Case McCoy, David Ash Co-Starters, Garrett Gilbert Demoted
by Wescott Eberts (GoBR) on Sep 12, 2011 12:05 PM CDT
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What appeared to be all but official on Saturday night after throwing two interceptions and completing only two of eight passes became official on Monday morning with the release of the UCLA depth chart -- the Garrett Gilbert era is over. Sophomore Case McCoy and freshman David Ash are now listed as the co-starters this week, with Gilbert dropping to third string.
Since McCoy's name comes first on the depth chart, expect him to take the field with the first team when the Longhorn offense trots out onto the Rose Bowl turf on Saturday afternoon in Pasadena, in part because he did enough against BYU to earn that right, and in part because Ash still does not have a full package of plays available to him at this time, something that should change over the coming weeks as he receives more practice reps and Bryan Harsin continues installation of his full offense.
As he did with the release of the first depth chart prior to the Rice game, Mack Brown reiterated on Monday that the depth chart is still fluid at the quarterback position. However, it would probably take massive struggles from both McCoy and Ash and serious improvement without the benefit of many practice repetitions for Gilbert to again see the field at Texas in any significant capacity -- his inability to consistently make good decisions has been extensively proven and those poor decisions now define his Longhorn career, as unfortunate as that is for him as a person and as a competitor.
In other depth chart news, fan favorite Malcolm Brown is now listed as the co-starter with Fozzy Whittaker at running back and looks primed to take over the starting job sooner rather than later, with Whittaker likely becoming the change of pace and third-down back, a move that fits his skill set and injury history. It's clear after strong finishes against both Rice and BYU that Brown is the running back of the future, as the offense operates at a much higher level when he's in the game.
After only being back with the team for a less than week, junior wide receiver Marquise Goodwin is once again a starter, moving ahead of redshirt freshman John Harris and sophomore Darius White. Goodwin is also listed as the starter on kick return, moving ahead of junior DJ Monroe.
The other major change of note is that sophomore defensive tackle Ashton Dorsey, proud owner of the only sack attributed to the Longhorn defense this season, will start next to senior Kheeston Randall at defensive tackle.
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Case Not Closed
It sure looks like to me that Case really doesn’t have enough arm strength to make all the throws the offense requires. Hope I am wrong. So great to have Quise back – Darius White really is not ready to contribute. Love this team – the youth movement is incredibly exciting. I am very patient with these guys, as I love their exuberence.
Change isn't good or bad it just "is". Don Draper of Madmen
Same also has been said about Kellen Moore
So if that is the case Harsin already has proved he can overcome that glitch with great results..
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by Polynikes on Sep 12, 2011 12:39 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Not sure if you are agreeing with me
but our offense now is geared toward smarter throws rather than arm strength, hence Gilbert’s benching.
I'm actually disagreeing with you.
I think with play action being a big part of what Harsin would like to do, we need a QB with at least average arm strength, which I don’t think Case has.
Also, I’m not sure about his decision making either. The 4th down he completed was huge, and the second throw to Shipley was a great throw into a tight window. However, on the first great Shipley catch, there were 3 guys on Shipley. Jax made him look good with the catch, but it was not a good decision.
Just my opinion, however, and I’m sure there are many on this blog who are more knowledgeable who may disagree.
Sure
I get what you’re saying. However, I think this notion that McCoy doesn’t have good arm strength (which isn’t entirely untrue, he sure doesn’t have a rocket) has to do with poor mechanics. That has to do with not getting enough first team reps (or reps in general). With solid footwork you can get a lot out of a noodle arm.
That first ball to Ship was a tight TIGHT window and the ball itself had incredible zip on it. Not sure what you see there. As long as he gets the ball there I don’t see the issue. We aren’t talking about the window being closed. Good QBs have to make those throws.
Agree to disagree ;)
Actually, now that he is running West Coast,
Colt is in the perfect offense for a QB with his skill set.
Heart, leadership and the will to win very often surpass "talent".
If a man is alone in the woods and he speaks, if no one hears him,,is he still wrong?
I haven't seen this to be true, yet.
Case really doesn’t have enough arm strength to make all the throws the offense requires
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by run Bevo run on Sep 12, 2011 12:40 PM CDT up reply actions
ugh
first of all, you shouldnt be allowed to comment anymore after that classless and distasteful stuff you pulled on the thread this morning.
second of all, did you watch the spring game? Case cant throw the deep ball. It comes out like a duck.
I think your post contains two overreactions.
by Texas Wahoo on Sep 12, 2011 1:24 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
disagree
his behavior in the other thread was disgusting.
and secondly, all evidence we have to this point, which includes the snaps from the spring game and the myriad of practice reports, says that Case struggles to consistently make throws on anything further than intermediate routes.
I suppose everyone is entitled to their opinion.
Perhaps “all evidence we have at this point” suggests he struggles at anything further tahn intermediate routes. But I think the point is that we don’t have much evidence at this point. He’s played meaningful snaps in one game so far, and did not really try any long throws.
2nd, here is what i could find of the spring game. Case threw the ball just fine.
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by run Bevo run on Sep 12, 2011 1:40 PM CDT up reply actions
smh
yeah, he had good throws on all the short and intermediate routes. but he woefully underthrew Darius White on the deep route and was fortunate to have White come back to make the catch.
All reviews of spring game consistently noted that Case showed poor footwork and mechanics, and lack of the physical tools to make the deeper throws. This isnt from some random internet fan either.
http://www.burntorangenation.com/2011/4/3/2089355/texas-football-spring-game-orange-white
was fortunate to have White come back to make the catch
Too bad that Darius White did not show up on Saturday.
So
He had one bad throw in spring and you are not willing to see what he can do now? Why does Case have to prove he can make the throws and the other two have to prove they can’t?
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by run Bevo run on Sep 12, 2011 1:55 PM CDT up reply actions
sigh
because it has been well documented by numerous sources that physical tools are a question for Case. The same has not been said for Gilbert or Ash. In fact, the questions around Gilbert were never around whether he had the physical ability to make the appropriate throws. They were around whether he had the ability to read the defense to determine which throw was appropriate to make. Gilbert had consistently demonstrated in high school and practice and in his first two years here that he had the capability to make all appropriate throws, including the deep routes. Case has not demonstrated that, in practice or otherwise.
