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11 for '11: The Longhorn Network

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As we near the start of fall camp, this series explores 11 topics and themes related to the 2011 Texas Longhorns football season. Previously in the series:

* The Intoxicating Potential of Manny Diaz
* Assessing The Texas Offensive Line

Last summer we learned that the University of Texas was ready to launch a cable channel dedicated exclusively to all things Longhorn, and by January it reached a 20-year, $300 million deal with ESPN to help develop, launch, and operate the Longhorn Network.  Last week the parties announced some of the on-air talent who will anchor programming on the Longhorn Network, the debut of which will occur at 6 p.m. CT on August 26th, with a live broadcast from the South Mall of the UT-Austin campus.

Although the Longhorn Network is essentially the Big Ten Network reduced to one team (as opposed to an alliance of teams), there exists widespread confusion amongst fans -- both in Austin and elsewhere -- about what the Longhorn Network is, the purpose it serves, and the structure of the deal between Texas and ESPN.  Football being the primary driver of the university's decision to pursue the network, this seems an appropriate time to review those issues and clear up a number of misconceptions about its structure, purpose, and relationship with the "worldwide leader."

The Longhorn Network: Understanding Its Purpose

The first place to start is with UT's interest in launching this network. Probably the best way to think about it is as: (1) an extension of TexasSports.com (and especially, MackBrown-TexasFootball.com), and (2) a replication (at a narrower, more focused scale) of the Big Ten Network. 

As relates to the former, Texas is aiming to expand their multimedia footprint with the Longhorn Network, extending the same kind of industry-leading info-tainment as is typical of the coverage of UT athletics on the university's web properties.  The goal is to provide their enormous consumer base more information about and access to the product with which they are obsessed.  In other words, the Longhorn Network exists to provide fixes for the thousands upon thousands of burnt orange junkies like you and me. 

Star-divide

It's as simple as that, and really, the rest is just logistics.  It might be easier for fans -- Longhorns and otherwise -- to fully grasp that by thinking about it in light of the Big Ten Network.  Ultimately, Texas is simply replicating the Big Ten Network's relatively uncontroversial model.  Although there is an obvious difference in scope of the coverage -- eleven teams instead of one -- critics who seize upon that distinction fail to grasp the fundamental character of the Big Ten Network, mistakenly concluding that because the Big Ten Network provides coverage of all the conference participants that it is a neutral, quasi-outside media entity.  Although it may be neutral as between the Big Ten programs themselves, it is a product of those very programs, existing solely at their behest and to serve the interests of their constituents. 

The same is true of the Longhorn Network.  It is a network created by the University of Texas, for Texas Longhorns fans, and will be no less focused on highlighting Longhorns athletics as the Big Ten Network is the athletics of Big Ten conference members.  Just as it would be antithetical to the very purpose of the Big Ten Network to focus on the interest of, say, SEC fans -- or, really, the fans of anyone other than Big Ten universities -- the Longhorn Network necessarily will serve the interests of UT fans.  The Longhorn Network and Big Ten Network exist for exactly the same reasons and to serve the exact same purposes.

Behind many of the anxious criticisms of the Longhorn Network is a misunderstanding of that basic purpose.  To start with, fans in Austin and abroad need to disavow any apprehensions related to the ability of the Longhorn Network to meet high journalistic standards.  The Longhorn Network has no such obligation, precisely because it is not an independent media entity.  ESPN is a contractor of the University of Texas, bound to perform specific tasks -- no more, no less.  This is precisely the same at the Big Ten Network, which similarly exists as a contractor for the founding parties.  The Big Ten Network is not an independent media organization tasked with providing objective reporting in accordance with its own journalistic mission.  It is a contractor of the schools of the Big Ten, created and then hired by the Big Ten conference members to perform tasks beneficial to the Big Ten conference members.  The same is true with the Longhorn Network, the only difference being that we contracted the work to ESPN, rather than our own television production company.

If it is rigorous journalism you want, look to those whose mission is to provide it.  To criticize the Longhorn Network for not providing it is as misplaced as would be criticizing CBS Sports for not asking Texas what it would like to have reported (and not reported).  Texas hired ESPN to carry the university's programming, not to be an independent media entity with a burnt orange logo.

(Parenthetically, even if it were the case that ESPN had some independent journalistic obligation in this arrangement -- which it absolutely does not -- it is rather humorous to criticize the Longhorn Network as receiving unfair immunity, as though ESPN is out there providing hard-hitting stories and serious investigative journalism.)

