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I am a first time poster and long time reader.  I finally decided to enter the fray after reading numerous comments about dropping Tech and Baylor since the Aggies are setting the precedent for leaving them behind in search of a better future.  The question, I believe, is more along the line of "should we?" rather than "could we?"

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It seems pretty obvious that A&M setting this precedent by detaching themselves, leaves Texas the option to do the same in the future, but I do not believe we are better off for it.  Many of us, myself included, have vocally chastised the Agroids for abandoning their traditional rivals.  We are no better if we do the same and for multiple reasons:

 

1) Tradition: I am not in favor of ending the series with the Aggies, but since that is a possibility, it would seem that another in-state rival like Tech or Baylor would be the natural fit for that slot.  I would lean to Tech over Baylor when one considers overall fan support, national interest, and intensity of the rivalry.

 

2) Money:  Last year was the perfect example.  Let's face facts; the Longhorn Empire was built on the backs of an extremely fickle fanbase, minus the readers here.  They are not the most reliable support group when the Horns take a bad turn or when they face an unattractive team.  If Texas were to go indy or to the Big 10 without Tech or Baylor, then they're (TT and BU) likelihood of BCS survival and relevance diminishes greatly, leaving them in a greatly weakened state.  Currently, when Tech rolls into Austin, it's a packed house.  If Tech were sentenced to life in the Mountain West, and their performance drops like a rock, how many of our fans would buy tickets for that game?  Yes, we could schedule the Notre Dames, USCs, and LSUs of the world which would sell well, but I'm talking about the lean years like we just experienced when even those games are a tough sell.  If Texas sits at 4-4 and a 2-6 Tech or Baylor squad comes to Austin, we're looking at a half empty stadium for an in-state rival game, which hurts our monetary returns, whereas now those games are big money-makers.  Rival games = money, especially when the rivals are good.  Games against directional Louisiana University = boring and monetary losers.

 

3) Enemy of my Enemy: Yes we hate the Aggies, Red Raiders, Bears, and Sooners and they all hate us.  But they (minus the Agroids now) are our closest allies as well when the times get tough.  Texas and it's posse have done a good job circling the wagons against the overtures of other conferences and preserving each other for our mutual benefit despite the defection mob in College Station.  Missouri, once the catalyst for abandoning the conference is now in the fold and every other team seems committed.  If we move somewhere else or go Indy, we lose those alliances.  Even the Longhorn Empire needs strong and traditional allies/rivals. 

 

It would seem like a wise idea to keep at least one in-state rival with us no matter where we go.  Even if you think your cousin is a complete incompetent, he's still your family.  Mark me down officially as wanting to keep Tech or Baylor with us (one of them at least) no matter where this realignment saga ends for Texas.

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Thanks for reading and for posting.

Definitely agree that one of the sad things about the possibility of major realignment into superconferences is the potential that Texas could lose traditional, in-state rivals. I’m not sure that would be a good thing for college football.

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by Wescott Eberts (GoBR) on Aug 30, 2011 7:13 PM CDT reply actions  

I think the in-state rivalry with Baylor and Tech will suffice for a while

It’d be nice to take a break from aggy, even if it’s only temporary.

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by burntorangehorn on Aug 30, 2011 8:51 PM CDT reply actions  

I think a legitimate rivalry could ultimately end up developing with the Red Raiders

If the series with the Ags is ended. As someone who has lived in the oasis of Lubbock, Texas for the past two years, I can assure you that they hate us with a lot of passion (though not as much as they hate aggy). When on the 40 acres I never realized how much disdain there was, especially considering it was not reciprocated, but my eyes have been opened since moving here.

I think for it to happen several things have to happen though: 1) Aggy has to leave and the series has to end for a long time, 2) Tech has to get back to the level of success under Leach because I don’t see a rivalry forming if they don’t make it competitive, 3) The game would have to move to some specific time slot a la OU weekend or aggy on Thanksgiving just to give the appearance that we consider this a big deal, and 4) Our athletic department would have to pull off some pretty snazzy marketing to get our fan base on board with the premise, because there is obviously no rivalry if there isn’t mutual assent on both sides.

There is so much beauty because life can be so symmetrical that it gives birth to this almost silent poetry . . . (like) a girl who's terrible at grammar saying, "Mama, you raised me good," and then being pushed down a well . . .

by lnghrn53 on Aug 31, 2011 8:27 AM CDT up reply actions  

Tech Rivalry

What are you up in the LBK for? I too attended UT for undergrad and continued my education at Tech for the law degree. Texas is my team for sure, but I do have a soft spot for the Raiders. Also helps that my brother is getting his degree at Tech. That makes the game fun for me. Family and friends went there and I attended for a time. Always a fun game in my opinion.

by Bevo Red on Aug 31, 2011 11:37 AM CDT up reply actions  

3d year law student.

There is so much beauty because life can be so symmetrical that it gives birth to this almost silent poetry . . . (like) a girl who's terrible at grammar saying, "Mama, you raised me good," and then being pushed down a well . . .

by lnghrn53 on Aug 31, 2011 11:46 AM CDT up reply actions  

Good Luck!

The Bar was no picnic but don’t let the stories freak you out. Take as many Casto courses as you can; the ability to surf the internet and simultaneously learn and pass should be taken for granted. Ramirez classes are also very interesting if you like international trade type courses. Kwon was my favorite, but she’s now at Tennessee. Best of luck to you. Don’t hesitate to let me know if you need anything. Always glad to help.

by Bevo Red on Aug 31, 2011 5:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm in International Business Transactions this semester.

I often sit there and wonder, “Why are you yelling at me?” The guy definitely loves him some international business.

I made the big mistake of NOT taking Casto for BE. I (and my GPA) still regret that move.

Thanks for the offer for help. I’ll definitely keep it in mind. I (probably stupidly) keep my email address on my profile. Shoot me an email, so we can be in touch.

There is so much beauty because life can be so symmetrical that it gives birth to this almost silent poetry . . . (like) a girl who's terrible at grammar saying, "Mama, you raised me good," and then being pushed down a well . . .

by lnghrn53 on Aug 31, 2011 10:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

Aren't you forgetting

There’s always Rice

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by FreedomDip on Sep 1, 2011 11:00 AM CDT reply actions  

make Tech the rival

maybe it is just us folks reading this thread, but i am sure with you guys on making TT our new big in state rival. I am an old guy (UT undergrad 69, UT law 1971). My first wife, now deceased went to TT. ALL of her family graduated from TT. I am still close to her family and that game, UT vs TT, is HUGE for all of us. I LOVE TT 364 days a year. But hate them with a passion on that one day. Better than the Aggies that i just don’t much think about or care for at all, on any day.I seriously could care less if we never play A&M again in my life. That is not "holding a grudge " for their leaving, I just don’t think much of them or their campus or their student body. I am seriously happier they are gone than if they had stayed. (I would prefer Colorado back, or BYU coming on board, rather than A&M staying) Best thing about them was their ex head enchilada and our recent Secretary of Defense, Robert Gates.. He was way too good for them, so even he had to get the hell out of College Station

by Longhorn723 on Sep 23, 2011 10:43 AM CDT reply actions  

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