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McDonald's All-American Game/Myck Kabongo Thoughts

One of my favorite nights of the year for the past eight years or so has been the night of the McDonald's AA game. I've seen tape on many of the top prospects that would be in the game, but you can't really judge the primacy of stud players until you pit them against each other.

Some guys like O.J. Mayo will respond by jacking up 30+ shots at a horrible clip and ostracizing their teammates. Others, like Brad Buckman, will defer to the more talented and prestigious players and pick their spots on the night. The true megastars, like Kevin Durant, will fit seamlessly into the game and still put up huge numbers. Durant had 25 points in the game and was co-MVP with Chase Budinger, who, while good, really had no business being mentioned in the same sentence on that night.

That said, the most important thing I take from the game is how the player perceives himself with regards to his supposed peers. The next thing I look at is his skillset. The third thing is effort and the least important thing to me is stats. I honestly couldn't care less if UNC commit James McAdoo, who was hilariously named co-MVP with Kentucky commit Mike Gilchrist, hit one three and had a bunch of breakaway dunks to total 17 points.

Some player thoughts after the jump:

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Myck Kabongo, PG, Texas: For those of you who only glanced at the stat lines and didn't watch the game or those who watched the game and were nonplussed, don't fear. You'll see a much more steady and under-control player when Kabongo is under Rick Barnes' keen eye. The stage and nature of the game certainly brought out the flair in Myck, who had some insane passes and showed off some astounding handle that had the crowd "ooohing" and "ahhhhing" in the opening minutes of the game.

But he also had five turnovers (I actually thought it was more), a few from overly-ambitious passes to teammates, a few from passes where he kind of just lobbed the ball to nobody in particular, and one where he tried to do some fancy behind-the-back move and just lost the ball. He was also 0-6 from the field, including two wide-open missed threes and a few easy missed layups.

Texas fans will be extremely happy to know that Myck nailed both his free throw attempts, his only two points of the game. I expect him to shoot at least 75% from the line next year. ESPN had him with five assists and six rebounds on their last stat run-through, which is generally what you're going to get from Myck—a stat-stuffing game and not too much scoring.

What I liked most about Myck was his mentality. He knew he belonged with the rest of the top players in the country and showed no fear in running the offense for his team and trying to break down (more like embarrass) the opposing guards that were covering him. Great confidence, solid poise, and didn't get upset when he messed up.

Anthony Davis, PF, Kentucky: Not sure if anybody remembers, but this kid created a real buzz right after he committed to Kentucky when it was rumored UK gave his father and him $200K for his signature. Well, from what I saw in that game, whatever they paid him clearly was not enough. Due to growing seven inches in the last year, Davis has good perimeter skills to complement his 6'10" height. He's finally starting to fill out and once he does, he'll be absolutely unstoppable. Good handle, decent shot, great athleticism, very good tenacity, stellar shotblocking ability, and a good feel for the game make his potential hard to envision. He was so much better than everybody else in the game and he's improving at an enormous rate. Comparisons to KG sound pretty much spot-on. He will almost assuredly be the number one pick in next year's NBA draft. Davis had 14 points.

Austin Rivers, SG, Duke: I've seen Rivers play nearly 10 times now, so I knew what to expect from Doc's most talented son. Deep range and a nasty pull-up jumper go well with his crafty dribbling ability, huge basketball IQ, and good finishing skills at the rim. He's only a good, not phenomenal, athlete though, so at only 6'3" he'll need to develop his point guard skills to excel at the next level. Will he be Chauncey Billups or O.J. Mayo? Austin had 14 points.

Khem Birch, PF, Pittsburgh: Surprisingly, Myck wasn't even the best Canadian in the game. That honor goes to Birch, who is generally tabbed as the tall, lanky, athletic guy who can block shots like bullet-proof vests but has a raw athletic game. Kid was all over the place in this game though, not only blocking shots, but also crashing the boards with alacrity (nine offensive rebounds). 10 points and 10 rebounds is a solid game for a young man that many scouts will be drooling over in next year's draft.

