Sundays with Bill, 2011 Wrap Party
The 2011 College Football Season ended with Bama hoisting another trophy. Say what you want about Saban, or Satan depending on your preference, but the man is lethal with a month to prepare. Looking forward to 2012, can Texas join the BCS Party?
Talking points:
* Mario Edwards cuts his list down to 3. Texas, FSU and LSU. Edwards finished his FSU official visit a few hours ago.
* DGB cuts his list? Is Alabama out? Is it down to Texas and Arkansas. I'll break it down for y'all.
* Junior Day is shaping up to be huge. 2013 DeSoto RB Dontre Wilson was invited today. I'll have the complete list.
* Tyrone Swoopes appears to the QB in 2013.
* Texas looks out of state early in 2013. Two foreigners have Junior Day invites.
* Spring Ball is about a month away. Team rumblings, state of the program,what to expect in 2013 Spring Practice.
Sundays with Bill approached 600 responses last week. Time to shatter some records. Fire away.
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inside Texas says its a 2 horse race between Texas and arkansas
For DGB please tell us all you know
In The Morning To You
by horns1025 on Jan 15, 2012 4:43 PM CST via mobile reply actions
I agree with that assessment
Otis Kirk of Arkansas 247 and the Hook Em 247 staff have confirmed that is accurate.
Link to Otis Kirk story: http://www.arkansassports360.com/28633/otis-kirks-recruiting-360-with-football-season-over-arkansas-gears-up-for-national-signing-day
Kirk has covered Arkansas Athletics for over 20 years.
Two independent sources.
by billfromlaketravis on Jan 15, 2012 4:46 PM CST up reply actions
Texas offers what we can hope is an upward trajectory
Arkansas offers a more established and successful offensive system and staff. I’m happy Texas is apparently in the top two, because it has to be a tough sell to a star wideout right now.
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by burntorangehorn on Jan 15, 2012 4:59 PM CST up reply actions
The bright lights are quietly a factor
I think DGB will be a star wherever he goes, but would you rather be a star at Texas or Arkansas?
by billfromlaketravis on Jan 15, 2012 5:03 PM CST up reply actions
Well, if you're as tight with your brother as
DGB evidently is — and he’s a couple of hours away from Fayetteville compared to most of a day’s distance away in Austin — Arkansas is his call.
I’m intrigued by several different photo or video instances in which the younger brother was sporting UT attire. If he’s a UT fan, then maybe big brother joins us and the younger can be on campus in a few years. (As a student, I presume, not a student-athlete).
from what i understand
DGB’s brother was like a kid in a candy store on his visit they say he’s always liked Texas and that he really just loved being in Austin
In The Morning To You
by horns1025 on Jan 15, 2012 5:15 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
yeah, he did reportedly have a great time but the 2 biggest concerns remain.
1) Texas QB situation
2) Distance
by TheContractor on Jan 15, 2012 5:16 PM CST up reply actions
I will say it again
Do not discount his girl friend staying in Arkansas. Check out a few of his tweets about her – he seems to be head over heels with her.
"We're Texas. We don’t derive our value or self-definition from conference affiliation.
If that strikes people as cocky, so what? It’s also true. None of us will chant our conference’s name when we have an off year and Texas Tech wins their bowl game. Our definition of self comes from us – not our conference, not our rivals, not media perception.
If she loves him she will want what's best for him, not her
So, don’t think that just because ARK may be a bit more convenient that she would allow him to choose anything except what is the best fit for him. He seems really grounded and so I think that she must be a great young lady.
Whatever he chooses, I wish him the best. He really seems like a great kid and whichever school he picks will be lucky to have him.
We're Texas, We're not OK.
Teen age kids! Whew!
She has a schollie offer at a small school in Arky – I still say if Gail would offer her, we lock DGB! :-)
"We're Texas. We don’t derive our value or self-definition from conference affiliation.
If that strikes people as cocky, so what? It’s also true. None of us will chant our conference’s name when we have an off year and Texas Tech wins their bowl game. Our definition of self comes from us – not our conference, not our rivals, not media perception.
I'd like to see that
Don’t get me started on a women’s basketball coach making $1 million a year a Texas.
by billfromlaketravis on Jan 15, 2012 6:39 PM CST up reply actions
I don't mind the money
What I do not like is losing to the likes of Baylor, A&M and OU, not to mention Conn., etc.
We're Texas, We're not OK.
I'm Texas all the way, but the guy's gotta want to make sure that passes will reach him
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by burntorangehorn on Jan 15, 2012 5:11 PM CST up reply actions
let me ask ya something
Arkansas has a returning starter at QB. But he may not stay after 2012 (not sure of his class) so past next year no idea who will be QB meanwhile Texas has David Ash who looks to have potential to be a solid starter and brings in Connor Brewer who seems to have a great skill set. It looks like Texas is the better choice for the long term. Do you agree with that and do you think it will have a big impact on DGB’s decision?
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by horns1025 on Jan 15, 2012 5:17 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
i am sure DGB and family are thinking about that, but also, im sure Arky has someone in the wings also. We have a pretty good highscholler but our backup right now is still Case who could never get it to DGB. I dont know who Arky has but my guess is that he is better than Case. Thats what Arky is sayin to DGB
by TheContractor on Jan 15, 2012 5:20 PM CST up reply actions
Why do you say Texas looks like the better choice for the long term?
Ash hasn’t looked very good at all, and Arkansas has some pretty nice depth coming up behind Wilson.
