Johnathan Gray Discusses Texas Commitment
Worried about Johnathan Gray transitioning to college game? Whether or not he has the drive and desire to be the best, to succeed at the highest level at the highest level of collegiate football?
If you are, no doubt you are in the extreme minority of Texas fans, but try this on for size. On Friday morning, Gray showed up at the Aledo facility to work out only hours after making his commitment to Texas public in the early minutes of his 18th birthday. Head coach Tim Buchanan told Gray that he could sit out of the morning session to prepare for his press conference around 9 am. Gray declined.
Not one to go half-speed through the work out despite being given the out by his coach, Gray cracked off a blazing hand-timed 4.29 40. Hand-timed, but still -- the stuff of legends.
Point being, Gray isn't a five-star recruit because of natural skill alone. He works hard to maximize that talent, too, which bodes well for him having success when he dons the burnt orange and white in roughly 16 months that can't come quickly enough for the majority of the Longhorn fanbase.
Until then, another five-star running back, 2011 commit Malcolm Brown, will have to suffice. Turns out, though, that Brown may be just as excited as the average Texas fan to get Gray onto campus. Standing on the field at Jerryworld before their own state championship game, Brown and his head coach at Cibolo Steele, Mike Jinks, watched as Gray ripped off a state-record eight touchdowns in Aledo's victory over La Marque.
Following Gray's commitment, Jinks recalled the words of his own superstar during the historic performance:
I remember him saying, "Wouldn't it be awesome if we got a chance to be in the same backfield at Texas?" I told him, "I tell you what, if there's anything you can do to help him get there, I'd do it if I were you."
It's not clear just how much Brown did to facilitate Gray's pledge, but the two did have a chance to talk while attending a Texas spring practice and again at the spring game and most observers predict a mutually-beneficial pairing.
Count Jinks in that group:
It's going to work out well for both of them. Each of them will have a more successful career because of the other. No doubt, you need two guys back there.
Brenham head coach Glen West, too, who cited the combination of Eric Dickerson and Craig James at SMU back in the 1980s.
Other more recent backfield duos spring quickly to the mind -- Trent Richardson and Mark Ingram at Alabama, Reggie Bush and LenDale White at USC, Ronnie Brown and Cadillac Williams at Auburn, Laurence Maroney and Marion Barber at Minnesota. The list goes on and on
Given his pledge, Gray is buying into the combination of he and Brown as well:
I think we'll do great. He's a dominant back and I'm a dominant back. You just put two and two together, we'll make each other better and just try to win a national championship.
Heartening comments, certainly, but they don't get to the root of why Gray was sitting in the Aledo facility last Friday morning throwing his horns up.
The answer to that may sound like a cliche for Longhorn recruitniks: the family atmosphere fostered by Mack Brown and his staff, which Buchanan said Gray kept comparing to the atmosphere at Aledo.
I chose Texas because I feel they are part of my family. Just going up there and talking to the coaches, going around to the facilities, the atmosphere that they have and the type of players they recruit it's just overwhelming. I felt like that's where I wanted to go and that's my home.
Like Brenham teammates Tim Cole and Malcom Brown, the spring game atmosphere with all the commits from the 2012 class in attendance helped Gray experience that family feeling and put Texas over the top.
The commitments of the two Brenham stars may have even helped solidify Gray's desire to pledge to Texas. During his press conference -- which can be seen at ESPN -- Gray mentioned that he made his decision when he "saw all the players I've played with and against" at the spring game, calling them "a great group of players and just good people all around."
As his opponents in the 2009 state title game against Brenham, Cole and Brown definitely fall into the category of players Gray has gone against during his career. Gray also faced off against 2011 Texas commit Taylor Doyle last September in a match-up of defending 4A champs at Lake Travis and has no doubt faced other commits during 7-on-7, at camps, and even in track.
For Longhorn running backs coach Major Applewhite, landing Gray a year after proving to skeptics that he could land a high-profile recruit at a position he never played is even more conclusive evidence that the best backs in Texas are willing to play for him.