Bradley Beal, SG, Florida: I'm glad Beal had a really strong game because he was ice-cold when I saw his St. Louis Eagles AAU team take on Rivers' Winter Park team last year. Beal is often described as a Ray Allen-type player because he has a beautiful shot, but doesn't do much fancy stuff off the bounce. He's also capable of athletic finishes at the rim and rebounded well in this game. Beal had 17 points. Florida will have a crowded backcourt next year with Beal and Rutgers transfer Mike Rosario joining returning mighty mites Erving Walker and Kenny Boynton.

P.J. Hairston, SG, UNC: Hairston had 15 points and drained three DEEP threes, including one that looked like it was four or five feet behind the NBA arc. He's also a plus athlete and I like him more than Beal due to his better height (6'6" vs. 6'3/4"). Hairston should jump right into heavy minutes with the Heels, who desperately need his consistent shooting range.

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missed the game

Know of any place where I can watch it now?

I love watching these games, but don’t put too much stock in the performances in them. How long did it take Harrison Barnes and UNC to develope the chemistry to perform at the level they were capable of this year?

Can’t really judge kids in one game except, like you said, the way they carry themselves, and their skill sets. And we got a good one by those measures.

I did watch the Yates game and the game today, and I absolutely love this kid. Can’t wait.

Wish we could see the other recruits play as well.

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by SwimTexas on Mar 31, 2011 7:01 PM CDT reply actions  

Should be able

To watch it on ESPN3.

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by GoHornsGo90 on Mar 31, 2011 7:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

I saw the same comments about Avery Bradley and Cory Joseph...

… before they joined the team. And you can’t just dismiss his mistakes and emphasize his good plays. His good plays happened because he was willing to make a difficult pass. The times it worked were “good plays” and the times it didn’t were “bad plays”.

The life cycle of a Texas player typically it goes something like this:

1) Player A is 5-star commits and is a can’t miss prospect that will elevate Texas to the Final Four and multiple championships.

2) Player A joins team, has some glaring weakness (dribbling, shooting, catching the ball, defense, free throw shooting, decision-making, etc. You name it, we’ve had it.) along with a really good skill set otherwise.

3) Texas gets eliminated in tournament by team that can scheme around each player’s one glaring weakness.

4A) Player A improves enough to go pro by end of 2nd year (Ford, Augustin, Gibson, Bradley, Aldridge, Durant, possibly Thompson and Hamilton).

OR

4B) Player never improves and actually regresses in ability by senior year (almost everyone else).

5) Texas fans declare next high school phenom to be the one that will actually take us over the hump and win a championship.

by CzarCW on Mar 31, 2011 9:13 PM CDT reply actions  

I doubt you saw

Anything remotely similar about Kabongo, he is a completely different player than Joseph and AB.

And all the complaints you listed above apply to every big-time school in the country. Worked out well for Kentucky the past few years…

Frankly, your comments seem extremely fair-weather to me. To each his own, I suppose.

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by GoHornsGo90 on Mar 31, 2011 9:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

Funny that you list Ford

And he actually did elevate the program to the final four. As well as inspire guys like Augustine, Gibson, and Durant to choose Texas over more historically strong basketball schools.

And I think Ivey, Pittman, Atchley, Gary Johnson, PJ Tucker, AJ Abrams,and Dogus Balbay have a problem with 4b.

To each his own is too nice GHG, this kind of post is ridiculous dribble. Seriously. Get a clue.

I am frustrated that we don’t have a title. We all are. But this kind of post is just ludicrous.

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by SwimTexas on Mar 31, 2011 10:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

I will say this

I never see us having a Kemba Walker type player. Meaning he was a reserve as a freshman and became a star as a junior. Almost all, with maybe the exception of Ivey were NBA caliber players when they entered Texas. We might not be the only school that produces these types of players, but there are definitely other schools that develop players better once they get on campus. Kansas comes to mind. Especially their bigs. I’m sure Danny Manning has a lot to do with that.

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by 2Cor12:9 on Mar 31, 2011 11:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

Huh?

Kemba Walker was a 5 star player (ranked 14 by Rivals) in 2008.

by Texas Wahoo on Apr 1, 2011 8:30 AM CDT up reply actions  

Exactly

This is the kind of stuff that comes from looking at the world through disappointed glasses. It was the same way with Mack until he won a championship.

