Garrett Gilbert Injury: Texas QB Has Season-Ending Shoulder Surgery
by Peter Bean on Sep 20, 2011 11:17 AM CDT
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PrintThe University of Texas Longhorns football program announced on Tuesday morning that junior quarterback Garrett Gilbert has undergone season-ending shoulder surgery.
"The injury appeared to occur during the Rice game," Texas Head Athletic Trainer for Football Kenny Boyd said. "He had symptoms, but was not affected in practice leading up to BYU. After that, it got progressively worse. We did an MRI on the shoulder last week, and after our medical staff looked at the results, we recommended that he have surgery. He spent some time talking with his family and they agreed that was the route they wanted to go."
Gilbert did not show any signs of injury during the Rice game, nor in his next start against BYU, when he was pulled from the game after throwing his second interception -- on a deep ball that had plenty of distance, making it difficult to know how much his shoulder was bothering him. Whatever the extent of this injury, the decision to shut down 2011 and have surgery should give Gilbert a chance to secure a medical redshirt. Assuming he wants to transfer to another school after this season, that would give him two remaining years of eligibility.
In any case, Gilbert is by all accounts a great kid and teammate and we'll be wishing him well whatever is next for him. If his career at Texas is over, he will depart with a final stat line of 305 completions in 537 attempts (57%) for 3,301 yards, 13 TDs and 23 INTs.
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Joe Parker
Seems as though this is Gilbert’s out if he wants to transfer… With additional QB prospects coming in next year that better fit the HarsinWhite Offense…
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by LonghornEm on Sep 20, 2011 5:25 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I expect a transfer after the season
Hate to see how his career has come along, but I think his best opportunities are outside of UT. This could be the best thing for him. Good luck to Garrett, wherever he ends up.
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by The Audit Horn on Sep 20, 2011 11:28 AM CDT via iPhone app reply actions
Smells like a transfer
Really cant blame the kid though, wish him the best
by jtdoes on Sep 20, 2011 11:30 AM CDT via mobile reply actions
maybe it is best
This maybe the best thing for him I hope it all works out. Though as a Texas fan, this scary. We only have 2 QBs. Wondering if this is the end of the Ash package
by codaxx on Sep 20, 2011 11:32 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
smells?
you think he underwent surgery to salvage a year of eligibility? Not saying he didn’t, just wondering if that is what you’re thinking.
"A&M has had every opportunity over the past 50 years to emerge from Texas' shadow, and failed." - Jean-Jacques Taylor
Yep
That’s exactly what it sounds like. But, a good move for both parties, and it’s no one’s business regardless.
Uh - He is not that stupid
You don’t get your arm cut into for a medical red shirt.
Change isn't good or bad it just "is". Don Draper of Madmen
If it was an optional surgery to clear up some scarring
and it could be put off until the offseason and he was the starter he would wait. But he will not see the starting position again this year. So he opts for the surgery to protect his long term health and conveinantly solidifies a push for a med hardship. Win-win.
Because being a Texas fan means never having to say you're sorry.
by dukeoforange on Sep 20, 2011 1:35 PM CDT up reply actions
win-win
Nothing wrong with that. Best of luck to him. Maybe this will help him feel a bit better and get his confidence and head back in the game.
A&M: Ready,Set, Go.....
I'll buy that
Hope he lands in a good place. I like that TSU program down the road.
Before you criticize someone, walk a mile in their shoes. If they get mad, you're a mile away AND you have their shoes.
actually
yes i do. I don’t think its a major surgery or it would have been known way before and diagnosed. Although he lacks the “it” factor, GG has all the physical tools and i think he and his family believe he still has a shot at Pro ball if he can be successful at another school and put up some good numbers before he graduates.
this also allows him to save face a little bit and tell people or future employers (NFL) that his poor play was a result of the injury or at least was a factor.
Like i said, i’m not criticizing GG for the move but i think the motives are sort of obvious IMO
GG
yeah, I was going to ask if GG can now use this year as a medical redshirt season and still have 2 years left to play if he transfers and sits out a year…
Hey PB
are you sure this is not an early April 1st headline!