This really shouldnt be a difficult concept to grasp. Yes, Case probably is more mentally prepared to be the QB and will likely be a more efficient game manager and will likely demonstrate a better ability to read defenses. But lets not pretend like he has the same physical abilities as Gilbert just because he hasnt been given the opportunity to make those throws in a game.
Disagree
I think there are serious questions as to Gilbert’s ability to make various throws with accuracy. Not all of his interceptions and incompletions were caused by making the improper read.
I would agree when you look at the last 2 years
How much of that was a result of poor coaching and poor play calling? who knows. But I think he has demonstrated more often than not that he has the physical tools to deliver the ball to all fields.
When you look at both INTs against BYU, they were both a result of poor reads on his part, not poor accuracy.
With the exception of throwing the ball at the feet of everyone 5 yards away.
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by run Bevo run on Sep 12, 2011 2:12 PM CDT up reply actions
Those two
go hand in hand a LOT of the time.
McCoy’s arm strength will greatly improve with proper mechanics, something he doesn’t show on a consistent enough basis.
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Shake Weight?
There is so much beauty because life can be so symmetrical that it gives birth to this almost silent poetry . . . (like) a girl who's terrible at grammar saying, "Mama, you raised me good," and then being pushed down a well . . .
I think I just peed my pants
A little bit.
Le Sigh
Guess who else had poor footwork, Brett Favre.
Gilbert’s awesome technique got him 10 tds and 17 picks and got us a 5-7 record.
Case McCoy’s poor footwork got us a comeback win. Why would it be so bad to see if he can put it together for 4 quarters?
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by run Bevo run on Sep 12, 2011 2:09 PM CDT up reply actions
im not sure where you keep getting the idea that im advocating against McCoy as the starter
Im all for giving him a shot. But the idea that he’s the next Applewhite or the next Brett Farve because he has heart and doesnt have all the best physical tools is silly.
Case McCoy is not a long term solution at QB. Will he suffice for this year? Perhaps. But he’s not a miracle worker. And the offense is more limited with him at the helm.
well..
im not sure where you keep getting the idea that im advocating against McCoy as the starter
Case McCoy is not a long term solution at QB
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by run Bevo run on Sep 12, 2011 2:16 PM CDT up reply actions
im not sure where the issue is here.
im ok with him starting for the rest of this year, because, at the moment, we dont have a lot of other options. Ash is clearly not prepared yet. So Im fine with letting McCoy take the reins. We’re not going to win a MNC this year one way or another, and will be hard pressed just to get to 8 wins. Id be extremely disappointed if Ash isnt given more and more responsibility as the season goes on though.
If McCoy is the starter next year, Im severely disappointed.
That is all your opinion...
and you’re certainly entitled to it.
But you’re acting as if it is fact that has been passed down by the gods.
no. im not.
im presenting the evidence that im basing my opinion on. and all the evidence i have seen and heard, and that has been presented to this point leads any reasonable person to believe that Case is lacking in the physical tools that are necessary to be a successful QB.
ive never said “this is fact, you cant disagree with it”. Youre free to disagree.
You're basing
your opinion on the evidence that YOU have seen. You are unable to see things from people who have opinions based on other evidence.
favre?
Guy had a cannon. He could throw 50yds on his knees. Ridiculous comparison. It is simple, to date Case hasn’t shown the arm that is needed in this offense. Note the Rice game. Case is said not to be able to make the long throws Gilbert made. We will find out, because you can bet someone will take away the underneath stuff and dare Case to beat them deep. Colt has a below average NFL arm, but that doesn’t mean he has a below average college arm. People are saying Case has a below average college arm. I will wait to see it. Up to now I saw the one duck in spring game, not enough for me to give a definitive opinion on it.
by codaxx on Sep 12, 2011 5:56 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Also, with all due respect to PB and Stampede
I can evaluate what i see for myself. They have as much credibility as everyone else on this site when it comes to evaluating the spring game. Despite poor footwork and mechanics he was 9 for 11 in the spring game.
I don’t see how it’s so damning that he get a shot to start.
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by run Bevo run on Sep 12, 2011 1:59 PM CDT up reply actions
this has nothing to do with him starting
im all for giving him a chance to start. but lets call him what he is. he’s the least physically talented of the 3 QBs. I wouldnt trust him to throw a deep post pattern or a fade route against a good defense, and im fairly certain Harsin wont either. that will limit our offense. Whether that turns out to be better for us than having a QB who cant make the appropriate reads but can make the throws remains to be seen.
That's why Ash is in the mix.
I suspect that harsin will play to the best skills of the two QBs. So, some of these problems won’t come up in the next couple of weeks.
Of course, against OU and possible OSU, different problems could emerge. But everyone on the staff – and here- will have reassessed with two more games.
Hey
Remember this kid, I think his name was Colt and everyone seemed to say that he didn’t have arm strength and it limited the offense? Huh, I seem to remember him doing pretty well, even being stuck with GD as his O coordinator.
Big deal if he can’t hit a 40 yard pass. He doesn’t have to throw the ball 40 yards to get a 40+ yard gain on a pass.
Plus as whillis said above me, that’s what Ash helps bring to the team.
TEXAS FIGHT
No comparison
Colt always had a stronger arm than Case. And his body was more suited to put on good weight than Case.
first of all, you shouldnt be allowed to comment anymore
This forum is getting tough. You say something that someone disagrees with and everyone jumps your a**. Relax folks. This is a forum for fans. If we can put up with visits from Beergut and fans from ou, we should be able to be respectful of other Longhorn fans here.
I was called out on another thread for being too positive. sheesh.
3rd Degree Longhorn
in all fairness, you probably missed RBR's post on the morning thread
It was deleted because it was so distasteful and comments were closed as a result.
if it was just educated discourse, id have no problem with it. he crossed a line though.
Look there. I choose to work all morning and ignore the blog ...
… and, as a result, I miss out on all kinds of fun banter.
You're overreacting
Stop, breathe, calm down. You’re on the internet. People are going to say things you don’t like here.
TEXAS FIGHT
Trust me...
