How do you call it a network?
by Xerxes on Aug 23, 2011 10:23 AM CDT
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With 2 days to go for the launch of the Longhorn Network, I thought I would look up who was carrying it. Jokes on me, you, Austinites, Texans, sport fans, the NCAA, the Texas Aggies, the BIg 12 and everyone else.
According to the Longhorn network web site, no big pay services are carrying it. Like a tree falling in an empty forest, is it a network if no one can watch it?
The web site has a schedule of shows, for what purpose? no one can watch them. Maybe this is some e-mail scam,
Please MR X our Broadcasting license are being held up by the Nigerian sports federation if you could just send us 5000 dollars US we could purchase licenses to put our network on the TV, we would then make mounds of cash on advertisements with which we can repay you a hundred fold.
Maybe it's some kind of Bernie Madoff type Ponzi Scheme. Put in $10,000 and we will pay you $100,000* in one Year.
Then it could always be the faithful drug money laundering operations for a world wide drug cartel.
The one good thing is the launch is so big it covers the entire US, you will not be able to watch the Longhorn Network any where or at any time you want.
*paid in Longhorn bucks
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These things don't usually get resolved until the 11th hour.
Happens frequently with networks and sports deals.
3/19/2009 & 12/15/2009 - Games Where Dogus Balbay Made a Three-Pointer. Never Forget.
agree with burrito
last minute deals or it shows up on XBOX like ESPN3 or shown by ESPN3 and branded as LHN. 38M XBOX Live users is big enough to be a network.
Sigh...
There is so much beauty because life can be so symmetrical that it gives birth to this almost silent poetry . . . (like) a girl who's terrible at grammar saying, "Mama, you raised me good," and then being pushed down a well . . .
I mean, Christ,
At least Beergut tries to hide (most of) his trolling behind the guise of a legitimate discussion. Exert some effort, man.
There is so much beauty because life can be so symmetrical that it gives birth to this almost silent poetry . . . (like) a girl who's terrible at grammar saying, "Mama, you raised me good," and then being pushed down a well . . .
Not a troll
Check out the Longhorn Network fan page. Tons of fans complaining about no deals being made. People are just impatient and angry, not trolling.
That's unfortunate...
I lived in Welch because I was a chemistry major and did research. I even chose to have my graduation party in there on the giant tables outside of the lecture halls, complete with family and giant pizzas from Slices and Ices (corner of Dean Keeton and Guadalupe).
by ElMariachiLoco on Aug 24, 2011 9:13 AM CDT up reply actions
Anyone else getting tired of these giddy haters?
Dear (Anti-Texas) Persian – you do realize that there are still 76+ hours for these professionals – who negotiate these types of deals regularly – to reach agreements and start flipping on the LHN switches much to the delight of millions of Longhorn fans (new/fresh-faced and old/jaded alike), don’t you? That’s plenty of time…and this thing is going to happen no matter how many near-naked-soldiers you want to throw at it.
I've seen this guy over here before
and every time I see or hear that name now all I can think about is the South Park episode with Mrs. Garrettson defending club Les’ Bos.
Two things will never change...Jesus loves us and UT is awesome.
I heard...
master plan communities in Houston get LHN as well as eastbound international flights on Delta.
Also, my best friend’s sister’s boyfriend’s brother’s girlfriend heard from this guy who knows this kid who’s going with this girl who said that the Red Box outside the 7-11 on the Guadalupe has Season One of LHN on DVD. Sounds pretty serious, better check it out.
Don’t listen to the Troll Patrol Xerxes…you stay vigilant. We need you manning a post on that pay wall…but until H-BevO is free for all, you can get Longhorns Girls Soccer updates here. The Loyola game was a heartbreaker.
Be nobody but yourself in a world that desperately wants you to be like everybody else.
they put on I there,
they shouldn’t tease us, I’m ready to clear my DVR, get some new cushions for the couch, clear the voice mail and the e-mail inbox and the take out menus are handy.
Bring it on I’m ready now
I will be pissed if I miss one minute of LHN's McConaughey Marathon
I think Ghosts of Girlfriends Past is up first, maybe Failure to Launch. Either way, I’m psyched. I celebrate Matt’s entire catalog.