"Nobody leaves this field until we beat the hell out of them".................... L.J."Louis"Jordan in 1913 before kickoff of the Texas/ou game.
To clarify,
I don’t think there’s any doubt this is a legit injury/surgery situation. Just saying the withholding of info and timing was odd.
Withholding of info.?
This ain’t the NFL. College rules don’t require injury disclosures. A savvy coach does not give out too much info.
i always wanted to know
who is john paul floyd? is he a scholarship player or walk on or what?
I think he's the 5th Beatle.
Kidding, walk-on QB…seen him practice, not bad. Kinda scrappy.
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Being a big fan of both the
Beatles and Pink Floyd, LOL, but this would have to be the 6th Beatle….or 5th member of Pink Floyd.
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Coach on the field?
Football in one hand, lunch pail in the other?
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by run Bevo run on Sep 20, 2011 2:26 PM CDT up reply actions
Applewhite. nt whills
"A&M has had every opportunity over the past 50 years to emerge from Texas' shadow, and failed." - Jean-Jacques Taylor
The Wildcat ...
starring Fozzy Whitaker, with occasional pitch, run, & throws from little Ship.
It is probably John Paul Floyd.
But out of all the guys on the roster who played quarterback in high school — Diggs, Thompson, Harris — the guy with the best arm and accuracy is probably Miles Onyegbule.
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by Wescott Eberts (GoBR) on Sep 20, 2011 1:23 PM CDT up reply actions
Wow, you sure are drinkin' the Harsin kool-aid, aren't you?!
Hope you’re proven right in the long-term. He’s looked good so far.
Considering Harsin will be the head coach of UCLA next year, you should drink faster
But it’s okay…he told Applewhite that once he’s gone, he will become even stronger and come back to Applewhite as a holographic image at various key moments to offer sage advice and remind him to use the Force.
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by 54b on Sep 20, 2011 2:32 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
Ha! "Use the force, Major! Trust your feelings!"
Man, I sure hope that Boise Boy doesn’t leave any time soon. The ‘Horns are rollin’ now!
Tcu a choice
Anyone think he would transfer to Tcu maybe play with his brother
Don't agree with this at all.
He would definitely be worth it for the TCU coaches to take a flyer on Gilbert. He’s still got huge upside.
Huge upside?
Really? I wish GG the best in his playing future but “huge upside” is a bit of a stretch.
"Knowledge is knowing that a tomato is a fruit, wisdom is knowing not to put it in a fruit salad" - Unknown
"Huge upside" is, by definition, "a stretch" of a statement.
It be a stretch … but it be true. Can’t fake a high school career like that and a #1 nat’l QB recruit ranking.
seriously?
dont be a d-bag. no doctor would agree to perform surgery on someone that didnt have something wrong with them, and nobody would willingly undergo surgery just to save a year of eligibility. thats ridiculous.
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by run Bevo run on Sep 20, 2011 12:15 PM CDT up reply actions
That's funny because it's true.
But it’s not like Gilbert’s getting a tummy tuck…well unless he’s opting for the same post football career path as Matt Nordgren.
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by 54b on Sep 20, 2011 1:27 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
just a guess
out-of-context lynching photos
I didn’t see them, but I’m pretty sure it’s a safe bet to just say: let this one go, my friend.
Funny when you're the admin, you get to decide the context.
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by run Bevo run on Sep 20, 2011 6:26 PM CDT up reply actions
Like I said
I didn’t see them, therefore cannot, and am not, making judgment. I just copied and pasted from your sig. The point I was making was that it’s probably not worth dredging up that conversation.
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by run Bevo run on Sep 21, 2011 9:48 AM CDT up reply actions
we hear about 2 games later?