…rBr went way over the line in a comment that was immediately deleted. 6th street’s comments on this thread seem out of place without that context.
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by Hopkins Horn on Sep 12, 2011 7:39 PM CDT up reply actions
My comment was fine
Whills said exactly what i was saying, “We can moralize about crowd behavior, which is silly imho”. 6th street was grasping at straws to draw a parallel. My point was to GRAPHICALLY show his stance was absurd. If you play the racism card, you better be prepared to fully understand the depth of the problem.
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by run Bevo run on Sep 12, 2011 7:52 PM CDT up reply actions
I was in the wrong
6th street was trying to make booing a moral issue, I graphically represented I disagreed with shocking images. I was in the wrong.
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by run Bevo run on Sep 12, 2011 2:04 PM CDT up reply actions
Thank you
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by Hopkins Horn on Sep 12, 2011 7:39 PM CDT up reply actions
No
You were called out on another thread for calling my post worthless. There is a difference, and it’s not a very complicated one. Stop playing the maligned victim for insulting somebody, it’s an act that has grown tiresome.
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by GoHornsGo90 on Sep 12, 2011 3:25 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I was very impressed with Case's second 3rd down conversion throw to Shipley
Ship’s running a route in between a BYU linebacker and BYU safety and Case ripped the ball in there where only Ship could make a play on it.
The ball had some zip on it and the timing was perfect.
If he can make that throw, he’s got all the arm Colt did. And Colt is starting on Sundays.
"Case not closed"
How has no one said “I see what you did there” with some sort of cute gif or pic to go along with it?
"The only sport that should be cried over is tee ball."
- don't remember who said it, but I like it.
Everybody seems a bit on edge
I can’t imagine what the thread would have looked like if we lost the game on Saturday.
It Ain't Easy, But It's Worth It.
Seriously, we had more fun on this site when we were losing at home last year.
"The only sport that should be cried over is tee ball."
- don't remember who said it, but I like it.
What happened to Bergeron?
After hearing such high praise for him, it seems like he’s barely been on the field.
Its just a crowded backfield.
He is kind of a mix between MB and CJ, so I’m just not sure there is much of a role for him in the crowded backfield right now. I see him taking over short yardage/fullback duties in the future with hopefully an expanded role as a receiver out of the backfield.
Seems to me Bergeron was kind of a victim
of our “no offense” first half. We barely had the ball enough for anybody to get carries. Mack Brown said in his news conference that Cody was used more as a ball carrier Saturday, and that ate into Bergeron’s opportunities.
How good is Goodwin in the run game?
I didn’t get a chance to watch the replay of the game yet, but that was something I was very pleased with so far: the improvement our WR’s have made blocking in the run game. Goodwin seems like a high effort guy regardless, so I don’t see him performing poorly due to a lack of effort.
Goodwin's blocking is solid
He always plays his ass off and is a very willing blocker. He doesn’t have the frame for it that Harris and White do, but he’s scrappy and doesn’t give up.
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by GoHornsGo90 on Sep 12, 2011 12:49 PM CDT up reply actions
Agreed.
However, I wonder how he could possibly have learned enough of the offense to take over starting after one week back. Either the offense is simple as far as the receivers roles are concerned, he is just super bright, our other receivers not named Davis and Shipley are struggling that much, or this is an example of seniority holding sway. Or some other explanation I can’t think of.
I was also impressed with DJ Monroe driving for extra yards against a bigger BYU defender. Bennie Wylie influence?
"The only sport that should be cried over is tee ball."
- don't remember who said it, but I like it.
Has to be
That Harris and White are really struggling and the coaches are trying to send a message.
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Figured that was the most likely explanation.
Those guys got good reviews during camp, but seem to be lacking against secondaries other than our own. That makes me a sad panda.
"The only sport that should be cried over is tee ball."
- don't remember who said it, but I like it.
Nice! Thanks
"The only sport that should be cried over is tee ball."
- don't remember who said it, but I like it.
Maybe...
Mac may have made him a promise of starting and more playing time to get him on the team. Who would not want someone as fast as him for kick returns. He can be a game changer.
Plus for all we know he could very well be that smart. Route running and blocking is not all that hard and or different in different packages.
The other consideration...
He’s had the play book since Spring and could study and assimilate the offense…he probably has grasped the over-all and the terminology. So they prep him on what they’ve selected and he can execute that…he probably doesn’t know the whole play book from a muscle-memory standpoint, but we don’t need that just yet.
Was he there in the spring?
I thought he was gone. He should certainly be behind White and Harris from a playbook standpoint. Pretty tough to execute any plays that you haven’t even run through in practice, but IDK how much he was able to be involved in the spring.
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I didn't mean he was at practice...just had the playbook
plus whatever video they had…not the on-field instruction.
My point was he isn’t or wasn’t a blank slate. He’s played football half his life…it’s not like he started yesterday.
All he has to do
is learn his role, not the entire offense. Not to mention teaching can be done by Applewhite in game when the D is on the field. As far as blocking goes he only has to learn basic blocking schemes, a lot of which he probably already knows. All he has to do is engage and get in the way for a bit. Especially considering we are a more “north to south” running team.
I'm excited for him and love what he brings as a deep threat and as a willing and able blocker in the running game.
Just wondered what else might be implicit in him getting the starting nod so soon.
"The only sport that should be cried over is tee ball."
- don't remember who said it, but I like it.
Yeah
I totally agree. I also agree that part is the fact that Harris and White (who fumbled once I believe) have done absolutely nothing.
Harris trown more touchdown passes
Than McCoy and Ash combined.
Yeah
that was nice and all but I’m referring to him catching a pass. So far Harris has 2 for 13 this season and White has 3 for 28.
So serious
"The only sport that should be cried over is tee ball."
- don't remember who said it, but I like it.
not so much a matter of tone.
More so that you either have to recognize that DudeAbide was joking by commenting on the TD pass count of a receiver who threw one pass in the context of a discussion regarding receivers earning a starting job, or you seem to be concluding that DudeAbide is an idiot or crazy. I guess you haven’t been around long enough to know that DudeAbide is neither of those two things. Well, at least not the former.
"The only sport that should be cried over is tee ball."