Be nobody but yourself in a world that desperately wants you to be like everybody else.
by 54b on Aug 23, 2011 2:45 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Mandatory rec for Office Space reference
Eight Walls
<> a new MMA blog from Fantake
SECede?........Whoop(s)!!
Wow, how are your little toes, did they get stepped on?
did you all run home to have your mommy kiss your boo boo?
Hey, McCarthies do you see communists oh excuse me trolls everywhere?
Do find any type of criticism intolerable? Are you’ll card carrying members of the Texas inquisition makin sure the faithful don’t step out of line?
I was looking forward to watching the longhorn network but it appears to me to be a whole lota of chicken and so far no steak. It also seems pretty slipshod to shovel all this hype and have nothing to show for it. I expect much more. Maybe all you’lls standards are a trifle low?
I would have gone with "All Hat, No Cattle"
But that’s just me.
I look forward to the end of the Orange Scare.
Be nobody but yourself in a world that desperately wants you to be like everybody else.
I'm sorry
Some of the commenters here are really rude, and can’t handle any criticism of anything involving our Longhorns. Don’t think that these people are the majority.
Your words are your covalent bond...or is it ionic?
Be nobody but yourself in a world that desperately wants you to be like everybody else.
"You'll"
is a contraction of “you” and “will” just to let you know. I think the word you’re (you & are) is “Y’all”.
"Stability is a factor in teams that win the championship. But if you stabilize on a team that's going to end up short of that, then all you're doing is spinning your wheels in the 45-win range."-----Daryl Morey
by fanoflosingteams on Aug 23, 2011 8:01 PM CDT up reply actions
Y'all
Is a contraction combining the words “you” and “all.” The apostrophe replaces the letters: O and U because there is no room in any good Texan’s vocabulary for those two unsightly letters. :-)
There is so much beauty because life can be so symmetrical that it gives birth to this almost silent poetry . . . (like) a girl who's terrible at grammar saying, "Mama, you raised me good," and then being pushed down a well . . .
by lnghrn53 on Aug 23, 2011 8:15 PM CDT up reply actions 9 recs
I put this on another article but I don't think it got noticed as it was at the end and was just curious to see what other people thought
I would think that the problem with the LHN is derived from its mating with ESPN. When talk of the LHN first came up I think everybody was pretty much like "yeah whatever make a channel to show your volleyball games and baseball games and whatever else. No big deal." Then it was announced that ESPN would be the partner I think that’s kind of when everyone else went "oh shit well that’s not the same…" I would tend to look at it like if someone came up to you and went hey I’m going to hold a kickball tournament. Do you want to form a team.? And then after you agreed to it and paid your nonrefundable entrance fee the person told you that their team was sponsered by Gatorade and they were going to help them get all the really good players since the players would obviously be more inclined to be on a team with Gatorade then some team that’s not partnered with Gatorade. You would think twice about still wanting to play in this kickball tournament.
I know that’s probably a poor analogy but it makes sense to me. I think it’s the ESPN thing that’s probably making aTm the most nervous and wanting to get away. Which I can understand and I think that most sensible Texas fans would probably understand it they thought about it objectively. I know it’s easy to go "well were Texas and that’s why we get ESPN partnership and we can do whatever the F we want and if you don’t like it then see ya." But if you’re thinking about the long term stability of a conference that’s just not the right attitude to be had.
And I think independence would be bad for Texas right now as well. As far as football goes of course you’d be able to schedule your NCs that just wanted a paycheck every year but then who else. No team that is consistently trying to earn a BCS bowl is going to want to schedule Texas knowing that up till the game all that’s going to be said on ESPN is how good Texas is and how Texas has the advantage in this game due to such and such reasons and knowing that their kids are going to be watching ESPN and having to hear this. Then on top of that if they lose now they have to hear about it on ESPN all day for the next week. No team is going to want to play the ESPN Longhorns. And on top of that no team (because of how good Texas normally is) is going to want to sign up for a potential loss. Which (most of the time last year withstanding) is what you’d be doing. One of the only reasons Texas now has a full schedule of decent teams to play is because they’re actually in a conference.
