Tim Cole, Malcom Brown Commit To Texas, Send Aggies Reeling
How quickly things change in recruiting.
Thought to be all but committed to Texas A&M only weeks ago, the star Brenham duo of linebacker Tim Cole and defensive tackle Malcom Brown ended a week of rumors by giving their commitments to head coach Mack Brown on Sunday before the Texas spring game.
Cole and Brown will not be joining 2011 A&M commit Brandon Alexander and 2012 commits Troy Green and Adrian Bellard in College Station and their commitments put to rest any lingering notions that Alexander's guardian, David Barham, has been working behind the scenes to turn Brenham into a bona fide Aggie pipeline.
Their commitments also help reverse the early recruiting narrative. After Texas landed only four commitments during the weekend of the first Junior Day and only two commitments on JD1 itself, the Longhorns still trail behind the torrid pace set last year in recruiting, but have recovered from the relatively slow start to land 15 commitments by the beginning of April.
Just as importantly, the hot start by the Aggies in recruiting no longer looks so threatening to the Longhorns landing most of the targeted players in state, as well as the school's overall dominance of the Texas recruiting landscape. So even though most recruits are now keeping their true feelings under the radar and declining to name favorites, the decisions by Cole and Brown serve notice once again that when Mack Brown wants a sandwich, he gets the sandwich.
And the Cole/Brown combination makes for an extremely important sandwich. Brown has been ranked as the top defensive tackle in the state for more than a year now and that isn't likely to change at any point in the recruiting process. In a deep class at linebacker, Cole is in the conversation with Rockdale's Derek David and Euless Trinity's Brian Nance as the top player in the state at that position.
Cole appeared to be the leader of the duo and his three visits to Austin in a month seemed to help put the Longhorns in serious contention for his services as he did his due diligence in recruiting. After failing to attend JD1, things looked desperate with Brown, but Cole seemed to convince him to attend JD2 and the news out of Brenham was mostly positive since that time, reaching a crescendo late last week when rumors began swirling that both of them could commit to Texas this weekend. Looks like those rumors have had some merit, no?
Besides their importance to the 2012 class and the overall recruiting narrative for the year, what did Texas land in Tim Cole and Malcom Brown?
Possessing elite quickness and first step off the ball, the 6-2, 290-pound Brown is a gap-penetrating defensive tackle who makes his living in the defensive backfield. With the motor to pursue plays not only down the line of scrimmage, but also well down the field, Brown could give his highest level of effort more consistently and needs to work some on his leverage. However, when Brown does fire off the ball low, he's too much of a load for all but the most elite high school guards to handle and he has the physical tools to be a star at Texas.
The 3-4 defense employed by Tim DeRuyter at A&M didn't do the Aggies any favors in his recruitment, as Brown's talents move well beyond playing the run-stuffing nose guard position and taking on two blockers every play. Whether Brown's uncle was the major influence in convincing his nephew of that fact probably will remain an unknown, but suffice it to say that the Aggie scheme may have gone a long way towards pushing Brown in the direction of Texas.
Malcom Brown Highlights (via 247SportsStudio)
At between 6-1 and 6-2 and around 215 pounds, Cole isn't a big-bodied linebacker like 2012 commits Steve Edmond and Kendall Thompson and is more in the mold of a player like Aaron Benson. At Texas, Cole projects as a SAM linebacker who will have some coverage responsibilities in the Manny Diaz defense, as well as blitzing at times. His sideline-to-sideline range and reputation as a heady player should help him adjust quickly to the college game.
In addition, Cole has the lateral quickness to give himself the tackling radius of a taller, longer player and shows the ability on film to sink, uncoil his hips to strike ballcarriers with some legitimate force. Faster as a junior than as a senior, Cole will need to add some strength to take on blockers at the point of attack, though he does show good overall physicality as a player and some ability to strike with his hands to win battles against opposing offensive linemen.