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by HookTech on Sep 12, 2011 3:25 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
I thought Harris had a pretty good start to the season, but these eyes are of the untrained variety,
plus I haven’t had a chance to watch either game depth. Hope to get some good DVR time in tonight.
"The only sport that should be cried over is tee ball."
- don't remember who said it, but I like it.
Has to be
That Harris and White are really struggling and the coaches are trying to send a message.
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Regardless, Goodwin came in and made two pretty good plays that I saw
One where the blocking was there, another where it wasn’t. Its just helpful to have a starting WR who is a playmaker.
Harris will get there hopefully. Disappointed with White but he is a good athlete so he should either start working his tail off on special teams or change positions.
by Erasmus Funderburke on Sep 12, 2011 2:51 PM CDT up reply actions
I wish GG the best..
he just doesn’t have what it takes to succeed at this level. From all accounts he is a great kid, sad to see it end like this for him. I have a strange confidence in Case, it’s not always pretty but he seems to get the job done.
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GG has not transferred or quit right?
Hang in there GG and keep working on getting better—your number may be called again.
Reporter: What would you say a Greg Studrawa offense is like? Stud:
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GET TO THE RIM HEAT (and SKY)! ATTACK THE PAINT!
I doubt that very seriously
GG has been given (emphasis on given) every chance to be the starting QB and he hasn’t taken advantage of either one of them. He was basically handed the job this year and he failed. He failed horribly last year. What more do you need to see form him? The GG era at the University of Texas is over.
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Just saying' that know one knows the future and he is still on the team...
he should keep his head up, try to improve and prepare like he will play again.
Reporter: What would you say a Greg Studrawa offense is like? Stud:
"Attack and be very physical…fly around…attacking, come after you and come after you and come after you…." Me: I love this answer.
GET TO THE RIM HEAT (and SKY)! ATTACK THE PAINT!
*no one knows....
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"Attack and be very physical…fly around…attacking, come after you and come after you and come after you…." Me: I love this answer.
GET TO THE RIM HEAT (and SKY)! ATTACK THE PAINT!
Totally agree with that sentiment..
But I think it’s time to move on completely to the young QBs and let them take their lumps in preparation for the future of the program.
"Knowledge is knowing that a tomato is a fruit, wisdom is knowing not to put it in a fruit salad" - Unknown
Be careful what you wish for.
“…and let them take their lumps…”
I’m all for that … if it doesn’t include team losses. They coaches won’t accept that either.
Im pretty sure we are not going undefeated this year.
And that was going to be true regardless of who our QB is. IMHO GG has proved that he isn’t the QB for now or for the future. We are forced to move on at the position and I’m sure it will be rocky.
"Knowledge is knowing that a tomato is a fruit, wisdom is knowing not to put it in a fruit salad" - Unknown
"Yeah, but we don't like to do "rocky" at Texas, big boy." (Mack Brown near-quote)
“Im pretty sure we are not going undefeated this year.”
Dude, we’re still undefeated. Have some hope! Only 10 more to go. Shock the Nation redux!
Back in 1990
The ’Horns went 10-1, I believe, until they were throttled by Miami in the Cotton Bowl. It was supposed to be a very bad year for them but it turned out to be an amazing year – taking on the “Shock the Nation” mantra. Nobody expects much from them this year.
Case
He must really be a poor practice player. That’s the only explanation I can think of for his lack of snaps in meaningful game situations. With that said, I have yet to see a throw in the new offense that Case couldn’t make. If he can’t throw it 60 yards to Mike Davis I guess he can throw it to the other routes, right?
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But can you tell me how to get a BIG Horn? I want the Big 10, so it could be BIG and then the longhorn logo..
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Try this out
It’s not the greatest but, it’ll work.
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by run Bevo run on Sep 12, 2011 1:19 PM CDT up reply actions
Won't fit.
I’ve learned after trying multiple times that if the avatar isn’t square, it doesn’t get re-sized correctly, and the edges get cut off.
There is so much beauty because life can be so symmetrical that it gives birth to this almost silent poetry . . . (like) a girl who's terrible at grammar saying, "Mama, you raised me good," and then being pushed down a well . . .
Squares, don't get me started on squares.
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by run Bevo run on Sep 12, 2011 1:45 PM CDT up reply actions
53 was right
Try this one instead.
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by run Bevo run on Sep 12, 2011 1:52 PM CDT up reply actions
could be that....
Case just hasn’t gotten enough snaps in practice with the ones to develop good practice show… i could really care less about how great a player practices if he comes out on game day and hte "It " factor takes over and we win…
Every throw I've seen Case make outside of the BYU game has been a lame duck
I’ve almost seen him nail the turf as much as he connects.
That being said, his performance in the BYU game was awesome. Maybe he just thrives under pressure?
We’ll see Saturday.
That's an overstatement
and overdone, IMO. Let the coaches coach. We probably take the long bomb to Davis out of the playbook with Case in the game. He can probably make all the other throws. If defenses start to stack up in the box, we can always put in Ash or Gilbert for a series.
by Erasmus Funderburke on Sep 12, 2011 2:53 PM CDT up reply actions
I agree...
Since when do we base a QB’s skillset on how well he throws the long bomb? The most inefficient pass to throw in the game… I’ll take a QB that can complete 70% of the 10-20 yard pass plays to our own players all day long… KNowing that every now and then we will have a guy flying through coverage and we can at least be servicable to throw a 30 yard pass…
No, I've seen Case throw balls into the turf 10 yards out
You should have seen one in the Rice game when he tried to connect to Shipley, he’s done the same in the practices I’ve seen.
I can only judge off of what I’ve seen, and like I said, his BYU performance was by far the best throwing I’ve ever seen from him.
seriously?
they’re not going to give him a chance to run the plays where they know he cant make those throws, so obviously youre not going to see him throwing deep fades or post routes in a game “in the new offense”.
and thats the problem. If the defense knows that they dont have to worry about anything going over the top, then the safeties can creep in and clamp down on the short routes. makes things significantly more difficult.
I think
that not having made any of those throws on Saturday was a product of not getting enough first team snaps rather than him not having the arm strength.
ill respectfully disagree
every report and review of McCoy has stated otherwise. I guess we’ll see in the next couple weeks. If he comes out slinging it down the field with accuracy, ill eat my words.
