Texas-UCLA Quick React: 'Horns Exact Revenge
The Texas players were quick to say during the week that the 2010 loss to UCLA -- at the time the worst home loss in the Mack Brown era -- didn't weigh heavily on their collective minds. That this wasn't about revenge.
But for the fans, the trauma from last September was still alive and real as the 'Horns made their way out to California. Despite all the positive changes in the program, the book was not going to close on that 34-12 loss until definitive proof emerged that the 2011 football team bears little resemblance to the 2010 disaster.
Consider the book closed following the convincing 49-20 win. Mack Brown and his coaches will have some teaching points during the bye week after turnovers by Jaxon Shipley and Malcolm Brown, but overall, the Longhorns were the more physically dominant team a year after being physically dominated. The Longhorns were the more disciplined team a year after being less disciplined. The Longhorns were the aggressor defensively forcing turnovers a year after committing them by the handful.
There were a lot of things to feel good about in this performance and the sight of Texas fans celebrating at the Rose Bowl is always welcome.
A few more quick thoughts after some jump...
- Please welcome the tight end position back to the offense at Texas. It was nearly four years ago that a Texas tight end had a huge play on offense -- Jermichael Finley in the Cotton Bowl in 2007. DJ Grant's 45-yard touchdown catch represented the longest catch since that game and Grant's six catches for 77 yards and three touchdowns could be the type of break-out performance at the position a long time in coming. After a knee injury only slightly less severe than that suffered by Blaine Irby -- Grant tore two ligaments and his hamstring on a fateful play practicing in 2008 -- seeing Grant show that type of explosiveness has to warm the heart of Texas fans.
- Remember when the secondary was a concern after losing all those cornerbacks and getting less-than-ideal production from the safety position? Yeah, seems as if it was way in the past, doesn't it? Carrington Byndom, Adrian Phillips, and Quandre Diggs are all already making plays against the pass and standing tall against the run, while Kenny Vaccaro -- Machete -- was all over the field with an interception of his own and 11 tackles. Even Blake Gideon showed up around the football and helped contribute to the big interception by Adrian Phillips by tipping the pass.
- Manny Diaz is a wizard. What else is there to really say about his schemes? No wonder those SEC offensive coordinators couldn't wait to get rid of him after only a season.
- I haven't always believed that Case McCoy could be a competent starter at Texas, but he proved his capability at the college level with a Colt-like line of 12-15 for 168 yards and two touchdowns, showing off the playmaking ability that defined his older brother by keeping plays alive and making throws outside the pocket, where Case is clearly more comfortable. And there was something incredibly comforting about seeing a McCoy jog off the field victorious following the game.
- Don't look now, but Texas wide receivers have completed all three passes attempted this season, with two going for touchdowns and the third icing the game against BYU. Looks like those trick plays are working. Praise Harsinwhite.
- Once again, the Longhorns finished strong in the fourth quarter, but decided to complement a strong finish with a strong start, scoring 14 big first-quarter points after only three combined in the first two games. Starting Malcolm Brown helped...
- The true freshman from Cibolo Steele is the real deal. His combination of patience, vision, and tough running style is translating to the college game better and more quickly than I anticipated. Always nice to be wrong about those type of things. It was Brown's first 100-yard game at Texas and the performance should be the first of many.
- The special teams are still an issue, particularly on kick coverage. But that's the only nitpick for now.
- Mack Brown said during the week before the Rice game that if opponents wanted to get at Texas, they had better do it quickly. Oklahoma still looms as a monumental task in three weeks, but this Longhorn squad is rapidly improving -- that advantage for the Sooners could decrease at a rapid rate over that period.
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More nitpicks
I think there’s still some concern on the DL. Less pressure from the ends than we would like, and still giving up some runs up the middle. Just the kind of stuff for Diaz to get after them on after such a convincing win.
Agree on the ends
Our defense ends have been somewhat of a disappointment. Regarding being soft against the run game, though, I think it’s almost certainly biased based on the teams we’ve played. All three teams have featured relatively strong rushing attacks, and we’ve actually forced them to be much worse than their mean.
Secondly, teams are running the ball against us more than average because our secondary has been playing out of its mind right now. Seriously, no one — no. one. — expected our corners/safeties to be this good this fast. As UCLA quickly figured out (I think Prince completed as many passes to the Texas secondary as to his own players), testing this Texas secondary in the face of a fire zone blitz is a recipe for disaster. Credit Diaz no doubt, but credit the young players for stepping up.
Greg Davis haikus; a lot like his offenses; always go sideways.
by pleaseplaykindle on Sep 18, 2011 4:16 PM CDT up reply actions
My question
Do ANY college teams run the slant route? Ive watched college football all day today and saw maybe 3-5 slant routes.