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by SwimTexas on Apr 1, 2011 9:22 AM CDT up reply actions  

My point is he didn't come in and start right away for UCONN

unlike most of our star freshman. Hopefully Hamilton’s career will be somewhat parallel to Walker’s.

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by 2Cor12:9 on Apr 1, 2011 11:04 AM CDT up reply actions  

He didn't start

Because he was behind two studs in A.J. Price and Jerome Dyson. But he had a heavy impact on UConn’s team all year and was the first guy off the bench in the backcourt. I already knew who he was, but when he absolutely shredded Mizzou’s press in the Elite Eight as a true freshman, I was pretty sure he was going to be a big-time player. Had no idea he’d be as good as he is now though. I give huge credit to Kemba for working so hard to refine his shot, a big weakness in his first two years at UConn.

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by GoHornsGo90 on Apr 1, 2011 11:27 AM CDT up reply actions  

So

Is it that Calhoun sucks because he couldn’t turn the 14th ranked player in the country out of high school, a 5 star talent, into a significant starter until his 3rd year?

No, it is that Calhoun is awesome because 4 years later that guy is a POY candidate.

Our top 15, 5 star recruits were awesome their 1st year and went to the NBA… so Barnes sucks. (I know, over-simplifying your point)

Not picking on you specifically 2Cor, I just think that all of this griping just comes from looking at things through a negative lens because we haven’t won a championship. If we had won the title with Ford, instead of just the Final Four, I think we would have a different perspective on all of these things.

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by SwimTexas on Apr 1, 2011 11:38 AM CDT up reply actions  

The one and done thing

Is being overstated as well by a lot of people. KD and AB were the only guys to leave after a year and the former is arguably the best college basketball player ever. Transfers have been a far bigger problem for UT. The thought that we should stop recruiting those guys (top 25 talents) is ludicrous. Especially since the primary complaint with Barnes is his offensive acumen. He recruits stud offensive players to compensate for his lack of X’s and O’s ability on that side.

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by GoHornsGo90 on Apr 1, 2011 11:53 AM CDT up reply actions  

Hahaha

Well Brown wasn’t going to the NBA anytime soon, but you might be right about Jordan :)

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by GoHornsGo90 on Apr 1, 2011 4:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

Think you're right on

talking about how a player’s perception of himself influences his performance in the game. Thought that what I saw last night about Kabongo being overly unselfish carried over into the game today against Dwyer, when he was either on the bench or everything but assertive late when Dwyer was pulling away for the win.

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by Wescott Eberts (GoBR) on Mar 31, 2011 9:52 PM CDT reply actions  

Am pretty impressed so far

By Anthony Bennett from Findlay. Actually reminds me a lot of Jonathan Holmes. Seriously, when he’s your fourth or fifth best player, you really don’t have any excuse to be losing high school basketball games.

Ironically, Dwyer was one of my write-ups from SBN High School March Madness. I remember writing about Brissett, but I somehow don’t remember Joell James. Guy is ridiculously talented for a 6’10" Jr. Also forgot that Dwyer was Nick O’Leary’s team and Brissett is the QB who got screwed on that pass and sneak from the uber-controversial game earlier this year.

A quarter and a half in and it looks like Dwyer is doubling Myck every time he penetrates and leaving the shooter open.

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by GoHornsGo90 on Mar 31, 2011 10:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

Assertiveness can be coached.

It’s Rick’s job to teach a kid when it’s his time to score. It’s not always easy, but Durant also suffered from being overly unselfish until he realized the rest of the team was looking to him to create the offense.

At the PG position, Kabongo will need to understand how to best exploit the mismatch he will almost always have due to his quickness. Sometimes that will require him forcing the issue with his shot and other times it will be finding an open teammate. The worst thing that could happen is to limit his potential by saying one (pass or shoot) is always the right answer.

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by JYarbs on Apr 1, 2011 9:02 AM CDT up reply actions  

You may be right

But Barnes is not the best guy to do it. He turned Justin Mason from a confident true freshman who had star written all over him into a timid mouse by the end of his second year. And he did the same thing with Bradley last year. I’m not a fan at all of the way Barnes plays his mind games with his players (something that seemed to make more sense this year), but if you are strong enough to tough it out, you’re ready for anything.

