenomenal.

You ain't hurt...

by Peter Bean on Mar 28, 2011 12:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

+1

That evaluation was unduly and inaccurately negative. If not for Marcus Morris being so polished, I could easily have seen Tristan having been named Big 12-2 Player of the Year. It was such an oversight that he wasn’t at least named 1st team. He was the greatest physical force in the conference and had a great year. He rarely got ‘owned’, rather, he owned other older players many times over. Dude was a beast. Aside from his FTs, he doesn’t show a lot of downside at all. If he can polish his game a bit more, he’ll be all-american next year and, eventually, a solid contributor on the block in the NBA. UT will miss him greatly if he goes pro.

by robthecob on Mar 28, 2011 12:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

Why are we calling it the Big 12-2?

Even though we won’t have the same number of teams, the conference is still the first big 12.

TEXAS FIGHT

by Darklust on Mar 29, 2011 11:13 AM CDT up reply actions  

Well, I really don't know what to call it anymore.

IMO, the Southwest Conference (& ACC, SEC, Big East, etc…) was such a personality-laden name compared to the Big 8, which I thought sounded like it was 1st created with crayons by a 3rd grader after a brainstorming session with husker & sooner grads. Is this really the best originality they could come up with?! Back when the Big 12 was 1st formed, I thought that really any fool from the brink of the 21st century would realize that they might not always have 12 teams and, thus, shouldn’t put a # in the name. (My own recommendation woulda been the “Big Southwest”, as a compromise) Anyway, my foresight proved correct. Now, they have to change their name (& every last shred of publicity equipment & materials) sometime in the near future just to sound marginally intelligent. Same thing with the Pac 10 (12), Big 10 (12), Atlantic 10 (14) & whatever other monkeys have made this same faux pas.

by robthecob on Mar 29, 2011 2:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

Sorry that you thought I was being unduly negative when I evaluated his talent against that of the NBA bigs.

But I am not talking about when he played against much lesser big men, I am stating that when he palyed against what most closely approximated NBA type big men this season he struggled.

Granted he was a hoss in many instances this year. He took over a number of games and without him UT would not have had the season he had. He was exceptional for a freshman and has great upside potential. But he made freshmen mistakes as all freshmen do and which all players who go extremely early to the NBA continue to do. He does not have a jump shot and he shoots free throws poorly. If you have issue with these points I am sorry for speaking the truth.

By the way, how many truly NBA quality bigs did he play against this season and how did he do when he faced them? I referenceed the Kansas tournament game and the Nebraska game and simply review the stats for both. (And for me to consider the Nebraska front line as NBA calibre is a gross overstatement.) If you need a third game, try UNC. He was on the floor only 16 minutes becuase he was in foul trouble with 4 personals and had only 5 boards and 4 points. Perhaps I am missing a game against a quality big man that he did ‘own’.

Sure he ‘owned’ other teams which did not have NBA-type bigs and I think he will someday be a talented NBA big man. All I am saying is he is not ready yet to go pro and needs another year in college to be ready.

Pardon the typos. Where is the splchec?

All new states are infested, more or less, by a class of noisy, second-rate men who are always in favor of rash and extreme measures, but Texas was absolutely overrun by such men. --Sam Houston--

by Tex34xas on Mar 28, 2011 4:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

i would say he got the better of oaklands big guy

and he was a SR so he had 3 more years to gain mass and skill.

by dukeoforange on Mar 28, 2011 5:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

I agree with you....thanks for pointing that out

Pardon the typos. Where is the splchec?

All new states are infested, more or less, by a class of noisy, second-rate men who are always in favor of rash and extreme measures, but Texas was absolutely overrun by such men. --Sam Houston--

by Tex34xas on Mar 29, 2011 12:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't agree all that much with a lot of this

However, it does raise this point: TT is considered one of the “bigs” at Texas. In the NBA, he really wouldn’t be.

When the world slips you a jeffrey, stroke the furry wall.

by burntorangehorn on Mar 28, 2011 12:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

out of position

What position will TT play in the NBA? Not center, I’ll bet, or if so as a Tim Duncan style center that is really a forward position. So I’m not so worried that he is overpowered by legitimate big men. I think to take the next step he needs to work on his shooting.

