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Texas Football: Separation Scrimmage Friday

Some time Friday evening, most likely at seven o'clock when the temperature on the field at DKR may dip down into the 110-degree range or so, the Texas Longhorns will hold the team's second scrimmage of fall practice. As the 2011 version of the Longhorns enters the third phase of fall practice -- the confidence and perfection phase -- Mack Brown and the rest of the coaching staff are hoping for separation, most especially at the quarterback position.

What we think is that we hope they separate. That's what we've told the players, that they're making decisions by how they play and what their body language [is] based on who plays on our depth chart. Some of them have already separated. It would be stupid of us to give you four positions that are settled when all the rest of them aren't. So what we've told the players is that as soon as you settle it, it's settled.

With only one more scrimmage after Friday and only one more week until the coaches start gameplanning for Rice in the days leading up to the season opener, there are still plenty of question marks surrounding more than just the much-discussed quarterback position.

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Brown believes that 13 players on offense have earned spots on the two deep and 17 players on defense. The coaches want to find 22 players for each of the three phases before the season beings, a tall task. Gameweek is not an optimal time to still be sorting out the depth chart:

We don't care if it's tomorrow. We'd rather it had been last week. We hope its tomorrow night and if it's not, then we'll probably have to go into the third scrimmage to finalize some positions. In a lot of cases we don't care who starts because we're sitting there with two players that maybe aren't great but both of them are good so it really doesn't matter. What you have to do in that case, when you've decided which two will play at that position, is then you have to figure out how much playing time each one gets.

At the quarterback position, the playing time in practice is a scarce commodity with four contestants for the position. Brown indicated that the offensive staff has already begun to give more snaps to certain, though he declined to discuss any favorites.

Based on reports out of practice, it sounds like redshirt freshman Connor Wood trails the other three, making him a serious candidate to transfer, perhaps as soon as before the season. David Ash remains a fan favorite as a blank slate on which to write glowing practice reports, without even the burden of eyeballs dissecting his every pass after receiving minimal reps in the spring game. Garrett Gilbert may be permanently broken. And Case McCoy still has a rag arm. So not much to report there, except that the scrimmage could separate two quarterbacks from the rest. That's what the coaches will want, at least.

Speculation about the other positions still seeking separation has to start on the offensive side of the ball, where the coaches are still looking for eight players to fill out the two deep. Of course, taking out the quarterbacks, that leaves only six, which narrows it down somewhat.

Along the offensive line, Stacy Searels has been mixing and matching to find the best combination, particularly outside at the tackle position. Senior Tray Allen sounds like he has locked down the left tackle position -- a major relief to both fans and coaches alike -- with Mason Walters and Trey Hopkins rotating at right tackle the last several days. Paden Kelley is a viable option at right tackle and Luke Poehlmann was reasonably effective last year in limited reps, but still may not be ready to extensive action. The starting five looks set and it sounds like Trey Hopkins may stick at right tackle, but the key here is developing the depth to survive an injury. Not sure the unit is there yet.

After reports of Fozzy Whittaker performing well through the first week or so of practice, the running back with the most buzz of late is Joe Bergeron, who is giving Cody Johnson serious competition not only as a short-yardage back. Finally healthy, it's also time for Malcolm Brown to translate the one-cut, downhill explosiveness he's flashed in practice into a game-like situation as he looks to separate from Traylon Shead and gain ground on Bergeron for that second spot on the two deep at tailback.

For the wide receivers, Miles Onyegbule continues to emerge, with Darius White in danger of losing playing time if he can't become more consistent with his hands, though his blocking has reportedly been strong. At the split end position, it sounds like Onyegbule, White, and John Harris are in a tight competition.

Blaine Irby and DJ Grant seem to have the tight end position locked down, but there hasn't been much discussion about the H-backs. Getting Barrett Matthews on the move as a blocker and away from blocking defensive ends one-on-one along the line of scrimmage suits his skills and is well overdue, but he still apparently struggles with his hands and Dominique Jones has had virtually no buzz surrounding him for some time, other than rumors about him not being eligible. With Darius Terrell looking for playing time as well, the H-back position might be one that is still a way from achieving separation.

Likewise defensive tackle. Ashton Dorsey still plays high at times, which doesn't suit a potential nose guard particularly well, while the lighter, faster Calvin Howell can't hold up as well against the run. Taylor Bible has lost weight but apparently hasn't flashed as much in practice as Desmond Jackson, who looks like he will make the two deep, while Greg Daniels and Chris Whaley give Texas two former defensive ends working inside. The position is still probably a major source of concern for Manny Diaz, particularly against power-running teams, but it's in much better shape than this time last season. Notice the lack of a mention for Dravannti Johnson.

