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Yes, Mike, you will have to play Alabama every year.

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The season will start soon so we should honor that glorious time of year with a countdown. Today we honor little brother.

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This Is Bad For Texas

We can chide Aggie all we want – but this has the smell of a bad move for Texas. Letting the SEC get traction in Texas, bringing their sleazy recruiting tactics into our backyard is not good. It may well be a bad move for Aggie as well – if they become a bottom tier program along the lines of a Mississippi St. – that will hurt. But the real thing that just ticks me off is that Beebe and the boys could not piece together a conference agreement with enough teeth to avoid this situation within a year.

Change isn't good or bad it just "is". Don Draper of Madmen

by realmccoy on Aug 15, 2011 10:00 AM CDT reply actions  

So true.

Come to think of it, the old SW Conf. teams would fit right in the SEC. And especially the Aggies. Those boys knew how to cheat.

"Be who you are, and say what you feel, because those that mind don’t matter and those that matter don’t mind."
- Dr. Seuss

by dimecoverage on Aug 15, 2011 11:20 AM CDT up reply actions  

Sleazy tactics yes - SEC traction NO

Sure there is and always has been sleazy recruiting in Texas – but you are missing some key points -

1. When the sleaze was at its peak – SMU was better than Texas.
2. But we are not only importing sleaze – we are importing the premier football conference in the country and the sleaze. We lose a player or 2 to LSU a year. Look for that to jump significantly, get a couple of extra recruits to the A schools, and A&M should steal an extra one or 2 so they can stay close to home and still play in the SEC.

Not a small problem my friends.

Change isn't good or bad it just "is". Don Draper of Madmen

by realmccoy on Aug 15, 2011 12:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

It is amazing that

the inept Beebe, who apparently never heard the word pro-active, wasn’t replaced after last year’s near melt-down of the conference.

"Only angry people win football games." --DKR

by OBdoc on Aug 16, 2011 1:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

It comes down to money. whills had a great response to a visiting Ag and he lays out why they are in dire need of cash and fell behind.

And, no, it wasn’t Texas fault.

"Be who you are, and say what you feel, because those that mind don’t matter and those that matter don’t mind."
- Dr. Seuss

by dimecoverage on Aug 15, 2011 10:07 AM CDT reply actions  

You really think we are running scared of Bama?

Infact Bama is the kind of team that we want to play in every game. This is the kind of step up in competition that we wish Big XII would have. Infact, we might play one of the SEC teams in the NC game if the refs don’t job us in the Big XII this year. Oh, and Aggies to SEC is still happening. Behind closed doors everybody in the SEC wants us.

by YUMC on Aug 15, 2011 10:11 AM CDT reply actions  

Welcome. We were concerned we wouldn’t get your enlightened take on the SEC situation.

And of course the Aggies will do beautifully against Nick Saban. I never had any doubts.

"Be who you are, and say what you feel, because those that mind don’t matter and those that matter don’t mind."
- Dr. Seuss

by dimecoverage on Aug 15, 2011 10:20 AM CDT up reply actions  

9-win season getting to your head much?

When talking about wanting a higher level of competition, have you forgotten just how unbelievably mediocre Texas A&M has been throughout virtually the entire existence of the league? If another team were to make the same claim about wanting better competition within the Big 12, the Aggies would be a major culprit for struggling so long.

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by Wescott Eberts (GoBR) on Aug 15, 2011 10:26 AM CDT up reply actions  

So you wanna be 6-6 every year? One of my grandfathers is from Louisiana and he is a LSU fan I told him about all this and he said and I quote “do they think they are gonna be anything other than 2nd fiddle to Alabama, LSU, Miss St., and Arkansas?”

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by horns1025 on Aug 15, 2011 10:26 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Snap

Where was this LSU grandpa and his opinion a month ago? Could have saved us all a lot of trouble with the whole conference shuffle stuff.

by H ouston on Aug 15, 2011 10:28 AM CDT up reply actions  

lol wanna know the really funny part?

HE’S TOTALLY RIGHT!!!!!!! You think you are compete with Alabama and LSU? You barely compete with Texas and OU. Your best team in the last 10 years got utterly destroyed by just a good LSU team. What do you think a great Alabama or LSU team is gonna do? Man I’m sure Saban and Miles are just shaking in their offices huddled up in a corner in fear of the aggies……oh wait……

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by horns1025 on Aug 15, 2011 10:33 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Know what's even funnier.

I SO TOTALLY AGREE. Essentially this is all your fault for not getting your grandpa and Loftin in a room together to discuss these things. Damn You !!!

by H ouston on Aug 15, 2011 10:36 AM CDT up reply actions  

Na he’s grateful for the sure win says LSU needs all the sure wins they can get in the SEC

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by horns1025 on Aug 15, 2011 10:38 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Then why are you complaining about the Aggies move.