Before you criticize someone, walk a mile in their shoes. If they get mad, you're a mile away AND you have their shoes.

by Caradoc on Mar 28, 2011 2:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

TT will be a 4 in the NBA

Obviously, he could really benefit from a jump shot at the next level, but a lot of big guys add these over time.

Trying to project NBA success is hard. But TT has some things going for him. He is really, really athletic. He will have value on defense and on the boards pretty early in his career. We will have to see how his offensive game develops.

by Reggieball on Mar 28, 2011 5:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think he could be a 4 in the nba but I would not say "will"

If he wants to be great in the nba he will develop an outside game and convert to the 3. He is already solid in the lowpost though it needs refining for the next level, and if he could start making the 3 or even just a 19- 20 foot jumper he could be really good. If he chooses not to develop these skills I think he is a very mediocre 4 in the nba. He has been great at Texas and he goes well in college because of his athleticism but when your going against 6’ 11’’ pau gasol or dirk or 6’ 10’’ serge ibaka, chris bosh and amare; it is a totally different animal. Also there is a possible lockout and if it happens he is not going to get the game experience he could get in college. I think his skill set means he needs to comeback.

by CanadianHorn on Mar 28, 2011 7:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

Serge Ibaka is a good comp

in terms of athleticism. TT is obviously more advanced offensively that Ibaka was at the same age.

Thompson is 6’9" and very athletic. And in my view, he plays bigger than 6’9". Playing the 4 defensively in the NBA is much more likely than playing the 3. I mean, he will struggle guarding Gasol and Dirk, but who doesn’t struggle to guard these guys? At the 3, he will have to play smaller quicker players away from the basket, which is not really his strength.

by Reggieball on Mar 28, 2011 7:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

"Britney Griner would be a top 5 power forward in Men's college basketball"

sorry OT but that was the funniest tweet I saw this week, about Baylor’s 6’8" sophomore

by bluejeans on Mar 28, 2011 8:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

not agreeing with your analysis, but

If what you say is true, He should go pro now while he is a top 15 lock and get the guaranteed 5 million.

Why would he stay? its too risky, what if his jump shot doesn’t develop next year, what if his freethrows continue to be bad, what if he doesn’t mature or hamilton leaves and we suck. Too many what ifs, smart thing to do is take the money and work on your game on a full time pro basis

by vyvyvy on Mar 29, 2011 10:40 AM CDT up reply actions  

No way.

He shoots free throws like a girl.

by robthecob on Mar 29, 2011 3:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't think TT is going. And its not because of talent.

Thompson, Joseph, and Kybango are best friends. They will likely never get a chance to play together again. I don’t see TT passing up that opportunity.

OU SUCKS!!!!!!

by TexasFight83 on Mar 28, 2011 1:31 PM CDT reply actions  

He has stated otherwise

As to whether he should go, in terms of his draft stock, you’re probably right. If you’re saying that because you think we’re better off, I disagree strongly.

I wish I could play little league now... I'd kick some fuckin' ass.

by drbadass on Mar 28, 2011 1:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

definitely draft stock

As I see it, if he has a brain, he goes now.

OU SUCKS!!!!!!

by TexasFight83 on Mar 28, 2011 11:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

JH

Claims he promised his mom Karen that he would get his degree from UT, so he is staying. (Was in Dallas Morning News awhile back)

Not sure if he knows about the summer school route Durant and others have taken, but if he wants to stay for his degree I respect that. May not be his smartest move, but a respected one.

by Jhal2315 on Mar 29, 2011 12:40 AM CDT up reply actions  

You don't see TT passing up that opportunity?

I don’t know, man. BBallers, nowadays, care so much more about money than about friendship and / or winning.

To me, it’s logical: Stay, play w/ your buddies, be a kid, enjoy college life, go for a national title, fulfill the scholarship you’ve been blessed with, then go pro when you’ve showcased your talent on the national stage and potential is unlimited. The risk of staying in school is verifiably so minimal. My family’s been fine financially for 18 years.