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by burntorangehorn on Jan 15, 2012 5:20 PM CST up reply actions
i think the premise of Ash hasnt looked good is wrong. He was a true freshman and did throw some very nice balls vs Cal. not his fault that Mike Davis cant catch.
by TheContractor on Jan 15, 2012 5:21 PM CST up reply actions
Explain this depth behind Wilson
I don’t want to call you out, but you are the only person I have ever heard say that they like the depth behind Wilson.
by billfromlaketravis on Jan 15, 2012 5:23 PM CST up reply actions
i dont know the depth behind Wilson, but if I am arky, i can make the case that Arky depth is better than Texas depth.
by TheContractor on Jan 15, 2012 5:24 PM CST up reply actions
their depth hasent won a Bowl game or played a college game as starter
David Ash has done it. And now will get a full spring and summer getting the starter reps
In The Morning To You
by horns1025 on Jan 15, 2012 5:23 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Bingo
I don’t think Arkansas has a QB behind Wilson that has started a game or played significant snaps in a game. It’s all guess work and projections.
by billfromlaketravis on Jan 15, 2012 5:25 PM CST up reply actions
I agree with yall , but lets say, for arguments sake, that DGB&family feel that the QB situation at UT and Arky are equal, than we are not having this conversation. He would commit to Texas tomorrow.
by TheContractor on Jan 15, 2012 5:26 PM CST up reply actions
i think he'll still commit to Texas
Our outlook is brighter we look to be in the Title hunt in 2013 Arkansas….let’s be honest they only got as many wins as they did because the SEC was awful last year plus Texas is a NFL factory id be really selling the whole “look no matter who wins the Super Bowl a Longhorn will be getting a ring” thing
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by horns1025 on Jan 15, 2012 5:49 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
I really hope u are right!! Game changer from day 1
by TheContractor on Jan 15, 2012 5:49 PM CST up reply actions
I think Arkansas is a rising program as well
Of course they’re kind of stuck in Fayetteville, and play in a pretty rough division, but they’ll have their chances.
I do think if DGB’s priorities place a high emphasis on going somewhere with a good chance of reaching a BCS title game, Texas is probably a better bet.
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by burntorangehorn on Jan 15, 2012 6:20 PM CST up reply actions
exactly
we are the better bet. besides ill respectfully disagree about Arkansas being a rising program. they’ve never won a SEC Championship in fact they’ve only won their division once. they only have great years when the rest of the division is bad. and LSU and Alabama are gonna keep them from winning the SEC for quite awhile
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I'm a big Petrino believer
I think the guy’s a lights-out coach, although he’s also a lights-out asshat. It’s not a program that’ll draw recruits and have facilities like LSU or Alabama, but I think they’re perfectly capable of pulling an Auburn and gunning for an SEC championship, if not a BCS championship. They’re still building.
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by burntorangehorn on Jan 15, 2012 7:43 PM CST up reply actions
Ash didn't win a bowl game
He was part of a team that won the bowl game. He wasn’t exactly one of the better players in it. It’s actually kind of ridiculous that he won OMVP over Keenan Allen.
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by burntorangehorn on Jan 15, 2012 5:40 PM CST up reply actions
If Davis catches those balls
Ash’s first half wouldn’t look as bad as it did. That being said, he had a very nice second half. Enough to win without a rushing game.
Brandon Mitchell is a dual-threat guy who has also looked good in limited passing situations
But among other candidates, they also have Brandon Allen, a HS star who redshirted this year and will be a RS-soph by the time Wilson is gone. A top-five national QB who at that point will be in his third season under Petrino? How could that not be seen as better than what Texas has at the position?
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by burntorangehorn on Jan 15, 2012 5:34 PM CST up reply actions
Key word limited passing situations
It’s all guess work until they play in a game situation. DeSean Hales has looked like a superstar in practices at Texas.
by billfromlaketravis on Jan 15, 2012 5:36 PM CST up reply actions
Right, but the point is that Texas has less to offer
Limited passing situations include game time. Take a look at Mitchell’s performances so far. But more importantly, not that Petrino has proven that he can manufacture great QBs, whereas the Texas staff has not.
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by burntorangehorn on Jan 15, 2012 5:39 PM CST up reply actions
Well you seem convinced
We won’t know who’s better until 2013.
by billfromlaketravis on Jan 15, 2012 5:40 PM CST up reply actions
I'm just evaluating objectively, rather from the pro-Texas slant
Texas hasn’t shown any reason DGB should be higher on the post-2012 QB situation in Austin than in Fayetteville.
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by burntorangehorn on Jan 15, 2012 5:41 PM CST up reply actions
FWIW
Bryan Harsin did develop Kellen Moore. That should count for something.
I'm still not convinced it was Harsin, not Petersen
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by burntorangehorn on Jan 15, 2012 7:44 PM CST up reply actions
Zabransky was an absolute zero when he started at Boise.
He did OK. Kellen Moore is the winningest college football QB ever.
Zabransky, Dinwiddie, etc.
That system was fully established long before Harsin took the title of QB coach.
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by burntorangehorn on Jan 15, 2012 7:58 PM CST up reply actions
There's something to be said for not screwing things up.
I told the people of my district that I would serve them as faithfully as I had done; but if not ... you may all go to hell, and I will go to Texas. -- Davey Crockett
by pleaseplaykindle on Jan 15, 2012 8:04 PM CST up reply actions
Yep, the hope is that he can actually establish, not just perpetuate
He did a good job of perpetuating at BSU, but never had to create or establish a system to any extent. The challenge he faces at Texas is much tougher.
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by burntorangehorn on Jan 15, 2012 8:09 PM CST up reply actions
I think I would disagree with this. At least, I don’t know how we could possibly know this.
but never had to create or establish a system to any extent.
While there’s definitely room for improvement within our offense this year, losing your starting, second, and third tailbacks is going to be rough on any OC whose ground game is so important. I don’t think it’s too much of a stretch to imagine that our team wins a couple of more games with any of our starting three tailbacks healthy the whole season.
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by pleaseplaykindle on Jan 15, 2012 8:17 PM CST up reply actions
What do you mean you don't know how we could know this?
Texas is the first job where Harsin’s had to turn the key instead of just hopping in a running car, as was the case when he was promoted to OC/QB coach at BSU.
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by burntorangehorn on Jan 15, 2012 8:29 PM CST up reply actions
That's a good point; he's definitely new to being solely responsible.
Oh. Aggies, I apologize; I forgot you were there. You may go now.
by pleaseplaykindle on Jan 15, 2012 8:38 PM CST up reply actions
Well, I mean it's more than that
He was the OC and QB coach at BSU, like at Texas, but at Texas he has to go through the process of starting up the system. At BSU he basically inherited a turnkey operation.
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by burntorangehorn on Jan 15, 2012 10:16 PM CST up reply actions
Very true.
And in particular, I believe the incoming offensive coaches were all aghast at the lack of talent on the offensive side of the ball. There’s a lot of work to be done here in terms of talent evaluation as well as scheme.
I, like you, wonder if Bryan Harsin is up for it. I’m a firm believer in talent overriding scheme. Generalizing (and ranting now) a bit here, but if I had to choose between quality players and quality coaches (false dichotomy, yes) I would choose the players. I wonder to what degree Harsin and the rest of the offensive staff were surprised by the dearth of offensive talent, and I wonder how long it will take them to infuse our program with it. Based on the stuff billfromlaketravis has been writing, it looks like we’re well on our way.