The Content That Matters

In light of the Longhorn Network's purpose, we can now properly evaluate its content.  As explained above, anyone expecting "independent" coverage of Texas misunderstands the Longhorn Network and its purpose.  Instead, it is perfectly appropriate to expect coverage that, well, highlights the University of Texas and its athletics programs. If they do a good job, they'll offer useful critiques of the coaches/players/teams/games, but even if they disappoint their constituent audience (UT fans) in that regard, there is no doubt that they will provide an abundance of previews, recaps, highlights, and the like.  Instead of going to MB-TF.com for video breaking down this week's opponent, UT fans will watch a 30-minute program on the LHN.  It may or may not be well done, but it will be exclusively focused on and geared towards the interests of UT fans.

Beyond informational entertainment related to Texas games/teams/seasons, the Longhorn Network will offer live broadcast content.  In conjunction with current television contracts to which UT is a party, fans can expect the Longhorn Network to be the carrier for 1-3 football games per season, starting with this year's season opener versus Rice. For the foreseeable future, every major Texas football game will be carried on channels with broader reach (such as ABC or ESPN), and the more important impact of live broadcasts will be felt by other sports.  Although most major hoops games will still be broadcast by broader-reaching networks, fans can look forward to seeing at least a half dozen basketball games on LHN, and never have to worry about a non-televised UT basketball game again.  Most dramatic will be the impact on UT sports that are only occasionally -- or never -- on television.  The Longhorn Network is a huge boon to Texas baseball fans, and a wonderful benefit for Texas student athletes playing volleyball, softball, and the like, who will now have many -- and perhaps all -- of their games available for television viewing, if not live, at least on delayed broadcast.

Much to the chagrin of a number of Aggies, the Longhorn Network will also carry the occasional high school football game.  To be sure, such broadcasts will serve the interests of both the property holder (UT) and the consumers (UT fans), the exposure serving as beneficial to the football program, and the opportunity to evaluate prospects engaging to interested fans.  However, such broadcasts also serve relevant business purposes, by improving the prospects for a broader subscriber base with content enticing to otherwise disinterested consumers. 

Are such broadcasts beneficial to Texas and its recruiting efforts? Of course, as is the Longhorn Network, generally. Is it underhanded or unfair? Not at all, unless one is willing to embrace a standard of egalitarianism radically different from what exists in modern college athletics.  An Aggie who wants to rage about the inequity of the Longhorn Network should be prepared to give up Texas A&M's advantages over the University of Houston -- and, for that matter, to cry foul at the Big Ten for starting its own network, to its advantage over everyone else.

I'm not insensitive to complaints that the Longhorn Network represents a particularly poignant example of the current state of big money and corporatism in college athletics, but willing participants in the game don't have much room to complain. Such critics need to be honest and not attempt to characterize a structural problem as a singularly Texas problem.

Understanding Upside

In sum, the Longhorn Network is a creation of the University of Texas, owned by the University of Texas, launched to serve the interests of the University of Texas.  Its relationship with ESPN necessarily must be evaluated in that light, and many of the criticisms of the Longhorn Network simply make no sense in light of that purpose, the role ESPN is playing in the endeavor, and the contract between the two parties.

Typical of these specious arguments and the fundamental misunderstandings on which they are based is the one offered here and here by Aggie fan miketag:

As for the LHN, I still do not think it will be a success. I do not think there will be enough content to produce a viable product. The Big 10 Network struggles to fill their programming and they have 10 different schools worth of content. Even for the most die hard fan, I doubt watching the 2010 season on repeat for the 3rd time appeals to anyone. As I have said before, how many people are going to tune in to watch your crew team?

There are numerous problems here, but as a starting point let's note that the deal is already done -- the $300 million payment to Texas sealed by contract. Even if, as miketag contends, there is a struggle to create programming and the product isn't successful with fans, Texas's offering has already been purchased by ESPN, who carries the monetary risk of failure.  Texas gets paid either way, and the most you can argue is that it will flop and Texas will not be able to continue it after 2031.  Of course, twenty years ago we didn't even have the internet, so it's awfully hard to view the possibility that Texas won't be able to reach the same deal again in 20 years as a point of weakness of the deal it reached for itself right now.

Beyond that glaring misjudgment, there is miketag's confusion about the importance of riveting 24/7/365 programming to make the channel successful.  It's as though he imagines that 95% of the Big Ten Network's subscribers pony up for some reason other than to have access to a handful of important events they care about and can only access if they subscribe.  Hell, the Longhorn Network could limit itself to 4 hours a day of programming, and if it still provided the only way to watch a number of live Texas games each year, we'd still all sign up.  I can tell you that I'll be ordering the Longhorn Network and that I'll probably watch the live events and maybe -- maybe -- an hour or two a week of other crap.  And I suspect that's true of the vast majority of subscribers.  Whether people subscribe will have nothing to do with whether they succeed in filling all 24 hours a day with riveting content and everything to do with whether being a subscriber is essential to watching a handful of things we care deeply about.  The 3 a.m. replay of the crew team's meet will be watched by almost no one, and will have absolutely zero impact on whether the Longhorn Network is a viable endeavor.