Meeanwhile, Carrington Byndom and Quandre Diggs look like the starting corners still, with Josh Turner and AJ White backing them up. The safety position might be more up in the air, with Adrian Phillips getting reps there. In fact, the versatility that Phillips brings could make him one of the most important players this year in the entire secondary -- he's already drawing some Earl Thomas comparisons, a compliment of the highest order. What seems apparent is that a Blake Gideon/Nolan Brewster combination would work out as poorly as the Gideon/Scott combo last year -- so one of Phillips or Vaccaro should be on the field with Gideon at all times, turning Brewster solely into Gideon's back up.

Friday's scrimmage won't answer all of the remaining questions, but the coaches are clearly hoping that it at least firms up the two deep, a major necessity with gameweek looming.

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Great stuff

I’m getting psyched. This team is going to be just fine and fun to watch. I can’t wait to see our new offense without GDGD, and quite frankly, I can’t wait to see Manny’s D putting some serious pressure on QBs. Okafor and Jeffcoat are sure to be putting major pressure on QBs which will help the secondary a lot.

College football is about traditions and that means Texas vs.A&M on Thanksgiving day.

by Wrangler86 on Aug 19, 2011 7:39 AM CDT reply actions  

Thanks for the updates GBR

Can’t hardly wait to get this season going. Looking forward to getting 2010 bad taste out of our mouths. One question I have is how the hell does Gideon make the Thorpe watch, if he is a liability in the secondary? You may have already answered this back when you reported it in July. If so, point me in that direction. Always enjoy your reads. Here’s to maybe getting some answers tonight. Hook ’Em!

by Burnedsince61 on Aug 19, 2011 7:46 AM CDT reply actions  

Well played, GoBR

Winning with integrity and "above board" is why Mack Brown is the head football coach for the University of Texas Longhorns. This quote speaks for itself.

I’d rather run a clean program and lose than cheat to win. I don’t think you’re winning if you’re cheating and that’s just the way I feel. I do not want to see my picture on TV or in the paper with a big black box around it talking about me being a cheater.

Im of the opinion the 2nd hand reports we read regarding the QB race tell us the race is tight and will ultimately be a very challenging decision. The flip-flop reporting on a daily basis of who is leading the race between Ash, Gilbert, and McCoy, with Wood outside looking in, suggests a very challenging selection is forthcoming. Coach Brown has consistently stated the decision will be based ultimately on who grades the best. He has also stated that all four quarterbacks have performed admirably in fall camp and this will be a tough choice. The key to the decision will be, "who will give them the best chance at winning." This particular quarterback evaluation is arguably one of the hardest he has ever confronted as a head coach given what is at stake for the immediate future of the program as well as the long term implications for each player vying for the 2-deep spots.

Coach Brown also discussed intangibles in the presser. He is really high on the coordinators in terms of what they are bringing to the table, especially Bryan Harsin. It was relayed on another site that Mack was shocked to learn from a few players last season the offense was just not any fun. It revealed just how far his separation from the players had become and cauterized his focus to rebuild not only the personality of the program but also the philosophy.

With everything that has happened since last December, if this team pulls off double-digit wins it would be hard to argue against Mack Brown garnishing national award mentions.

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by TXStampede on Aug 19, 2011 7:52 AM CDT reply actions  

source for the quote?
“who will give them the best chance at winning.”

See ya later, alligator.

by Paleface Horn on Aug 19, 2011 8:42 AM CDT up reply actions  

Sometimes I think he reads these blogs because I said the same thing yesterday.

Maybe I heard him say it before and just didn’t realize I was plagiarizing him.

See ya later, alligator.

by Paleface Horn on Aug 19, 2011 10:39 AM CDT up reply actions  

I think it is logical to think this way

Better to be logical and clearly articulate the basis for the decision then to act emotional about the choice. There are a lot of variables involved, most of which we have not nary a clue about.

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by TXStampede on Aug 19, 2011 10:41 AM CDT up reply actions  

It seems like Ash is the man

If you take away “true freshman” from his evaluation it would probably be easier to call it now. I think a succesful QB in college is as much mental as anything else and this kid just seems to have the swagger. I watched the interview with Fozzy and he was talking about how Ash would get in people’s faces (the WRs/TEs) if they weren’t in the right place. That is a leader.

He got on campus early and was ready to go so I am not going to worry about the term “freshman” after his name. I’m actually more concerned about GG getting down and out after his first interception.