After Case blows up ucla. Optional surgery maybe. Sorry to offend.
by 2Bearnest on Sep 20, 2011 3:33 PM CDT via iPhone app up reply actions
Regarding the BYU game
I recognize the team was not responding to Gilbert, but interceptions aside, there was the one throw to Jaxon that came up about 8 yards short. I recall that third down play and thinking it odd Gilbert misfired on the pass as he was out of the pocket and throwing on the run. He usually is a much better passer on the run. Very un-Gilbert like to be that far off target. Makes sense now in light of this news.
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Gilbert has a little hitch at the top of his delivery
Something I had sort of noticed in the past, but never really thought about as a problem until I saw he and Ash warming up side by side entering the second half of the Rice game. At the time, I thought that hitch could sap the momentum generated by the beginning of his delivery, but after this news, I wonder if it didn’t also put some stress on his shoulder, too, by dragging it through the rest of his motion.
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by Wescott Eberts (GoBR) on Sep 20, 2011 1:25 PM CDT up reply actions
You are right
It was like the ball got stuck in his hand and didn’t release properly.
A&M: Ready,Set, Go.....
Yep
That’s what I thought of when I heard about this.
by Erasmus Funderburke on Sep 20, 2011 2:40 PM CDT up reply actions
I'll catch flack for this
considering we see him as a 1 read QB…but I could see him being deadly as a Red Raider.
"A&M has had every opportunity over the past 50 years to emerge from Texas' shadow, and failed." - Jean-Jacques Taylor
We already have Brewer, the more mobile of the two from LT.
Tech has a Fr, RS Fr, RS So QB’s and the starting QB is a RS Jr. There already is an over abundance of QB’s at Tech.
by idaho_techsan on Sep 20, 2011 12:14 PM CDT up reply actions
No one fakes an injury to have surgery
No one gets cut open as a way to get a medical red shirt so they can have an extra year after they transfer. That’s just crazy talk. Remember, he’s one of us. You may not have been happy with all of his play or with the coaches’ decisions to play him, but he’s one of us: http://www.burntorangenation.com/2011/9/12/2420112/he-is-one-of-us.
On another note, I think about half of our wide outs and d-backs played quarterback in high school. I’m sure that Harsinwhite could put together a whole offense based on zone reads, wildcats and other razzle dazzle. We’ll be fine.
by horneye on Sep 20, 2011 12:11 PM CDT reply actions 4 recs
Agreed, This Isn't a Simms B12 CC Game
The medical records cannot be faked, and it’s not like he got up clutching the non-impact shoulder after a dismal performance. And QB’s with shoulder injury histories instantly come with a discount in the NFL draft. No doubt it’s real. If he had continued to start he may have played through it and delayed surgery to the off-season, that’s quite common for some injuries. But this is legit.
by RMHorn on Sep 20, 2011 12:42 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Except Bradford and Colt in the recent past
"The only problem with Basketball is that it isn't Football"- One of my wife's more cogent observations
What Exactly Are You Excepting Them From?
Surely you’re not saying their medical records were faked, surely you’re not. I’ll presume you mean them not coming at a discount in the NFL draft. But I think their agents, fellow draftees and NFL teams who paid them know they would’ve made more if they hadn’t suffered the kinds of injuries they did in college.
More importantly
No doctor will operate without medical cause.
Greg Davis haikus; a lot like his offenses; always go sideways.
by pleaseplaykindle on Sep 20, 2011 2:03 PM CDT up reply actions
No ETHICAL doctor would
but there are plenty unethical ones out there. Be that as it may, this is not a faked surgery just prolly one where the timing of it was of choice to the patient aka GG. Honestly I feel like this is a non-story. I hope he gets better and I hope he finds a better situation for him and the potential he still has.
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by dukeoforange on Sep 20, 2011 4:57 PM CDT up reply actions
I would just like to say
He didn’t have plenty of distance on that last pick. He could have scored a TD if he’d thrown the ball 3 yards farther. By that standard, he was 3 yards short of plenty.