"Stability is a factor in teams that win the championship. But if you stabilize on a team that's going to end up short of that, then all you're doing is spinning your wheels in the 45-win range."-----Daryl Morey
by fanoflosingteams on Sep 17, 2011 11:13 PM CDT reply actions
My explanation
College DC’s know the slant is much much easier than most outside breaking routes and deep balls, at least for college qb’s, so they really make sure to take it away, as opposed to NFL DC’s, who know most NFL QB’s can make all the throws.
Colt really exploited this.
The 5-7 yard slant route was basically our running game in 2008.
Greg Davis haikus; a lot like his offenses; always go sideways.
by pleaseplaykindle on Sep 18, 2011 4:17 PM CDT up reply actions
"the Longhorns were the more physically dominate team"
*dominant. Sorry, it’s a pet peeve mine. :)
RE: trick plays
Anyone else watch the Boise game? I remember at least 3 trick plays called by Boise, against Toledo mind you, and all three failed miserably. Gotta wonder home much losing Harsin has to do with the that failure rate as the timing seemed off on all three of them. Just an observation.
Because being a Texas fan means never having to say you're sorry.
Mack is right...
If this team is going to be beaten someone better do it early, cause it is gonna get a lot harder by season’s end. I am VERY pleased.
Play like you mean it...
So nice to get to a game in person and have almost a third of the crowd be Texas fans
and not even be in Texas. Burnt orange was everywhere at the Rose Bowl.
Also, that scramble by McCoy on 3rd and 28 made me a believer. Ash looked good too.
Another +1
I’m sure a lot of the Texas fans that were there live in the LA area, but I talked to a lot that traveled from all over. Great job Horns fans. Hook ’Em!
BEVO IS ANGRY!
I too questioned whether Case would be a competent performer at this level
but he performed better than I expected and it was more than enough to win the game. I’m happy to be proven wrong. He was heady and showed he was in command; I give him credit for all of it.
That said, I’m not remotely convinced by his performance that he’s the best quarterback on the team. He still hasn’t shown the arm necessary to be a credible deep threat, and he’s not half the runner Ash is. Once Ash gets a full arsenal of pass and run option plays under his belt, he’s hands-down the bigger threat of the two.
I don't understand the sense behind all these comments...
Case has undoubtedly proven that he is the best quarterback on the team at winning. If he doesn’t play, we are probably one and two. I would rather have a QB who can complete wins more than one that can complete passes that we may or may not ever throw. Not to mention by his completion percentage he has proven that he can complete more throws than anyone else on our roster.
simple
Have you sEen Ash throw a bad pass? I haven’t. Colt threw a couple ugly ones yday. They actually ended up a net positive. Mike davis is still laughing about his. OU turns those throws inro interceptions.You have to happy about what he has done so far, but you also has to be aware of Case’s limitations
by codaxx on Sep 18, 2011 7:35 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Sorry...
but it’s factually incorrect to say that Case has a higher pass completion percentage than David Ash. Case has a 76% completion rate this year, while Ash has an 85% completion rate. Granted, Case has thrown far more passes, but that’s not of David Ash’s design, that’s on the coaches. When asked to pass, Ash has been nails.
And, as I said, Ash is clearly more of a running threat. He’s gained a net of 33 yards on the ground this year, while Case has run twice for a total of 2 yards on the ground.
I also think the notion that we lose one or two games without Case is nonsense. When in the game, Ash moved the team quite well. My only reservation about him at this point is that he appears to be running a far smaller package of plays than either Case or Garrett. That should work out in time as the coaches allow him to run more looks. As that happens, I expect he wins the starting position outright.
Now, I’m not saying any of this to denigrate what Case did against UCLA, nor what he did last week against BYU. Bottom line, he got the lion’s share of the snaps and we came away with wins in both games. No argument there and I tip my hat to him. He played well and I hope he continues to.
However, if you think the fact that he can’t threaten the deep pass and is no threat to run won’t hurt when we face a real defense (like we will in three weeks), I don’t know what to say to you.
ENOUGH.
Good God we’re not competing for the national chmapionship this year. Let’s let the coaches work this out. All of this internet grousing really can only work against the best players seeing the field.
by Erasmus Funderburke on Sep 18, 2011 8:34 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Ash has only thrown 8 passes total all season
You really think it’s fair to compare completion rates on that small a sample?!?!
Watch out, I bite.
by EddieTheAlbinoSquirrel on Sep 18, 2011 11:13 AM CDT up reply actions
Understood...