To them, it’s “show me the money”. The risk of staying in school is just too high. My family needs me NOW.

by robthecob on Mar 28, 2011 2:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

If I were Thompson I would cash my chips in.

Just saying.

If you can get a 1st round grade, then you go pro. Just the most sound financial decision. Staying in school means one year of earnings that you will never get back.

by CMDR on Mar 28, 2011 1:34 PM CDT reply actions  

Always about the money?

Over the course of a career, how much difference does a year’s income make? With his talent, Thompson will never have to worry about money. His college days could be the best of his life — why leave so soon? The NBA will still be there.

Before you criticize someone, walk a mile in their shoes. If they get mad, you're a mile away AND you have their shoes.

by Caradoc on Mar 28, 2011 3:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

if you factor in that a player has x number of seasons in his body, and he gets one more paid nba season vs one more unpaid college season, you are talking millions…

If he suffers a severe injury that knocks him out of the draft, or ends his career before the draft – tens to hundreds of millions.

"If winning isn't everything, why do they keep score?" - Vince Lombardi

by UTLawGrad on Mar 28, 2011 4:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

Please cite the # of times that a player has been injured when he should have gone pro.

It’s just so rare. I know that an injury is possible but the reality is that it just hardly ever happens. More often than that, players play worse in a 2nd year and get drafted lower than they would have the prior year. But the most common scenario that has been played out hundreds of times is for the player to STAY in school and GET EVEN BETTER at BBall, make all-american, and even get on the big stage of the Final Four, etc… and then sign for many more millions than he would have made had he come out earlier. Too often, though, they just run for that big green paycheck because, seemingly, that’s all that matters to them nowadays.

by robthecob on Mar 28, 2011 4:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

maybe anecdotal but

Chris Owens?

"I love my haters" -VY

by TheBlanton on Mar 28, 2011 5:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

UT's Chris Owens?

What was his story? Was he injured? I can’t exactly remember.

by robthecob on Mar 28, 2011 6:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

Mine Too

As a Duncanville Alum. I always followed the exploits of the Duncanville Players. Chris Owens, Brian Boddicker, Roosevelt Brown, and Shawn Williams.

On a side note I was amazed at how many Big XII teams had Duncanville players on them (P. Jones, et. al.) this year.

"I love my haters" -VY

by TheBlanton on Mar 28, 2011 6:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

Don't forget Tamika Catchings.

Sure wish we coulda got her. Would have turned the UT ladies’ program around.

by robthecob on Mar 29, 2011 3:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

I remember his comeback

One of the most courageous things I’ve seen in sports.

Before you criticize someone, walk a mile in their shoes. If they get mad, you're a mile away AND you have their shoes.

by Caradoc on Mar 29, 2011 7:35 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yea, getting drafted higher can more than make up for a year lost

The chances of injury are slim, plus I’ve heard there is insurance they can buy (but I’m not sure how accurate that is). Anyway, that was my point also:

But the most common scenario that has been played out hundreds of times is for the player to STAY in school and GET EVEN BETTER at BBall, make all-american, and even get on the big stage of the Final Four, etc… and then sign for many more millions than he would have made had he come out earlier.

I would bet that TT’s next year would be better than this year, with the team we can potentially have. If his draft stock goes up after a stellar sophomore year, he can be a top 5 pick. I know for the NFL, there is a huge difference ($ millions) b/w top 5 versus late first round. What are the differentials in the NBA? And how long are the rookie year contracts usually?

If he goes out too early, not only is his initial contract likely less, but subpar performance in the NBA due to underdevelopment could also hurt his next contract.

by bluejeans on Mar 28, 2011 5:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

I know it is an IF but IFs happen

I guess it depends on your risk tolerance…I’m risk averse, so if i had a son who was a mid to late first round pick, I think I would advise that he take the money and be more than secure for the rest of his life.

And, I don’t know how a pick he would have been as a junior (he averaged 19.1 ppg and 5.9 rpg that year), but De’Sean Butler (just signed with my Spurs) was supposed to be a very high first round pick his senior year and tore his acl during last year’s NCAA tournament. Ended up signed in the second round (by Miami) and cut during training camp.