Oh. Aggies, I apologize; I forgot you were there. You may go now.
by pleaseplaykindle on Jan 15, 2012 10:33 PM CST up reply actions
There's a lot that goes into developing a QB
whether the offense is installed or not. There is no evidence to back up this claim:
whereas the Texas staff has not.
No evidence to back up what claim?
That the Texas staff hasn’t developed a QB? Well, there’s the argument that Harsin developed Moore, but again, I remain unconvinced that Petersen wasn’t the driving force for BSU.
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by burntorangehorn on Jan 16, 2012 11:27 AM CST up reply actions
No evidence to back up a claim
that Harsin and “staff”, as you mention, can develop a QB. If you are referring to ONLY Harsin, then I point Moore and Zabransky. Of course, you will say whatever you need to in order to solidify your argument, but Harsin was the OC AND QB coach at Boise.
For somebody who is so pessimistic and only looking for the truth, as you say, this quote makes me laugh:
I remain unconvinced that Petersen wasn’t the driving force for BSU.
There is NO truth to back up that claim. The TRUTH is that Harsin handled the offense AND was the QB coach.
ughh I hate that
Moore broke Colt’s record. I think Moore was a very good QB but put him in Colt’s position for 4 years against solid Big 12 competition and I doubt he wins as much as Colt did
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by 04'-05'-glorydays on Jan 15, 2012 8:25 PM CST up reply actions
our quality of wins is a lot higher that BSU. But thats true for most AQ vs nonAQ. good point.
by TheContractor on Jan 15, 2012 8:26 PM CST up reply actions
Plus Colt had Greg Davis as an OC.
That’s good be good for a few more wins.
Oh. Aggies, I apologize; I forgot you were there. You may go now.
by pleaseplaykindle on Jan 15, 2012 8:26 PM CST up reply actions
????
Davis was part of the reason the Longhorns won so many games in the Colt era. He oversaw the offense for the most successful winning stretch in school history.
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by burntorangehorn on Jan 15, 2012 8:30 PM CST up reply actions
Relax. It's a joke.
Oh. Aggies, I apologize; I forgot you were there. You may go now.
by pleaseplaykindle on Jan 15, 2012 8:35 PM CST up reply actions
Sorry, I had switched off my sense of humor
Damn medication.
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by burntorangehorn on Jan 16, 2012 8:24 AM CST up reply actions
No worries man
I’m generally not so harsh on Greg Davis myself.
Oh. Aggies, I apologize; I forgot you were there. You may go now.
by pleaseplaykindle on Jan 16, 2012 8:43 AM CST up reply actions
I think we are both agreeing that the depth is unknown. We dont know how good Ash will be. All we know is that Wilson is good and has 1 year left at Ark.
We have Case and Connor , they have Allen. Arky can and probably is making a case that they not only have a current starter that is better but also the Arky depth is better. I am not saying Arky depth is better. But you can see where DGB would have to and is thinking about that.
by TheContractor on Jan 15, 2012 5:41 PM CST up reply actions
Most current Junior Day list:
Confirmed visitors:
QB, Tyrone Swoopes, Whitewright
WR, Jake Oliver, Dallas Jesuit
WR, Ra’Shaad Samples, Dallas Skyline
OL, Darius James, Killeen Harker Heights
OL, Kent Perkins, Richardson Lake Highlands
OL, Ishmael Wilson, Dallas Bishop Dunne
OL/DL, Jake Raulerson, Celina <—————— **also visiting Jan. 27th-28th
OL/DL, A’Shawn Robinson, FW Arlington Heights
DT, Isaiah Golden, Elysian Fields
DT, Justin Manning, Dallas Kimball
DT, Vincent Taylor, San Antonio Madison
S, Kameron Miles, West Mesquite
ATH, Ricky Seals-Jones, Sealy
Maybes:
DE, DJ Ward, Lawton (Lawton, OK)
S, Marcell Harris, South Lake (Groveland, FL)
RB, Dontre Wilson, DeSoto
by billfromlaketravis on Jan 15, 2012 4:43 PM CST reply actions
Percentage chance that Raulerson commits at JD1?
Ballpark?
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by pleaseplaykindle on Jan 15, 2012 4:47 PM CST up reply actions
Raulerson
No percentages, but it’s trending Texas’ way right now. I don’t think Texas brings him early unless they expect an early commit.
by billfromlaketravis on Jan 15, 2012 4:51 PM CST up reply actions
another guy to add to the list is Josh Thomas the OT from Evangel in Shreveport, LA.
by TheContractor on Jan 15, 2012 5:23 PM CST up reply actions
Most important group out of that list is...
Raulerson, James, Samples, and RSJ in my opinion. I think James might overtake Espinosa if he isn’t careful. That kid is a Center to build around for sure. RSJ has a good shot at being a Playmaker!
I like that Raulerson is going the Brewer route and I would LOVE for him to commit early but I just don’t see it happening. It’s a Texas Florida race and I think he will give each their time to pitch for him before he decides. The kid isn’t dumb by any means and knows he can play where he wants.
Raulerson, Perkins, James, RSJ, Manning, Robinson, Harris.
Those are definite offers!!
by TheContractor on Jan 15, 2012 5:50 PM CST up reply actions
i dont think Samples deserves a offer just yet
by TheContractor on Jan 15, 2012 5:58 PM CST up reply actions
Samples can play
He outplayed Thomas Johnson in both Skyline games I saw in person this past season.
by billfromlaketravis on Jan 15, 2012 5:59 PM CST up reply actions
great to hear, and we do have an opening at the slot!!
by TheContractor on Jan 15, 2012 6:00 PM CST up reply actions
I think TJ decommitting was more a TJ thing than a Skyline thing
by billfromlaketravis on Jan 15, 2012 6:00 PM CST up reply actions
man, i hope ur right! i have no idea what happened but i hope we keep skyline as a pipeline. and great to hear that Samples played better than TJ!!
by TheContractor on Jan 15, 2012 6:02 PM CST up reply actions
Dallas Skyline
Is it just me, or are the kids from that school just flaky as hell? It seems they are always pulling last minute switches or acting like divas. I know they are “good” but it seems they drama queens to me. So, teh question is,
Are Skyline kids worth the extra attention they require?