At the end of the day, Texas got paid $300 million dollars over 20 years to let ESPN carry the risk that no one will subscribe.  Never mind that we will because the parties will work to ensure that there are live events that make subscription essential to Texas sports fans, the risk of a flop is entirely with ESPN.  All the upside is pure gravy for Texas -- from the benefits of more deeply engaging their huge and rabid fan base, to the potential for greater exposure to assist the university in growing that fan base and recruiting top athletes to its programs. 

It's a giant infomercial for the University of Texas and Longhorns athletics, and we're being paid for the privilege. If that's all it is and 20 years from now the network disappears, it will still have been the best $300 million we were paid to spend.

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The "journalism" aspect is a point that I think is hard to grasp for many.

This is a public relations channel, not an independent news entity. The broadcasters and hosts will look like journalists, sound like journalists, and have many of the same tools/skills of journalists, but if a Texas player or coach is in legal trouble or the school commits a huge NCAA violation, don’t be surprised if you still read about it in the Statesman or see it on the local or national news first. And it would not be a matter of LHN being “scooped” by these other media. Chances are LHN will have knowledge (via the athletics department) of most negative story lines before any other media member, but it is not LHN’s purpose to break negative news. With that said, if it is an unavoidable storyline, you’ll hear the hosts address the topic in a delicate manner, similar to a PR representative, trying to paint the most positive picture as possible, without completely insulting the intelligence of the viewer. The university will always utilize the network to get the university’s version of the story out to the public. In this one sense, the LHN’s purpose isn’t to serve in the fans’ interest, but rather what the athletics department perceives to be in its best interest.

Ideally, there will be few times where a school representative’s poor judgment will force the LHN to act in such a manner. Most content, live and pre-produced, will aim to be 100% positive and center around promoting student athletes and coaches (and the student body itself via the academia submissions). Among the programming will be live games, which again brings up the point that Peter addressed regarding neutrality. Unless you are a network broadcast team (play-by-play/color/sideline) calling a game for a network which covers different teams each week, you are not a neutral broadcaster. The voices you hear all season calling your favorite team’s MLB or NBA games on TV or radio are paid either directly by the franchises or are chosen by the franchise and paid via an agreement with the network. Their job is to provide a 3-hour (positive) advertisement for the franchise. The same is the case for NFL on radio and NCAA teams on radio. Craig Way won’t hide the fact that Texas may have just lost, but in the postgame interview with coaches and players, he will carefully choose his questions and comments to paint as positive picture as possible. It is not his job to ask hard hitting questions.

ESPN is likely going to use a variety of broadcasters on LHN telecasts. I don’t anticipate there being a TV version of Craig Way who would serve as the exclusive TV play-by-play voice of any UT team. We’ll likely see broadcasters flown in and out of Austin, just as ESPN handles its other networks. ESPN’s top voices will remain on ABC and ESPN/ESPN2, but chances are you’ll see a few familiar faces that you also see/hear calling games on ESPNU and ESPN3. These broadcasters will deliver a professional broadcast that is intended to appear no different than any other ESPN production, but again they will understand the subtle nuance of needing to appease the athletics department on LHN broadcasts. This is one of those instances where UT retained the right to dictate whether or not ESPN continued using certain talent on LHN. Most network broadcasters also have (or have had) a side job serving as the exclusive voice for a school or franchise and regularly make the subtle adjustment from team spokesman to “neutral” broadcaster, so this is nothing new, but so many viewers and listeners just assume that anyone in a suit with a microphone is a journalist with the obligation to the audience to present a neutral report/broadcast.

Great job by Peter, who has a good grasp on the actual purpose and nature of the new network.

by Lincoln on Jul 17, 2011 10:33 AM CDT reply actions  

good points

It is like Mike Hall said of the BTN when he was on the Solid Verbal. They will report the news like tOSU stuff but they will not go out and do an investigative piece like Yahoo did.

by Jeremy Mauss on Jul 17, 2011 4:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

Outstanding Peter, just outstanding

ESPN is taking the financial risk here, not Texas. If 6 people order the Longhorn Network, Texas still gets paid. ESPN is accustomed to taking these risks. ESPN doesn’t sweat $300 million. People are quick to forget that ESPN is worth more than the NFL, NBA, MLB and NHL COMBINED. They print money in Bristol.

Hell ESPN was a HUGE risk when it was created in 1979. There are parallels between the creation of ESPN , the creation of the Big Ten Network and the creation of the Longhorn Network. All were risky endeavors with the same criticism, who wants to watch sports 24/7, 365? Between subscriptions, and the advertising dollars during the major sporting events (football and men’s basketball) I believe the Network will turn a profit. ESPN doesn’t make it’s ad money on the 3 am Sportscenter, it makes it’s money on Monday Night Football. Advertisers that want to be on Monday Night Football, have to buy ad space for the 3 am Sportscenter to get access to prime time programming. It’s how the business works. Advertisers will pay top dollar for access to Texas’ prime time football and basketball games.