"If winning isn't everything, why do they keep score?" - Vince Lombardi

by UTLawGrad on Mar 28, 2011 6:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

“…how high a pick he would have been….”

"If winning isn't everything, why do they keep score?" - Vince Lombardi

by UTLawGrad on Mar 28, 2011 6:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

Butler might be a good example

There is a big difference between 1st round (guaranteed money) and 2nd round (have to make a team) as you point out.

I don’t know how high Butler would have gone (older player without a position or a polished offensive game), but it isn’t unreasonable that the ACL tear cost him a 1st round pick. I don’t know how high he would have gone, but mid to late 1st round isn’t such a stretch.

by Reggieball on Mar 28, 2011 7:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

Future earnings are tricky for an NBA player

Your first contract in the NBA is a good one, but it is the second one where you make the serious money. Maximizing the dollar amount of your second contract probably has the biggest effect on the future earnings of a player who will stay in the NBA long enough to get one.

So if you think an extra year of college gives you a better chance of getting a better deal after your rookie contract is up, then it might be worth the extra year. If you are Kevin Durant level, then the chances are good that your second contract will be a max deal no matter what, but for most players this is not the case.

There are also a few things to consider about the Rookie contract:

1) Potential for a lockout next year means that some of that contract may not pay out. Waiting another year means that you will get the full value.

2) We don’t know yet what the new rookie contracts will look like. But chances are pretty good that they will be less lucrative.

3) The NBA rookie contracts are based on draft position. Right now, TT projects at roughly the 15th pick. Let’s say, that taking another year in college allows TT to move up in the draft. If you move up 5 slots, you get about an extra 1/2 million dollars per year. If you move up 10 slots to the # 5 spot, that roughly doubles the value of you contract. If TT thinks that with another year he can move up into the top 5, then he really should stay, unless he needs the cash now. (Also note that this might all change with the new collective bargaining agreement.)

by Reggieball on Mar 28, 2011 5:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

If you move up 5 slots, you get about an extra 1/2 million dollars per year.

did you mean to write an extra 1/2 million per slot?

I thought it was also semi-exponential to some degree, not just linear, especially for the top 5 (it is for NFL, at least)

by bluejeans on Mar 28, 2011 5:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

It isn't linear

as you point out. I was referring to moving up 5 slots, specifically from position 15 to position 10.

This move ends up earning a bit under an extra 1/2 million per year. As you get closer to the top of the draft, the salary increases more as you move up a slot. For the first few picks, you are correct — the salaries move up more like an extra 1/2 million per slot.

by Reggieball on Mar 28, 2011 6:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

what does a typical NBA rookie contract look like for top 1-5 in terms of dollars and years?

by bluejeans on Mar 28, 2011 5:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

NICE

only 2 years guaranteed here, I gather, then the team decides on the 3rd and 4th year options… What is a qualifying offer?

by bluejeans on Mar 28, 2011 6:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

After that fourth season, you can become a restricted free agent

I am not an NBA contract expert, but here is how I understand it.

1st and 2nd years are guaranteed, with 3rd and 4th years being a team option. After the 4th season, the team has three choices. 1) cut the player loose. 2) Sign the player to a new contract. 3) Make the player a qualifying offer at the level designated (it is a certain % raise over the previous season). Then the player becomes a restricted free agent, meaning his team is entitled to match any offer that another team makes.

And I don’t see any reason for a fan to spend too much time learning about NBA contracts, as it will likely all change pretty soon anyway.

by Reggieball on Mar 28, 2011 7:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

This just in

54b’s Never Satisfied “B-Ball Thru A Football Prism” Viewers: 1

PB and Wiggo’s “Lightning In A Bottle B-Ball” Catchers: 0

But that doesn’t mean I don’t want TT to stay, I do. I’m just trying to keep it real.

Don’t hate the player, hate the game.