What's the harm in giving him a shot?
Is it so harmful to see what he can or can’t do, than guess what he can or can’t do from practice reports?
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by run Bevo run on Sep 12, 2011 2:02 PM CDT up reply actions
Confidence Can Overcome A Rag Arm
And Case seems to have a lot of confidence right now. Give him the ball in Cali and see how it goes.
Evidently, that's what the new plan is.
I, personally, think he’ll do great.
Confidence
and the best coaching in the nation. Like I’ve said before: getting 1st team reps and actual starting QB attention will improve his mechanics. Improved mechanics can lead to a better arm.
But I definitely agree with the confidence thing.
This issue of arm strength you keep bringing up is overstated.
At an amateur level, requisite skill set, in order, is mental (reads, routes, drops, etc.), accuracy, and arm strength. And really, a big arm is a bonus in college. Rare are the instances where we will be limited by Case’s arm strength.
We’re not constantly seeing Cover 2 looks against elite corners/safeties where we need to thread the needle between the two on a go or flag. Nor are we consistently throwing 12 yard outs against shutdown corners.
More likely, plays are going to include short-intermediate concepts consisting of stick plays, and high low reads such as slant-flat combos. Even in running plays like verticals, it’s more about identifying the defender you’re binding, and delivering the ball to the other receiver. In those situations, arm strength is a bonus, but safety identification/manipulation and accuracy is easily more important.
I’m digressing a bit here, but here’s the main point: Given the option of a savvy QB with less than desireable arm strength in Case versus a better arm/athlete with less of a grip on the offense in David Ash, I’ll take Case every time. The comparisons here are eerily similar to McCoy vs. Snead 5 years ago.
Glad that the changes have occurred, they needed to!
realMccoy, I agree that Case doesn’t have the strongest arm, but at least they will have a less likely chance to being caught by the other team. Maybe they hit the ground instead. Bergeron does appear to be the odd man out but he will take over for Cody next year and I feel should play a bit of full back and get some passes thrown his way.
Goodwin needs to work on blocking for sure, also route running. But DWhite just didn’t create any separation.
Case looked like the best - have to agree
but Ash needs to pass – all he did was run, UCLA saw that. Wish GG the best, dont know what the cure is, pressure was immense, glad it’s over for all. McCoy to Shipley lives!
Change is good
Just the fact that these adjustments and changes are being made makes me oh-so-happy.
I don’t have a dog in the QB fight. Yes, I have an opinion. But frankly, I don’t care if the coaches agree with my alleged wisdom or not.
What does matter to me is that:
- seniority doesn’t matter as much as results
- players are being expected to perform NOW, and not at some unspecified future date
- youth is not being seen as a liability
These three elements are the absolute opposite of the horizontal offense of the last few years.
Big smiles all around.
Watch out, I bite.
by EddieTheAlbinoSquirrel on Sep 12, 2011 12:53 PM CDT reply actions
So excited that the coaches
Are willing to already make Malcolm co-starter. This demonstrates a willingness to completely move forward with youth and the comprehension that it’s not worth playing upperclassmen early if it means yet another slow start.
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Darius White
Very disappointed with his play too. Ross Apo looked a lot better than Darius. Darius needs to quit being so shy and start going after it and making the catches.
Dan Buckner had a good game the other night for Arizona too.
A&M: Ready,Set, Go.....
Wouldn't mind
If our first play of the UCLA game was a screen to White just to try to get his confidence up. He’s great with the ball in his hands and we need him this year. Marquise is steady, but White and Harris is where the upside and future lies.
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It's gonna be a screen to the bench, then
because DW is about third behind Goodwin and Harris at this point. He needs to get his confidence up by having a strong week on the practice field. Do that, and his game chances will come.
and ou still sucks
If a man is alone in the woods and he speaks, if no one hears him,,is he still wrong?
by OnMySignal on Sep 12, 2011 1:41 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
its a long season
i’m happy with the changes but i wouldn’t be too shocked to see GG back in the rotation somehow… excluding all of GG’s inabilities…it’s generally accepted that he throws the best deep ball of the group and Harsin knows it. So either Case has to show he can do this or they have to cut Ash loose and allow him to throw deep.. I’m hoping the latter happens
I agree, I think GG may be used as a passing situation guy;
but I think it will be very difficult for him to regain the starting role unless
Ash and McCoy both get hurt; or he has a football epiphany that shows he can
consistently take the offense down the field and score. Given his performance in the 15 games he has played, I don’t see an epiphany his future.
Great players make great coaches, but great coaches make champions." DKR circa 1964
Probably not the starting role
But since we’ve been dealing with the Ash “Package”, it’s not inconceivable that GG would have a set of 10 or so running plays that work off of a simple read and a deep threat.
that would be good
Great players make great coaches, but great coaches make champions." DKR circa 1964
yea...
to clarify, i was only referring to GG as maybe getting back into the rotation with on different situations not as a starter. That ship has just sailed.
Although, i think once the coaches allow Ash to throw, i think he will throw a good enough deep ball to supplant GG in this role as well.
either way, GG is a great kid on and off the field and is a Longhorn so i have nuthin but love and respect for the kid. sometimes it just doesn’t work out that’s all but we should all support him for sure
Good overview, Big Roy
I do take issue with “Gilbert Era over.” That’s the knee-jerk reaction a lot of us have. It’s what I thought when the third quarter rolled around Saturday and Gilbert was a spectator. Maybe it is over, and if the other QBs can hold onto what they’ve earned, I’m fine with it.
But Gilbert may just be where he needs to be . . . in the background, with the pressure off, and with a chance to work on some mechanical skills. He has a chance to learn and retool his game. Maybe I’m alone, but I’ll be rooting for him to get another chance.
by edsp on Sep 12, 2011 1:27 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Yeah, there's no guarantee that Case and/or Ash can hold onto the job
They both looked promising Saturday, but one game is a small sample.
Totally agree with taking issue with the statement.
“…the Garrett Gilbert Era is over.”