Applewhite was in attendance at the press conference and James Gray revealed that the honesty of the former Texas quarterback stood out to him during the process, saying that despite his son's prodigious talent, Applewhite never made any promises of playing time in an effort to lure the star back to Austin.
Buchanan called the relationship between Applewhite and Gray "great" and said that Mack Brown and Applewhite staying through the coaching changes "sealed the deal for Johnathan."
Gray chose Texas over a number of offers from around the country, but eventually narrowed his list down to Texas, TCU, and Texas A&M. At the press conference, Gray compared calling the other coaches to "breaking up with your girlfriend."
"Coach Sherman, coach Patterson: I'm sorry, it's not you, it's me. You're great, really, it's just that there's another coach, another school. We have good chemistry."
That coach is Mack Brown and that school is Texas.
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Patterson and Sherman: The Jilted Girlfriends
I’m sure young Mr. Gray didn’t intend to install new monikers for the coaches of little brother and the pet frogs, but personally – I like it.
If the world was a school, we'd be homecoming king...
Could be the start of MNC in 2013
This is very exciting – the combination of Brewer, Brown, and Gray could be very special. The only thing that bothers me is that you really have to your OL 2 classes ahead of your RBs due to the developmental time frame. We have not recruitied well there. 2 years ahead of Gray you have Espinosa and Hopkins – period.
Change isn't good or bad it just "is". Don Draper of Madmen
In the Statesman article
that had the quotes from Mike Jinks and Glen West, West added that he thought that having running backs like Gray and Brown, but referencing Gray in particular, would help the offensive line because they know they don’t have to do much to give Gray the crease that he can turn into a touchdown. Just get in someone’s way, basically. Hopefully there is something to that line of thinking.
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by Wescott Eberts (GoBR) on Apr 26, 2011 11:07 AM CDT up reply actions
Hopefully they're more about 'pancakes' than 'get in someone's way' ... but I definitely get it.
Maybe we should contact the old Detroit Lions & Dallas Cowboys O Lines for blocking tips since that’s pretty much how they always blocked for Barry & Emmitt. Just put a pad on someone. Come to think of it, Barry (JG) & Emmitt (MB) may be an apt comparison to our new Sons of Thunder backfield, with fullback credit given to Joe Bergeron & Darrell Johnston as well.
Funny you should mention the Cowboys
Out offense sort of now takes a page from the Dallas offense of the 80’s with the power I and lots of motion. The more things change…
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by SpiritOfTheFedora on Apr 27, 2011 12:08 PM CDT up reply actions
What about Walters and Kelly?
Wouldn’t they be seniors in 2013?
It is time for another "class of beef" to lead these guys to the goal line.
With these guys in the back field they should want to clear the way! Stay thirsty my friends.
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Good write up
Gray’s talent as a pass catcher is often overlooked. J Gray had 450+ yards receiving last year and 8 touchdowns. Complete back. Period.
J Gray will give whatever QB that is throwing to him a dynamic safety blanket. Gray could easily turn a 3 yard check down into a touchdown. Wow, what a home run threat.
I’d add that Texas’ likely 2013 RB target DeSoto’s Dontre Wilson is also an excellent pass catcher, 4.4 burner and home threat. The days of Texas running backs with stone hands are seeing their last days.
by billfromlaketravis on Apr 26, 2011 8:31 AM CDT reply actions
Bill and GoBR,
We have to go after 2 next year, right? Taking 1 back a year for the last 3 years (although I think maybe Bergeron will have multiple uses in the HarsinWhite offense) is going to take its toll.
We will be 1 injury away from extreme thin-ness at RB in 2 years, and 2 injuries away from total disaster.
I have heard great things about Dontre, and we will definitely need a burner once Hills, Monroe, etc leave. But we have to be looking at multiple guys for 2013…. Do you agree?
"A lot of people look for the easy way to do anything, in swimming there is no easy way." - Eddie Reese
Not sure how exactly that will play out at running back.
I think Wilson is a good fit because of his versatility, which bflt mentioned. I guess the other guy could be a solid, Mack Brown type of kid for depth purposes.