One happy grandpa is a victory for us all. Let’s stop the hatred and sing Kumbaya, shall we ?

by H ouston on Aug 15, 2011 10:40 AM CDT up reply actions  

I’m not complaining I want you to go….I may not understand why you wanna go but I support it

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by horns1025 on Aug 15, 2011 10:41 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

I don't hate Aggies

Why, some of my best friends..

OK, that’s not true. But I don’t hate Aggies, I find them to be very entertaining – particularly during an ungodly hot August before real football starts.

by DudeAbide on Aug 15, 2011 10:42 AM CDT up reply actions  

Good.

So you two then support keeping our Thanksgiving Day game going every year? I mean, a sure win for LSU is double sure victory for you guys, right ? ?

by H ouston on Aug 15, 2011 10:43 AM CDT up reply actions  

I support keeping the game with OU

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by horns1025 on Aug 15, 2011 10:46 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Only reason to not also keep the A&M game

would be as a form of punishment to the Aggies for leaving.
But you welcome us leaving.. so why would you want to punish us?
Plus.. you’ll kick our ass every year, right ? Why would you not want an automatic win every year ? I thought longhorns were smart.

by H ouston on Aug 15, 2011 10:53 AM CDT up reply actions  

I never said I liked A&M I don’t wanna play you guys cause your fanbase keeps talking shit they are actually leading the series and I think denying you guys your purpose for living would hilarious

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by horns1025 on Aug 15, 2011 10:56 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Too bad for you..

your administration won’t be listening to you emotional whiny fans and that the game will continue.

So.. how’s your LHN going? Got a 2nd game yet? Got any cable companies to pick it up yet? Time’s a tickin ?
If a cable station launches and there’s no one around to watch it…..

by H ouston on Aug 15, 2011 11:03 AM CDT up reply actions  

If a cable station launches and there’s no one around to watch it…..

We still get $300 million, which is so much better than having to borrow $4 million to keep you athletic department afloat.

by DudeAbide on Aug 15, 2011 11:05 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Considering that some officials have said that Texas isn’t interested in playing A&M if they aren’t in the same conference id say you’re wrong

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by horns1025 on Aug 15, 2011 11:07 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

dimecoverage

says Dodds says differently.

But keep wishing with all your might, ok ?

by H ouston on Aug 15, 2011 11:10 AM CDT up reply actions  

I think you’re hoping more for it than me

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by horns1025 on Aug 15, 2011 11:11 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Be sure to read the whole comment.

"Be who you are, and say what you feel, because those that mind don’t matter and those that matter don’t mind."
- Dr. Seuss

by dimecoverage on Aug 15, 2011 11:12 AM CDT up reply actions  

so the SEC

already told a&m for sure that it won’t be a problem?

Sally, will you meet me at the airport?

by TxHorns247 on Aug 15, 2011 12:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

Actually, yes

Because I’d just hate for you guys to have to change your fight song to, “Run down to tha Seven-Elleben and get me some Kotex and a case of Coors Lite, Bubba.”

by DudeAbide on Aug 15, 2011 10:54 AM CDT up reply actions  

thats funny..

Cuz we would care less if you changed the 2nd line of “Texas Fight” from “And it’s goodbye to A&M” …
Seriously.. everytime i hear a longhorn go off on our fight song, i wonder how many longhorns even know the lyrics to their own song.
Sad.

by H ouston on Aug 15, 2011 10:57 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yea we only say it once….you guys say it over and over and over and over your song has a whole verse about Texas

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by horns1025 on Aug 15, 2011 10:59 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

You may be on to something.

Saw Tiger’s Balls off…
Saw Tiger’s Baaaallllss off..

by H ouston on Aug 15, 2011 11:08 AM CDT up reply actions  

What about playing the Vols every year? It won’t require much thought. Same abbreviation, same color, just a different shade…

"Be who you are, and say what you feel, because those that mind don’t matter and those that matter don’t mind."
- Dr. Seuss

by dimecoverage on Aug 15, 2011 11:09 AM CDT up reply actions  

Saw Smokey’s Tail off
Saw Smokey’s tail off
Sounds like animal cruelty they better not sing that

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by horns1025 on Aug 15, 2011 11:14 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Bet Smokey would love a...

certain Collie if he could get thought the nut grabbers.

"We are Texas. We always expect to be the best." - Sam Acho

by Bevoboy94 on Aug 15, 2011 11:46 AM CDT up reply actions  

I was thinking more along the lines of...

Saw ‘em off,
Saw ’em off,
Saw Bama’s elephant tusks off
Make the Tuscaloosa…

once someone explains it to the aggies, they’ll love it…

by Pflash on Aug 15, 2011 11:50 AM CDT up reply actions  

Tuscaloosa

and how he got in my pajamas I’ll never know

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by Caradoc on Aug 15, 2011 1:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ouch, Well it should be a good rivalry...

but how about saw Bama’s tusk off, saw Bama’s tusk off—you will be playing them every year also and it transitions better with the song.