Be nobody but yourself in a world that desperately wants you to be like everybody else.

by 54b on Mar 28, 2011 1:34 PM CDT reply actions  

Another ''One and Done''

That is Barnes thing. He just goes for one year wonders who reach their potential in the NBA. Time for a new strategy.

by bevomav on Mar 28, 2011 2:08 PM CDT reply actions  

Please.

Do you really think he “goes” for one-year wonders?! Gimme a break. He goes for the best players he can get. Most of the UT fanbase would rip him if he didn’t do his level-best to bring in the best players in the country. You can chalk this recent “one & done” phenomena up to the players, not to Barnes.

by robthecob on Mar 28, 2011 2:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

Theory

Out of the top twenty players being recruited, only a few will stay more than a year or two. The coaches know that and naturally prefer the ones that will stay, but also see they need the others to compete. The very top programs (UNC, Kansas, Duke) end up with the guys who stay, while the short-timers end up at schools like Texas.

Before you criticize someone, walk a mile in their shoes. If they get mad, you're a mile away AND you have their shoes.

by Caradoc on Mar 28, 2011 3:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

Short of giving each prospect a psychological exam ...

.. how are you going to determine who will likely stay 3-4 years and who will likely leave after 1 or 2 years? There’s just no rhyme or reason to it. The only things that I legitimately see attracting the very top echelon of freshmen to stay in school are (A) Great BBall school w/ a huge following of rabid fans, a.k.a. UNC, Duke, Indiana, UConn, that play in a nationally-visible basketball conference. (B) That the kid actually cares about academics and a degree from that prestigious school. Other than those, I find no legit reasons that are keeping these kids in school.

by robthecob on Mar 28, 2011 4:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

or (C) The kid's family has money...

And doesn’t necessarily need the immediate payday. Good example would be sons of pro athletes (e.g., Seth Curry, Austin Rivers, etc.)

by brentmcd on Mar 28, 2011 5:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

Good addition.

Duke’s Cherokee Parks, from what I remember. His parents were loaded. Maybe Grant Hill as well.

I feel really dirty naming two Dukies and nobody else. Please pass the soap.

by robthecob on Mar 28, 2011 6:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

Like Jai Lucas? nt

"A lot of people look for the easy way to do anything, in swimming there is no easy way." - Eddie Reese

by SwimTexas on Mar 28, 2011 6:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

Not sure whether Tim Duncan's family had money...

…but he promised his mother he’d finish his degree before going pro, and he did.

When the world slips you a jeffrey, stroke the furry wall.

by burntorangehorn on Mar 28, 2011 7:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

Be patient

Yeah have you seen their mock draft? Doesn’t make a lot of sense. Best example: Washington picking a PG at #3. Washington needs a lot of things and PG is probably at the bottom of their list (with John Wall). Moreover, it’s Kyrie Irving, who I would be surprised if he went that high given his injury problems.

I’ll believe it when I see it, but I was really disheartened when Sullinger said he was staying. I think that’s ultimately baloney as I don’t see why Sullinger would turn down a probable #1 pick by Cleveland and falls no further than 5 for sure. TT on the other hand, probably won’t go until after the top 5 and maybe not until mid-first round. He could very much use another year in the weight room and some polish on his low post moves. With his dexterity, he could be a top 5 pick in the next two seasons.

I also don’t see why people think the draft potential of Hamilton is at its peak. He’s projected late first by everyone I’ve seen. He is a great shooter and rebounder, and his defense improved. But he could still work on his defense and a tournament run/conference championship could really help to improve the perception that he is not a leader. Also, his shooting and overall production dropped off at the end of the season. I think him coming out as a sophomore would actually hurt his draft stock, all things being equal.

by Erasmus Funderburke on Mar 28, 2011 2:31 PM CDT reply actions  

komplane, komplane, komplane...

and then you’ll have a senior laden team with experience but no superstar and you will be whining about needing a 5-Star recruit like John Wall or Jarred Sullinger to make the team legit.

Fk’n whiners, man. It’s college basketball and only one team can win. I’m not saying Barnes is the best coach in the world, I’m only saying that some of you need to get a grip.

by elcapitan009 on Mar 28, 2011 2:32 PM CDT reply actions  

So nice of you to stop by.