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by Wescott Eberts (GoBR) on Apr 26, 2011 11:09 AM CDT up reply actions
Glad to hear Texas may pursue 2 RBs in 2013
I have argued many times that Texas should have taken Johnathan Gray AND Allen’s Jonathan Williams in 2012. I have no idea how this would have sat with the Grays, but Texas could take J. Williams and redshirt him in 2012 and take Dontre Wilson in 2013.
J. Williams and Dontre Wilson would essentially be in the same class with 4 years of eligibility.
I think Bergeron will take some of the carries workload. 5 – 10 carries a game might be the right number for Bergeron. I think Bergeron will take over the Cody Johnson late game, bleed the clock, hammer role in 2012.
Depending on how comfortable Texas feels with Bergeron in the carries mix will likely determine if they take another back in 2013. Bergeron at FB / H Back / TB would be spreading him pretty thin.
I think Texas will need to take 2 running backs in 2013, after only taking one in 2012. I hope one of the RBs is Dontre Wilson and the other running back as talented as Jonathan Williams. I hope that kid is out there. Jonathan Williams was ripe for the taking in my opinion.
It’s silly to complain about the running back depth chart after getting a commitment from Johnathan Gray.
by billfromlaketravis on Apr 26, 2011 1:45 PM CDT up reply actions
Good stuff
I will be curious to see how this plays out. I agree it is silly to talk about needs at RB after getting the best in the country 2 years in a row. But someone pointed out the following on the ’Cosm:
This will be our RB depth chart in 2 years: (Unless there are redshirts that I do not know about)
FR – Gray
SO – Brown / Bergeron
JR – Shead
SR – Whaley (now a DE)
If Bergeron is not used at RB, that leaves us a 4 year group moving forward with only 3 RB’s in it. While the quality is obvious, that is not a lot of depth.
I think 2013 has to have at least 2 names beside it. The Whaley eval/deal is just killer.
"A lot of people look for the easy way to do anything, in swimming there is no easy way." - Eddie Reese
Dont forget about.............
DJ Monroe, he should be a senior at that time.
by LongandHorny on Apr 26, 2011 2:57 PM CDT up reply actions
Also, Jeremy Hills redshirted last year, his junior year
so in 2012, he’ll be a senior.
Hills and Monroe
would be great as depth. Did not know we were using Monroe as a tailback. And I did not know Hills redshirted, so that is great.
Guys with their speed and ball skills could have multiple uses.
Still think we need 2 next year.
"A lot of people look for the easy way to do anything, in swimming there is no easy way." - Eddie Reese
Any coach that can get Monroe involved and productive ...
… will get his ‘props’ from me. I think that GD tried to get him involved somewhat but he & Mack still had issues with DJ’s lack of blocking, ball security, interior running effectiveness, etc… I can’t blame ‘em too much for not using him. Just seeing how FLA used Percy Harvin, however, I know that Monroe can be used too. W/ Harsin & Applewhite taking over, I really expect him to get some touches in space and for them to stay with it until he breaks out in perfomance. He’s way too good of a talent to not be utilized now that he’s a ‘seasoned veteran’, esp. in the strength program. Dude’s fast as lightning but also seems to be very tough running the ball against LBs & DBs in the open field.
Funny but true.
It’s silly to complain about the running back depth chart after getting a commitment from Johnathan Gray.
Regardless, that’s what we like to do here at BON. We’re Texas … and … We’re Spoiled.
by robthecob on Apr 26, 2011 5:05 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Bergeron
I’ve heard he’s going to be special and may have a faster impact than Brown.
Bergeron is just good
He’s GREAT. Watched him in the Texas vs. The World game and he was a man amongst boys.
Dont' be such a baby.
I get where you're coming from BFLT
but, I’d like to avoid any 3 yard passes for a while in memory of GD…
I would add that
Gray was decent in pass protection when I saw him against Lake Travis last fall, but I would like him to pack a little more punch there with his hands. He’s no Tre’ Newton in that respect, but I think he’ll be effective there in college.