We're Texas, We're not OK.
I think every situation is a little different
Samples is a coaches’ son. His father should be well aware of the 7 on 7 circuit nonsense. I think he’ll keep a tight lid on his son.
by billfromlaketravis on Jan 15, 2012 6:35 PM CST up reply actions
I think the first 10-15 guys invited are likely offers
by billfromlaketravis on Jan 15, 2012 5:58 PM CST up reply actions
i could see them all getting an offer. the listed 6 are no brainers, along with Morgan, who has yet to be offered a JD visit.
by TheContractor on Jan 15, 2012 5:59 PM CST up reply actions
i dont like Donte Wilson recruiting TJ to Oregon. Would love him to be at Texas!!
what u think about that twitter exchange?
by TheContractor on Jan 15, 2012 6:00 PM CST up reply actions
Oregon might be out in front right now
WIlson is visiting Oregon during his spring break. We’ll see what happens.
by billfromlaketravis on Jan 15, 2012 6:01 PM CST up reply actions
2013 QB
Bill,
Who do you think would be the best fit at QB: Swoopes, or Barrett?
by Horns Up in St Louis on Jan 15, 2012 4:47 PM CST reply actions
I like Swoopes better
He’s going to need at least 2 years to get ready, but he’s the better move long term.
by billfromlaketravis on Jan 15, 2012 4:52 PM CST up reply actions
I would agree. Sometimes, you gotta aim high
At least try to find the next Vince, or Cam Newton.
Only thing that bothers me about Swoopes is his level of competition. The skills are obvious, but he hasn’t had to deal with a pass rush, a 250-pound linebacker, an NFL-to-be safety. As we saw with Chris Jones and the running back from the Class A school, the Big 12 is a long way from Friday Night Lights in front of 600 people.
I agree
2A to the Big 12 is a HUGE jump.
by billfromlaketravis on Jan 15, 2012 5:00 PM CST up reply actions
2 years to prepare?
Has to do with the level of competition he faced in HS?
"Risks Surround everything worth having, hide from risks and you hide from its rewards..............SUCCESS"
Swoopes is raw
I think he’ll need some time. Competition is factor, but Swoopes needs time to develop. I think Swoopes has the keys to the car for the next year at least.
by billfromlaketravis on Jan 15, 2012 4:59 PM CST up reply actions
Swoopes' development
I think Harsin is pretty confident he can get Ash good and ready. This seems to be why he wants Swoopes. Ash develops well, Brewer develops and steps in, Swoopes has time to develop and have 2-3 years of good play at UT.
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by TexasGarcia37 on Jan 15, 2012 4:48 PM CST via mobile reply actions
Also, for those of us that don't know (i.e. me)
What goes on at Junior Days? Are they camps? Visits? Jamarkus McFarland-type parties with booze, strippers, and bags of cash?
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by pleaseplaykindle on Jan 15, 2012 4:49 PM CST reply actions
The girls were romancing each other
The attitude of people at the party was that everyone should drink or not come to the party. Drugs were prevalent with no price attached."
by kcmorse on Jan 15, 2012 4:52 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Junior Days
Basically it’s like a select camp. Recruits get in shorts and work out for the coaches and visit the 40. There could be a lunch involved. I’m not sure what and what is not permissible.
by billfromlaketravis on Jan 15, 2012 4:55 PM CST up reply actions
I miss the J Mac days
He compared that with a house party hosted by a sorority at Oklahoma.
"Drinks were plentiful, but not to the extent they were" at the Dallas party, he wrote. "Some people were tipsy, but in control of themselves."
He described the atmosphere as pleasant and added: "Some people who attend the University of Oklahoma seem to represent different values than some people who attend the University of Texas."
Girls romancing each other
Is one of the better recruiting quotes of all time.
by billfromlaketravis on Jan 15, 2012 5:01 PM CST up reply actions
That and...
“I slept they coaches” is another great one!
by Hippie Killer on Jan 15, 2012 6:49 PM CST up reply actions
Why the hell would DGB want to play somewhere, where he'll have a known quantity for 1 yr
Then have to get use to the next guy
Have you SEEN our known quantities?
Just joking (kind of)
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by pleaseplaykindle on Jan 15, 2012 4:51 PM CST up reply actions
DGB
I don’t agree with Tyler Wilson staying another year is a deciding factor for DGB. Arkansas is very thin behind Wilson. Texas isn’t much better, but they have 2 QBs with starting experience, and a freshman QB who won a bowl game.
by billfromlaketravis on Jan 15, 2012 4:56 PM CST up reply actions
Arkansas offers a greatly superior QB situation
Wilson has just one year left, but the depth has plenty of upside and experience in the system, which. Can’t be said of any QB Texas has to offer.
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by burntorangehorn on Jan 15, 2012 5:03 PM CST up reply actions
Some evaluators would disagree with your assessment of the Arkansas QBs after WIlson
There’s no arguing that it’s a superior offensive system at this point though.
by billfromlaketravis on Jan 15, 2012 5:18 PM CST up reply actions
Big Cigar, I believe, told IT the other day
that additional attrition is coming. Thoughts?
Second question: We’ve about wrapped up 2012 recruiting, but if we end up with 27, 28 signings, aren’t we ALMOST ASSURING some of those players they’re going to get buried in the depth chart? Soon. And permanently. Should we be a bit more reserved about bringing in this big of a class?
Attrition
Honestly, I don’t like to speculate on what guys might leave the program. They’re kids most of them and there are a lot of deeply personal factors involved.
As far as candidates, look at the list of upperclassman that aren’t playing.
by billfromlaketravis on Jan 15, 2012 4:58 PM CST up reply actions
Look hard at the Oline depth chart...
and you can find a few candidates
"We are who we are. People say what they say. The outcome is the outcome. We are proud of ourselves." -DeLoss Dodds 9/21/2011
Big Class
I would submit that both Diaz and HarsinWhite would ideally use a larger number of players than has historically been used at Texas. I feel your point, but maybe when we get going the rotations are on a different level.
I believe you are correct.
I really like the idea of using larger numbes of players. It’s good for so many reasons, including recruiting.
"Risks Surround everything worth having, hide from risks and you hide from its rewards..............SUCCESS"
Watching another action movie masterpiece
Kill Bill vol. 1
Cut!
No. No. No, man.