It might take 5 years, it might take 10, but The Network will be profitable eventually. Texas has the best possible media partner in ESPN. I’ll remind every one that the Big Ten Network struggled initially and is now a huge success.

The University of Florida has it’s own network, and it has every quietly turned a modest profit. A one time sports network has already been successful. Texas based the Longhorn Network model on Florida’s and the Big Ten’s. It’s been done before it will be done again. BYU is working on it’s own network. Google and Apple are working with the Pac 12 on their own network.

This is the best time imaginable to be a sports fan. Do y’all realize that Dave Campbell’s Texas Football and Fox Sports are partnered on a 5 HOUR high school football highlight show coming every Friday this fall?

Imagine watching a Brenham or Skyline game on the LHN on a Friday night. Flipping over to the Dave Campbell’s Texas Football highlight for 5 hours of highlights. Then waking up the next morning to 2 hours of Texas Gameday on the LHN, followed by a Texas game and then a 2 hour post game show on the LHN. There’s going to be a lot of pissed off wives and girlfriends and a lot of happy football addicts.

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by billfromlaketravis on Jul 17, 2011 12:01 PM CDT reply actions  

Friday night

The UIL has a rule that highschool games can’t be televised on Fridays. The games will probably be on Thursdays.

by Texas Wahoo on Jul 17, 2011 2:19 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Good catch, I forgot about that

billfromlaketravis (Austin Pace)

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by billfromlaketravis on Jul 17, 2011 2:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

It helps protect

game attendance.

"I want to be remembered as the guy who gave his all whenever he was on the field."
-Walter Payton

by CoachEtch on Jul 18, 2011 10:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

'Cast anyway...

“It helps protect game attendance.”

Is it the attendance or ticket sales? Wanna TV it? Fine, buy all unsold tickets, broadcast at will. Better, send Bubba to stand at gate with horny hat and give away purchased tix – or sell for $1 or whatever. Win-win?

by longtex on Jul 19, 2011 7:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

Both
Is it the attendance or ticket sales?

It is bad TV to show a game where there are open seats. On top of that, a school will pull in much more from gate receipts than it will from broadcast rights. In fact, usually the promotion company or whoever is broadcasting the game takes a cut of the gate receipts to help protect their bottom line.

I’m all for broadcasting high school games. Honestly, though, it does not have a large financial incentive for coaches/AD’s. Ask most coaches and they will tell you that the attention the program draws from being on television is worth more than the broadcast rights. That being said, if you have played high school football in Texas you know how special Friday nights are. I think their is something to protecting the integrity of that and keeping butts in seats as opposed to the average fan sitting at home and watching the game rather than being at the game.

"I want to be remembered as the guy who gave his all whenever he was on the field."
-Walter Payton

by CoachEtch on Jul 19, 2011 8:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

a school will pull in much more from gate receipts than it will from broadcast rights.

And from the concession stands, I imagine.

Also, is it possible that putting a marquee game on Friday night would hurt the attendance of other games around the state?

by BrooklynHorn on Jul 20, 2011 2:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

Concessions

are usually sponsored by another sport. For instance, in my school district, the band has all rights to running concessions and therefore pockets all money. Other places concessions are just ran by the athletic department and it will go into a general fund but you are correct, that is another place they would lose money.

Also, is it possible that putting a marquee game on Friday night would hurt the attendance of other games around the state?

There is two ways to look at it. At a football game you will always have players parents and high school students. Those are the givens. The problem is, and its hard to call it a problem from a societal perspective outside of my football tinted glasses is that there are now so many different options for entertainment on a Friday night that it is now harder to draw in the casual fan or community member. I mean, think about it. There are malls, movie theaters, bowling alleys, multitudes of restaraunts etc etc (I live and coach in the metroplex so I speak from that perspective). I think one area where head coaches could do a better job is really conencting with the community and getting those casual fans not only interested but devoted to the football program. Is that fun as a coach? No. Is it neccessary in selling your program and getting the community excited? Absolutely. Now, schools like Southlake, or Odessa Permian will never have trouble doing that. But when you have new schools sprouting up all the time all over the place in towns that already have high schools it is imperative you start building that support early.

With all that being said, and I know I went off course a bit, I don’t think a marquee game would kill attendance statewide as much as it would locally. It could, if it is a really big game, and I think the UIL would just rather not run into that problem at all, even if it potentially isn’t one.

"I want to be remembered as the guy who gave his all whenever he was on the field."
-Walter Payton

by CoachEtch on Jul 20, 2011 6:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

Frankly, I'm not so sure that HS football is not more entertaining anyway!

