Rename the Big XII Conference
by 54b on Jul 27, 2011 12:47 PM CDT
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PrintAnybody else getting tired of reading "Big 12-2" every time the conference is mentioned?
It's not just a name that bloggers use either. I've seen it written that way in the mainstream press as well. I get it. It's a passive aggressive reminder to Dan Beebe and the rest of the Big XII Politburo that size DOES matter and we aren't all that interested in letting a conference made of ten teams continue to live a lie.
That said, from a marketing perspective, I can certainly appreciate and understand why conference officials don't want to walk away from a decade of brand equity in the current name/logo (not to mention the costs of rebranding everything), particularly if there are already plans in the works to add a couple of teams in the near future. Moreover, it's not like the Big Ten hasn't already set a precedent by keeping their name despite years of having 11 teams and now 12.
Regardless, the fact remains that no matter how you quantify it, we've got ten teams and we're still referring to ourselves as the Big XII (the recent media days being a big fat reminder). And I'd rather see us embrace who we are than spend what days this conference has left apologizing for who we are not.
So I was thinking...we've got a lot of clever card carrying BON bastards always at the ready for another plum posting assignment. So what do you say we crowd source some potential new names for the Big XII?
I'm going with:
The Premiere Conference
The Tornado Alliance
Rocky Mountain East Conference (makes us sound big and less flat)
Big Balls and Cowtowns Conference
SCC - South Central Conference
Yeah, we can do better. Let's hear some more. Or just tell me to quit crying and worrying about not being, you know, bigger.
54b
PS. If you actually seen any articles where the Big XII has directly addressed whether or not it will change its name, please link to them too.
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Many people want us...
to share our money from the LHN, so why not rename the conference and then we can share the name.
PS – How much $$$ would we get for the conference using our name and trademark?
"We are Texas. We always expect to be the best." - Sam Acho
If we’re talking about how the conference brands itself, you can’t help but mention that the league office hates the use of “XII” in written format and insists upon “12” in all of its publications. “It’s as easy as 1-2” is their little catchphrase, but they actually stole it from R.C. Slocum’s Counting 101 notes.
by LonghornRoadTrip on Jul 27, 2011 1:05 PM CDT reply actions
We among the Big Ten fanbases
would be happy to lease them to you if you would like.
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Big XII
or 12 are fine with me. We are going to probably add 2 teams at some point so I don’t care. Big 10 went years like that.
Don't be such a baby.
Beebe's Dozen
was in Big12 ESPN blog a bit ago. i still find that damn funny.
is it a complement, in that he gets credit for teams that don’t exist?
is it alluding to the less is more realities of today’s world?
or is it a fresh reminder of a baker’s dozen and how i want some doughnuts?
Texas and Its Servants
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by burntorangehorn on Jul 27, 2011 1:49 PM CDT reply actions
Conference X or just "X"
simple and we have 10 members.
I like this one
Conference X or just “X”
"you can't be a great defense in a casual manner!" Manny Diaz
That does have a ring to it
But, for some odd reason I think the whiny little aggies and Sooners may not like it.
Don't be such a baby.
Go back old school...
Take TCU and Houston back(or not) and just be the “New Southwest Conference”
Uncle. Enough already. In the words of Apollo Creed:"ain't gonna be no rematch" Mercifully, thankfully, the eyes of Texas will no longer be on Nebraska. Oklahoma never inflicted this kind of torture. Please Mack Brown, take your whips and chains and leave the good folks of Nebraska alone! - Omaha World Herald 10-17-10
CPF
"new"
how long would the “New” stay in the name? forever?
Conference Ideas….
Central American Conference (that might make it sound like everyone is from Mexico, so maybe not)
Central Plains Conference
South Central Conference
The Greater Central Conference
Conference America
The I-35 Conference
Greater Texas Conference
Longhorns & Associates Conference
Let's see:
Pre-Pac16
Texas’ Teats
Enjoy It While It Lasts, Wildcats
Conference Ephemeral
The Brisket Conference
The RRR and Undercards
The By-A-Thread Conference
The Don’t-Forget-A&M-You’re-Here-Forever Conference
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by BrooklynHorn on Jul 27, 2011 10:26 PM CDT up reply actions
I know a Longhorn that wouldn't have problems with it..