You're making me fall asleep,
to death bro! -Ghandi
by TexasGarcia37 on Jan 15, 2012 4:53 PM CST via mobile reply actions
A Longhorn will get a SB ring
Texans were the last team without a Longhorn on the squad.
Cut!
No. No. No, man.
You're making me fall asleep,
to death bro! -Ghandi
by TexasGarcia37 on Jan 15, 2012 4:58 PM CST via mobile reply actions
which 'Horns
play for New England?
"Three things can happen when you pass and two of 'em are bad."
-- Darrell K. Royal
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by 04'-05'-glorydays on Jan 15, 2012 8:32 PM CST up reply actions
Kyle Hix, but he's on IR
"Anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that 'my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.'"
― Isaac Asimov
by burntorangehorn on Jan 15, 2012 8:33 PM CST up reply actions
thanks
and if Baltimore wins, 4 rings
"Three things can happen when you pass and two of 'em are bad."
-- Darrell K. Royal
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by 04'-05'-glorydays on Jan 15, 2012 8:36 PM CST up reply actions
FSM forbid Baltimore should win the Super Bowl
I wouldn’t want to live here (Baltimore/DC suburbs) anymore. Baltimore and Steelers fans are insufferable enough as it is.
"Anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that 'my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.'"
― Isaac Asimov
by burntorangehorn on Jan 15, 2012 9:54 PM CST up reply actions
actually they had one
He is just IR’d…
Karate? The Dane Cook of martial arts?
by Rocket94 on Jan 15, 2012 8:44 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Mario Eds
What’s the word on how his other visits went? He has yet to see LSU, right?
you ain't a beauty but hey you're all right.
Mario Edwards
His father told the outlets that his visit went great. Spent time with other commits. Nothing earth shattering. Still scheduled to take a visit to LSU next week.
by billfromlaketravis on Jan 15, 2012 5:05 PM CST up reply actions
Mack will most likely do the in home right before Signing Day
by billfromlaketravis on Jan 15, 2012 5:14 PM CST up reply actions
shoot if Mack has a in home visit they will be at Texas
Guy could sell water to a fish
In The Morning To You
by horns1025 on Jan 15, 2012 5:52 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
I think Mack gets in home visits with both
I’m having some trouble with the Edwards logic right now. If he was wide open, he would have decommited from FSU by now.
by billfromlaketravis on Jan 15, 2012 5:53 PM CST up reply actions
i agree with you.
Fsu would hold a ship for him. I think Fsu is still his top but we have made a lot of ground.
by TheContractor on Jan 15, 2012 5:54 PM CST up reply actions
Texas is confident
I think we agree that Giles, Diaz and Davis know what they’re doing. If they didn’t think they could land Edwards they would have offered another DE by now.
by billfromlaketravis on Jan 15, 2012 5:55 PM CST up reply actions
without a doubt. I think we are right there with them. As stated last week or earlier, the video session with MEJr and his dad was huge by Diaz!
by TheContractor on Jan 15, 2012 5:56 PM CST up reply actions
I get the sense
Very few players who decommit later recommit. I’m pretty sure a decommit means it’s over for that school. As long as FSU’s in the race, I’d be surprised to see a decommit. That could go to signing day.
I'd feel better if Edwards decommitted
I don’t see that happening at this time.
by billfromlaketravis on Jan 15, 2012 6:05 PM CST up reply actions
You have nailed it
Every official is like a mini-vacation for a small town kid like him. I can’t say I blame him for having these good times.
But, in the end, he goes where daddy tells him to go.
"We're Texas. We don’t derive our value or self-definition from conference affiliation.
If that strikes people as cocky, so what? It’s also true. None of us will chant our conference’s name when we have an off year and Texas Tech wins their bowl game. Our definition of self comes from us – not our conference, not our rivals, not media perception.
I LOL'd - well played.
Guy could sell water to a fish
"We're Texas. We don’t derive our value or self-definition from conference affiliation.
If that strikes people as cocky, so what? It’s also true. None of us will chant our conference’s name when we have an off year and Texas Tech wins their bowl game. Our definition of self comes from us – not our conference, not our rivals, not media perception.
Lsu in the past week has had some player/coaching issues and might be a bit rockey right now. Good for us! Stuff btw players about how Jefferson wasnt focused and at Harra’s gambling/drinking late nights!.
by TheContractor on Jan 15, 2012 5:11 PM CST up reply actions
DJ Ward, Lawton OK
Please give some backround, etc. I am not familiar with him.
"Risks Surround everything worth having, hide from risks and you hide from its rewards..............SUCCESS"
D.J. Ward
Film: http://www.hudl.com/athlete/479101/dj-ward
Quick evaluation: I really like his length and wingspan. Good instinct, reads plays well. Disruptive. I think he’s a SDE all the way. Fits Manny’s system. I don’t think the 4.59 40 isn’t legit, but he’s plenty fast. Reminds me of a more polished Ridgeway. Has the frame to carry good weight in the 270 range. Can play inside or outside.
by billfromlaketravis on Jan 15, 2012 5:07 PM CST up reply actions
who do you feel should be invited to a Junior day and isnt so far?
for me:
1) Christian Morgan – TE
2) Baltimore – S
3) if Naashon Hughes – OLB – was supposed to be a guy we were going to give a ship to then he needs to be there.
4) Barrett – QB – loves UT and we need to see more of how he does in shorts also
5) Davis – CB
Early snubs
I really don’t like Morgan being left out so far. Texas really needs what Morgan brings in my opinion. Size, blocking and good hands at TE.
I’m OK with Miles over Baltimore right now.
Hughes will get invited at some point I think.
I think Barrett should be invited to second Junior Day.
Davis is head scratcher. Akina might evaluate the position more. I think Antwuan Davis’ back injury could be a factor. He LOVES Texas.
by billfromlaketravis on Jan 15, 2012 5:11 PM CST up reply actions
Morgan is one of my most fav guys in 2013, pure football player and a TE that NFL teams have!
I want some of these invited to JD2, evaluate them in person.
We dont need to offer many of these guys ’ships right now but bring them in!
Didnt know about a back injury, that sux. I still want him at JD2 and tell him we will evaluate him his Sr year.
by TheContractor on Jan 15, 2012 5:15 PM CST up reply actions
Davis
I’d like to see him at one of the Junior Days to work out and see how healthy he is.
by billfromlaketravis on Jan 15, 2012 5:16 PM CST up reply actions
I think Chevorski Collins is scheduled to be there also right?
oh and add Brett Wade – MLB to that list!!