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by mjtig on Aug 15, 2011 3:24 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Entertaining...

That is probably the worst thing you can say to an Aggie.

They want to be hated and feared by Texas, like we hate and often fear the Sooners. We are their rival, but our true rival is Oklahoma.

"Be who you are, and say what you feel, because those that mind don’t matter and those that matter don’t mind."
- Dr. Seuss

by dimecoverage on Aug 15, 2011 10:44 AM CDT up reply actions  

You should be reading the OU boards more

You’d be surprised with the growing sentiment of saying screw it to the RRR.
That being said.. wanting to not be marginalized is not the same as wanting to be feared. Furthermore.. wanting to not live under the same roof as our brother deosn’t mean we still wanna stop by and say Hi each yr. It’s as simple as that. Playing the game and sharing a conference are two separate issues. The only reason I’ve heard tossed about for the game not being continued is that the longhornss would be too mad about our leaving the conference… but from what I gather here.. that just isn’t true. You welcome our departure. So I don’t what the hangup is.. Game on.

by H ouston on Aug 15, 2011 10:51 AM CDT up reply actions  

We want to schedule a quality opponent

That’s the only reason The Horns would have for ending the annaul meeting.

by DudeAbide on Aug 15, 2011 10:57 AM CDT up reply actions  

I don’t see anything that says UT doesn’t want to continue the game. Dodds said something he would have to see. I highly doubt he is basing that statement on ending the series. It has to do with scheduling, especially yours. There are more teams (overall) in the SEC and you will have six opponents in your division alone. Texas has eight games plus whatever preseason games are already scheduled.

"Be who you are, and say what you feel, because those that mind don’t matter and those that matter don’t mind."
- Dr. Seuss

by dimecoverage on Aug 15, 2011 11:01 AM CDT up reply actions  

OU has boards?

So they finally resolved the “how do you spell www” conundrum?

by DudeAbide on Aug 15, 2011 11:02 AM CDT up reply actions  

Mack clap for that one. :-)

"Be who you are, and say what you feel, because those that mind don’t matter and those that matter don’t mind."
- Dr. Seuss

by dimecoverage on Aug 15, 2011 11:08 AM CDT up reply actions  

Dubyadubyadubya!

New Orleans, here we come.

by KratosWasASooner on Aug 16, 2011 11:01 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

As far as OU boards, it is like reading Texags. The difference is that Aggies can usually spell and put together coherent sentences.

Would they end the RRR? Not on your life.

"Be who you are, and say what you feel, because those that mind don’t matter and those that matter don’t mind."
- Dr. Seuss

by dimecoverage on Aug 15, 2011 11:05 AM CDT up reply actions  

No Way They WOuld Walk OUt Of The RRR

It’s one of the top three rivalry games in the country, a game that always determines who the Big XII champion will be and often who will be one of the teams in the MNC.

It also gives 50k Okies the opportunity to discover that life need not begin and end in a double-wide.

by DudeAbide on Aug 15, 2011 11:09 AM CDT up reply actions  

Mack clap redux.

You are on a roll.

"Be who you are, and say what you feel, because those that mind don’t matter and those that matter don’t mind."
- Dr. Seuss

by dimecoverage on Aug 15, 2011 11:10 AM CDT up reply actions  

And that’s the attitude they’re getting tired of. Seriously. Go step in to their boards…. IT may just be fan talk at the moment.. but will of the fans has worked out well for us Aggies thus far.

by H ouston on Aug 15, 2011 11:11 AM CDT up reply actions  

"Will of the Fans"

Made y’all the laughing stock of the nation [again] when the SEC turned you down Sunday.

by DudeAbide on Aug 15, 2011 11:13 AM CDT up reply actions  

You sir

just confirmed you are biased and have no clue whatsoever. Go read Staples or OKTC. Educate yourself, son. Cuz otherwise, you’re pretty useless to everyone here.

by H ouston on Aug 15, 2011 11:17 AM CDT up reply actions  

yeah

I told Dodds and Forde to go read Staples and OKTC too…
Y’all suffered through Chip last summer.. I’d think you’d be a little better at weeding through the journalists that know what they’re talking about.

by H ouston on Aug 15, 2011 11:23 AM CDT up reply actions  

Per OU ending RRR

Ummmm, no. Head Land Thief board owner had no words for the basic stupidity of that premise.

The Sonners and Horns live to hate each other. Our lives would be void of meaning and direction if we could not play in October.

"Be who you are, and say what you feel, because those that mind don’t matter and those that matter don’t mind."
- Dr. Seuss

by dimecoverage on Aug 15, 2011 11:26 AM CDT up reply actions  

Oops…Sooners.