WAY too early and WAY too reactionary. Sounds more like HOPE. Until one of these kids separates themselves from the pack, GG will still be in the mix. Case, although limited, has some moxie and Ash certainly showed that he has a ways yet to go. But something the coaches saw about the other 2, up to this point, kept Gilbert starting. Let’s see how the young’uns do when ALL the pressure is on them and the D’s game plan is directed at them.
I dont think its too early to make that statement
GG is a Junior, If he were a Frosh or Soph maybe things would be viewed differently. He’s been on campus three years and he has failed to distinguish himself.
"Knowledge is knowing that a tomato is a fruit, wisdom is knowing not to put it in a fruit salad" - Unknown
Uh, good AND bad, he has DEFINITELY distinguished himself.
Surely we can agree on that? I’m perfectly fine with a new starter, especially after the Moxie that McCoy showed vs. BYU (he’s been my favorite anyway), but let’s not all act like nuts and declare that someone’s era is over. Last I heard, GG was still on the roster and he still has a rifle-arm, a lot of talent, and a new offensive system he’s learning. ALL of these QBs have issues & NONE have separated themselves. The coaches’ naming Gilbert the starter had A) a lot to do with his abilities and B) a lot to do with the shortcomings of McCoy, Wood, & Ash. Instead of saying his era is over, how ‘bout we all just say – "Hey, we’ve got 3 talented QBs on the roster. Let’s watch the coaches use ‘em all situationally towards winning games." And, I know the ol’ QB-controversy adage, “When you have 2 starting QBs, you really have none.” Well, that’s fine & dandy, but the fact is that we have the ability to use ALL 3 guys, watch the situation play out, & see if someone rises up. I just think it’s too early to throw GG in the dumpster. It’s about the team winning games, not condemning someone off the team when he still has value.
I agree
I think we’ll see GG under center for Texas again this year.
The Gilbert Package
Sends Davis on a deep post then hands off to Malcolm Brown.
If McCoy or Ash is starting against the sooners ...
… we’re gonna find out real quick how able they are to run the show. I don’t think I’m worried about any other team on the schedule, at least where the QB play is concerned. That game puts a strain on the sphinctor muscles of even the best QBs. Maybe Case will bring back shades of 45-35.
Well, it turned out okay last Saturday.
They got the win, albeit, not the way anyone expected. And each QB got lots of snaps.
Garrett isn't quitting...
…and he’s still a Longhorn. Let’s not quit on him.
by BeeCaveHornFan on Sep 12, 2011 7:38 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
I don't think there ever was a Gilbert Era.
Just a lot of hype and projection…some of it our own right here. Really, it seemed a much more romantic projection of our immediate past 2005-2010 where one glorious era follows another.
wouldn't be ironic
if case/ash doesn’t work out and its GG that comes back and starts showing out? haha that would be quite the story indeed.
i always thought that benching GG might be a good thing for him to remove all the pressure from him and let him work his way back one day.
Irony Would Be UT Joining The PAC-12
Only to be beaten by a Colorado team lead by Connor Wood.
I feel bad for Gilbert
But this had to be done. Maybe he wins the job again later if Case and/or Ash falter, but Gilbert did exactly what he simply could not do to keep the job, and that was to throw awful picks. In one quarter, no less.
I wish him nothing but the best, but Case deserves his shot now, even though I strongly doubt he’ll approach anything like his brother.
by TheElusiveShadow on Sep 12, 2011 1:40 PM CDT reply actions
Ashton Dorsey!
Always like him for some reason.
Joe Parker
It’s not secret Case McCoy doesnt have a big arm but neither did Major Applewhite and he went on to be break alot of Texas & BIG12 QB records. Like Applewhite, Case is smart, accurrate, leader and a good decision maker. Kellen Moore did’n’t have great arm strength arriving at Boise St. With off-season workouts & better footwork mechanics, Kellen Moore arm got stronger and even more accurrate. Its not like Texas has Justin Blackmon, Ryan Broyles, Macolm Floyd, or Jefferies out of South Carolina lining up at WR, therefore the deep ball is overrated at this point. Texas has alot of speedy & shifty WR’s whom are good at catching the ball in opening spaces, and making a play on the move, so that’s what we need to explode.
This has to be my favorite post yet
simply for stating your name in the header.
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by 2Cor12:9 on Sep 12, 2011 3:13 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Malcolm Floyd
Very interesting WR to include with the other three. How did that choice come about? FWIW, we have two great deep-ball receivers in our top 2 wideouts (Davis and Shipley), so that is not really a sound point.
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Like Applewhite, Case is smart, accurrate, leader and a good decision maker
We don’t have a large enough sample size to make that distinction
Its not like Texas has Justin Blackmon, Ryan Broyles, Macolm Floyd, or Jefferies out of South Carolina lining up at WR, therefore the deep ball is overrated at this point.
Not necessarily true. The deep ball is huge with play action, and with Harsin’s offense last year, that was Kellen Moore’s bread and butter. Play action deep to Titus Young. Also the deep ball isn’t really THAT much of an arm strength throw as it is really a touch pass.
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Case Arm Strength
Everyone acts like that cannot be corrected i know not maybe in season but there is training and drills that he can do
Case Looked Better Saturday Than He Did In Orange vs. White Last Spring
DId not see him throwing while rolling onto his back foot as he did in the Spring. Don’t know, maybe the kid had some coaching during the interrim.
i dont know if im the only one...
…but do others find it surprising that there werent contingency plans where gilbert would not be QB 1 and that ash might have to take over and hence having a complete set of plans drawn out for that contingency over the summer?
was it soo unlikely in the minds of the coaches that gilbert would not do well and ash, who we have heard a lot about in practice, might need to take over?
by vanterminatorhorn on Sep 12, 2011 2:14 PM CDT reply actions
I believe you saw the contingency plan...
…two picks and GG was taken out. Sounds like a back-up plan to me.
by iamjackburton on Sep 12, 2011 2:22 PM CDT up reply actions
That fact, right there, made me think that it's a new era and a new attitude this time around.
Accountability … and other talented options.
Yeah, that's the biggest difference between UT-UCLA of 2010 and UT-BYU of 2011
In 2011, there was a viable plan B that won the ballgame.
it won the ballgame, for sure...