We’re really, really lucky that guys like JCB and Jordan are so confident and dead set on excelling.

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by GoHornsGo90 on Apr 1, 2011 11:32 AM CDT up reply actions  

Brad Beal reminds me of Josh Selby

and Myck Kabongo’s game reminds me of former UCLA point guard Darren Collison.

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by 2Cor12:9 on Mar 31, 2011 11:50 PM CDT reply actions  

while last nights game showed some weaknesses I would not say that all around he is much better that what he showed last night

Last night when i watched the game Kabongo seemed so focused on getting his teammates involved that it hurt his game. He is one of those players thats puts little value into the overall weight of an all star game and is simply focused on having fun. When it gets down to it though he performs, even though he was off today, I would say that it would be an anomaly from his performance this year. Yes he needs to improve on his finishing but by no means is he a slouch scorer, he consistently puts up 15- 20 points/ game. He is also a brilliant passer as he showed last night so he looks to that first before he shoots. I am also excited about his blazing speed, the fast break with him is not even fair because he beats everyone down the floor. Also he is thin so once he gets in a college weight program he should add a couple pounds of muscle which will make his outside shot easier and make it easier to finish at the rim. I can’t wait to see him at Texas, he has the handles and flair of skip to my lou (rafer alston) which I love, nba athleticism, and will be a lead guard that will be a top 10 pick in a year or two (hopefully two)

by CanadianHorn on Apr 1, 2011 1:18 AM CDT reply actions  

Great breakdown

Other than the NBA athleticism. That’s the biggest knock on Myck regarding the next-next level. You can improve your jump shot, but you can’t improve your jumping ability (well, you can, but his is never going to be great for an NBA guard). It won’t hurt him as much since he’ll be drafted at around 6’2".

Really good comparison to Skip. Myck would be a fantastic playground player.

You hit on his focus on getting his teammates involved—definitely true and he needs to just take the layup when it’s there. He mentioned something about the assist record a while back, so I’d assume that’s why he was so intent on passing the ball off. That needs to end at UT. I don’t trust our interior players’ other than TT (hopefully) to be able to catch his passes.

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by GoHornsGo90 on Apr 1, 2011 11:39 AM CDT up reply actions  

*players

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by GoHornsGo90 on Apr 1, 2011 11:42 AM CDT up reply actions  

Thanks for the intelligent reply

As far as nba athleticism is concerned, I think he had some of it. He has nba quickness, speed and length and is commited to the defensive side of the ball. He can’t jump out of gym, but that is not really his game. He is not a westbrook or rose, he is more like a rondo. In comparison to TJ Ford I seriously don’t think that duplicating TJ Ford’s sophomore numbers would be out of the question at all (here are TJ college stats- http://statsheet.com/mcb/players/player/texas/tj-ford/2001-2002 ) In fact I think that he will develop into a better pg than TJ in the nba because he is a hard worker and committed to improving his game which TJ lacked once he reached the next level. I think his skill set and potential can translate to the best guard Texas has ever had.

by CanadianHorn on Apr 1, 2011 1:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

because he never really got better

his best season was 06-07 in Toronto averagin 14 ppg, 8 ast. His other solid seasons were in 05-06 12ppg and 6.6ast, 07-08 12ppg 6ast, 08-09 15ppg 5.3ast before starting his decline in 09-10 with 10ppg and 4ast. His career plateaud after 05-06, he never made an all star game and never really showed the potential he displayed when in college at Texas. It’s a solid nba career but that’s all it is, when he had the potential to be much better. His shooting which was always his weakness improved from college but he only shot above 45% fg in 2 seasons. Derrick rose and rondo on the other hand so were also criticized for their shooting in college have worked hard and are much better shooters. Rose has improved his 3 point percentage by 7% and rondo after shooting 42% in his first season has been averaging around 50% his last 4. This improvement is what TJ never showed in the nba.

by CanadianHorn on Apr 1, 2011 2:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

"Rose has improved his 3 point percentage by 7% and rondo after shooting 42% in his first season has been averaging around 50% his last 4."