"Be who you are, and say what you feel, because those that mind don’t matter and those that matter don’t mind."
- Dr. Seuss

by dimecoverage on Aug 15, 2011 11:26 AM CDT up reply actions  

Since ya don’t know. Staples writes for Sports Illustrated.. perhaps you’ve heard of them. And OKTC’s main writer is a SEC sports radio host.

I’m not asking you to believe me.. but hey, you’re choosing to ignore that ESPN has a dog in this fight and choosing to get your info from them. I do feel sorry for you.. you’ll be one of the few shocked when this all does go down.

by H ouston on Aug 15, 2011 11:31 AM CDT up reply actions  

If OU fans can't take a little good-natured ribbing

Then they should get a new mascot, like a little furry dog or something.

by DudeAbide on Aug 15, 2011 11:16 AM CDT up reply actions  

Just tweeted Sooners, including one who runs one of the largest Land Thief boards. I’ll let you know what comes back about the RRR.

"Be who you are, and say what you feel, because those that mind don’t matter and those that matter don’t mind."
- Dr. Seuss

by dimecoverage on Aug 15, 2011 11:16 AM CDT up reply actions  

Oh, and be patient. Land Thieves read slowly as they sound out the words. Then they have to craft a response. It may take a while.

"Be who you are, and say what you feel, because those that mind don’t matter and those that matter don’t mind."
- Dr. Seuss

by dimecoverage on Aug 15, 2011 11:17 AM CDT up reply actions  

The hangup is

that playing aggie holds no upside for Texas. It’s just like, say, OU playing, oh, I don’t know – Boise State. If the land thieves win, it’s no big deal, because they were supposed to win. They’re a big-time program with a long history playing an overmatched opponent.

If they lose, then they got embarrassed by an upstart who had more guts, felt disrespected, was just excited to be there, etc.

This is the hangup Texas has with aggie. (I will, out of respect, pause here while you enter the obligatory ‘24-17’ reply.) Most of the time, there is no upside to playing aggie. Most of the time, we are supposed to beat them. Most of the time, we do (3 out of the last 11 times notwithstanding).

So, if you go, then why would we continue to schedule a late-season opportunity to get upset on a national stage, just before bowl selections are made, in exchange for maintaining the competitive status quo of the last 100 years or so? Just so we can all get a warm fuzzy about tradition? How ’bout a new tradition? How ’bout South Bend every other Thanksgiving? Sure, it would be cold as hell, but what an experience it would be.

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by adt2 on Aug 15, 2011 3:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

"You really think we are running scared of Bama?"

No, I think you are too busy running scared from Arkansas.

by DudeAbide on Aug 15, 2011 10:38 AM CDT up reply actions  

Infact ..

is actually two words, in fact.

by NYCHorn on Aug 15, 2011 10:54 AM CDT up reply actions  

Did I mess that up? I’ve been using way too many hyphens lately when they aren’t needed.

"Be who you are, and say what you feel, because those that mind don’t matter and those that matter don’t mind."
- Dr. Seuss

by dimecoverage on Aug 15, 2011 11:05 AM CDT up reply actions  

Different Day, Different Story

So now the move is about playing better competition? Last week it was the unfair recruiting advantage Texas would have with the LHN, the week before it was about money, etc…

Also love how the refs have to “job” you out of playing for a MNC, can the aggros ever take responsibility for anything – its always someone else’s fault why you suck. Enjoy mediocrity, oh yeah it’ll be just like your time in the Big XII. All about the benjamins really.

Keep changing your song and dance aggros, the SEC will lie, steal and cheat you out of everything you think you are going to get and I for one will sit back and laugh. Funny how one 9 win season in the last 12 years leads you to believe that you will actually compete in the “best” conference in the land. They want Texas in general for recruiting, be it through a$m or Baylor, they want access not necessarily the aggros.

"Sectional football games have the glory and the despair of war, and when a Texas team takes the field against a foreign state, it is an army with banners."
~John Steinbeck

by HazzardousHorns on Aug 15, 2011 11:40 AM CDT up reply actions  

If thats true then where were they on your out of conference schedule?

Did I miss something?

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by Filemon G on Aug 15, 2011 12:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

YUMC..LOL

Of course the SEC wants you guys..The Harlem Globetrotters are always looking for the next Washington Generals..

by bevomav on Aug 15, 2011 2:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

Keep posting here guys.

Anything to keep your minds off the previous “Gilbert is Sucking” post and the impending 6-7 win season.

by H ouston on Aug 15, 2011 10:26 AM CDT reply actions  

You are just setting yourself up for a 2009 OU season where you have 15 injuries in the first 3 games…..

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by horns1025 on Aug 15, 2011 10:34 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Though I admit..

i haven’t been following your other QB alternatives nearly as close…so no clue if you have a Tannehill behind your Johnson.

by H ouston on Aug 15, 2011 10:46 AM CDT up reply actions  

But you have a sheep in front of yours

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by Hopkins Horn on Aug 15, 2011 11:11 AM CDT up reply actions  

Ha! You might have heard this before

How do aggies practice safe sex?……they mark the sheep that kick!

