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Is it really possible a true freshman QB starts Sept. 3?

By now everyone has become fully immersed in the QB competition the Texas Longhorn football team is having right now.  Some people have chosen a favorite.  Others are waiting to see how things turn out.  While still others believe the outcome is already preordained.  I myself am waiting to see how things turn out.  But the question that I keep coming back to is it really possible that a true freshman QB could start Sept. 3?  I know people have seen the quotes that are floating around about Ash and how well he is doing.  I won't re-post them but one was from Blake Gideon and the other was from Emmanuel Acho.  Both were highly complimentary of David Ash.  Now comes Jesus Shuttlesworth of Recruitocosm.com and his source, The Asset, with these nuggets:                                                                                                                                                        

We’ll start with, what else, the Quarterbacks. A time honored Texas tradition is rooting for the backup and this report will do nothing to extinguish those flames. The Asset tells us that David Ash had a masterful day today especially in picking apart Manny Diaz’s zone. So much so that when I asked the Asset about the wide receivers, he replied, "they had a quiet day."

 

 

They dropped a lot of balls?

"No. They basically caught everything but they didn’t have to do anything special but turn and catch Ash’s ball delivered in a pinpoint window."

The report was so glowing that I started to think that perhaps the Asset is just an Ash-man, so I asked him if he was biased in his assessment. He simply replied. "No. You’ll see."

The Asset went on to tell us that Ash had some solid work against the zone, had some well timed scrambles for big yards, and was the beneficiary of several zone-read designed runs for solid yardage. He continues to play at a really high level.

 

Once again very complimentary to young Mr. Ash.  But there is one more quote that knocked me back and got me thinking hard that this is a real possibility.  Here is the money quote from The Asset:

 

As for snaps with the first team, David Ash took 50%, Case McCoy had 30%, while Gilbert and Wood had 10% each we’re told.

 

Now this is one source from one website so take it with a grain of salt.  But if this is true, then true freshman QB David Ash is getting the majority of the snaps with the first team in practice.  I never played football, but to me that seems really significant.  Now the Asset doesn't say if this will continue or if this was just a one time thing.  But if it does continue, this tells me that David Ash just might be the starting QB come Sept. 3 vs. Rice.  So I ask again is it really possible that a true freshman QB will start on Sept. 3?

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its possible...

But it seems like it would be safer to let GG play unil he sinks ( or swims), then put Ash in.

If Ash starts, thats a lot of pressure on a freshman to be put into the starting role with a healthy veteran right behind you waiting for you to fail. The first time Ash throws an INT we will be right back to the QB controversy I fear…

by vyvyvy on Aug 18, 2011 2:27 AM CDT reply actions  

snaps

I believe Ash got the majority of snaps on Tuesday as well, so I don’t think its a one time thing. I can’t see Gilbert starting if the snaps continue in this manner. Still two scrimmiges left, so Ash will have to continue to play great to seal the job up. I am sure if Ash plays poorly and GG plays great it will switch back around. I think Ash is on top now because he takes care of the ball and GG doesent, but with so little information who knows what is going on.

by horninraidercountry on Aug 18, 2011 3:20 AM CDT via mobile reply actions  

#1 vs. #2

If you notice, though, JS and the Asset don’t think Ash is getting starter’s snaps. They think Gilbert is the starter and Ash and Case are getting all the snaps in competition for #2. After the scrimmage on Friday, whichever one wins will compete with Gilbert next week for QB1.

by UPB13 on Aug 18, 2011 8:22 AM CDT reply actions  

This really makes the most sense.

Mack may be renewed and taking a few more risks, but I think he’ll play this one safe. Rice will be a real test for all of the QBs.

by TXinDC on Aug 18, 2011 9:11 AM CDT up reply actions  

they need a starter after the scrimmage friday

to start taking all the first team reps and get ready for the game plan against Rice, BYU and UCLA

by Longhorns84 on Aug 18, 2011 4:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

May the best man win

Don’t really care who, as long as it’s based on performance and not seniority. This isn’t the DMV, it’s a football team, and I want whoever gives us the best shot at winning out on the field.
The new system should level the playing field. They all have equal experience in this offense, so whoever comes out of camp with the best grasp of the offense, and makes the fewest mistakes should start.

by Austin_Horn on Aug 18, 2011 9:25 AM CDT reply actions  

Sometimes history repeats

4 years ago, Bryan Harsin had a 4 way battle for QB that included a seasoned veteran and an outstanding freshman and guess who he chose.
Kellen Moore – BSU’s 4th year starter. Harsin’s already getting a lot of rope from Mack in recruiting, offensive scheme, and playcalling, so I think there’s precedence on the OC’s part to go down this road and start the freshman. Count me in the group rooting for Gilbert to find his mojo just because of his grit playing against Alabama, but if Ash is guy then that’s the reality of the situation.
As many have pointed out in other posts, BSU also has the “future starter” play packages so that a promising backup QB can get some reps while throwing a change up at the defense. At the very least, the OC staff is hedging their bets with plans to go either way. Let the best player win.

by LonghorninID on Aug 18, 2011 10:01 AM CDT reply actions  

If the QB was somewhat close

but Ash was a little better i think Mack & staff still starts GG or McCoy because of experience and not to rock the boat too much (yet)

However, if it is obvious that Ash is just head and shoulders better than everyone else, then i wouldn’t be surprised that Ash starts.

I think whichever QB is the leader at the end of the Friday scrimmage then that will be the starter for the Rice game since the staff will probably want to use the last scrimmage to give the starter the most reps as possible.

by jtdoes on Aug 18, 2011 1:11 PM CDT reply actions  

people talk about experience...

How many of our QB’s have experience starting in HarsinWhite’s offense? May the best player play… All of the snaps…

by longhorn35 on Aug 18, 2011 1:29 PM CDT reply actions  

mccoy

we have all heard that case does not have the physical attributes that we look for in a texas QB so can someone please explain to me why he is still being considered in the mix here? really would appreciate a long time poster for an explanation

i agree with the assessment that giving ash the most snaps is probably in order to allow him to separate from the others while letting GG start against Rice. I also agree that if ash outplays GG in the scrimmage AGAIN, i hope mack realizes he has no choice but to yank GG if/when he blows up against BYU.

by nmckenzie1 on Aug 18, 2011 2:21 PM CDT reply actions  

Eryon Barnett slipped up

and said either that Ash would be the starter or, more likely, that Ash was his preference for starter. This has propagated through twitter apparently.

I wish I could play little league now... I'd kick some fuckin' ass.

by drbadass on Aug 18, 2011 2:41 PM CDT reply actions  

For the record...

Barnett is not at practices and is at home recuperating from ACL surgery. He hasn’t seen any two-a-days with Ash.

However, I imagine he’s still in close contact with his teammates and that’s where he’s coming from. Considering the on-the-record statements from Acho and Gideon praising Ash as well as what off-the-record sources are saying, it wouldn’t surprise me if most of the team is behind him. That has little to no bearing on the coaching staff, however.

by bbatsell on Aug 18, 2011 2:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

I feel like the twitter crap has the potential to bring down the team

between that, shelby shipley’s tweets, and all the negative crap spewed on message boards it will be a miracle for GG to show well after everything people dump on him.

I wish I could play little league now... I'd kick some fuckin' ass.

by drbadass on Aug 18, 2011 3:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

it is quite telling however

that there have been ZERO positive tweets or slip-ups or player quotes on GG at all

it’s probably obvious to the team and coaches that GG’s confidence is broken but if it can be repaired and how soon is the big question

by jtdoes on Aug 18, 2011 5:36 PM CDT reply actions  

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