Also, it’s spelled “complain.”

"The only sport that should be cried over is tee ball."
- don't remember who said it, but I like it.

by HookTech on Mar 28, 2011 3:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

hahaha

thanks for the heads up, guy. I will shorely pay attention to my grammer

by elcapitan009 on Mar 28, 2011 4:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ha! I'm pretty sure you were joking with "shorely"

But I don’t think you were with “grammer”

I’m enjoying this tete a tit.

"The only sport that should be cried over is tee ball."
- don't remember who said it, but I like it.

by HookTech on Mar 28, 2011 6:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

my IQ is eleventy billion

i know what i was doing. Subtle but directed…. like the fury of a thousand suns

by elcapitan009 on Mar 29, 2011 8:52 AM CDT up reply actions  

you had certainly passed a certain threshold of probable stupidity with the spelling, given that you were actually using punctuation.

You’d have to be pretty smart to be that stupid. But if your IQ was eleventy billion, you’d know that 1,000 suns isn’t subtle or directed. So, I still have my doubts…

"The only sport that should be cried over is tee ball."
- don't remember who said it, but I like it.

by HookTech on Mar 29, 2011 9:01 AM CDT up reply actions  

it is when I do it

i think so fast I bend light. you think so slow you bend…. wieners

by elcapitan009 on Mar 29, 2011 1:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

Oh good,

I’d be concerned if I was having the opposite effect.

"The only sport that should be cried over is tee ball."
- don't remember who said it, but I like it.

by HookTech on Mar 29, 2011 4:24 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

okay, now I know the "9" in your moniker is your age.

"The only sport that should be cried over is tee ball."
- don't remember who said it, but I like it.

by HookTech on Mar 29, 2011 7:48 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Also,

I’m not your guy, buddy. (Hopefully, you know the reference.)

"The only sport that should be cried over is tee ball."
- don't remember who said it, but I like it.

by HookTech on Mar 28, 2011 6:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm not your buddy, pal!

"Poetic talent is really easy to fake when thy sentences doth no f***ing sense make." -Bo Burnham

by lnghrn53 on Mar 28, 2011 7:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm not your pal, buddy!

"The only sport that should be cried over is tee ball."
- don't remember who said it, but I like it.

by HookTech on Mar 28, 2011 7:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm not your buddy, friend!

"Poetic talent is really easy to fake when thy sentences doth no f***ing sense make." -Bo Burnham

by lnghrn53 on Mar 28, 2011 7:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

shorely you jest?

i am not jesting and dont call me shorely!

by dukeoforange on Mar 28, 2011 5:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

Have you ever seen a grown man naked. (I think that's a line from Airplane)

Otherwise, that’s awkward.

"The only sport that should be cried over is tee ball."
- don't remember who said it, but I like it.

by HookTech on Mar 28, 2011 6:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

First time?

No, I’ve been nervous lots of times.

"Poetic talent is really easy to fake when thy sentences doth no f***ing sense make." -Bo Burnham

by lnghrn53 on Mar 28, 2011 7:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

Wait a sec.

There’s a Tristan Thompson (SR) at UNT. That could be the answer, NBADraft.net

Also, don’t ever trust a website that uses ITSELF as a source.

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by rosco_blazer on Mar 28, 2011 3:01 PM CDT reply actions  

Hilarious though

that you read enough of the comments to know that the site referenced itself.

"A lot of people look for the easy way to do anything, in swimming there is no easy way." - Eddie Reese

by SwimTexas on Mar 28, 2011 3:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

ZING!

Got me.

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by rosco_blazer on Mar 29, 2011 10:40 AM CDT up reply actions  

GoBR, PB, Wiggo, Any news

On DeAndre Daniels? Are we still pursuing that kid? At 6’7"-6’8" he could be watching the Tristan Thompson/Jordan Hamilton “Should I stay or should I go” Show closely.

"A lot of people look for the easy way to do anything, in swimming there is no easy way." - Eddie Reese

by SwimTexas on Mar 28, 2011 3:05 PM CDT reply actions  

Curious to know

what kind of information the agents are trying to feed to the players about the potential lockout. I haven’t read enough about the NBA lockout to know all the ramifications, but from the articles I have read it seems to be much worse than the NFL situation.