College football is about traditions and that means Texas vs.A&M on Thanksgiving day.

by Wrangler86 on Aug 19, 2011 8:51 AM CDT up reply actions  

2 examples to support your thought:
I think a succesful QB in college is as much mental as anything else

Major Applewhite
Colt McCoy

See ya later, alligator.

by Paleface Horn on Aug 19, 2011 10:40 AM CDT up reply actions  

I have the utmost respect for a guy like Doug Flutie

He didn’t have the size or talent but that guy was and is a winner and didn’t stop.

College football is about traditions and that means Texas vs.A&M on Thanksgiving day.

by Wrangler86 on Aug 19, 2011 11:00 AM CDT up reply actions  

Another shortie

I saw Chase Daniel enough in HS to know he gas UT as well. Not to mention the guy too short to be recruited by UT, Drew Brees.

by nvrfrgt63 on Aug 19, 2011 4:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

Damn iPad

That would be “has it”.

by nvrfrgt63 on Aug 19, 2011 4:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

Are we deep enough to redshirt Leroy Scott and others at DB?

It would be nice to create some separation in these young guys.

And if the sonofabitches are gone, then it is goodbye. Good enough. nt-whills

by run Bevo run on Aug 19, 2011 8:40 AM CDT reply actions  

Rooting For Tray Allen!

I’ve been watching this fellow for a while now and I am ready to see him explode! Coaches have not given him the chance to show his true potential and it is DUE TIME! He’s is the most underated player and needs him time to SHINE! Also, ready to see someone else take the QB role, has not been working out with Gilbert! Give Ash a chance! Hook Em!

by lhfan4life on Aug 19, 2011 10:06 AM CDT reply actions  

QB Competition

The scrimmage today is obviously a big deal, but I don’t see Texas emerging from the scrimmage with a clear cut starting quarterback. We’ll certainly have some idea on a leader, but I would be surprised if a starting QB was named within the next 3 -5 days.

The Inside Texas guys think the QB battle will go right up to the Rice game, I agree. If Gilbert has a poor night and Ash plays lights out, things could get extremely interesting.

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by billfromlaketravis on Aug 19, 2011 10:29 AM CDT reply actions  

I need another four year starter

I’m a sucker for records. And stats. I know they’re for losers, and I don’t care.

by Tackchevy on Aug 19, 2011 10:30 AM CDT reply actions  

I'd add

That QB is the only starting battle I am really concerned with. Other positions lend themselves to rotations. For instance, we might not have a second DT, but we have a handful of guys that can do different things well.

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by billfromlaketravis on Aug 19, 2011 10:52 AM CDT reply actions  

Rice

Other than a full stadium and a band playing, isn’t Rice just another scrimmage?

"Excuse me while I whip this out."

by FreedomDip on Aug 19, 2011 12:13 PM CDT reply actions  

Sounds like you're taking Rice for granted.

Wasn’t that part of our problem last year?

See ya later, alligator.

by Paleface Horn on Aug 19, 2011 12:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm guessing it'll be a whooping

After last year and the cleaning out of the coaches and bringing in new ones, I’d find it hard to believe Texas won’t go out and try to make a statement against Rice

Now, if the game is close, we could see 2010 revisited … hopefully not

"Excuse me while I whip this out."

by FreedomDip on Aug 19, 2011 12:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

I remember the first sign of last years Longhorn meltdown

It came when the announcers at the Rice game went on and on about how Rice was going to be great in 2010 and wouldn’t have a losing record based on their strong performance during the opener. I remember thinking, how can we be sure Rice has improved as opposed to the Longhorns worsening.
I think we’ll have a good feeling how 2011 will turn out based on the first game. Don’t want to set expectations too high but we need this Rice game to go really well to build up confidence and erase 2010. I really want to see Texas score first and lead after the first quarter.

by renreb1 on Aug 19, 2011 10:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well, the outcome counts into our record, so no.

Whoever said laughter is the best medicine had clearly never tasted Scotch.

by LonghornEm on Aug 19, 2011 12:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hey, Em,

Congrats on passing the bar.

See ya later, alligator.

by Paleface Horn on Aug 19, 2011 12:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

Don't jinx me!!!!!

Took it last month, won’t know till November. But thanks. :-)

Whoever said laughter is the best medicine had clearly never tasted Scotch.

by LonghornEm on Aug 19, 2011 12:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

I knew you were still waiting. I saw the posts a couple of days ago. If you went to a decent law school (which you did) and took a bar review course (which I’m sure you did), you passed.

See ya later, alligator.

by Paleface Horn on Aug 19, 2011 12:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

Thanks

It’s just the uncertainty. I don’t like getting self-congratulatory before I know for sure.