"Power corrupts. Absolute power is kind of neat."

by MexicanTitanFreak on Aug 15, 2011 11:12 AM CDT up reply actions  

thank bevo for sheep huh

30 years and y’all havent had to come up with new material for aggie jokes. bully for you.

by H ouston on Aug 15, 2011 11:14 AM CDT up reply actions  

Its a joke...you know not really true.

But pretty humorous to make the day go by! Somebody is fiesty!

"Power corrupts. Absolute power is kind of neat."

by MexicanTitanFreak on Aug 15, 2011 11:17 AM CDT up reply actions  

Kind of like calling us t-sips?

Coming from the school that has used the same insults for a century…

by burnt40 on Aug 15, 2011 11:22 AM CDT up reply actions  

And “tu” was funny the first million times

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by horns1025 on Aug 15, 2011 11:23 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

difference is

I’ve done neither here today or anywhere on your boards… you have.

by H ouston on Aug 15, 2011 11:24 AM CDT up reply actions  

I’ve never made a sheep joke and you can check that

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by horns1025 on Aug 15, 2011 11:29 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

No matter how old somthing is, its always going to new to somebody.

Another joke according to your post

30yrs = two decades? ha!

"Power corrupts. Absolute power is kind of neat."

by MexicanTitanFreak on Aug 15, 2011 11:23 AM CDT up reply actions  

touche

ya caught me typing before thinking.. well done sir.

by H ouston on Aug 15, 2011 11:25 AM CDT up reply actions  

See, ha ha! now we move on.

"Power corrupts. Absolute power is kind of neat."

by MexicanTitanFreak on Aug 15, 2011 11:26 AM CDT up reply actions  

"aha" moment

seems to be a common theme for ag: acting before thinking. now if i could only find another example of them doing that….

I don't understand "t-sip" as an insult. I like drinking tea, and when is being classy a bad thing?

by TexaStunna on Aug 15, 2011 11:51 AM CDT up reply actions  

an aggie is going to say that?

have you not been to iamthe12thman.com? where a realignment post garners hundreds of response while a post about fall camp practices starting gets maybe 5 or 6 comments. get outta here

Sally, will you meet me at the airport?

by TxHorns247 on Aug 15, 2011 1:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think the SEC recruiting inTexas issue is overblown

If someone from Texas is good enough to get a offer at UF, Bama, Auburn, and A&M, they’ll probably go East unless they really, really want to stay close to Mama or we offer, of course. I think it’ll depend on how the aggies are faring in the SEC. If they are one of the conference back markers every year as most people expect, they won’t be able to get the ones we go after. Now, if the aggies start making noise (and not the whining, thumb-sucking kind) in the SEC, then we might have to worry. At least that’s what my crystal ball thinks but my crystal ball did not qualify for entry into Mensa, so there you go.

Hook Em Horns!

by spinmonkey on Aug 15, 2011 10:32 AM CDT reply actions  

Yes! Glad someone said it

I don’t know enough about the intricacies of recruiting policy and practice, but the best kids get recruited nationwide anyway. The real benefit to the SEC getting a foothold in Texas, it seems to me, is access to tv screens.

by NYCHorn on Aug 15, 2011 10:56 AM CDT up reply actions  

Texas kids aren't inclined to go to the deep south

And, their parents are not going to like the culture for their kids.

I don’t like this move at all, but Texas will be Texas. And, in the end, all h.s. kids want to play for Winners, not Losers. Texas kids are not going to want to play for Aggies if they are not winning the SEC. So, what is the real risk? LSU is going to have the most upshot in recruiting, but Texas kids that aren’t from east TX and already used to the cajun culture are not likely to find it appealing.

A&M isn't even in the $EC yet, and they are already 0-1.

by Wrangler86 on Aug 15, 2011 12:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

I believe it was GBR who brought up proximity and recruiting. Kids like to have their parents in the stands and so a lot go to schools relatively close to home. With the economy the way it is, travel is even more of an issue.

What the Aggies fail to grasp is that SEC schools will get to play at Kyle field every other year. LSU and Alabama can be reached by a car trip in about a day if you live in East Texas. All Sherman’s gains in the Houston/E. Texas area (and he has made a big strides in recruiting in that area) may be will be diminished by Saban.

I think it will have an effect on A&M, but not necessarily Texas. Will Sherman be able to steer kids from Florida, Georgia, Mississippi, etc. to A&M? I doubt it.

"Be who you are, and say what you feel, because those that mind don’t matter and those that matter don’t mind."
- Dr. Seuss

by dimecoverage on Aug 15, 2011 12:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

Agreed

It will help LSU and Alabama, and hurt A&M, UH, and Baylor. It may also hurt OU a bit.