TEXAS FIGHT
He can't get an extra year of playing time out of this
The surgery can let him recover this season’s eligibility, it won’t change the fact that Gilbert has only five years to play four seasons. Even if Gilbert gets a hardship waiver for this season, next year will still be year four of the five-year clock. He’d sit year four as a transfer, and would only be able to play again in year five. The NCAA will only grant a sixth year of eligibility if Gilbert misses two seasons for “reasons beyond his control”; sitting out a year because he chose to transfer wouldn’t satisfy this requirement.
I hope I’m missing something here; I’d love for him to be able to play two years at another school and see how well he does away from the pressure of the 40 acres.
undefeated in Sun Belt play
Jordan Shipley was here for 6 years
He missed 4 games due to injuries and was granted an extra year of eligibilty so it would not be out of the question for GG to get the same since he will miss 10 games due to injury.
Shipley missed two entire seasons due to injuries.
That’s the type of the thing the NCAA requires when allowing a 6th year (except for Case Keenum; I’ll never understand that one).
undefeated in Sun Belt play
Not really the same thing ... but I wish you were right.
LongCat is probably right, though. Jordan never transferred – he was just the victim of multiple miserable injuries. If Gilbert transferred right now and the NCAA miraculously counted this year as his sit-out transfer year, then he’d still have ’12 & ’13 to play for someone else.
I know it’s not the “sexy-thing-to-do” for NCAA QBs nowadays but I really think GG needs to stay put & finish out at UT. Playing one final year “for glory” at another school is not all as rosy as it sounds. I still think he’s got a lot of upside & very well be a vital cog in the near future for the Longhorns’ next title run. I know it’s not going well for him right now but he’s still a great kid w/ a lot of talent and very well may have a future at UT and in the NFL. Granted, practicing then playing for 2 years under someone like Bobby Petrino would be great for a talented QB but he could learn a lot by being patient & learning the Harsin & Applewhite system & them coaching him up.
robthecob
I have to totally disagree with you. A change of surroundings with do GG some good. Transferring to another institution will give him a clean slate. U of Wisconsin wouldn’t be a bad choice.
by Joe Parker on Sep 20, 2011 4:49 PM CDT via iPhone app up reply actions
UW & their running offense would be a great place for any QB ...
… who likes to throw lots of INTs. That goes without saying. Yeah, wherever he stays / goes and whatever his career winds up accomplishing, it’s going to be interesting to look at from hindsight. I could really see it going lots of ways, at this time. If he stays with the ‘Horns, though, I’ll enjoy them having a motherlode of talented QBs on the roster. At least we can all agree that all hopes are for Garrett to come out of this injury all healed up and slingin’ the ball all over the field, wherever he happens to be.
Does Vince Young have a younger brother?
Just saying. We have a McCoy and Shipley, why not a Young too.
by eatmorebugs on Sep 20, 2011 12:24 PM CDT via iPhone app reply actions
Apparently some dude has been criminally impersonating him recently. The guy is apparently strikingly similar, perhaps we can take a flyer on him with a scholarship offer in the 2013 group?
Maybe it's just our familiarity with Vince
but if I saw this guy that is supposedly impersonating him I would like to think I could tell the difference. I saw the story yesterday after Vince, himself, tweeted that people in the Philly/D.C. area should be aware of this phony.
LZ posted a side-by-side picture of him on twitter and I personally would like to think I could tell the difference between them in person (physical stature of the impersonator may resemble him more though of course)
http://blog.chron.com/sportsupdate/files/2011/09/mash1.jpg
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The guy is 33 years old
and a convicetes sex offender so No
Not to mention
we also have siblings (or maybe cousins for one) in Acho, Benson and Diggs.
We should start only recruiting kids with younger brothers.
As a VERY Harsh Critic of Gilbert...