Sergio Kindle knows if you remove 2 beers from a 12 pack, only 10 are left.
yeah, A&M and OU might have trouble with that one.
A&M and OU might have trouble with that one.
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by run Bevo run on Jul 28, 2011 9:40 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
You can say that again.
Do not be distracted by what you see, but be transformed by what you believe.
Technically Big 8-2+4 but who is counting?
You miss 100% of the shots you don't take. -Wayne Gretzky
Aggies and Sooners might have trouble with than one.
They might have trouble with that one. Aggies and Sooners might.
by Infield Elephant on Jul 28, 2011 6:52 PM CDT up reply actions
I like "Big 12-Minus 5"
And then we count it down.
Make it to Minus 4 next year, and so on, cuz I don’t see it lasting more than five years.
Texas/Louisiana Purchase Conference
And if you add 2 more schools in Texas you have your division names
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by fanoflosingteams on Jul 27, 2011 3:14 PM CDT reply actions
The Big One Conference
Greg Davis haikus; a lot like his offenses; always go sideways.
by pleaseplaykindle on Jul 27, 2011 3:16 PM CDT reply actions
The Prince Conference
A la wiki:
“In addressing the question of whether it is better to be loved or feared, Machiavelli writes, "The answer is that one would like to be both the one and the other; but because it is difficult to combine them, it is far safer to be feared than loved if you cannot be both." As Machiavelli asserts, commitments made in peace are not always kept in adversity; however, commitments made in fear are kept out of fear. Yet, a prince must ensure that he is not feared to the point of hatred, which is very possible.
This chapter is possibly the most well-known of the work, and it is important because of the reasoning behind Machiavelli’s famous idea that it is better to be feared than loved30 – his justification is purely pragmatic; as he notes, "Men worry less about doing an injury to one who makes himself loved than to one who makes himself feared." Fear is simply a means to an end, and that end is security for the prince. The fear instilled should never be excessive, for that could be dangerous to the prince. Above all, Machiavelli argues, do not interfere with the property of their subjects, their women, or the life of somebody without proper justification."
by ChampionshipHunter on Jul 27, 2011 3:17 PM CDT reply actions
Central America Conference
or… Little Conference on the Prairie
A couple I like:
Big Central Conference (BCC)
Southwestern Conference (to differentiate it from the Southwest Conference)
I’d be satisfied with either of those. Big Central Conference, BCC, does have a certain ring to it, though. We just have to get away from putting a number in our title and BCC sounds like it belongs as it’s a good companion name to the ACC.
"Hey, don't y'all think that's beautiful right there? That crystal is SO beautiful. And it's coming home to Texas." - Vince Young
Not to mention the Big East.
"Hey, don't y'all think that's beautiful right there? That crystal is SO beautiful. And it's coming home to Texas." - Vince Young
BCC - My initials.
I’m for it.
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by utlonghorn24 on Jul 30, 2011 2:55 PM CDT up reply actions
NO... Central America Conference OTOH
The Central America Conference sounds too PanAmerican
Is “Heartland Conference” taken?
I thought it was...
… although it’s been one of my favorite possibilities, and if it’s available, it wouldn’t be too bad, would it?
One the other hand, maybe what we need is a Prince-type Symbol, which we can say is “The Conference Formerly Known as XII”. Let’s see how long ESPN can fumble around with that mouthful before they come up with an acceptable substitute.
Heartland conf taken
nix heartland conference… it’s a division 2 NCAA conference
TBBC
Ten Beebe ballers conference….or you could replace ten with tiny. see what i did there?
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by I bleed Red and Black on Jul 27, 2011 4:18 PM CDT reply actions
Gulf Plains Conference
now that we lost the Mountains and all…or how about the Farm Belt Conference?
Big Southwest
Combining Big 8 and Southwest Conferences. Since that is what happened.
Do not be distracted by what you see, but be transformed by what you believe.
Big Southwest without the Pest
Since we did get rid of the children of the corn.
Don't be such a baby.
Big Southwest...
…I like that!
Uncle. Enough already. In the words of Apollo Creed:"ain't gonna be no rematch" Mercifully, thankfully, the eyes of Texas will no longer be on Nebraska. Oklahoma never inflicted this kind of torture. Please Mack Brown, take your whips and chains and leave the good folks of Nebraska alone! - Omaha World Herald 10-17-10
CPF
Big Southwest was a name I suggested on past blogs and also when the Big 12 was formed.