I went on a little longer than I wanted and probably have a ton of grammatical and spelling errors but I just wanted to share my point of view and one that wasn’t associated with either Texas of aTm. Hope it makes a little sense to somebody.
Respect your take
but the whole ESPN thing is blown out of proportion. You realize they have deals with just about every other BCS through their conference. It is not in their interest to ostracize them just to pump up one team. I mean look at where everyone at espn is picking us, 5th or 6th in the big 12, behind Baylor (!) and there ain’t much sunshine pumping. Also, even if your conspiracy to pump us had some validity to it, we still have to go out and you know, win games, ESPN does not put you in the NC. I realize they have a very marginal effect on public perception and therefore voting, but like I said very marginal, nowhere near the affect of you know, winning games.
Having said all this, you still may be right about the connection with ESPN being a source of the issue others are having, but when it is one of PERCEPTION of impropriety and not of fact, that’s really not Texas’s fault. As time goes by people will mellow on it.
What being associated with ESPN does that really affects people is that it lends a huge amount of credibility to the channel, which sends a signal that it will be hard to compete with Texas in this context. However you don’t have to, all you have to do is compete on the field, which A&M among others have proven you can do. Increasing our revenue less than 10% is not a catastrophic game changer.
Please End The "All You Have To Do Is Compete On The Field" Nonsense
The whole point is that the LHN makes it harder to compete on the field by making it more difficult to get the players out of Texas that you need to compete on the field. Texas A&M and others proved that you can compete on the field? Yes, before the LHN. A&M is unsure of their ability to compete on the field moving forward, especially when competing on the field was already hard before then.
Put it another way … all Texas Southern, Prairie View A&M, and Sam Houston State have to do is beat Texas on the field, right? It’s just that easy. So why don’t they go out and do it! What’s stopping them? (Of course, that was only SLIGHTLY more absurd than your statement, but hopefully the absurdity helped make the point.)
It is not nonsense
but I get your point. The LHN only increases our revenue very marginally, not enough to be catastrophic when compared to the advantages we already have.
So you must be talking about how it will be a recruiting advantage? We already obtain all the secondary advantages; coverage, location, winning tradition, this is also not going to be changed catastrophically at all. That’s because the main primary recruiting advantage is COACHING and WINNING. Look around now and historically and you will find Haves (which a&m is) teams playing very poorly and Havenots ascending and even staying there because of COACHING and then WINNING.
So why leave when it appears you finally have better COACHING when you have a better chance of WINNING in the Big 12.
I would think you’d at least wait awhile to see how the LHN plays out empirically instead of based on emotional conjecture or at least until the Super Conference Dominos start to fall because you will always be able to get to the SEC when that happens.
Couple of things I didn't quite get when I read your comment
The whole point is that the LHN makes it harder to compete on the field by making it more difficult to get the players out of Texas that you need to compete on the field.
Why, exactly, would Texas A&M need to “get the players out of Texas”? You do realize that the story about Texas A&M University putting its buildings on wheels and relocating them to SEC country was a farce, right??
The other thing – you act as if it is silly to say “Just win on the field”. That’s not silly at all.
In the 1970s, the Miami Hurricanes were pretty much a joke. In the 1980s they won a few national championships and have been a rather consistent winner since. They didn’t have any advantages of entrenched money and established tradition. They gained prominence because they… wait for it… WON ON THE FIELD.
In the 1990s, Boise State and TCU were jokes. TCU had been a national power in the 30’s and 40’s, but had pretty much sucked badly ever since. Boise State, on the other hand, hadn’t ever been much of anything. For the past decade, though, each of those teams has raised its profile by… wait for it again… WINNING ON THE FIELD. Neither of them had any advantage other than that each found a series of great fits for their head coaches and their subordinate coaching staffs.
Each team in college football gets to play only 11 players at a time. It is up to the school to find the right fit of coaches/players/concept, to develop the talent they bring in, and then to beat the opponent on the field.
So, yeah, it is possible for Texas Southern, Prairie View A&M, and Sam Houston State to beat Texas. Just get a better coaching staff, hungry and talented players, and a scheme designed to beat Texas.