…but now going forward, mack said we would need time to prepare a whole set of plays for ash in the coming weeks. i would have hoped that was done after seeing how well he did in practice…
maybe im being too hard/unreasonable on the coaching staff. i know they are doing a good job now as opposed to last yr
by vanterminatorhorn on Sep 12, 2011 4:17 PM CDT up reply actions
well, i meant in a different sense...
…mack said that we had only a few plays designed for ash and that in the coming weeks, we will design a whole set of plays for him, blah blah. all i was saying was why was there not a whole set of plans for him already drawn?
maybe im still not making myself clear… i just think the coaches could have been better prepared for GG not doing what we all hoped he would.
by vanterminatorhorn on Sep 12, 2011 4:15 PM CDT up reply actions
Case McCoy was the designated backup.
He stepped in and executed the main playbook, exactly as planned. And we won. Ash has an additional set of plays that only he runs (because he has the body and running ability for them), but if Case had gone down, Ash could have stepped into the main playbook. For several days, he took the majority of the snaps with the 1s. The coaches just prefer to bring him along more slowly on gameday — he’s a true freshman. I think it’s the right call, even if he ultimately has more upside than Case.
For all the Friday Night Lights fans...
Case McCoy = Matt Saracen.
So excited for Saturday.
MAN I'm excited to have Brown running
For the last few years I look around the league and see all these teams with great backs and wonder why we can’t have one. AT TEXAS. Now we do.
So excited. :)
For real
I went back and watched Brown’s runs, and was blown away. This kid is going to be fun to watch for the next few years, what a talent.
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by run Bevo run on Sep 12, 2011 3:45 PM CDT up reply actions
Joe Parker
David Ash can throw people!!!!!! Ash has good accuracy and throws a fine deep ball, if anything, David Ash actually reminds me more Colt McCoy. Once David Ash is given more opportunties, longhorn fans will eventually begin to see it too, not saying he’s the 2nd coming of Colt McCoy but that there are some similarities.
Why do you keep putting your name in the subject line of your posts?
Whoever said laughter is the best medicine had clearly never tasted Scotch.
It makes me laugh
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I guess I should have kept reading
someone else noticed this as well.
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LonghornEm
It’s even funnier if you click on his comment history.
Whoever said laughter is the best medicine had clearly never tasted Scotch.
2Cor
He’s four for four.
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lnghrn53
I’ve decided you’re my evil (or good?) twin, only with more vowels and a transposition problem.
There is so much beauty because life can be so symmetrical that it gives birth to this almost silent poetry . . . (like) a girl who's terrible at grammar saying, "Mama, you raised me good," and then being pushed down a well . . .
RobCob
Joe Parker does what Joe Parker wants. I don’t know why … but I kinda like it.
Your screen name just made me realize
Joe Parker saying “Joe Parker” is very “Dude.”
There is so much beauty because life can be so symmetrical that it gives birth to this almost silent poetry . . . (like) a girl who's terrible at grammar saying, "Mama, you raised me good," and then being pushed down a well . . .
HookTech
Maybe he or she is an advertising major. Just building the Joe Parker brand, imo.
"The only sport that should be cried over is tee ball."
- don't remember who said it, but I like it.
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lnghrn53
Joe Parker don’t need no brand. Joe Parker is Joe Parker.
There is so much beauty because life can be so symmetrical that it gives birth to this almost silent poetry . . . (like) a girl who's terrible at grammar saying, "Mama, you raised me good," and then being pushed down a well . . .
Maybe he likes speaking in 3rd person.
"Power corrupts. Absolute power is kind of neat."
by MexicanTitanFreak on Sep 12, 2011 2:52 PM CDT up reply actions
It's like he's royalty or something.
Reminds me of a Seinfield episode. “Dont touch Jimmy!”
by robthecob on Sep 12, 2011 2:54 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
LonghornEm
is not amused.
Whoever said laughter is the best medicine had clearly never tasted Scotch.
Not a Seinfeld fan?
Not that there’s anything wrong with that.
No, no
The first part of your post mentioned how it was talking like royalty. That was a reference to the “royal we” – Queen Victoria’s famous “we are not amused.”
Whoever said laughter is the best medicine had clearly never tasted Scotch.
I thought you were Queen of BON?
There is so much beauty because life can be so symmetrical that it gives birth to this almost silent poetry . . . (like) a girl who's terrible at grammar saying, "Mama, you raised me good," and then being pushed down a well . . .
Which is why we used the majestic plural, good sir.
Whoever said laughter is the best medicine had clearly never tasted Scotch.
There is so much beauty because life can be so symmetrical that it gives birth to this almost silent poetry . . . (like) a girl who's terrible at grammar saying, "Mama, you raised me good," and then being pushed down a well . . .
Heh, Henry VIII
That guy got lots of head.
LonghornEm
Did you just call us a bitch?
Whoever said laughter is the best medicine had clearly never tasted Scotch.
lnghrn53
What if I did? o.O
There is so much beauty because life can be so symmetrical that it gives birth to this almost silent poetry . . . (like) a girl who's terrible at grammar saying, "Mama, you raised me good," and then being pushed down a well . . .
Sigh...here we go again...
There is so much beauty because life can be so symmetrical that it gives birth to this almost silent poetry . . . (like) a girl who's terrible at grammar saying, "Mama, you raised me good," and then being pushed down a well . . .
There is so much beauty because life can be so symmetrical that it gives birth to this almost silent poetry . . . (like) a girl who's terrible at grammar saying, "Mama, you raised me good," and then being pushed down a well . . .
You already called me a bitch.
Witch is just one letter away.
Whoever said laughter is the best medicine had clearly never tasted Scotch.
You shall...deal with it.
There is so much beauty because life can be so symmetrical that it gives birth to this almost silent poetry . . . (like) a girl who's terrible at grammar saying, "Mama, you raised me good," and then being pushed down a well . . .
nothin' wrong with a bit of magic
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Nobody tole me
I had to bone up on Victorian history in order to talk footballs.
It enhances the experience
Whoever said laughter is the best medicine had clearly never tasted Scotch.
Ha! that was a good episode...wait they all were!
