Question of the Day: Does Mario Edwards Have More Value At DE or DT?
by Wescott Eberts (GoBR) on Mar 7, 2011 4:31 PM CST
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Denton Ryan DE Mario Edwards, Jr. is in the discussion as one of the top 2012 prospects in Texas. The son of former Dallas Cowboys DB Mario Edwards, Sr., the Ryan star is also one of the top Longhorn targets in the class.
Known for his combination of size and speed, as well as an ability to do standing backfips, the concern with Edwards is his weight. When Orangebloods stopped by Ryan on Monday, Edwards weighed in at 288 pounds on his 6-4 frame -- the size of some college defensive tackles.
Edwards has been insistent that he's a defensive end in college and has gone as far as to effectively eliminate teams playing 3-4 defenses from consideration. But if he ends up entering college at around 300 pounds, there's no question that he's going to end up playing inside. So at this point, unless he starts shedding some weight, Edwards looks like a future DT.
The Question of the Day, then, is this: Does Edwards have more value at DE or DT?
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I am just really, really, really, glad that I'm not responsible for feeding him.
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by OnMySignal on Mar 7, 2011 4:42 PM CST reply actions 2 recs
Effectively eliminated colleges that play 3-4 defenses..
Why would he do that? Wouldn’t he more suited to play as a defensive end in a defense running an 3-4 because he is so heavy? If anything,I would figure those would be the teams willing to chance him on DE.
He believes he's an edge rusher
just like Austin Seferian-Jenkins believes he’s a TE.
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by Wescott Eberts (GoBR) on Mar 7, 2011 4:51 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
What year do you think ASJ makes the move to OT?
I’m betting 3rd year in the program
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by Thomas Bangalter on Mar 7, 2011 6:16 PM CST up reply actions
For the record
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by Wescott Eberts (GoBR) on Mar 7, 2011 4:50 PM CST reply actions
I don't really care about how much he weights.
I care more about where he is most effective. Wherever he goes, his coaches are going to have to evaluate this. There’s no written rule that says DEs are less than 280 lbs. If he is the best DE on the planet and he weighs 320, then let him play there if he wants to. Every time I saw Reggie White destroy OTs off the edge, I would swear he was a DT coming from an inside stunt. He looked so huge. Maybe his size was why he was so amazing at the DE position.
I think the question should be, how does Edwards not play DT in college?
If Edwards is at 288, there has to be some bad weight there. There could be some hope that Edwards sheds some pounds before his senior season.
However, I think Edwards might have already outgrown DE in a 4-3. There’s been a lot of talk about Edwards spinning down in college even before Orangebloods weighed him today.
I hope Edwards works hard and keeps his weight around 260.
It might be time to bring in Fields for a visit, and send Manny out to Mississippi to recruit Channing Ward because Edwards as an edge rusher is looking very questionable right now.
by billfromlaketravis on Mar 7, 2011 5:11 PM CST reply actions
Thanks for the info/update, Big Roy
To me It’s not a question of value if he weighs 288. Whatever he wants to believe — and whatever some coach tells him — at that size, he’s a tackle. Seems to me he needs to mix in a visit to Jenny Craig State along with the FSU’s and UT’s on his agenda. He’d probably be a killer college end at 270.
More to the point: We still need a rush/buck end in the 2012 class.
There are exceptions, of course
Mario Williams was a pretty amazing end at 290lbs. or more at NC State. However, that was (reportedly) his weight when he left college, whereas Edwards is (reportedly) about that weight before he even finishes his junior year of high school.
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by burntorangehorn on Mar 7, 2011 5:35 PM CST up reply actions
Sweet Niblets. You made me laugh.
There is not a situation or individual that cannot be improved by the addition of chocolate.
I never really understood the love affair
with Edwards. I saw him play in the state championship and came away a bit underwhelmed. That is not to say there are not tools there and some impressive things about him but I didn’t think the same thing about him that I thought about Clowney, Jeffcoat, Wilson.
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I thought Jeffcoat played better as a freshman than as a senior in HS
You just never know b/c he looked a lot better as a freshman at Tx than any time at West
You mean to tell me
that natural law intervened and a player made a jump in play from his Senior year in high school to his freshman year in college? Weird….
Anyways, I just never saw the “explosive” first step with Edwards that everyone talks about. Thought he was a good player but not as transcendent as he was made out to be.
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LT played well
Edwards left a trail of tears behind him during the entire 2010 season.
Never Rule Out Freakishness
I would not let a paradigm about weight dictate my thoughts. If the kid can bring it at that size – all they power to him. Let him get after the QB with that size, speed, and athleticism. From what I understand, he will be someone else’s project anyway.
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why is he so insistent on being an edge rusher???
…who ever is handling his recruitment should have a conversation with the kid that sometimes the body ends up determining where you end up…
i think an important thing to have in a kid that is recruited is maturity. things happen in life, a lot of them unplanned. rather than getting a kid who might start throwing a tantrum whenever things dont work out for him, id much rather take a kid who is willing to work his butt off where ever he ends up and has the maturity of thought to know that we cant have everything we want in life and thats ok cuz sometimes its for the best…
i say that unless the kid shows some maturity OR loses enough weight to be a legit DE soon, we move on…
ive said this before and ill say it again, no talent is good enough for us to lose our morals (not applicable in this case obviously) and no one should be taken whose immaturity can cause the virus of poor attitude (crying, bitching, tantrums, etc)…
by vanterminatorhorn on Mar 7, 2011 6:45 PM CST reply actions
Probably his father
The former NFL player. I’d assume he knows something about football. My two cents is he’s never going to be a great edge rusher due to his lack of initial burst off the line, regardless of how much he weighs. That said, 288 at this point is almost impossible to imagine for a DE in high school.
Where do you get the idea that he's immature?
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by burntorangehorn on Mar 7, 2011 9:43 PM CST up reply actions
i never said that...
…please read what i wrote. i asked who was handling his recruitment, and then stated something that is general, and MIGHT apply in this case, later, doesnt for sure now.
i just think that if he keeps insisting for the sake of getting what he wants, i can see that as being immaturity, but again, he hasnt shown a sign of insistence beyond reason..
hopefully that made sense. i dont mean to say anything about the kid, esp because i know nothing about these
by vanterminatorhorn on Mar 9, 2011 3:57 PM CST up reply actions
Big loss if he goes with FSU
Doesn’t matter how hard we try to rationalize it.
That's fine but just as long as he doesn't go to ou, a&m, or anybody else in the big 12-2, it'll be fine.
It hurts not to have the top talent on the team but, if UT doesn’t have to play him once a year, that’ll take part of the sting out of losing him.
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