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by Wescott Eberts (GoBR) on Apr 26, 2011 11:43 AM CDT up reply actions
Can't wait for this kid to get on campus
I love his attitude. And he looks the part. I don’t know what y’all looked like when you turned 18, but I sure didn’t look like Johnathan. That is a grown man there.
But I do want to pop one balloon, because the conventional wisdom of 40 times has always been a burr under my saddle. This article says it better than I could:
In short, if he (or any other prospect) ran an actual 4.29, they’d be one hundredth of a second slower than the fastest official time ever run by a human:
But it is another Canadian, Ben Johnson, who is believed to have run 40 yards faster than any human in history. Johnson is best known for injecting copious amounts of steroids and winning the 100 meters at the 1988 Olympics in Seoul in 9.79 seconds, only to have his gold medal and world record stripped after failing a post-race drug test.
Timing officials have since broken down that famed race into 10-meter increments, and Johnson was so preposterously fast that he went through 50 meters in 5.52 seconds and 60 meters in 6.37 – both under the current world records at those distances. He went through 40 yards that day in 4.38 seconds.
Which is all to say, 40 times are bullshit. But Gray can run any distance he wants on my team, any time he wants. Welcome to the 40.
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He went through 40 yards that day in 4.38 seconds.
While I completely agree most 40 yard dash times quoted regarding recruits are bs it seems an invalid assuption that Johnson ran the world’s fastes 40 that day based upon his 50 & 60 yard times. No?
There is a big difference in running a 40 yard dash
and a 100 meter dash. In most Olympic sprinters, they accelerate the whole run until they cross the finish line. Maybe I read it wrong but that means he finished his last 40 meters in a time of 3.42 seconds, which is alot faster than his 0-40 yards, which was at 4.38.
We’re comparing apples to oranges here in terms of speed, distance, and running styles.
I will agree that Gray probably didnt run a 4.29, because it was hand timed. Regardless, the kid is a beast.
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You both raise a good point
I can’t claim that I didn’t mean to turn this thread into a digression on 40 times, cause that’s exactly what I did. And let’s not even get into the question of who determined that 40 yards — in shorts, not pads — was to be the magic determinant of football speed. Or the fact that we include hundredths of seconds when we report 40 times, which is just absurd. It takes 0.3 seconds to blink, and a thumb on a stopwatch is not faster than that.
Anyway, 40 times are BS. That is all. Sorry to hijack y’alls thread.
God I can’t wait to talk about actual, real football again…
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by windycityhorn on Apr 26, 2011 12:09 PM CDT up reply actions
Sub 4.3's at the NFL Combine
4.24 – Rondel Melendez, (WR), Eastern Kentucky – 1999
4.28 – Jerome Mathis, (WR), Hampton – 2005
4.28 – *Champ Bailey, (CB), Georgia – 1999
4.29 – Stanford Routt, (CB), Houston – 2005
4.29 – Jay Hinton, (RB), Morgan State – 1999
4.29 – *Fabian Washington, (CB), Nebraska – 2005
4.30 – Yamon Figurs
Bo Jackson and D. Sanders are supposed to have run the 2 fastest ever, but for some reason they are not recognized.
According to legend
Bo Jackson ran like a 4.12, but that has got to be bs.
Darrell Green ran a 4.43......
On his 50th birthday. Wonder what he really ran when he was younger. He supposedly routinely ran sub 4.2 40s
by LongandHorny on Apr 26, 2011 3:19 PM CDT up reply actions
Fastest 100m times by NFL players
Bob Hayes – 10.05
Darrell Green – 10.08
If Jeffrey Demps makes the NFL he’ll have the fastest at 10.01.
According to wikipedia
Trindon Holliday ran a 10.02 in college, and a 4.27 40 at the combine.
Though I think he's on the Texan's practice squad
not their 53 man roster, so I guess that doesn’t count.
I believe both of theirs were not electronically timed.
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-- Major Applewhite
Actually those are just since 1999
Gridiron studs lists 36 sub 4.3 players
http://www.gridironstuds.com/blog/the-fastest-40-yard-dash-ever/
Dumb thumb on the watch
Reminds me of a hilarious event of my youth.