Supposedly, they are wanting to go a hard slotting system for draft picks, which could mean less money up front for the players selected. I wonder if agents are trying to paint a picture to draft eligible players that if they don’t come out now they could be risking millions of dollars by waiting?

by Hookem4life84 on Mar 28, 2011 4:29 PM CDT reply actions  

man......a starting 4 of

Kabongo
Joseph
Hamilton
Thompson

would be sick. Mix in Brown at the 1 or 2 and that is an impressive group. Not sure who would play the 4 for us….I guess Wangmene or one of the freshman…..but you could put in a stiff and still have an excellent team with that group.

by WeAreVince on Mar 28, 2011 4:39 PM CDT reply actions  

Chapman back from injury

"The only sport that should be cried over is tee ball."
- don't remember who said it, but I like it.

by HookTech on Mar 28, 2011 6:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

Oh, good to know.

Either way, he’s a good option to have over Wang Chung.

"The only sport that should be cried over is tee ball."
- don't remember who said it, but I like it.

by HookTech on Mar 29, 2011 4:29 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

It would be sick

then again, think of the other sick possible lineups we could’ve had if any number of former UT stars returned for another year. All we can do is think “what if?”

by goingforthecorner on Mar 28, 2011 7:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

Definite

Preseason top 5, and potential #1 depending on who leaves on the other teams

by jtdoes on Mar 28, 2011 8:24 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

If it is our Tristan

it means he had his mind made up a long time ago, since it means he has already vetted an agent. Usually our high profile players have taken more time for that.

by srr50 on Mar 28, 2011 5:00 PM CDT reply actions  

At least he is still going to classes

Tristan via Twitter:

Study hall for 5 hours completing a paper, life of a student athlete #UT

by IUTex on Mar 28, 2011 6:42 PM CDT reply actions  

That's a good sign

Some knuckleheads stop going to class after the season is done.

by Eskimohorn on Mar 29, 2011 10:00 AM CDT up reply actions  

An Opportunity to Showcase Other Talents Next Year

One possible scenario for next year which might improve TT’s overall skill set and therefore NBA marketability -

It has been mentioned by several that TT needs to show capabilty of a 10-15 ft jump shot. I think the possibility of using Chapman in the post and moving TT to a 4 would get him a little farther from the basket and provide the option to pop a jumper or drive to the basket since he is a pretty good ball handler for his size. Chapman could play the post and I think he could be effective. I think he has much more offensive skill than Hill had. With Chapman camped out in the paint and TT driving to the basket, what does the defense do? Double team TT only to see him dump off to Chapman for a dunk, or only put a single defender on him where TT could either spot up for a short jumper or take it all the way to the hoop? Bottom line is that moving TT away from the basket would really create some match up issues and allow TT to showcase some other skills.

This would not be a set you would run all the time – TT could man the post too to change things up. Seems like some interesting possibilities though that would not only help the team but would round out TT’s skill set.

Speaking of Chapman, I would really like to see guys like him and Hill develop some kind of jump hook. They often can’t elevate (or have the footwork) to get off a good jump shot. Why do these guys never seem to develop any additional skills over 4 years? Jason Klotz is the only player I can recall who actually improved his offensive skill set over 4 years, and some of that was by developing a little jump hook.

by gcinthewoods on Mar 28, 2011 8:30 PM CDT reply actions  

Boddicker was "money" in his last couple of years.

He became a dead-eye shooter at UT, even better than when he arrived. Where is boddickerisclutch?

by robthecob on Mar 29, 2011 3:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

Speculation: Will the real TT please stand up?

Some team thinking their going to be drafting our TT gets the other TT instead. How many could there be? If there are two would it be better to go in a year when there is confusion over who is whom? or should you wait until you stand on your own realizing of course that without the confusion your stock may go down? Would you worry that one team may draft both TTs in the same year and try to split your salary? If one is drafted and the other steps up to the stage to put on the hat, will they know? Will they care? Or should we follow Peter Bean’s advice and just wait?