Tim Cole Highlights (via 247SportsStudio)
In terms of the overall impact on the recruiting class, Cole's commitment gives the Longhorns three linebackers in the 2012 class and will shut down recruiting at that position, with Manny Diaz having landed all three of his top targets in Cole, Peter Jinkens, and Alex De La Torre.
At defensive tackle, Brown joins Alex Norman and Paul Boyette in the fold. Texas may continue to recruit Javonte Magee, a guy who may end up at defensive tackle, but at the least projects as a swing man between the defensive end and defensive tackle positions.
As Texas works to wrap up remaining targets along the offensive line, at running back, and continues to evaluate defensive back prospects, the success that the commitments of Brown and Cole provide to their respective positions ensures that the Longhorns will have another top-10 recruiting class nationally, despite the 5-7 season and massive turnover on the coaching staff.
So if you see Mack eying down your sandwich, you might as well just give it to him and save him the trouble of asking for it.
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I heard that...
Estelle and Sanders were at the spring game, any news on them…
I’m sooo pumped about this class but the lack of DBs are beginning to worry me…
There is talk
that Sanders was offered as a db only, and said no.
Sanders was not offered.
Estelle was in town with both his parents and it sounds like they will sit down and talk about things before making a decision. Texas leads, but Estelle may decide to visit Auburn. If he decides not to make the trip, he probably ends up as a Longhorn sooner rather than later.
Johnathan Gray was in town and apparently sat with Brown and Cole during the first half.
Texarkana Texas OL John Michael McGee made it to town, but did not receive an offer, which is too bad for him given his talent level.
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by Wescott Eberts (GoBR) on Apr 3, 2011 7:48 PM CDT up reply actions
Malcom Brown will not play nose guard at Texas.
That’s the point.
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by Wescott Eberts (GoBR) on Apr 3, 2011 7:53 PM CDT up reply actions
See Boyette and Norman
as much more likely to play 0/1 tech at Texas than Brown, who is the quickest of the three.
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by Wescott Eberts (GoBR) on Apr 3, 2011 8:10 PM CDT up reply actions
I think the likelihood of him playing NG at A&M was fairly slim, too
Looking at who we have coming in the 2011 and ‘12 classes, it looks like we’re set at NG for the next 3-4 years.
Brown looks like he would have been a candidate for DE in our scheme.
I really think the scheme argument was a non-starter in his recruitment.
Schematic considerations
Diaz DL attack gaps, all the time. If they aren’t taking their gap they are stunting into another one. What do Aggy 3-4 DE’s and NG’s do? Read and react? If Malcolm Brown’s strongest traits are rip moves and getting into the backfield that will be highlighted far greater at Texas than in College Station.
Anyways, we got him and you didn’t so something was a selling point.
Is this a serious question?
What do Aggy 3-4 DE’s and NG’s do? Read and react?
Did you watch A&M play at all last season?
Playing a one-gap scheme and stunting is not exclusive to an even-front, which is irrelevant when you consider that Diaz’ scheme is multiple, and uses even and odd fronts.
Playing NT in a 3-4 situationally
such as in pass rushing downs would be great for Malcolm Brown. Doing it every down wouldn’t.
"I want to be remembered as the guy who gave his all whenever he was on the field."
-Walter Payton
You said on your own blog
that Malcolm Brown was the best high school lineman you had seen since Tommie Harris. Please tell me what Tommie Harris has been playing for the Bears since he came in to the league? You made the comparison. Let’s just call it like it is and have you admit that your ability to evaluate players is about the same as Charlie Sheen’s to stay sober and rational.
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Harris played over the center in college
Really hurt his draft stock didn’t it? Brown is under 6’4 and half the teams in the NFL run the 3-4. You do the math. The Bears run a 4-3 so what is your point?
You are the one talking about the NFL
and you are killing your own point. If Tommie Harris played over the center, of which I do not recall, his skill, which you likened to Malcolm Brown, was that of a penetrator and fit best in the 4-3. You have talked yourself out of your own argument.