And I conceded that point when I said Case has thrown far more passes, but I cited the stat in direct response to a comment about how Case’s passing percentage showed he was the most likely quarterback on the team to complete passes. That’s factually incorrect and I said so. There are other reasons I think Ash is a better passer and quarterback, but that issue has been talked about here and elsewhere, so I won’t add to it here.
I don't like the way Ash squints.
See ya later, alligator.
by Paleface Horn on Sep 18, 2011 11:49 AM CDT up reply actions
Leave to Paleface to stir the pot. ;-)
"The only sport that should be cried over is tee ball."
- don't remember who said it, but I like it.
Not to mention
Every insider’s report on fall practice has stated that Ash is by far the most accurate passer on the team. Where he’s weak is that if he doesn’t find his first or (sometimes) second read, he takes off and runs. If only Gilbert would have taken off and run or thrown the ball away when he didn’t find his man, he’d still be leading the team. Case, on the other hand, does a better job of following his progressions, but he has neither Ash’s arm nor his accuracy. Once Ash becomes comfortable with his reads, he’s the starter.
My Nitpick
D-Line needs more pressure and tackles need to keep that pad level low and maintain gap fit assignments. They got gashed on traps, cut-backs, and counters.
Secondary – Great but have a tendency to take plays off or miss assignments. Corners got caught sleeping for big plays. This will not cut it with better WRs!!! OU & Lite…
Special Teams… Lordt the kick coverage was terrible.
by French-Horn on Sep 18, 2011 1:15 AM CDT via mobile reply actions
Congrats on the win
Looks like you’ve got a team on the upswing… enjoy it.
Hope to be there ourselves one of these days.
Thanks! Your team played a role in this, thanks to a huge wake-up call for us last year. Hope we just helped you out in a similar way.
You and other UCLA fans have shown a lot of class in the comments; quite refreshing and greatly appreciated!
by MarkW on Sep 18, 2011 2:32 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
That could be the case
A lot of us really wanted Neuheisel to succeed, but it’s becoming rapidly apparent that it’s just not happening, and we’re sick of seeing so much talent under-perform so miserably. This game might be the straw that broke the camel’s back where that’s concerned.
Have a great rest of your season, and we’ll be looking for a statement win from your guys against the Sooners in a couple weeks…
I think Keenan Robinson deserves a shout-out as well
He was everywhere, flying to the ball, and extremely disruptive.
Kenny Vaccaro is the Truth. He was the best defensive player on the field.
Two worries moving forward:
1) Special teams: our own runbacks were nothing special and kick coverage was atrocious. Let’s not downplay this. Special teams is where close games are won and lost.
2) Case McCoy played a fantastic game and I don’t wish to take any shine off that. But he only threw, by my count, two deep balls: the touchdown to a wide-open D.J. Grant was a thing of beauty. But the near-interception was a badly under thrown ball. I fear the book, when McCoy is in the game, will be to take away the underneath stuff and force him to beat you deep. Still and all, it’s easier to develop arm strength than it is moxie, which Case has got in spades.
Finally, raise your hand if you were on campus for Rout 66. I was, and I’d have preferred two more touchdowns for us, and two fewer for UCLA yesterday. Nice fans, nice folks, but I wanted to crush that team into powder.
Simplicity is always the secret, to a profound truth, to doing things, to writing, to painting. Life is profound in its simplicity. - Charles Bukowski
Agree on Keenan
He was a monster, especially in the blitz game. Acho was great too. Hicks was much quieter than last game. KV is such a sure tackler and so explosive to the ball—nice to finally have some DBs like that.
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Rebuilding season my ass!
See ya later, alligator.
RIGHT??
18 freshmen played like ManBeasts out there! I was so proud of our youngsters,,coaches included in that.
If a man is alone in the woods and he speaks, if no one hears him,,is he still wrong?
Case scares and excites me at the same time. Can he run the ball at all? Just curious if he ran in HS?
Iowa St. will be an interesting game. Both teams are playing with major balls right now. Coaches need to get MB to run with pads down a little more, but hell that’s nitpicking. He’s rolling right now!
Jackson Jeffcoat? Will he ever have his coming out party? Just not seeing much from him.
Way....off topic
But if you missed this last night…here it is! Mayweather sucker punching Ortiz…what a punk!
hahahahah
that’s going to make for a great rematch. that just made ortiz and him a ton of money. Very WWF
by Matagordahorn on Sep 18, 2011 9:18 AM CDT up reply actions
weird ending to that fight
I see how it is seen as kind of cheap but if the ref aint between ya trying to hug/apologize to the guy who is there to beat your ass is kinda silly. much ado about nothing i say.