TJ Ford improved his shooting percentage every year for his first four years in the league (from 38% to 47%) [Not counting 04-05 beacuse he missed the entire season]. He shot 45% the next year before his body began to break down again and hasn’t played more than 50 games in a season since then.

It appears to me that TJ Ford did work on his shot a great deal, but was eventually done in by health issues. I don’t see any evidence of a lack of hard work or committment on his part.

by Texas Wahoo on Apr 1, 2011 3:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well the stats dont lie so I will concede the argument on the improvement and hard work

But I will say that I had these conceptions because watching him he never really seemed like he was living up to his potential or that he was an elite pg. Yes he improved but it never led him to any success in the nba. I know Texas fans have a soft spot for TJ and can put him up on a pedestal but if we’re being honest I think Myck Kabongo will become a better player than him. That’s all I originally meant when I compared him to TJ. As far as injuries are concerned, TJ made a full recovery from the spinal cord injury and continued to improve into 05-06, also he fully recovered from his injury in Toronto. As far as any other injuries I really don’t know because I haven’t followed his career all that closely. As far a my comment on hisc hard work, it was probably shortsided because I didn’t have the research but thanks for pointing this out to me

by CanadianHorn on Apr 1, 2011 3:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

I always though TJ was pretty short to make it in the NBA as a star.

I never really expected him to become an elite NBA PG. Smaller stature is easier to deal with in the college game than in the NBA. Also, it’s not like Ford has ever played on a team nearly as good as any of Rondo’s Celtics teams.

by Texas Wahoo on Apr 1, 2011 5:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

Your right his frame did hold him back

maybe 15 years ago he would have been fine, but being 6 foot nothing, 165 in todays super athletic nba makes it much harder for a player. Yes your right that rondo has played with better players (kg, allen, pierce) but the last two years I think you could say that the celtics go as rondo goes. If you need any proof see their last 15 games and rondo’s splits- it’s not pretty.

by CanadianHorn on Apr 2, 2011 2:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

If he were actually six feet tall he'd be fine

He isn’t a shade over 5’10". Neither is Augustin, for that matter, but he has a much bigger frame and can shoot. Walked by D.J. one time back when I was in high school (I was around 6 then) and I towered over him.

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by GoHornsGo90 on Apr 2, 2011 11:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

really i got that from that site

his height or lack thereof would certainly explain it though

by CanadianHorn on Apr 3, 2011 11:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

That is an amazing

Website for stats. I can’t believe I’ve never been there before.

I’m not sure if you meant for Myck to duplicate T.J.‘s sophomore stats in his freshman or sophomore year, but I really don’t see a chance for him to do it as a freshman. 15 points on such a scoring-heavy team next year would be pretty hard to accomplish. It would likely mean that Hamilton and Thompson both declared and that most of the other freshman were having extremely small impacts. Derrick Rose didn’t even average 15 points per game as a freshman (14.7 IIRC) and he didn’t have the offensive supporting cast that Myck should have next year.

I agree Myck’s game projects better to the NBA.

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by GoHornsGo90 on Apr 1, 2011 5:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

I completely agree

It would be astonishing for him to average 15ppg next year especially if TT and Hamilton return. He will still be making the transition and those two will dominate the scoring too much for him to make a scoring impact. In his sophomore year when TT and Hamilton are probably gone (and maybe Jcovan) I think he will be more assertive because he wont have them to delegate to.

by CanadianHorn on Apr 2, 2011 2:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yes

This is exactly what I am expecting as well.

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by GoHornsGo90 on Apr 2, 2011 11:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well

He won’t be the sophomore version of T.J., but I think he can replicate his 10 and 8 numbers as a true frosh and throw in 4-6 rebounds as well. Honestly, I wouldn’t be at all shocked if he spit out a triple double next year. Very innate and willing rebounder. Really helps the team on the break since he doesn’t have to wait for the outlet pass and can run faster than the ball can be passed anyway. I’ll be mildly surprised if he doesn’t lead the conference in steals too. Intense defender with cat-like reflexes.

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by GoHornsGo90 on Apr 1, 2011 11:44 AM CDT reply actions  

Sorry

This was a reply to Erasmus.

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