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-Walter Payton
This statement
If Tommie Harris played over the center, of which I do not recall, his skill, which you likened to Malcolm Brown, was that of a penetrator and fit best in the 4-3.
is only accurate if you think the role of 3-4 DL is to fill gaps and not penetrate and cause disruption in the backfield. It is just as easy to argue that Malcom Brown’s skill is pentrating the line, therefore he would be best suited playing interior line in a 3-4 attacking style defense, which is what A&M runs.
As I recall, many OU fans claimed that Harris; job at OU was not to penetrate, but to tie-up blockers so the LBs coud make plays. Mike Stoops doesn’t agree with that argument, though.
Of course there are schematic
considerations. That never changed. Even with the difference between a 3-4 and 4-3 there are still different techniques that are played in those schemes. I was simply going off of miketag’s comparisons.
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mike, I know you don't understand
The 3-4 DT vs. 4-3 DT concept too well, but I’m extremely perplexed by your comment about Harris in college.
Either A) you think OU primarily played 3-4 in the early 2000s…which would be incorrect or B) you genuinely think playing “over center” (or whatever you want to call it) schematically in a 4-3 with another DT next to you to occupy interior lineman is similar to playing “over center” in the 3-4 and not having another DT next to you.
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I think playing over center in an odd front5-2
Is similar to playing NG in a 3-4. Bottom line is, I think Brown would be a hell of a NG.
by miketag on Apr 4, 2011 2:03 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
During Harris' time at OU
they primarily played a 50-odd front eagle package on running downs, shading their one-tech (Harris) to the TE side, with the strong tackle in a 5 tech, and the strong end in a 9 tech. On the weakside, the weak tackle is a 3 tech, and the weak end is a 5 tech.
In a 3-4, the NG is in either a 0-tech, or shaded strong or weak, depending on the down and defensive call. Your DEs are going to be aligned anywhere from a 3 to 4 to 5 tech, depending on down and defensive call.
To try to say that playing the interior line in the 4-3 is easier than playing in a 3-4 is ignoring math, especially against the zone blocking schemes used today. It is much more difficult for the offensive line to block 3 interior linemen, especially in a zone scheme, than it is for them to block two interior linemen.
If we are talking about scheme, arguing that playing interior line in an even front would somehow cause less wear and tear and be more attractive than playing interior line in an odd-front is inaccurate. 5 OL blocking 5 defenders is a lot tougher than 5 OL blocking 4 defenders.
You are operating under the assumption
that the 3-4 and the Double Eagle are one in the same. Some blocking schemes treat OLB’s in the 3-4 like true LB and others treat them like DL. Point being, not that you are wrong, but that based off scheme and technique this is kind of a moot argument. Is blocking 3DL compared to 2 harder? Absolutely. Especially considering most teams use some variation of zone blocking. However, it’s very easy to treat a walk down OLB in the 4-3 in the same manner as in the 3-4 and account for the strong side DE as that third DL. You make good points, its just that the 3-4 and the 4-3 can quickly become two sides of the same coin based on the fronts and variations.
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We're arguing against what mike is saying
Your points, Beergut, while valid (if not exceptional), aren’t really the points of our dissent.
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Your comments smell bitter. nt
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Lots of missing sandwiches...
think I just lost my Schlotzky’s. This is getting ridiculous.
We have a 12th man and he's Bryan Harsin
by SpiritOfTheFedora on Apr 5, 2011 2:54 PM CDT up reply actions
It is very easy for a true dominant 3-4 NT to get noticed, even playing in a 4-3
It is not the case of how a 4-3 DT would get noticed playing as a 3-4 NT. If Brown does not blossom into a true 3-4 NT then what?
Playing in a full time 3-4 really provides little in upping a value of a DT in college. All it does is adds wear and tear and experience. How much is the experience gained as a full time 3-4 NT worth when compared to the value of less wear and tear and still some 3-4 NT is a situational packages.