I honestly think it has little to do with ESPN
after all any college that wants its own network will have to partner with an established network (mainly ESPN or Fox). If a conference has to partner with one of these, then no way a college could do it alone, even Texas.
by RQ on Aug 23, 2011 3:58 PM CDT up reply actions
Mixed Emotions
I’d love to have TLN up and running on Friday. But then again, I actually have a life right now. My addictive and lackadaisical personality would cling to such programming that the end result would be days without showering, a diet consisting of coffee, salty snacks and frozen dinners and an unhealthy obsession with Samantha Steele.
by Make em' eat Chet! on Aug 23, 2011 3:30 PM CDT reply actions
I see nothing wrong with this
And you will be showering. Unhealthy obsession with Samantha Steele = plenty of cold showers
Eight Walls
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SECede?........Whoop(s)!!
Kind Of Hypocritical Here
On one hand, Texas foes are up in arms about the LHN, claiming that it will be this powerful influential thing that will create an unequal playing field and destroy the Big 12 and ultimately college athletics. On the other hand, Texas foes are gleefully claiming – and hoping – that it will be this huge embarrassing failure for Texas and ESPN. Which is it? It can’t be both at the same time. It reminds me of how a bigot on one hand complains about blacks taking all the jobs from whites, and on the other hand complains about how blacks are all on welfare and won’t work. Both can’t possibly be true at the same time.
Take a stance and stick to it. Either the LHN will eventually be succeed and be very influential, or it will be a flop. Otherwise, you are just being a UT hater. And by the way … if the LHN does flop, Texas will simply join the Pac-12 or the Big 10, and the Big 12 will be dead. So … it actually is in the best interests of the Big 12 and college football for the LHN to succeed. Which is why I – despite not being a Longhorn fan – am rooting for the LHN to succeed.
You like playing in the Big 12?
I certainly wouldn’t mind giving up playing Baylor and ISU for the likes of USC or Michigan. It’s not like we wouldn’t work with OU to keep that rivalry going where ever we go and they’ll likely try to bring OSU along where they go which should be good games for at least the next few years. Tech’s killed itself by firing Leach and A&M is always whining and looking to jump ship.
How would moving to a different conference be a bad thing for us fans?
TEXAS FIGHT
Not A Texas Fan
I just don’t really have anything against the LHN. (I am merely opposed to its affiliation with ESPN. Otherwise, I would have no problem with it. Oh, and there is the fact that Texas fans need to acknowledge that those who cannot replicate the LHN are going to avoid having to compete with it if they can, it is a good business decision if they do, and that is exactly what A&M is doing.)
The Big 10 is not just Michigan, ok? It is also Purdue, Indiana, Minnesota, Northwestern, and a bunch of other programs who aren’t squat in football. By the way … Michigan, Wisconsin, Michigan State and Penn State have 1 BCS bowl victory between them in the last 10 years, and that was over a 9-5 FSU team way back in 2005. Throw in Iowa and you have 2 BCS bowl victories, with the Hawkeyes beating mighty Georgia Tech. So, exclude Ohio State and ACC foes, and you have to go back to Wisconsin beating mighty Stanford and Michigan beating an Alabama team coached by a knucklehead (who cheated and still didn’t win!) in 1999 for the last time the Big 10 won games that mattered. If it weren’t for the Big 10 Network raking in all that cash, everyone would talk about how bad they are. That’s why Nebraska’s joining the Big 10 is so smart … they’ll probably dominate even with Pelini. If you are anything about football success, the Big 12 is a lot better than the Big 10.
The Pac-12 … same deal. See how many big games programs like Arizona, Arizona State, UCLA, Cal, Stanford, Oregon State, Oregon, Washington, and Washington State – basically everybody but USC – has won the past 10 years, or in some cases ever. And now they go and add Colorado, who quit caring about football after McCartney left, and Utah. The Big 12 is light years ahead of the Pac-10 in football, and the only reason why it seems otherwise is because the Pac-10 has had the luxury of avoiding getting hammered by SEC teams in bowl games. In football terms, the SEC is #1, but the Big 12 is definitely #2.
Well... this post sure looks dumb now
According to the Longhorn network web site, no big pay services are carrying it.
Time Warner Cable, bitches.
if it ain't getting to my house it don't exist.
just one more box with a dead cat
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