At the time, I thought it demeaning that Texas joined up and didn’t insist on a better name. I would have originally divided ‘em into the traditional “Big 8” and traditional “Southwest” divisions and switched Colorado and Mizzou to balance it out. Texas / OU would have met in the CCG more often instead of prematurely ending the south division race in October. Big 8 & Big 12 have always sounded so elementary school-ish to me, like it was done with crayons. “Southwest” in the title has so much more personality. “Big Southwest” would have been perfect … but I guess the Big 8 officials just couldn’t stand not having a juvenile ring to it. Did they really not ever expect for the membership # to change? I saw it coming a mile away – and now here we are.
Big 8 officials could do what they wanted...
Their conference wasn’t the one that imploded. Anything with “southwest” in it would just be so much classier than numbers eh? Who doesn’t want to be associated with runaway corruption.
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The user formerly known as EMAWrising
Runaway corruption? You mean like the Oklahoma Sooners?
Uh, don’t be so provincial that you think OU wasn’t just as corrupt as SMU – just in a different way.
“Big 8 officials could do what they wanted…”You mean like not changing anything about partial qualifiers? Guess Texas DID have something to say about the new conference, huh?
The Whataburger Conference.
In Hopkins’ honor.
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by lnghrn53 on Jul 27, 2011 4:49 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
I remember someone saying it last year
but if the Pac 16 ever happened, it could be split into Whataburger and In N Out divisions
The If Your Name Isn't Texas Or Oklahoma You Don't Matter Conference
too long?
formerly "Horns102591"
It would be too similar to the old Big 8.
Just replace “Texas” with “Nebraska”. It was even more true back then.
Texas' administration offices may be farther from the interstate but ...
… don’t both schools’ land abut the freeway? Let’s call it a toss-up. Don’t wanna lose to those Bears again.
I think this is right
LonghornEm could settle this for us, but I’m going to go out on a limb and guess that she is really drunk right now as I type this.
by Hopkins Horn on Jul 28, 2011 5:16 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
I like the I-35 thing
It works well for so many of the schools in the conference. Texas, Baylor, OU, Kansas (it is a little bit away, but Lawrence isn’t that far from I-35), Oak. St. (again, I-35 doesn’t go through Stillwater, but it is pretty close), Iowa St. Just need to add the University of Minnesota, and you will be all set.
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I've GOT to meet this gal sometime!
The picture of virtue that you paint her in is amazing. She sounds like an angel.
I wish more people would be serious about the name.
It really should be changed. Big Central Conference is the best I’ve heard.
"Hey, don't y'all think that's beautiful right there? That crystal is SO beautiful. And it's coming home to Texas." - Vince Young
Big Southwest is much better than Big Central. It at least has character to it.
Screw Iowa St. & Mizzou if they don’t feel Southwestern. They’re hangin’ on by a thread anyway.
So "character" means...
Corruption?
"I refuse to write on the chalkboard because I refuse to rock chalk, at all times." -The Forum
The user formerly known as EMAWrising
We get it.
You watched 30 for 30 on SMU and now you think you can tell us about the SWC. Move on.
Do not be distracted by what you see, but be transformed by what you believe.
by 2Cor12:9 on Jul 31, 2011 3:02 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
You really think he's gettin' it from that?! Maybe he's just impaired.
It’s more of a hypnotic reaction to the word “character”. It’s kinda like when Woody on Cheers would hear “VeggieBoy”, a drink made from kale, and then he would say, “I like it!”
Other decent ones:
The Big Plains Conference
The Gulf Plains Conference
The Gulf Central Conference
"Hey, don't y'all think that's beautiful right there? That crystal is SO beautiful. And it's coming home to Texas." - Vince Young
You know
they’re going to keep it the Big XII, right? Because no one gives a sh!t about math in this country. Or maybe it’ll change to some droll patriotic blather like “Big America Conference” because we flyover-country types are supposed to get a hardon for that stuff.
I can guarantee you that no new name would have the word “Southwest” in it though. That would just be rubbing it in.
Nor would it be “The Big Zero”, because that’s too close to the truth.