Thanks Contractor
I think both commit early if offered. I love Wade’s skill set. Let the apprenticeship behind Edmond begin.
I like Collins a lot at safety.
by billfromlaketravis on Jan 15, 2012 5:13 PM CST up reply actions
I saw Lagow play against Allen this year, I didn't see anything special
I think Junior Day is shifting away from an automatic offer day to another chance to evaluate recruits. Most programs handle it this way.
by billfromlaketravis on Jan 15, 2012 5:16 PM CST up reply actions
Best-case scenario
We sign DGB and Mario Edwards. With Thomas Johnson’s decommitment, who would be the third signee to finish the 2012 class?
Worst-case scenario, we spend too much time of DBG and MEj and get neither. Who are the three kids we might finish?
you ain't a beauty but hey you're all right.
Finishing the 2012 class
I think Texas is all in with Edwards and DGB.
I think they’ll take Vincent Hobbs regardless. They’re not bringing Hobbs in on the 20th for milk and Sally’s cookies. Texas will offer.
by billfromlaketravis on Jan 15, 2012 5:21 PM CST up reply actions
personally i dont like the Hobbs offer but yeah, i hear thats the consensus. We have enough TEs right now and add 2 (RSJ and Morgan) and we are in great shape! Hobbs is not needed and probably wont play as a true freshman. I think its a bad decision.
by TheContractor on Jan 15, 2012 5:23 PM CST up reply actions
Hobbs
Texas should only take him if he can contribute next year. That’s a very tall order. I think the coaches want another TE in the program to get a solution at the position started. This is Harsin’s call, not Chambers. You have to feel better about it knowing that.
by billfromlaketravis on Jan 15, 2012 5:27 PM CST up reply actions
yeah, that does help. but we have DJ, Luke, mcfarland, Matthews, Terrell. we have enough depth.
Odds are that Jones is done at UT.
by TheContractor on Jan 15, 2012 5:31 PM CST up reply actions
Doubt they'd offer Hobbs
if they weren’t convinced he could play.
What’s this huge number of TEs we have? Graham, Irby, Howard are gone. Matthews, Grant and Poehlmann are seniors. Dom Jones was ineligible for the Holiday — is he still in the program?
We have the two kids — Terrell has played a bit, McFarland redshirted. That’s all we have back for 2013. Unless my old-guy memory is failing me. Again.
I agree it's getting much thinner at TE
The staff has allegedly told Hobbs that they want him to play right away. We’ll see what happens. This might be a Texas needs a body now situation. I like the 2013 TEs much better. Hell there are much better OOS TEs in the 2012 class that Texas decided not to pursue.
by billfromlaketravis on Jan 15, 2012 5:33 PM CST up reply actions
Tight end is kind of a microcosm of the entire roster
This new staff, many of them hired 12-13 months ago, needed to accomplish two things over the past year:
1. Allow some of the upperclassmen to use up eligibility (the seniors) or urge a few limited producers to give up the game with a year’s eligibility remaining. (I can think of two; there might be more).
2. Get an extended look at what was left, and recruit to fill the holes. Also, to urge the non-producers among the underclassmen that everyone would be better served if they transferred.
Not a fun deal, no doubt. But the expectations are higher than 8-5.
Attrition
A lot of guys stayed because of the new coaching staff. They wanted on more try out for playing time. Those that have left haven’t played. I can’t fault any player for leaving to pursue playing time elsewhere.
by billfromlaketravis on Jan 15, 2012 5:54 PM CST up reply actions
Mr. BFLT
Don’t know if you have answered this before but when were at the University of Texas. Full disclosure: I was there 1990-1996.
Cut!
No. No. No, man.
You're making me fall asleep,
to death bro! -Ghandi
by TexasGarcia37 on Jan 15, 2012 5:21 PM CST via mobile reply actions
2004-2009
Great time to be there, athletics-wise. I was there from 1989-1993.
by Horns Up in St Louis on Jan 15, 2012 5:27 PM CST up reply actions
Looks like we were contemporaries
We didn’t have the success that they did. But I bet we had more fun. I played in a touch football game at DKR once. That would never happen now. Plus, we got to run on the field at DKR after a win.
Cut!
No. No. No, man.
You're making me fall asleep,
to death bro! -Ghandi
by TexasGarcia37 on Jan 15, 2012 5:39 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
back in the good old days......
I got to see Earl play. Plus we played touch football at DKR every Saturday. And Austin had no traffic to speak of.
man, I feel old all of a sudden…
So you had a load of fun on saturdays
Interesting that you seem rather level headed for the success you had while at UT. Not to generalize but it seems like a lot of your contempories have a huge sense of entitlement when it comes to winning and Texas.
Cut!
No. No. No, man.
You're making me fall asleep,
to death bro! -Ghandi
by TexasGarcia37 on Jan 15, 2012 5:35 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Fun on Saturdays
I didn’t have a lot of fun on Saturdays, until my last two years. First two years of engineering school were pretty tough. I agree, after suffering through the David McWilliams and John Mackovic eras, fans today are very spoiled by Mack Brown.
by Horns Up in St Louis on Jan 15, 2012 5:46 PM CST up reply actions
This was meant for BFLT
You and I saw really bad Texas football under McWilliams and Macovick. The talent level of those teams compared to Coach Brown’s teams is ludicrous.
Cut!
No. No. No, man.
You're making me fall asleep,
to death bro! -Ghandi
by TexasGarcia37 on Jan 15, 2012 6:04 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Your a youngun
I thought you were much older. Since you are so much wiser.
Wrangler….86
We're Texas, We're not OK.
me too
hence the “Mr.”
Cut!
No. No. No, man.
You're making me fall asleep,
to death bro! -Ghandi
by TexasGarcia37 on Jan 15, 2012 7:38 PM CST up reply actions
damn, man you got a “Mr!”
getting some respect young man!! haha
by TheContractor on Jan 15, 2012 5:43 PM CST up reply actions
I wasn't asked but I want to brag.
2004-2011 (I Van Wilder’ed the fuck out of college).
Saw all of Vince, all of Durant, all of Cat, and all of Colt. And, sadly, most of Gilbert.