3rd Degree Longhorn

by Ohio Horn on Mar 28, 2011 8:48 PM CDT reply actions  

My personal opinion

Tristan leaves.

After emotional games, people always vow they will come back and try to win it all. He made the statement about summer classes or whatever. As a current UT student, you can withdraw from all of those classes up until the first couple days of class without penalty. So that argument is null. Im tired year after year buying into these BS reports that kids are staying or whatever only to be let down a few months later (see: DJ Augustin). So my outlook now is to expect everyone to be gone. Hell, I could even see Cory Joseph leaving.

Actually, going back I cant believe how many people thought Durant had a chance at staying for another year. People just dont want to admit it and face reality.

Jared Sullinger is full of shit as well. $$ on him leaving.

by MJY6087 on Mar 28, 2011 9:17 PM CDT reply actions  

Go go go go GO!!!

Someone show this man the MONEY!!!!!

by Beergut on Mar 29, 2011 1:50 AM CDT reply actions   1 recs

Sad face.

Why go? It’s stupid. We have the talent to win a championship next year.

"Hey, don't y'all think that's beautiful right there? That crystal is SO beautiful. And it's coming home to Texas." - Vince Young

by LookinForIt on Mar 29, 2011 3:58 AM CDT reply actions  

We have the talent every year

On the radio they are suggesting both Tristan and Jordan are gone. Tristan being told he is a top 15 pick. Tristan needs to work on his jumper, I guess he figures that he can get better coaching at the next level. I think he has the effort defense thing down, not sure how much more to learn from Barnes than effort defense.

I thought the last two year where when Barnes would raise the bar as a great coach. He came into last year with 3 seniors who had started most of their career combined with 3 uber talented freshman – failure. This year we had a younger team (with 3 5 star guys) but we had more experience than Connecticut and Kentucky, once again failure.

As long as Barnes is here, It appears we will be a very talent team that does OK..

by IUTex on Mar 29, 2011 7:56 AM CDT up reply actions  

PB, you have connections, right?

Can’t you just call up Tristan and put this to rest?

"The only sport that should be cried over is tee ball."
- don't remember who said it, but I like it.

by HookTech on Mar 29, 2011 9:14 AM CDT reply actions  

pshaw

I’d think he’d appreciate someone taking the initiative to clear the air for him. TT may not even be aware there are inaccurate rumors going around about him, so that would do him two favors: making him aware of it and resolving it. Who wouldn’t want that?

"The only sport that should be cried over is tee ball."
- don't remember who said it, but I like it.

by HookTech on Mar 29, 2011 12:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

Heh, I'll bet he's very aware

The instant something like this comes out, TT probably had countless texts, calls, and emails about it.

When the world slips you a jeffrey, stroke the furry wall.

by burntorangehorn on Mar 29, 2011 4:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

Is there an emoticon for tongue-in-cheek?

"The only sport that should be cried over is tee ball."
- don't remember who said it, but I like it.

by HookTech on Mar 29, 2011 5:35 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

This is clearly over… If the story was legit, it would be on at least one other outlet. Looks like the reporter just got his facts wrong, and then stuck to them.

by Tackchevy on Mar 29, 2011 9:49 AM CDT via mobile reply actions  

If I had to guess, I'd guess that the reporter's conveying exactly what the source said...

…but that the source itself heard something and mistook TT@UT for TT@UNT.

When the world slips you a jeffrey, stroke the furry wall.

by burntorangehorn on Mar 29, 2011 9:51 AM CDT up reply actions  

Easy mistake.

If TT comes back, all is forgiven.

by robthecob on Mar 29, 2011 3:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

Does a possible lock-out come into play?

Wondering how that would affect the draft …

Watch out, I bite.

by EddieTheAlbinoSquirrel on Mar 29, 2011 8:06 PM CDT reply actions  

thats a great question....because all the coverage I have seen

is stating the NBA lockout will be much worse and extensive than anything we see from the NFL lockout.

by silky51 on Mar 31, 2011 3:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

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