Whoever said laughter is the best medicine had clearly never tasted Scotch.

by LonghornEm on Aug 19, 2011 12:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

Fingers crossed for you

College football is about traditions and that means Texas vs.A&M on Thanksgiving day.

by Wrangler86 on Aug 19, 2011 12:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

not always true

had some buddies fail the CA bar and they went to Stanford. But then again the CA bar is pretty tough

i was told that if you studied the hardest you could and you left the bar thinking you failed then most likely you passed. It worked for me

by jtdoes on Aug 19, 2011 1:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

The law school exams I felt the least confident about

were always the ones I did the best on, and vice versa. I know what you mean. I’m happy I didn’t feel totally confident walking out of there.

Whoever said laughter is the best medicine had clearly never tasted Scotch.

by LonghornEm on Aug 19, 2011 3:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

You dont know how many bars I didn't feel confident walking out of.

And if the sonofabitches are gone, then it is goodbye. Good enough. nt-whills

by run Bevo run on Aug 19, 2011 4:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

If you were still walking out of them, it was not a successful evening

Whoever said laughter is the best medicine had clearly never tasted Scotch.

by LonghornEm on Aug 19, 2011 4:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

Per Wikipedia:

“Overall bar exam pass rates tend to hover between 35% and 55%, and are always the lowest in the United States.”

by burnt40 on Aug 20, 2011 11:38 AM CDT up reply actions  

CA lets people who have graduated from unaccredited law schools sit for the exam

Unlike other states. That accounts for a big part of the difference.

Whoever said laughter is the best medicine had clearly never tasted Scotch.

by LonghornEm on Aug 20, 2011 8:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

well last year it wasn't even really a scrimmage

just more like a run hull portion of practice, there might not have been receivers and dbs on the field. we were trying to show the world our new power running game

Sally, will you meet me at the airport?

by TxHorns247 on Aug 19, 2011 2:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

For me, Rice is everything

Last year at the Rice game, I could tell something was wrong. Dropped interceptions, brain dead run game, starters in until the 4th quarter….

I’ll be looking for those signs this year too

by notsofst on Aug 19, 2011 3:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

QB battle sucks

Not like the old QB battles with Simms-Applewhite, Mock-Young, McCoy-Snead … this round of battle is rather disappointing

"Excuse me while I whip this out."

by FreedomDip on Aug 19, 2011 12:15 PM CDT reply actions  

Nah ...

I’m a Freddie Fender fan who saw that tower on a trip to Padre one spring

"Excuse me while I whip this out."

by FreedomDip on Aug 19, 2011 12:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think we’ll see David Ash get the starting job

formerly "Horns102591"

by horns1025 on Aug 19, 2011 1:48 PM CDT via mobile reply actions  

Maybe

I do think he’ll somehow end up with it down the road.

by ogg on Aug 20, 2011 11:17 AM CDT up reply actions  

BFLT,

I’m not sure they will actually name a starter in 3-5 days. However, I believe that whoever gets the majority of snaps with 1st team starting next week will be our starter. We all know what that means if this week was any indication. Tonight should hold a lot of answers. If Ash and GG both beast tonight, then I think you see them battle through next week. If Ash does ok and GG doesn’t have a good game, I think Ash will see the majority of the snaps next week and be our starter. I also think we’ll see less shuffling on the OL and guys will stay where they will play.

GOBR,

Great article,enjoyed the read. Thank you.

Screw You...We're From Texas

by Hookem Up on Aug 19, 2011 2:49 PM CDT reply actions  

Anyone hear anything about possible separation yet? Would figure BON would be all over this by now….

by EODHorn on Aug 20, 2011 8:18 PM CDT reply actions  

Garret Gilbert

If it is even close the coaches may decide to go with Gilbert because of exp and seniority. For example, Garrett’s confidence grows heading into game 1 and build from there over the first few games, possibly turning into a solid Jr. year for the guy. Maybe a huge year for his Sr year. Case could back him up and Ash could take the redshirt and allow for him to not have to start unitl he is a Soph or a Jr if he is unable to beat out Case in Case’s Sr year after Garrett graduates. For the sake of having a plethora of options down the road I am rooting for Garrett to get his confidence back. Having to turn to a true Freshman wipes out the other 3 talented qb’s on the roster unless Ash tanks and one of them gets the job back. For this reason, the only option where Ash works out THIS Year would be total success and 0 Ash injuries for at least a few years as all our current qb’s will leave and we will not be getting any new 5 star guys in the near term with a newly minted frosh at the reins. Also see Carson Palmers college career- mega recruit out of highschool, nasty fresh and soph years, Norm Chow brought in and Carson end up with solid Jr year, Heisman Sr year and share of national title. I am up late and stil have buzzed but there you have it

by Steven Johnson on Aug 21, 2011 5:49 AM CDT reply actions  

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