Go old school
Southwest Conference
by Dawnpatrol on Jul 27, 2011 8:11 PM CDT via mobile reply actions 2 recs
NSMT
’Nited States ’Merica Texas conference!
Whichever schools aren’t in Texas get roped in to the ’Merica part.
Stipulation: must be pronounced with a country twang.
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No.
"Hey, don't y'all think that's beautiful right there? That crystal is SO beautiful. And it's coming home to Texas." - Vince Young
Rename the Big 12
I say call it the Big 3 with the logo of this: \m/ ,.l.. <————a hook ’em sign and a middle finger
I say just go with The Big Conference
It doesn’t limit or define us numerically or geographically and it’s simple enough that if aggy continues to not get invited to join another conference and we are stuck with them,,even they can read it, spell it and remember it.
There is not a situation or individual that cannot be improved by the addition of chocolate.
Big 10 and Pac 12
I think it shows how smart the Pac 10, now 12 is to adjust their name whn needed. The Big 10 is showing their arrogance or stupidity for being stuck on 10 when they have had 11 for so long and just blended a 11 into the 10 and now that they have 12, they still can’t adjust their Conference name. I do expect that the Big 12 will eventually add two more teams so to leave it the Big 12 would leave those 2 spots open virtually. I’ve always been in favor of conference names that weren’t contingent on the number of official schools associated with the conference. This way, the conference name would never need to be changed due to changes in the number of schools in the conference. Maybe the Central American Conference for the Big 12? All Big 12 stats and records can be included into the new name like when team franchises move cities and retain the former cities stats and records.
Branding has power
Whether or not Big 12 or Big 10 have the branding power that justifies keeping those names is a reasonable question, but it’s not a drop kick like changing the Pac 10 to Pac 12. The branding in that name is “Pac(ific)”, not the number.
It’s why companies like old school video game console manufacturer Coleco never changed its name even when their business model took them far, far away from the original meaning of their name (which was short for “Colorado Leather Company”).
Texas 10 Conference
I don’t see any reason to hide what we are. And aTm can’t complain because they’re in Texas, too.
Why are Texas fans making these kinds of jokes?
Shouldn’t these be reserved for our haters?
"Hey, don't y'all think that's beautiful right there? That crystal is SO beautiful. And it's coming home to Texas." - Vince Young
I like it! Well done, Redhawk.
You need to patent that logo while you’ve got a chance. It’s hot!
Like the Big 10 with their hidden 11...
Have our logo show one thing, but say another.
Old : Big XII
New: Big X-II
Graphically, almost identical to current logo..
Still referred to as the Big Twelve… but in written form, our new logo says we are the “Big Ten, Too” or “Big Ten, (v.) Two”… Eitherways
Serious Links on Conference Name Change
Last year, it was assumed, the Big 12 would change it’s name, and even Beebe said they were looking at the possibility. And they went so far as hiring a consultant firm to study it.
This spring the Conference Board of Directors were to meet and one of the things on the table was a name change….it was assumed, they would come up with a new name…but they stayed with the “Big 12”.
Thank you
Rationale doesn’t seem very sound, but it’s not like Beebe was going to say, “well, we’re keeping the name because we’ve got two schools lined up to join us next summer.”
Be nobody but yourself in a world that desperately wants you to be like everybody else.
SQC
Steers and Queers Conference (not that there is anything wrong with that)
Thumbs up to the moderators
11 hours and counting with this on the site. I wonder if any of you read what other people write.
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by run Bevo run on Jul 29, 2011 11:31 PM CDT up reply actions
I've yet to come across a person that care what your thoughts are
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by run Bevo run on Jul 31, 2011 9:31 AM CDT up reply actions
Gay slurs are an embarrassment on humanity
Move along now.
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by run Bevo run on Aug 15, 2011 1:11 PM CDT up reply actions
Big Country Conference (BCC)
BCC is a BCS conference.
See ya later, alligator.
Since OU has ruled the conference with an iron fist in the last 11 years
Why not call it the Sooner Conference? The Crimson and Cream Conference? Or get God on our side and call it the Bible Belt Conference?
Or why not take a page from Prince’s book, and call it “The Conference formerly known as the Big 12”?
The Chicked Fried Steak Conference? I think the Oklahoma and Texas schools could agree on that one.
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