I watched Pearland play Trinity last year and it was one helluva game. I was told this game had a huge following on TV and, unoffically 70,000 in the stands

I, for one, am excited with the prospect of seeing top high school football – bring it on, LHN!

"you can't be a great defense in a casual manner!" Manny Diaz

by Snide Aside on Jul 20, 2011 8:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ahem,,

Some of the happy football addicts fall into the wives/girlfriends category! Thank goodness I won’t have a pissed off boyfriend.

There is not a situation or individual that cannot be improved by the addition of chocolate.

by OnMySignal on Jul 17, 2011 3:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

Very true.

billfromlaketravis (Austin Pace)

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by billfromlaketravis on Jul 17, 2011 3:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

BYU already has a network. In fact it’s probably on your Cable or Sat provider right now. Such a success you don’t even know about it…or care

Which is what I think the Longhorn Network will be. A huge hit for Longhorn fans…another shopping channel to skip over for those that aren’t.

But that’s not the measure of success or value to ESPN, as I point out below. UT couldn’t care less as the money is mostly guaranteed.

by Redhawk on Jul 19, 2011 3:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

BYU's network does not show many sports.

I got it in Houston on Dish Network and it seemed to show academic lectures and church programing mostly.

by Texas Wahoo on Jul 19, 2011 4:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

that will change some

as part of BYU’s issue with the MWC was their conference deal wouldn’t allow for the schools to even show reruns. BYU’s reaction was…why the hell can’t we put on a rerun/delay of a basketball game, that was never even broadcast by the MTN?

So expect more when BYU finally leaves the MWC….but I don’t think it will ever be a sports first type channel

by Redhawk on Jul 19, 2011 6:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

The block quote from Miketag...

tells me all I need to know about the cerebral perspective of many misinformed Aggies (notice the capitalization). “The network will be a failure” is a common theme. None of them realize that there are no contingencies for the LHN.

I am quite thankful that at DKR, I do not have to listen to chants of "Big 12" echoing throughout.

by Mulliganville on Jul 17, 2011 12:03 PM CDT reply actions  

Great stuff...

Earlier this week, I asked HopkinsHorn if he wanted to combine on a post over this exact topic. I’m glad we werent able to pull it off (he’s moving and I’m getting married next weekend), since this did such a great job framing the majority of the issues.

In my opinion, the elephant in the room is still the carriage agreements, especially if there is a hard-line drawn over the LHN wanting footprint money from Oklahoma and Louisiana. Getting footprint money from three states is clearly trying to model the success of the Big Ten Network—footprints equals guaranteed dollars—but I think it’s a huge stretch to make that argument in Oklahoma and Louisiana. At least, with the Big Ten Network, all of the states with footprint status had schools that were in the conference. Obviously, some deals are going to be worked out by August 26th, but I’ll be very interested to see how the OOS footprint issue gets resolved.

by txtwstr7 on Jul 17, 2011 2:31 PM CDT reply actions  

cant wait

this network will be awesome for ut baseball

by texasfighthkm on Jul 17, 2011 5:22 PM CDT reply actions  

Who is confused about why it exists?

Who has said they expect the programming to be objective? I have not seen anyone complain that they think the LHN will not be objective. We know this is one big infomercial for y’all. The only time people have mentioned objectivity is when talking about ESPN coverage on the main channels. How willing will ESPN be to report on a violation of NCAA rules involving Tx or calling out Mack Brown for a poor coaching move when they are financially motivated to see Tx succeed?

How many living alumni does Tx have? 300,000? How many do think are going to actually subscribe to the channel? Even if everyone of them watched the channel the ratings would still be poor.

No one has argued that this was a poor deal for Tx. I think it was a great deal. I applaud your athletic director for getting more money for for the network than I think anyone thought possible. That does not mean that it will be a success. It is a financial success for the school. I do not think it will be a success for ESPN. I think they will eventually pull it off the air. Without viewers you will not be able to sell commercials, and with no commercial revenue the network will be a financial flop for ESPN.

by miketag on Jul 17, 2011 8:02 PM CDT reply actions  

I don't pretend to understand the economics of cable TV

but I have to thing that ESPN has a pretty good idea of how to figure out the value of one of these deals. I assume that they are pretty comfortable that they will be able to generate the necessary cash flow for operating this thing. Calculating revenue from subscriptions should be straightforward. And they should have a good handle on what sort of ad revenue and ratings they can pull in. It would seem that the ratings will be pretty similar to what regional sports networks might get when they are not showing the games.

It seems like coming up with a fair value for this sort of deal shouldn’t be too hard. I just don’t know enough about the business to do it.