The aggies will be the bottom of the barrell, and no kid wants to go to a&m to compete for 7th or 8th in the conference. And, there will be no love shown by the $EC to get a&m a good bowl game.

I don’t think it hurts Texas because the top kids that have decent grades generally pick the best school in the state. Gosh, now I get to be called arrogant by the other sites.

A&M isn't even in the $EC yet, and they are already 0-2. Aggie's aren't going anywhere until Joe Jamail says they can.

by Wrangler86 on Aug 15, 2011 4:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'll save them the trouble.

You’re arrogant, Texas is arrogant, and the school pushes everyone around. (If I see something like this one more time in the national media, I’ll scream.)

I’m heading out to yoga class for peace of mind.

"Be who you are, and say what you feel, because those that mind don’t matter and those that matter don’t mind."
- Dr. Seuss

by dimecoverage on Aug 15, 2011 4:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

Agreed

If Florida State can get DT Malcolm Brown, Flordia, ALabama and Auburn can recruit Texas as well.

by DudeAbide on Aug 15, 2011 10:36 AM CDT reply actions  

Malcom Brown is going to Texas

Mario Edwards is going to FSU, and he’s a legacy.

by mnHorn on Aug 15, 2011 11:41 AM CDT up reply actions  

I think you mean Mario Edwards.

In which case, his father played at Florida State, which is the main connection. Otherwise, the Seminoles haven’t exactly been pulling blue chips out of Texas recently.

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by Wescott Eberts (GoBR) on Aug 15, 2011 11:41 AM CDT up reply actions  

Exactly

Mario Edwards. We got both Malolm Browns, the RB and the DT, didn’t we.

by DudeAbide on Aug 15, 2011 12:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

You're missing the point

Mario Edwards didn’t choose FSU because FSU can recruit in Texas. He went because he’s a legacy.

by mnHorn on Aug 15, 2011 4:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

WOW!

DudeAbide can’t even spell “Malcom” RB Malcolm Brown says’ “Howdy!” from DKR

by 2th DK on Aug 15, 2011 12:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

As a fan it would be sad to see the Ag's go, but dont let the door hit ya where the good lord split ya!

Its their perogotive to leave, just as the Horns have theirs (LHN).

"Power corrupts. Absolute power is kind of neat."

by MexicanTitanFreak on Aug 15, 2011 10:44 AM CDT reply actions  

Two types of people in this world

the ones who “do it” and the ones who “talk about it”. Ag’s quit talking and go or maybe thats all you can do.

Texas(big 12)-boyfriend who cant do nothing right

A&M-Frustrated girlfriend who keeps threating to leave

After a while it gets old, JUST GO!

"Power corrupts. Absolute power is kind of neat."

by MexicanTitanFreak on Aug 15, 2011 10:49 AM CDT reply actions  

Gilbert sucks

You face a 2nd mediocre season.

Discuss.

by H ouston on Aug 15, 2011 11:05 AM CDT up reply actions  

Aggies would know all about mediocre seasons

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by horns1025 on Aug 15, 2011 11:09 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions   1 recs

So far he does, he hasnt lived up to his potential/hype.

David Ash is really impressing Ive read. I believe Gilbert will be given a couple of starts to prove himself, and then see McCoy put in.

"Power corrupts. Absolute power is kind of neat."

by MexicanTitanFreak on Aug 15, 2011 11:10 AM CDT up reply actions  

Personally I'm Happy With the Uncertainty at QB

Roll the ball out there and let the best guy play.

by DudeAbide on Aug 15, 2011 11:12 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

I wouldn't say I'm happy with it, per se...

But, I couldn’t agree more with this:

Roll the ball out there and let the best guy play.

And if the sonofabitches are gone, then it is goodbye. Good enough. nt-whills

by run Bevo run on Aug 15, 2011 11:46 AM CDT up reply actions  

What is the one tradition which the Ags are preserving?...read to the end of the blurb to find out

Name a conference which would select the Aggies as a new addtion instead of the Longhorns. And then name a conference which would not love to have UT as a member.

Even the SEC currently would pick UT over ATM and would welcome UT in a year or two. Whether UT would want to join the SEC is an entriely different topic.

What the Ags’ moving to the SEC does is free Texas to move to a new conferecne of its choice with its own network which it took this additional 12 months to complete.

It is a lot more difficult for a conferecne to tell UT to terminate its network deal than to not create one once it becomes a conference member. UT’s network can be redesigned if need be to accomodate other schools’ desires in the new conferecne. For example, it can compliment the Big Ten netwrok. All it requires is negotiations.

The Texas legislature cannot tell UT it cannot go to whatever conference it wants to go to once it allows the Ags to leave for the SEC. Similarly UT will not have to take Tech or Baylor with it unless it wants to do so. The Ags are the ‘bad guy’ for destroying the conference and leaving the weaker universities behind.