…I wish him the best and a speedy recovery. I rode him hard for his failures as a leader of this team since last season. And while I suggested he may have been plagued by a sense of entitlement that often comes from the background of privilege he was born into, I am impressed with how he’s handled bench duties since. The last QB we had who lost the competition to start, Jevon Snead, was noticeably disinterested and disengaged and had mentally checked out when called upon to perform when McCoy was hurt during the KSU game. GG has stayed active and engaged despite his demotion, and as it turns out despite his injury. This is a character-revealing and character-building opportunity for him. It sounds like he’ll grow from it and perhaps eventually become successful in his chosen career, most likely in a new zip code. Kudos to the young man, and with a good attitude, hard work and studying others who do well in his craft I’m sure he’ll land on his feet and live his dream in a program that better suits him at his stage of development. Till Gabriel Blows His Horn!
by RMHorn on Sep 20, 2011 12:32 PM CDT via mobile reply actions 1 recs
There are some real chickenshits on this blog.
You think he FAKED an injury. Why don;t you go back to TexAgs where you belong.
by Snide Aside on Sep 20, 2011 12:34 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
+ 1
It’s incredible how some people choose to view the world only from their own selfish interests. Gilbert is a great kid who has given all he had for the Horns. Up until now it hasn’t been good enough for the team to be successful but it was all he had. Unlike some of us he never complained or blamed others. He was a man about everything that has happened to him.He is one of us & NONE of us cares moreabout this team than he does.He, unlike us, is part of this team.
Suggesting he & a doctor cooked this up for cover is insulting to both of them & our program. Consider what you’re suggesting based upon your value system. This is behavior very similar to those peopple who booed him during the Rice game. Please crawl back under your rock.
My guess is Garrett Gilbert will be back in burnt orange next year trying to secure the starting QB job.
by ole tnhorn on Sep 20, 2011 3:09 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Agreed.
We have some real dumbass and class-less fans.
by Hippie Killer on Sep 20, 2011 5:10 PM CDT up reply actions
fishy, yes
medical redshirt, hopefully
like the kid, 100%
likely Texas QB again, doubt it
Obviously
Gilbert’s getting the surgery on his shoulder so he’ll be ready for the 4th quarter against Tech where he’ll be called upon to throw a long ball to a streaking Mike Davis and inspire the team to score one last TD to win the game.
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SECede?....Whoop(s)!!
My question is...
Is he having season ending surgery because of the shoulder or is he goin ahead and getting it now because HIS season may be over? Is this something that could’ve waited or is this something that needed to be done ASAP?
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by fanoflosingteams on Sep 20, 2011 1:34 PM CDT reply actions
With QB shoulder injuries ...
… it’s not something that a young player with the earning potential of million$ needs to screw around with. And it’s not like the team was riding his talent wave in a national championship season. Whether he was demoted because of the injury-induced bad performance or just a regularly bad performance, he wasn’t going to be starting. Better to just get the shoulder fixed up & not compound the injury than to stand there & hold the clipboard prior to having off-season surgery. I don’t fault him one bit for getting this done ASAP. This ‘11 team’s success is not going to hinge on an individual player’s absence, save for Kheeston Randall.
Does any other school's 3rd string QB
make the front page of ESPN.com when having season ending surgery?
he was the 1st string just a week and a half ago
He was the 1st string all last year. Considering what has transpired in his career, it’s not shocking that it’s front page news.
Plus, Gilbert's TV show, "Monday Morning Clipboard" on LHN was falling in the ratings.
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He could be a decent QB if he could start all over again
Start all over from the ground up somewhere else without all this baggage. Wish him well.
I have been really harsh on Gilberts's performance as a Horn.
But this is sad news, I wish him the best and I actually feel bad for the kid. I hope that he is able to make a full recovery and become a successful QB somewhere.
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Good Luck
Good luck Garrett. Thanks for choosing Texas and giving it your all. You showed outstanding character in the way you handled a difficult situation. Thanks for the Big Nebraska win in 2010 and last but not least, thanks for committing on the first day possible, it showed your love of the Longhorns. Good luck kid.
You act like he's going away on a four-year Mormon mission or something.
Can’t he at least stay on the roster for this season?
Don't want to seem insensitive but
Does this change (or should it change) the current Harsinwhite approach to our quarterbacks? Without GG on the sideline, can we afford to have Ash in a Tebow-like play package?
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