Fall of ‘65, I’m a junior, and my rural Texas school district has just integrated. O’dell is suddenly a senior in my PE class. There are rumors he’s 21 (with two kids), held back multiple times, and he does look 5 years older. The coach is casting a covetous eye on O’dell who looks like he’s been bailing hay since he was four—most chiseled body I ever saw. The two football coaches drop by our class to cast greedy eyes (all three coaches being closer to butter knives than steak knives when it comes to sharpness), and they ask O’Dell to run a hundred-yard dash for them. Sure thing.
So, O’Dell, on “GO,” rips off a 40 (it’s for football after all), pulls to a halt and starts walking, hands on hips, until he sees the coaches waving him on. He takes off running—just running, not sprinting. As he crosses the line, the coaches gather around the stopwatch, then, their faces all awash with excitement, the head coach yells out for all to hear, “ten point five!”
By then, O’Dell has circled over by us. He hears the time, then gives us a comical look and says, “Them’s some dumb sons of bitches.”
by OldTimeHorn on Apr 26, 2011 12:34 PM CDT up reply actions
4.29 may be BS
but 8 TD’s in a state championship game says it all for me. I didn’t know the dude can catch, too, those are great receiving numbers for a stud RB. I think we’re into something special with MB and Gray. Looking back at 50 years of Texas football I’m not sure we’ve had this type of incoming talent at RB in terms of a tandem. Major is one very happy position coach right now.
Hopefully the OT’s will start falling, then we’re set. It shouldn’t be long now.
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by SpiritOfTheFedora on Apr 27, 2011 12:25 PM CDT up reply actions
Worster followed the next year by Bertelsen comes close
Mitchell and Williams would be hard to beat, but Shon was two years ahead of Ricky. Leaks and Campbell were three years apart, if I remember correctly. Plus, Bertelsen wasn’t recruited; he came down from Wisconsin on his own. So, I can’t recall any back-to-back running tandems of comparable talent. Let’s just hope when Gray goes to the NFL in five years, those two own all the Texas records.
by OldTimeHorn on Apr 27, 2011 12:56 PM CDT up reply actions
Leaks and Campbell
Leaks was an All-American his junior year in 1973 then shared carries with the Earl during Campbell’s freshman season. Campbell’s 900 yards that year meant that Leaks would not attain All-American status during his senior year, going from 1415 yards and 6.2 ypc in 1973 to 409 yards and 4.3 ypc in 1974. Leaks actually trailed Gralyn Wyatt and finished fourth on the team in rushing that year. That dramatic drop in production cost him a lot of money in the NFL draft.
That year was very perplexing to me. Marty Akins, the starting QB in 1974, threw for 250 yards, something like 40% completion pct, for the entire year. On 19 completions. His backup, Mike Presley, hit less than 30% of his passes. A result of DKR’s “When you throw the ball three things can happen and two of them are bad” philosophy.
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by SpiritOfTheFedora on Apr 27, 2011 1:27 PM CDT up reply actions
'74 was the last good year for Royal
Leaks was awesome in ’74. Last year I went to most of the games. I remember a ten-yard run where he picked up three or four tacklers within a yard or two of the line of scrimmage. The man was a bull.
’75 and ’76 were upsetting with all the talk of Royal having lost it and the team struggling. It was tough to see Royal retire, but most thought Akers was a good pick. He certainly started off gangbusters. And Campbell was awesome. I saw him carry multiple tacklers numerous times. When we got ND in the Cotton Bowl with the NC in reach, I thought REVENGE for the ’70 season. Instead, another dagger in the heart.
GoBR
Have you heard any updates on M. Brown? Is he staying in shape? He seems to keep things really quiet.
No updates on him.
Bennie Wylie has given him a workout plan to follow, so there aren’t any excuses for not being in shape.
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by Wescott Eberts (GoBR) on Apr 26, 2011 1:54 PM CDT up reply actions
spring game
ESPN showed a glimpse of him and looked like he was in shape.