JD’s like, "you want some f*ing pitching? Here’s all the pitching you can stand. Now choke on it, b*#&hes!"- RCCook
LSB: "Oh s#*t, JD. You crazy!"
go ask Marcell Dareus
the only logical argument that can be made about the advantages of an interior lineman in the 4-3 compared to the 3-4 are that in the 4-3 you have a better chance of getting more stats. The wear and tear argument is laughable considering Pat Williams played 14 years in the league after playing NG at A&M. Ron Edwards is going on his 11th year in the league.
Dareus has a gigantic frame
That Brown does not possess and athleticism that Brown would not have if he were that size. You can’t just ALWAYS throw out exceptional talents and athletes that are top 5 players in the draft to make your point. Yes, there are players that are so good they can succeed in any situation. But if you genuinely think Brown is as suited for the 3-4 as he is for the 4-3, you are just completely lost in your understanding of the concepts of 3-4/4-3 DT play.
It’s like you refuse to accept the factual positional advantages between the two systems. 4-3 lineman are going to be busting gaps, for the most part, and have a chance to make plays in the backfield. 3-4 OLB is great for athletic freaks who can rush the passer consistently but maybe aren’t the most refined coverage guys. 3-4 ILB is good for bigger or stockier MLB’s who like the chance to fill gaps in the run without having to take on linemen every play. These are simple explanations for more complicated concepts, of course, but I think it’s a pretty good few examples.
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You are over generalizing based on common misperceptions
by miketag on Apr 4, 2011 2:33 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Care to elaborate?
I would like to hear what you would categorize as “common misperceptions”.
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-Walter Payton
That might be the most
Vague and vapid statement I’ve ever seen. I’m no X’s and O’s guru like Coach E, but I think what I enumerated above are generally accepted basic schematic conceptions. Please correct me if I’m wrong, Coach.
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Not wrong at all
I was alluding to the same thing you were.
Vague and vapid statement I’ve ever seen.
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you are under generalizing based Marcell Dareus and two other players
Greg Davis haikus; a lot like his offenses; always go sideways.
by pleaseplaykindle on Apr 5, 2011 11:16 AM CDT up reply actions
darius played outside as well which shows how he is an exception
he has the athleticism and strength to play 3-4 NT, DE or 4-3 DT
Unreal
Great news welcome to the 40 Cole and brown.
Hook’Em
by HornsUpInLA on Apr 3, 2011 7:40 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
a long time away
Texas needs to stay on the Brenham kids because signing day is a long way away.
Outstanding news, the Brenham Pipeline remains strong
Thanks for the write up GOBR.
Welcome to the 40 Acres Tim and Malcom.
GOBR any news on Javonte Magee? If Texas continues to recruit Magee I think they consider him a swing guy or he possibly stays at DE.
by billfromlaketravis on Apr 3, 2011 8:05 PM CDT reply actions
Baylor seems to lead for Magee.
There’s some noise right now that if either Ralphael Green or Leo Thomas commit to Baylor, then Magee will end up there as well. Texas definitely seems to have some ground to make up and the question is whether the coaching staff wants to put on the full-court press with likely only one DL spot left in the class and a need for an edge rusher that looks like it isn’t being addressed right now.
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by Wescott Eberts (GoBR) on Apr 3, 2011 8:09 PM CDT up reply actions
A good lesson for the Ags is to never trust a recruit's Facebook interests. HAHA!
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Another lesson for the Ags
The mods on your boards are almost always wrong about recruits when in a head-to-head battle with Texas. It’s like Charlie Brown kicking at the ball with Lucy holding. I hear Jesus Shuttlesworth is starting a new premium board if you guys can pony up the $500 per month.
If we land
Estelle and Gray, then we basically spend the year looking for a lateblooming DB and perhaps chasing an oos OT? And that would be a top 10 class at 17 committs. Wow.
Love Brown’s film, and add him in with Norman, who I think is underrated and Boyette, who others think more highly of than I do, and that is a great haul for the middle of the DL. End is struggling this year, but we knew that would be the case if we couldn’t get Edwards.
Add Cole, who I love, with Jinkens, who I like, and DeLaTorre, who Diaz likes and we are done at LB.
So GoBR(or others) who is the next commit? And when?