I told the people of my district that I would serve them as faithfully as I had done; but if not ... you may all go to hell, and I will go to Texas. -- Davey Crockett
by pleaseplaykindle on Jan 15, 2012 8:00 PM CST up reply actions
Me too same years...
"We are who we are. People say what they say. The outcome is the outcome. We are proud of ourselves." -DeLoss Dodds 9/21/2011
So when you say you saw all of Cat...
oh never mind.
Because being a Texas fan means never having to say you're sorry.
by dukeoforange on Jan 15, 2012 10:16 PM CST up reply actions
Haha
and yet, only “most” of Gilbert.
Oh. Aggies, I apologize; I forgot you were there. You may go now.
by pleaseplaykindle on Jan 15, 2012 10:34 PM CST up reply actions
Draft
Where is it looking like Manny Acho, Keenan Robinson, and Keeston Randall get drafted?
What are the chances that Mack’s eventual successor is already on the staff now?
Would you happen to know a guy named Tony Oakford? He’s from Lake Travis and he’s my boss at Rudy’s in denton. I know it a slim chance but I thought I’d ask. Thanks
Draft
No I don’t know your boss. Very cool that he’s a Cavs fan though.
I think Randall is a second round pick unless he destroys his senior day. He can play nose for somebody, that could push him into the first round.
Robinson is the 2nd to 3rd round guy in my opinion.
Acho won’t test off the charts so I think he’s a middle round pick.
I know the decision makers at Texas really like Manny Diaz. I don’t think it’s a head coach in waiting situation, but I think he’s easily the most likely candidate on staff. His media savvy is off the charts.
by billfromlaketravis on Jan 15, 2012 5:30 PM CST up reply actions
I am sure UT will want a HC that has HC experience. So the odds that he is on the current staff is not high at all.
I think Mack's successor will have head coaching experience.
by billfromlaketravis on Jan 15, 2012 5:31 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I'm standing by my Petersen theory
It makes sense. Petersen keeps turning down jobs…BIG jobs. Harsin comes here and Major is Co-OC with him…aka training in the system. Austin fits well for what Petersen is looking for and Mack has a great relationship with him. When Mack retires, Harsin goes back (I think he is still not buying a house hint hint), and Petersen takes over here with Major at OC. It just makes sense
Y’all love percentages. I’m starting to feel better about DGB than Mario Edwards. Texas is in the final 2-3 for both. We’ll see what happens on Signing Day.
Texas is all in on both right now. Unless they pursue another DE or WR, Texas is confident with both.
by billfromlaketravis on Jan 15, 2012 5:39 PM CST up reply actions
It'd be amazing to haul both those guys
You’re talking two guys who could each have a legitimate claim to being the #1-overall recruit in the nation. That’s incredible. Throw in Malcom Brown, Jonathan Gray, Cayleb Jones, etc., and that’s one amazing class.
"Anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that 'my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.'"
― Isaac Asimov
by burntorangehorn on Jan 15, 2012 5:44 PM CST up reply actions
If Mario goes elsewhere, we still got a shot to get Magee? We keeping in touch with him? I doubt it but i can hope.
Also, Corey Coleman down to a 5% chance, right?
just trying to throw the % out there that people love!!
by TheContractor on Jan 15, 2012 5:46 PM CST up reply actions
Texas and Magee have gone different ways
There are rumors of grade concerns with Magee. He’s could be a good one.
by billfromlaketravis on Jan 15, 2012 6:24 PM CST up reply actions
Is there a longer term plan in place to keep Diaz long term? Is it possible he becomes the favorite over Peterson to replace Mack in a couple of years?
by shnsajax on Jan 15, 2012 5:43 PM CST via mobile reply actions
Diaz
I think he’ll be paid very well at Texas. Near the top of the coordinators’ list. Manny allegedly just bought a pricey home in Austin. He seems committed to staying right now. I don’t think he should leave for anything less than a top 20-25 job, and if he gets that I’ll wish him well.
I think Texas would prefer a head coach with head man experience to replace Mack. Look at what Muschamp went through in his first year.
by billfromlaketravis on Jan 15, 2012 5:48 PM CST up reply actions
Diaz is different
He isn’t a former player. He looks at things very differently. It’s not all about money for him. Seeing how he came through the ranks, he values experience. That’s what I love about him…he knows he has the opportunity to see how Mack does it and still increase his skills as a DC. I’d say he stays at least 2 more years unless it’s a top 15-20 job.
Guys it looks like Marcell Harris is planning to be Texas' First Junior Day
HUGE.
by billfromlaketravis on Jan 15, 2012 5:44 PM CST reply actions
GREAT NEWS!!!!!!
3 visits to Austin from Florida before the start of his Sr year!!
i feel it will be UT vs UF battle for him!!!
by TheContractor on Jan 15, 2012 5:45 PM CST up reply actions
Harris
That’s a lot of visits for an OOS recruit before his senior season starts. Bodes well for Texas.
by billfromlaketravis on Jan 15, 2012 5:52 PM CST up reply actions
Silly question, I know, but I’ve been thinking about it all week.
Would you rather win a BCS bowl like the Fiesta (OSU) or get blown out in the NC like LSU? LSU seems to be taking a lot of flak so I’m on the fence.
I'd rather win games, period
Bama – OSU would have been an interesting game, but LSU deserved to be there.
by billfromlaketravis on Jan 15, 2012 5:48 PM CST up reply actions
Something I've noticed about our late recruiting . . .
When GG and Wood left, we offered Overstreet at QB
When Chris Jones left, we offered Sanders and Marcus Johnson.
When Bible was known to be leaving, we offered Brandon Moore
When Darius White left and Thomas Johnson left, we offered nobody. Is the staff that comfortable with DGB?
When it became obvious we weren’t going to get Peat or any of the other out of state offensive linemen, we offered Hawkins
Now, we’re set to offer Hobbs . . . telling me Dom Jones is leaving
All this sounds pretty much like lose one, add one
Dom Jones seems to be leaving. Seems like a good kid that struggled with academics.
As I said earlier, I think Texas is all in Edwards and DGB.
by billfromlaketravis on Jan 15, 2012 5:50 PM CST up reply actions
White
I think the coaches knew he was out for most during bowl practices.
by billfromlaketravis on Jan 15, 2012 5:51 PM CST up reply actions
I feel/HOPE after the shit he pulled vs Ksu he would be out asap. Wish i was as big as Cobbs, i would kicked his ass repeatedly!