Because being a Texas fan means never having to say you're sorry.
by dukeoforange on Sep 18, 2011 9:57 AM CDT up reply actions
The Secondary
Each game, I’m more and more impressed by the young secondary. Does anyone remember Quandre Diggs name being mentioned yesterday…I don’t. Could it be that’s the case because he is blanketing receivers and the ball’s not even being thrown his way? When’s the last time that happened here? It will be interesting to see how they hold up against the top notch receivers with the Okie teams.
As regards the D Line, I think they are doing a better job of run stuffing each week. The way Manny D is played, I think think the sacks are going to be really spread around.
Didn't Quandre have that near pick in the 3rd?
nm
by Erasmus Funderburke on Sep 18, 2011 8:42 AM CDT up reply actions
I Am Carried Away
The enthusiasm, youth of the team + the creativeness of the coaches has just boggles my mind. I have never been more impressed, or more excited over a Longhorn squad. The youngest team in major NCAA football is scary. Nothing that this team does will surprise me.
Change isn't good or bad it just "is". Don Draper of Madmen
Case is the real deal...
He has the “it” factor and moves the chains, just like his brother before him. Ash is a talent, but he is going to have to use his playing opportunities to win the job.
Not sure he can do it, but Harsinwhite will make the right decisions….lets trust these young wunderkind coaches that Mack has surrounded himself with.
I’m flat excited and think the OU/OSU/A&M/Baylor games are going to be dogfights.
I'd kill for a Nobel Peace Prize
by MeatchickenHorn on Sep 18, 2011 10:21 AM CDT reply actions
I think we should be happy to have two good QB's
That bring different skill sets to the table.
It will allow us to bring some real interesting packages to the OU game. There is no sense squabbling about who is the better of the two.
I think the thing holding Ash back is simply age and decision making. Those will come. Plus, its still a good idea to hold a little back for OU. I’m betting Ash plays a huge role in that contest.
As Saban would say, it's about the process
No one’s anointing the QB before practices even start. It’s being decided on the field. Gilbert got his shot and missed. Case still has his, and Ash isn’t going anywhere.
The point being, for the first time in a long time, I have faith in our coaches to not only make the right decision, but make that decision in the right way.
speed, squiggle, and power
We showed team speed on D. We have some burners on O [I count Monroe, reformed longjumper, and Shipley].
We also have power/speed packages [I count Malcolm Brown, Joe B., Grant, and Kenny V. on D]. We have some squiggle, and here I mean Fozzie.
I cannot imagine using them better than Harsinwhite do. Maybe a touch more Joe B. as the season moves on, but that will probably come at the expense of Cody’s moments and in spot relief of Malcolm B.
I am curious what you guys who break down film think are the maturation prospects for the special teams. Do they need personnel changes? More practice setting up the returns? More practice shedding blockers?
I seriously doubted Case
I don’t anymore after yesterday. It won’t always be pretty but it’s effective. I have to believe the QB “competition” in the spring and fall was fixed. Case and Ash are light years better than GG and it’s not even close. I’m just glad that poor coaching decision didn’t cost us a game. The future is bright and I’m excited.
"Knowledge is knowing that a tomato is a fruit, wisdom is knowing not to put it in a fruit salad" - Unknown
I don't think it was fixed
Mack said it yesterday. Case plays better than he practice. The corollary is that Gilbert practices better than he plays. Ash is still more of an enigma, but all practice reports said that he’s a gamer with great accuracy and a better arm than Ash, but his progressions aren’t as good. (They’re probably at Gilbert level, ha!)
better arm than Case.
Progressions will come with experience. I wouldn’t compare him to Gilbert.
"The only sport that should be cried over is tee ball."
- don't remember who said it, but I like it.
Two typos in one post
That’s what I mean—better arm than Case. I only hope Ash reads defenses better than Gilbert. He’s doing fine so far.
BYU Loss
I loved the win, but should I be nervous that BYU (supposedly chock full of NFL Day 1 draftees) got drilled by Utah 54-10? That’s a Utah squad that lost to USC.
Run like you stole somethin'
I noticed that as well
and to further the horrific, transitive property implications, Ole Miss, whom BYU had beat in week 1, just got pasted by Vanderbilt 30-7.
by BrooklynHorn on Sep 18, 2011 1:12 PM CDT up reply actions
I guess were not number 1 in the Colley Poll anymore.
"The only sport that should be cried over is tee ball."
- don't remember who said it, but I like it.
No better way to reach a contradiction than to apply transitivity to CFB.
Furthermore, I think Texas is a very different team in week 3 than in weeks 1 and 2.
Greg Davis haikus; a lot like his offenses; always go sideways.
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