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by Reggieball on Jul 17, 2011 8:44 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Evolving

Don’t get too caught up on the Longhorn Sports 24/7 aspect. Friday Night Lights reruns are set to be aired on it as well as educational/lecture type programming. I’m sure the Network will evolve as ESPN wants to maximize viewership, and thus have content that appears to those in this region (re: high school football). It will evolve before it ever gets pulled.

by UTeze on Jul 17, 2011 11:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

Other Content

From what I gathered it will be the inverse of BYU network. Instead of mostly other stuff and some sports it will be mainly sports with some other programs like history programs on Texas history or other stuff like that.

by Silentjay on Jul 18, 2011 12:33 AM CDT up reply actions  

Bollocks!

The issue here isn’t that the LHN isn’t a great deal for Texas. The issue is that it stinks for everyone else. It makes it impossible for anyone else (save maybe Oklahoma) to compete with Texas financially and for recruits. And yes, ESPN bias is a factor. Not only are they the #1 sports entity in the world themselves, but they heavily influence everybody else. ESPN plays a huge role in who wins major awards, who plays for the national title … Auburn was kept out of the 2004 national title picture thanks largely to ESPN, and yes (as Tommy Tuberville pointed out) the fact that Oklahoma and USC had their primary contracts with ESPN/ABC where Auburn had its with CBS did play a huge role. And ESPN played a huge role in Oklahoma being favored over Texas in 2008. But your TV network with them is going to make sure that it never happens again, right?

For the other schools, Texas having a huge, permanent advantage stinks. If you are Kansas State, Iowa State, Oklahoma State or Baylor, it isn’t so bad because it’s either the Big 12 or the Mountain West. (Maybe.) But if you can get a better deal, then why not? Maybe A&M can’t join the SEC, but if the Big East can take one Texas school (TCU) why not add another with a much bigger fanbase? The Big East is looking to add schools for scheduling purposes anyway, and ultimately the football schools are looking to split off from the basketball-only schools, so give the BE a choice between A&M and Villanova (whom the BE is trying to cajole into moving up from FCS level, and they aren’t even that good an FCS team!) which do you suppose they take?

Winning the Big East (and having TCU and A&M would guarantee retention of their BCS bid) now and then is a lot better than being stuck at no better than #3 to Texas and Oklahoma. As to whether the Texas legislature will actually allow A&M to leave … don’t be so sure. The coming arrangement only benefits the Longhorns. As it hurts A&M, Texas Tech and Baylor, it doesn’t benefit the state of Texas. This is not akin to saying “We are benefiting Texas athletics by saving the Big 12.” The Big 12 would remain, which means that Texas Tech and Baylor are safe. Instead, allowing A&M to split to join a conference that they can actually win would have a greater benefit to the state of Texas. Replace A&M with Houston and the benefit to Texas is greater still: 6 schools playing major college football, far more than anyone else (California, Florida and North Carolina ??? have 4), and major college athletics in Texas not having all their eggs in one basket (better to be like Florida and have your interests split among the ACC, SEC and Big East it isn’t inconceivable to have a Florida school win each of the 3 leagues).

If I were an Aggie administrator or booster, I would have the SEC on one line and the Big East on another as we speak.

by Lurking on Jul 17, 2011 11:35 PM CDT reply actions  

Oklahoma and USC had their primary contracts with ESPN/ABC where Auburn had its with CBS did play a huge role

Without bothering too look it up, I’m going to go out on a limb here and guess that Auburn appeared on ESPN in 2004 a hell of a lot more than USC and OU combined.

by Hopkins Horn on Jul 17, 2011 11:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

A&M is not going to go to the Big East

and Houston is not going to join the Big 12

by miketag on Jul 18, 2011 12:39 AM CDT up reply actions  

Sorry

Aggies are going to the Great West Conference.

by Silentjay on Jul 18, 2011 12:44 AM CDT up reply actions  

I just wish all Big 12 schools would create their own networks.

If we’re going to commit to this model, then let’s go all the way. Creating networks should be easy and subscribing to them should be easy, too. They shouldn’t need to be immensely profitable, just stable. There’s no good reason why schools should have to partner with big networks to create their own channel. They should be able to create their own partner company like the Big Ten apparently did. The circulation of the channel don’t have to all be that big. I can see a Baylor network, for example, just being available in Waco and surrounding areas. I’m also a big supporter of people being able to choose exactly what channels they want and paying for them only; nothing more. Why do I need OWN? Am I ever going to watch it? No. But I still have to pay for it for some reason. If I could pick my own channels, I would subscribe to all the Big 12 team networks and also the Pac 12 Network and the Big Ten Network. The way cable packages are structured is really hampering the media environment and college football. I think what it is is the big networks forming a cabal to keep smaller ones from entering the marketplace. Why not allow for demand-based channel packages?