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Gray. April 22nd (his birthday)! Bank on it.
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-- Major Applewhite
Probably Estelle
Could go down this week if he decides not to visit Auburn.
If not Estelle, then probably Gray, who will announce on April 22nd, as noted above.
Other than that, Texas is waiting on a visit from an OOS tackle, with Andrus Peat being the most likely to make it into town, and trying to get Michael Starts back on campus, but there isn’t too much going on.
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by Wescott Eberts (GoBR) on Apr 3, 2011 9:51 PM CDT up reply actions
Starts is a weird case
Just haven’t heard much about him lately.
I’m in love with Peat like I am Dorial Green-Beckham. Top two players in the the country that I’ve seen so far.
Estelle in the next couple weeks with Gray, obviously, going down on his birthday.
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Love Brown’s film, and add him in with Norman, who I think is underrated and Boyette, who others think more highly of than I do, and that is a great haul for the middle of the DL. End is struggling this year, but we knew that would be the case if we couldn’t get Edwards.
This is extremely odd in how similar it is to my constant thinking about our DL.
The comment about DLT is funny and so true.
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Needless to say...
this is solid news regarding the current coaching staff and their inroads to the local talent. I would still like Texas to continue to the OOS recruiting efforts. I wonder if Westerman is ready to play for a non eligible program. It’s coming.
2010/11 Final BCS* Standings
1. Auburn 14-0
2. TCU 13-0
*Wasn't this system designed to prevent this from happening?
Jesus Shuttlesworth likes our chances with Kendall Sanders
Check out the ’Cosm for the article. Linkie : http://recruitocosm.fantake.com/2011/04/03/kendall-sanders-update/comment-page-1/#comment-76118
by billfromlaketravis on Apr 3, 2011 10:20 PM CDT reply actions
GoBR, assuming we land both Gray and Estelle, by my count...
we still need another OT and DB (possibly Sanders), plus I assume we’ll leave room for DGB (even though it looks like he’s heading to the SEC). Are their any other players we should keep an eye on or positions of need that need to filled?
That's about it.
I suppose a TE could emerge and my belief is that another edge rusher is needed, but there’s no one truly on the radar right now as the staff continues to ignore Devonte Fields.
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by Wescott Eberts (GoBR) on Apr 4, 2011 9:04 AM CDT up reply actions
To my chagrin
Fields is by far the second best DE in the state. Don’t. Get. It.
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Foreshadowing????
Here’s the picture I was referencing yesterday. Big thanks to 247 poster BrenhamHorn for resending this to me: http://media.247sports.com/Uploads/Boards/71/15071/94778.jpg
Shows a group of Brenham FB Players in a room. Look at Malcom Brown in the middle of all of them, as some say, throwing up both the Hook ‘em & Gig ‘em signs.
Since it turns out he’s headed to the 40, I will remix it to read…I’m UT bound b*tches!
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No Idea
I’ve got a request out to get the name run-down of the entire photo…Stand-by
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Re the Brown discussion
He did say today that the Texas 4-3 defense helped him decide in favor of the Longhorns.
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by Wescott Eberts (GoBR) on Apr 4, 2011 5:22 PM CDT reply actions
But, but, but
miketag says it wasn’t!
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-Walter Payton
And beergut said it was a non-starter!
And those guys are never wrong!
ONE MORE TIME
by Thomas Bangalter on Apr 4, 2011 7:09 PM CDT up reply actions
was this part of an interview or just a general statement?
link?
From looking at the highlight video you posted, and looking at what we have now at NG and coming in at NG, it doesn’t look like he was going to play NG for us, which is why I think the “he didn’t want to be a 3-4 NG” argument is a non-starter.
Fair enough
I think most of the BON faithful were just going off what your buddy miketag said, considering he thought that Malcolm Brown was the second coming at NG.
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BG
You think he is fast/agile enough to play 3-4 DE in college? He has the size to play 3-4 DE in the NFL, which generally correlates to DT in college. I think he fully expected to play NG at A&M and that was one of the reasons he chose not to go there (among others).
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