What will the Ags get by leaving, a more stable conference with a great sports reputation. (I can argue that the money would be greater in the SEC and also in some years and some scenarios outside the SEC for the Ags.) What it also will get, I think, is a mediocre record in football and many other sports.

And that folks is the Aggie tradition which moving to the SEC will preserve!!

Pardon the typos. Where is the splchec?

All new states are infested, more or less, by a class of noisy, second-rate men who are always in favor of rash and extreme measures, but Texas was absolutely overrun by such men. --Sam Houston--

by Tex34xas on Aug 15, 2011 12:00 PM CDT reply actions  

really
UT’s network can be redesigned if need be to accommodate other schools’ desires in the new conference. For example, it can complement the Big Ten network. All it requires is negotiations.

according to everybody here texas does not need a conference and can survive going independent? Why would they want to renegotiate LHN?

don’t worry I corrected your spelling

There's something spiritual about baseball — like Mother Nature," Garrido said. "You don't mess with it. And I think before a player can really believe in it, he has to experience it."

by dmurphnextrusygreer on Aug 15, 2011 12:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think you're substantially overestimating the percentage of people who think we will go independent.

I’m not sure how much the LHN would need to be adjusted, but I’m guessing we could find a conference that would take it in a form close to what it is now.

by Texas Wahoo on Aug 15, 2011 12:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

thanks...you may notice i mssplde 'spellcheck' in my tag line...

that is called an admission of guilt before the commission of the crime…

i think UT will always desire to be in a conference (you probably think that they crave to be in one if for no other reason then to exploit the weak teams and boss schools around)…but to suggest that ‘everybody here’ says ‘blah, blah, blah’ is like a little boy who whines to his momma that everybody has a new bicycle…

bottom line is…winning solves everything…read whills had a great response and the editorial in the Houston Chronicle by a former student

and if you cannot win in the Big 12, Lord help you in the SEC…at least mascots will not have to change when ATM becomes the SEC West’s biiaaatch

Pardon the typos. Where is the splchec?

All new states are infested, more or less, by a class of noisy, second-rate men who are always in favor of rash and extreme measures, but Texas was absolutely overrun by such men. --Sam Houston--

by Tex34xas on Aug 15, 2011 5:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

I for one will miss the Aggie Tradition...

…wherein they have their cheerleaders’ boyfriends sashay down Congress Avenue when they play the Longhorns in Austin.

by DudeAbide on Aug 15, 2011 1:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

Whaddaya mean...

…their cheerleaders are all guys?

by DudeAbide on Aug 15, 2011 1:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

Exactly.

There is not a situation or individual that cannot be improved by the addition of chocolate.

by OnMySignal on Aug 15, 2011 1:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

Does College Station go with them??

I think College Station would be a great fit in MIssissippi.

Hook Em!

by Margaritaking on Aug 15, 2011 1:40 PM CDT reply actions  

No

Nobody wants to dig up all those dead dogs and move them across the country where they might not have a clear view of the scoreboard..

by DudeAbide on Aug 15, 2011 1:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

It all sounds like divorce!

It’s Kramer v Kramer in 2011. Meryl Streep/A&M had no respect, future, do their own thing, bla bla. Who’s the kid? The big 12?? LOL. Right now the Aggies seem to really care about what UT thinks of their move, aaahh true love.
Sorry guys, you move and the games end—-and you’re gonna miss it.

by ogg on Aug 15, 2011 1:55 PM CDT reply actions  

So K State has the stones to start their own network, and Aggie doesn't

Congratulations to K State. I hope your entrepreneurship is rewarded. Link: http://www.kstatesports.com/genrel/081511aaa.html

Long live capitalism.

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by billfromlaketravis on Aug 15, 2011 2:07 PM CDT reply actions   1 recs

Haha

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by billfromlaketravis on Aug 15, 2011 2:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

Good news for K State and Mizzou!!

I hope they are successful. They choose to do their own media platforms. Aggie has chosen to leave. Free will! It’s a wonderful thing.

by Old Horn on Aug 15, 2011 5:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

Assuming Aggies leave..

Given all the hoopla going down in the hearing today about the welfare of all the other schools in Texas.
How screwed are you guys ?
Esp if you add a UH or a SMU to the big XII… you’ll just be adding another dependent.

Like it was made perfectly clear last week with one of your posters. Texas is Texas. Aggies aren’t Texas. Only Texas is Texas.
But that could screw ya. All the little moons will revolve around only you. Good luck going to the PAC next summer when you have Tech, Baylor, and another texas school all sucking from your teat.

by H ouston on Aug 15, 2011 2:25 PM CDT reply actions  

Maybe you should look up the term "precedent"

And if the sonofabitches are gone, then it is goodbye. Good enough. nt-whills

by run Bevo run on Aug 15, 2011 2:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

How can Aggies leaving set a precedent.