"Hey, don't y'all think that's beautiful right there? That crystal is SO beautiful. And it's coming home to Texas." - Vince Young

by LookinForIt on Jul 18, 2011 4:56 AM CDT via mobile reply actions  

i could see

all the other big 12 memebers beside us and ou form one network. then aggie might get jealous thou

by texasfighthkm on Jul 18, 2011 11:23 AM CDT up reply actions  

The Big 10 Network

didn’t “create their own partner company”. They partnered with FoxSports, who owns about half of the Big 10 Network.

by sessamoid on Jul 18, 2011 12:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

geeze

So you don’t understand how UT has a competitive advantage of having it’s own TV network vs. say…Iowa State even if they both have one?

by Redhawk on Jul 19, 2011 12:37 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Longhorn Football

I can’t wait for the 2011 season to start ! This will be a great break from the Hollywood and the Mission!! In fact watch me keep up with Texas football! Go Longhorns ! Johanna Rae <3 <3 <3 http://youtu.be/rVIRK4Z_gy4

by Johanna Rae on Jul 18, 2011 2:16 PM CDT reply actions  

I'm afraid to click

Porn at the workplace is awesome, though, so let me know if that’s what this is.

QB Garrett Gilbert was the Beavis & Butthead episode of the 2010 college football season. Even when things were going well there was always one bad decision that meant he wasn’t going to score.
http://cfn.scout.com/2/1070636.html

by burntorangehorn on Jul 19, 2011 10:23 AM CDT up reply actions  

Just got my MSP Longhorn Kickoff 2011

Stoked to see the product on the field this year!

by HornsUpInLA on Jul 18, 2011 5:54 PM CDT reply actions  

For ESPN the deal is about dual revenue streams

and multi-platforms. The risk-reward factor is well within the comfort zone of both parties.

Supposedly ESPN is asking 40’cent per subscriber and a place on the expanded basic cable tier. Outside Texas and the surrounding states the channel will be bundled with other ESPN channels for a premium price.

As for ad sales and small ratings — it’s not how many are watching — it’s the demographic that’s watching. The key for ESPN will be in finding the price point to reach a highly selective market that has disposable income.

It is a gamble for ESPN, but one that is well worth taking.

by srr50 on Jul 19, 2011 9:21 AM CDT via mobile reply actions  

oh, I think ESPN fully expects to take a bath in this

and not the good kind

That wasn’t the motivational factor here. It was to keep UT and the Big 12 together. Having more conferences, vs fewer larger super-conferences means more programing available. Super-conferences would have meant fewer available negotiating partners, thus driving the cost up.

$15 mill a year is far less than it would have cost ESPN to compete for the Pac16 TV deal or the Big16 or the SEC16 deals

by Redhawk on Jul 19, 2011 12:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

Interesting notion

That would mean that ESPN’s interest in the Longhorn Network was basically a circuitous way to pay Texas that much more than the rest of the Big 12-2.

QB Garrett Gilbert was the Beavis & Butthead episode of the 2010 college football season. Even when things were going well there was always one bad decision that meant he wasn’t going to score.
http://cfn.scout.com/2/1070636.html

by burntorangehorn on Jul 19, 2011 1:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

yes

AND…to save money versus negotiations with the Super Conferences

Super-Conferences means less supply of sports programing..which means higher costs to ESPN. UT was the key player in Super-Conferences….with UT getting paid, they have no reason to leave the Big 12.

by Redhawk on Jul 19, 2011 3:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

Are you sure

that the 20 year deal and the revenue associated with it is actually locked in? I mean if ESPN pulls the plug in year 3 they are still on the hook for the balance of the $300MM? I find this very hard to believe. Has the contract been made public? I know I would find it a very interesting thing to read. Although I’d bet it’s heavily redacted in spots.

It just seems logical to me that the $300MM number is probably based more on the expected success that both ESPN and UT have projected and sharing of that in some form. It seems much less logical that ESPN would pony up that kind of money on something this groundbreaking and wear all the risk.

by bdavison94 on Jul 19, 2011 1:33 PM CDT reply actions  

I don't think the contract has been made public yet.

However, I’m guessing that ESPN is not allowed to scrap it in the middle and just stop producing the network.

by Texas Wahoo on Jul 19, 2011 2:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

300 million is a lot of money

But in the grand scheme of things for ESPN it isn’t a big deal over 20 years.

BTW the payment is on a sliding scale — less now more on the back end to average $15 million over 20’years.

Again, the financial model — with dual revenue streams — is a proven winner for ESPN.