"Power corrupts. Absolute power is kind of neat."
by MexicanTitanFreak on Sep 12, 2011 2:58 PM CDT up reply actions
For some reason
It reminds me of this
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Dammit, rBr!
Click the box that says “open link in a new window!” :-)
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I actively choose those settings
It’s a part of a greater scheme.
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Yep, Watched It
Did not see much defense played that night. In fact outside of the 2nd half in Austin Saturday I have not been impressed by defensse from any team this season. It’s early, I suppose.
UCLA struggled with San Jose State last weekend also.
UCLA is a bottom dweller PAC12 team. Only teams in the PAC12 they might beat are Colorado and Washington State. This is definitely a winnable game.
SJS is probably the worst team in FBS this year
Just saying. Of course….we’ll still lose on Saturday.
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Case
I seem to remember a few years back there was another mccoy that didn’t have the physical tools as well. I think he turned out ok and is starting in the NFL. Let’s just give case his chance an time to develop.
by cadogfly5 on Sep 12, 2011 3:36 PM CDT via iPhone app reply actions
not all mc coys created equal
Shipleys on the other hand …..
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by realmccoy on Sep 12, 2011 7:42 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
UCLA Put Up 554 Yards vs. Houston
And lost.
I think Manny’s defense is giving up 1/2 a grand in yardage.
DON'T think
Damn computer box out-thunk me agin.
I'm really interested to see how the D holds up against UCLA
We’ve got legit ends, tackles, and line backers.
Come at us, bro!
Point taken
But I don’t see this year’s D giving up 264 on the ground.
Agree
This game seems to be made for Edmond and Hicks. Really glad to see Dorsey step up last week and a few of the other DT’s provide quality snaps.
Hopefully Jeffcoat can do better in containing his edge and fighting off blockers when the play is coming right at him.
Are Opposing OCs
Scheming to take Jeffcoat and Oak out of the game?
Yes
But they should be able to get at least a modicum of pressure on obvious passing downs. Especially after we made BYU one-dimensional.
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Yep
+1. Think MD will be trying to shut down the ground game.
by BurntOrange&Blue on Sep 12, 2011 6:23 PM CDT up reply actions
I'll take a W
over an impressive bench press any day.
The Longhorns are better with Case (and to an extent DAsh) on the field. The receivers are better. The running backs are better. The line is better. The D is better. The special teams are better. The coaches are better. The FANS are better. The team is just different, better, with Case or DAah in the huddle.
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anyone know
What’s up with Patrick McNamara? Dude was a beast at the spring game yet I don’t recall having seen him play yet. Thoughts?
Damn it feels good to be a gangsta...
by TNHorn on Sep 12, 2011 5:40 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
Agreed
I would like to see him get a few plays in game. Hopefully we will be leading UCLA enough to put in our second team (including Gilbert, hehe).
by TheHornIdentity on Sep 12, 2011 6:37 PM CDT up reply actions
Can Route 66 be avenged?
I am still mad as freaking heck that last year’s team did not show any signs of playing like they were mad as freaking heck about the last time the Bruins came to Austin (obviously, they did not show any signs of playing like it was a real football game).
Could the coaches use those two butt-kickings to motivate, or is it too early to get this team to play with slobber-mouthed anger?
By the way, the MD defense and talent we have is really quite encouraging. I think this Diaz guy will make us all forget about that Will Muskrat guy. But let’s not anoint him HCIW just yet.
Hook ’em,
BO&B
by BurntOrange&Blue on Sep 12, 2011 6:36 PM CDT reply actions
McCoy no arm stength!!
I suppose you are the person that still wants gg as the starter. Stop with the negative stuff on CM, they gave your boy a lot of chances to come thru, changes needed to happen!
Who are you referring to?
I believe the discussion is about CM vs DA, and there really isn’t a QB controversy….this week.
I really hope Texas fans are ready for this….
There will be plenty of bitching and a divide between those in the Case camps and those in the Ash camps. Its Team Legacy vs Team Phenom.
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I think it's pretty obvious
From all the comments yesterday and today that Texas fans are entirely unready.
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by GoHornsGo90 on Sep 12, 2011 11:06 PM CDT up reply actions
Totally agree armyjo66
Some fans have to realize that because a player was great in High School, doesn’t mean that same success will automatically translate over to the collegiate level. GG was a big miss by Texas recruiting staff. Was Andrew Luck even on Texas radar???
by Joe Parker on Sep 12, 2011 11:34 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Kasey Riess
Not trying to be rude here, because I’m not rBr, but all players we have on our roster were great in high school. I agree that they don’t automatically translate to the collegiate level, and QB is the best indicator of that; however, they were ALL great in HS. If they weren’t they’d be playing for Houston, not Texas.
Hook em.
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rBr
Not trying to be rude here, because I’m not rBr
You make me haz a sad. Now I’m going to go flood the local 911 dispatch with bogus calls.
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by run Bevo run on Sep 13, 2011 7:52 AM CDT up reply actions
I wanna be the starter
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by fanoflosingteams on Sep 12, 2011 7:01 PM CDT reply actions
Sorry
Not enough arm strength.
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by GoHornsGo90 on Sep 12, 2011 11:06 PM CDT up reply actions
He's got great footwork and can read a defense.
From what I heard on another board.
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by run Bevo run on Sep 13, 2011 7:53 AM CDT up reply actions
Joe Parker
After Saturday, Case McCoy’s performance will change alot of folks opinion on wether or not Case McCoy has what it takes to lead this team. Remember Ken Dorsey, QB for the Miami Hurricanes didn’t have much arm strength. He went on to have a successful college career and win multiple championships in the process. We gave GG a chance to lead this team, now let’s give Case McCoy a opportunity.
by Joe Parker on Sep 12, 2011 9:21 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
longhorn35
go back and watch Colt McCoy’s arm strength in the 2006 Ohio State game… Okay pretty much all of Colt’s career… After that go look at Most of the other QB’s that have had great collegiate careers in a non-option based offense. They didn’t have great arm strength but could hit onthe Intermediate and short routes consistenly and they could make plays with their feet…
Kasey Riess
Ken Dorsey had the BEST players that ever played together on one team surrounding him. The 2001 Miami team was probably the best team to ever grace the college football field. Completely dominant.
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