Aggies are nothing, for the Longhorn tells us so.
Texas is Texas. Aggies aren’t Texas.
Nothing bad happens to Tech and Baylor when we leave… but Texas.. you’re like the Sun.. if you leave.. I shudder to think of the ramifications for Tech and Baylor.

by H ouston on Aug 15, 2011 2:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

More proof

Don’t argue with idiots. They’ll drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.

And if the sonofabitches are gone, then it is goodbye. Good enough. nt-whills

by run Bevo run on Aug 15, 2011 2:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

So.. you’re now saying Texas isn’t much more important to the welfare of the Big12 than Aggie is ?? That’s certainly what I was led to believe.

by H ouston on Aug 15, 2011 2:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

Beautiful. n/t

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by HazzardousHorns on Aug 15, 2011 5:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yes you’re right Aggie can leave without any penalty or responsibility and all the other in state schools are will be a cross to bear for Texas. A very Aggie centric perspective.

If Aggie can do what they want, and I hope they do, Texas should and will have the same freedom.

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by billfromlaketravis on Aug 15, 2011 2:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

My Secret Theory

Is that aTm is not trying to run away from UT, they simply want to avoid another goal post suppository administered by Texas Tech.

by DudeAbide on Aug 15, 2011 2:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

But Texas is Texas

and they are 1000x more important than A&M. BIG XII doesn’t implode if we leave. We’re nothing, We’re not important.
But Texas… Wow.. There’s a school. They even have their own network. Other schools revolve around them and depend on them for their very livlihood. We all know this is true because they like to constantly remind those school on this very board.

Aggies can leave today cuz Tech and Baylor don’t depend on them.
Texas.. You’re going to get what you want.. Hot shot of a conference where everyone depends on you.. but that’s also going to make it your prison cell.

by H ouston on Aug 15, 2011 2:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

I hope you realize you are coming off as extremely petty.

And doing nothing to dissipate the Aggie stereotype of an inferiority complex.

It’s true that the Big 12 doesn’t necessarily implode if A&M leaves and that it relies less on A&M than Texas and Oklahoma (if you want to dispute this point, we’d love to hear it). This isn’t bragging; that’s just reality. That doesn’t mean that the A&M leaving has no effect on the viability Big 12 or that A&M is completely worthless. Not many people here have said anything of the sort (if any), unless they were just making the typical Aggie joke. The fact that you take it to that extreme just gives ammunition to those inclined to ridicule Aggies for their insecurity.

by TheElusiveShadow on Aug 15, 2011 2:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

Save your breath

Anyone who responds to a warning about arguing with idoits by continuing to argue is just not going to get it.

by DudeAbide on Aug 15, 2011 2:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

perhaps i was laying on the sarcasm a wee bit...

but when Aggie leaves, then Texas is left shouldering the entire weight for the welfare of Tech and Baylor, and potentially UH or SMU.
Just saying… that’s going to make things more difficult for you, when you do wanna split for the PAC or independence, whenever that might be.
If you have something to say about why that wouldn’t be the case, I’d love to hear it.

by H ouston on Aug 15, 2011 2:58 PM CDT reply actions  

Atlas

According to aggie logic (wow, don’t know what to think of that), joining a better conference makes you a better team. Who’s to say UH or SMU doesn’t rise back to a high caliber team they have had in the past? Maybe they learn from aggie mistake or take a page out of Dodd’s book and become a well established athletic program? Carrying some team for a few years that shows promise of rising is fine. It’s an investment. Who thought TCU would be where they are 10 years ago? There is no difference in a UH team flirting with the Top 25 than an a&m team doing the same. Quality opponent, but they don’t whine. There’s not a need to leave the Big XII if we still have quality opponents. I don’t have a problem adding or taking care of either one of those programs. Just because ag shoulders aren’t broad enough to take care of others doesn’t mean Texas shoulders aren’t.

I don't understand "t-sip" as an insult. I like drinking tea, and when is being classy a bad thing?

by TexaStunna on Aug 15, 2011 4:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

See above

re: “precedent.”

Seriously. Look it up.

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by adt2 on Aug 15, 2011 4:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

And another thing:

You (H ouston) and YUMC need to get together and decide which one of you is going to be the designated “moronic poster” here, because I am honestly not sure I can take both of you yammering at once.

Remember that episode of “Alf” when Alf says, “Hey, Willie! Tell me when this gets annoying!” and then proceeds to make this godawful screeching sound? That’s kind of what this feels like; I am Willie. BON is Alf. You and YUMC are the screeching sound.

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by adt2 on Aug 15, 2011 4:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

perhaps Texas realized the error of their ways.

Looks like they’ve called off the dogs.. the hearing for tomorrow has been canceled or postponed.
Not sure what this means really.

by H ouston on Aug 15, 2011 3:10 PM CDT reply actions  

You, sir, have won the interweb today.

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by dimecoverage on Aug 15, 2011 3:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

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