They do not see the Longhorn Network as a loss leader.

by srr50 on Jul 19, 2011 2:25 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

I am sure

That the contract with ESPN has some form of out clause. ESPN is not stupid. I’m sure they can walk away with some form of financial penalty.

by TempestHorn on Jul 20, 2011 12:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

I’m a UT alum and loyal supporter, but seriously Dave Brown’s comments are disturbing to me. The recruiting benefit you get from this channel is clear enough by simply instilling in high school kids that if they come to Texas to play sports you are going to be on TV. Why do we have to take it one step farther and actually televise a recruit while they are still in high school? I guess I’m suppose to have the attitude we’re the Joneses and it sucks to be everyone else, but I don’t have that attitude.

by TempestHorn on Jul 20, 2011 12:11 PM CDT reply actions  

Enough "Well They Can Start Their Own Networks!" Nonsense

Please. Quit being ridiculous. A “network” that isn’t going to be seen outside of Lawrence, Saint Louis, Lubbock or Stillwater is nowhere near the equal of the bonanza that Texas has with ESPN, DirecTV, etc. If you aspire to be anything other than cannon fodder for UT and OU, the deal stinks.

And if “being a Longhorn hater” means being against Texas dominating the Big 12 for the next 20 years because of what it means for MY program, then wow, color the other 11 teams in the Big 12 “Longhorn haters” because the other 11 want more than sitting and watching the Horns in the Fiesta or Orange Bowl every year after they’ve done beating themselves up over who gets to play in the Cotton or Holiday Bowl. You’d never accept being happy with playing for second place for your own school, so why do you expect the rest of the Big 12 to be happy with it?

Before, it was possible for other schools in the Big 12 to get traction and compete if they had the right coach. Now, except for Oklahoma, who can do fine with the best of Texas leftovers in the Lone Star State and recruit nationally, it is practically impossible. Great for you guys, stinks for everybody else. The other schools won’t even be able to hire top coaching candidates because of the massive advantage that the LHN gives UT (an advantage that you HAVEN’T always enjoyed or exploited despite what you now choose to believe … for example Texas football from 1973 to 2003). You folks just want people to stop talking about it, to say “nothing to see here, move along, this deal doesn’t constitute any real advantage for us that we didn’t have already, and nothing that the other schools can’t have if they start their own networks too” but they aren’t, because it isn’t in their interests to go along with that mythology.

I don’t blame Texas for going out and getting the best deal for itself, incidentally. Instead, the Longhorns should quit discouraging everyone else to do the same, as if it is everyone else’s lot in life to look up to the Horns. “We get to beat Texas once every 10 years, and if we are REALLY lucky or good, once every 5!” Please. Some of the other programs in the Big 12 aspire to more than that, and you can expect them to start considering their options.

by Lurking on Jul 20, 2011 12:45 PM CDT reply actions  

I don't see the problem

Texas was and is looking after it’s own best interests. Do you think your school feels any different?

To put it in Texas lingo – we just cut a fat hog and if you think going to the SEC is your best deal – go for it.

Just stop the damned whining and get on with it – good God!

"you can't be a great defense in a casual manner!" Manny Diaz

by Snide Aside on Jul 20, 2011 7:55 PM CDT reply actions  

looks like

the high schools games AND the extra conference game are on hold now. funny how Beebe waits for the conference to collapse before he takes any action

by miketag on Jul 20, 2011 10:04 PM CDT reply actions  

Texas...what a team of underachievers... year in year out.

Wow…I am amazed at the arrogance of Texas fans. Texas, while being in the bastion of the BEST recruiting land in the entire country…home of 5 star recruits throughout the teams for the past 30 years has how many national titles again? 4 in their entire history! Yeah, you guys are really great. They had the one in 2005 and then you have to go back to 1970 to find another Texas championship. Is that the worst coaching ever there in Texas or do the players feel their Texas sized egos and so don’t think they have to play or practice hard because “hey, we’re Texas Longhorns”.

I get a good laugh at seeing how funny the fans are of the Longhorns who are probably the LEAST successful team ever with the number of high ranking recruits they have. Heck, they hardly even have played for a national championship either. What a joke of a program.

by dlrn64 on Jul 21, 2011 12:38 AM CDT reply actions  

LHN is owned by ESPN NOT UT. Stop the Misinformation

“In sum, the Longhorn Network is a creation of the University of Texas, owned by the University of Texas, launched to serve the interests of the University of Texas. Its relationship with ESPN necessarily must be evaluated in that light, and many of the criticisms of the Longhorn Network simply make no sense in light of that purpose, the role ESPN is playing in the endeavor, and the contract between the two parties.”

This is very misleading. “ESPN has a 20-year agreement to own and operate a year-round, 24-hour network dedicated to Texas athletics” (http://www.utexas.edu/news/2011/04/03/longhorn_network/). ESPN owns the Network. LHN is essentially ESPN8. The difference is instead of having contracts with various conferences, leagues, the WSOP, etc this particular network has exactly one vendor (The University of Texas) which aids in carrying out the very specific mission of its existence.

by Hunter Johnson on Aug 24, 2011 11:06 AM CDT reply actions  

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