Development
I suppse I am in the minority. I have a lot of hope for Gray, but I am not ready to say this guy is gonna carry our team to the promise land. In my opinion(which not even worth two cents) we have a development problem for our running backs. Our backs now didnt have as much hype out of highschool as Gray,but they arent scrubs by any means, and they have been essentially useless. There are a ton of theories to why our running attack has been terrible and that subject has been beaten to death. At some point a little fault has to come down on our coaching up of the backs. Hopefully that will improve with the new coaching staff, but I still believe its a little early to say Gray is the answer. I think if he arrives at Texas and does not get the coaching then he will be moderately effective like the rest of our stable of running backs. I love his work ethic though.
by horninraidercountry on Apr 26, 2011 1:56 PM CDT reply actions
My opinion (probably worth even less than yours)
Is that is has much more to do with talent evaluation/selection and OL performance than development. To a large extent I don’t think you can teach the things that make a RB special – they either have it or they don’t. The things that can be taught, ball security, blitz pickup, etc. I think we have done a very good job of the last few years. In 2009 we went the entire year with zero lost fumbles by a running back.
I agree with what you are saying. I think if OL performs great then it really wont matte who is running the ball. I think the back is important when you OL is not having a good game. Teams that can run no matter the OL are the teams that have amazing running games. I think some holes were there last year but fozzy likes to go outside, Cody dances to much before the hole, and DJ was hated by the person of which I do not speak. I think some coaching can correct those problems and make the back more effective. I think the difference between COJO being ok,and Javorski Lane being a monster is how each running back hits the hole. Coaching can be utilized to assit a players skills that already exist. The backs coming out of highschool have the skill, they just need the coaching to assit them. If I am wrong I will eat crow all season long as we run up 250 yarda a game, and I will be happy as I am eating.
by horninraidercountry on Apr 26, 2011 2:13 PM CDT up reply actions
Development is overrated for RB's
With the limited amount of practice time you have in college evaluation becomes so much more important. We simply have not recruited any elite backs since JC until now.
Elite running backs and WR’s will generally shine their freshman and soph years unlike the big uglies who need more time to develop their bodies, technique and chemistry with the other members of the OL. It’s more for them the term ‘development’ applies, as a group.
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by SpiritOfTheFedora on Apr 27, 2011 12:36 PM CDT up reply actions
your comment is generally true for all offensive skill positions
Great players will look average or just good, good players will look average or worse in a bad scheme that isn’t coached or executed well.
Gray alone won’t change a thing if the team plays like it did in 2010. But if the entire offense improves, Gray will do a lot more with his touches than would a lesser back.
He is a singular talent. That combination of speed, balance, and awareness just shouldn’t exist for a person his size.
You heard it here first:
Wishbone gimmick package
by Tackchevy on Apr 26, 2011 2:38 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
Awesome
John Harris running the ‘Wild Wishbone’.
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by SpiritOfTheFedora on Apr 27, 2011 12:43 PM CDT up reply actions
Haven't heard anything about it.
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by Wescott Eberts (GoBR) on Apr 26, 2011 5:42 PM CDT up reply actions
He should considering he'll be 19 at this time next year.
Or he could just do what some Duke basketball recruit just did and announce that he will be enrolling this fall. Now that would be awesome!
Do not be distracted by what you see, but be transformed by what you believe.
If we can get back to this
I think that we will be one hell of a train to stop. Here’s to hoping Johnathan Gray/Malcom Brown/Joe Bergeron have the same experience and success Ricky had on the 40…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NpH-GyNLCGY&feature=related
T.L.
by BurntOrangeVeins on Apr 26, 2011 5:43 PM CDT reply actions
Is it just me
Or does number 19 on the left side of that picture look like he just caught sight of a full moon and is about to turn into a werewolf?
by KratosWasASooner on Apr 26, 2011 7:37 PM CDT reply actions
That's kicker Justin Tucker
And yeah, I can see that.
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by Wescott Eberts (GoBR) on Apr 26, 2011 9:18 PM CDT up reply actions
Hey, check out that moon... wait..
Something’s.. happening… to me.
by KratosWasASooner on Apr 27, 2011 1:32 PM CDT reply actions
100%
That was meant to be a reply to GoBR.
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