I must have missed it, what did he do?
by GooberSmoocher on Jan 15, 2012 8:42 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Goober,
its reported that Darius White bad mouthed UT to DGB. and Cobbs stepped in and let DW have it. Had to be pulled away from DW by a few people. Happened the weekend DGB visited UT when we played Kst.
by TheContractor on Jan 15, 2012 9:10 PM CST up reply actions
The DGB situation as it appears to be
I think too many people are assuming on this situation.
Arky has Wilson back for 1 year. However, Bama and LSU are both going to be very good again next season. The depth behind Wilson has NOT been proven and assuming it is great or anything close is not viable. That’s like saying OSU will be good next year because of their system. It’s an unknown and nothing else. Also, DGB and family are tight knit and value that. Do you really think Patrino can pull off the family atmosphere? I doubt it. Wyatt and Mack are doing exactly what they need to do. Plus, Dorial’s little brother loves Texas. Never underestimate the power of family with kids like him. Ash showed some poise. You can bet Harsin has pitched very well in that department. The thing about our “system” is that if we have a good WR who is a go get anything type, we are going to play action to him often. Combine that with a sick running game and you have a dangerous offense. I put us at 70%.
I think comfort is a HUGE factor for the Beckhams
by billfromlaketravis on Jan 15, 2012 6:00 PM CST up reply actions
I'm not sure Bobby Petrino
and comfort have ever been used in the same sentence, so . . . .
i think the comfort level is better with DGB and Family at Texas than Arky, great for us!!
by TheContractor on Jan 15, 2012 6:03 PM CST up reply actions
Relationships with coaches could also be a big factor
by billfromlaketravis on Jan 15, 2012 6:05 PM CST up reply actions
dgb
Qb stuff is over-played. GT put as many 1st rnd wrs as OU recently. Both have had far more succes (D thomas of Den and calvin). If he is as good as people think it doesn’t matter where he goes. Spread offenses have not had great success prepairing kids for the NFL. Outside of Welker I can not think of any
by codaxx on Jan 15, 2012 6:51 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Jake Raulerson told Orangebloods that he's only going to one junior day
Draw your conclusions from there.
by billfromlaketravis on Jan 15, 2012 6:07 PM CST reply actions
Haha, Giles did tell him that he could play DE for him in 2011 season
by billfromlaketravis on Jan 15, 2012 6:08 PM CST up reply actions
i too feel DE is his best long term position!!
thought i want him playing FB in goal line/ short yardage situations!!
by TheContractor on Jan 15, 2012 6:09 PM CST up reply actions
Some like Raulerson at OG
I disagree.
by billfromlaketravis on Jan 15, 2012 6:22 PM CST up reply actions
WOW!!!!
for those who want a % -—- lets bump that up to 95%!!!!
If he does indeed commit to Texas, that would be an amazing start. I could see Perkins and James and Morgan commit that saturday also!!!
Does anyone here think that Edwards is playing us - ala Westerman?
"We're Texas. We don’t derive our value or self-definition from conference affiliation.
If that strikes people as cocky, so what? It’s also true. None of us will chant our conference’s name when we have an off year and Texas Tech wins their bowl game. Our definition of self comes from us – not our conference, not our rivals, not media perception.
I don't understand the comparison
If anything they’re opposites.
by billfromlaketravis on Jan 15, 2012 6:10 PM CST up reply actions
Mack's Curse shall rest on his shoulders!
"Risks Surround everything worth having, hide from risks and you hide from its rewards..............SUCCESS"
i dont see it that way at all. Maybe earlier but he is considering us. He had a great time a the banquet and we have a good chance!!
by TheContractor on Jan 15, 2012 6:10 PM CST up reply actions
also, i dont think westerman played us until the end. He found something that on surface seemed better.
by TheContractor on Jan 15, 2012 6:11 PM CST up reply actions
perhaps
Westerman was committed and something changed. Hmmmm. Oh, maybe firing half the staff. Seemed like a solid reason to look around. Not all kids trying to “play” us.
by codaxx on Jan 15, 2012 6:54 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
from what i remember, he wanted a different OL coach hired and that was an issue for him. Auburn buying a MNC def helped.
by TheContractor on Jan 15, 2012 7:05 PM CST up reply actions
Maybe I should have used Perrileaux as an example?
"We're Texas. We don’t derive our value or self-definition from conference affiliation.
If that strikes people as cocky, so what? It’s also true. None of us will chant our conference’s name when we have an off year and Texas Tech wins their bowl game. Our definition of self comes from us – not our conference, not our rivals, not media perception.
much better example!!! but my answer to that comparison is a definite NO
by TheContractor on Jan 15, 2012 6:11 PM CST up reply actions
Edwards
Is he enjoying the process? Sure. Will there probably be some signing day hoopla at Denton Ryan? Certainly. But no I don’t he’s playing Texas. Texas has a lot of contacts at Ryan to let them know what’s going on.
by billfromlaketravis on Jan 15, 2012 6:12 PM CST up reply actions
he won't play FSU either...
i don’t think he’ll play fsu either…if he goes til signing day he’s going to them. he won’t hang them out to dry. i don’t think his dad let’s it happen.
/been reading too many fsu recruiting sites
Denton Ryan
DLT is of course a Texas commit and one the recruiters for the defensive side of the 2012 class. DLT’s father is on staff at Ryan.
by billfromlaketravis on Jan 15, 2012 6:17 PM CST up reply actions
I would love to hear some feedback on Edwards visit to Florida State.
"We're Texas. We don’t derive our value or self-definition from conference affiliation.
If that strikes people as cocky, so what? It’s also true. None of us will chant our conference’s name when we have an off year and Texas Tech wins their bowl game. Our definition of self comes from us – not our conference, not our rivals, not media perception.
Beckham family
I was wondering if DGB chooses Texas would the family up root and move to Texas, especially with M.D Anderson being couple hours away for DGB brother and i’m sure Coach Beckham can find a high school coaching gig down here
I was thinking something similar about his brother's
needs possibly being better met here in Texas. M.D. Anderson is a wonderful facility.
"Risks Surround everything worth having, hide from risks and you hide from its rewards..............SUCCESS"
The Texas Medical Center, in Houston, is the best in the world.
"We're Texas. We don’t derive our value or self-definition from conference affiliation.
If that strikes people as cocky, so what? It’s also true. None of us will chant our conference’s name when we have an off year and Texas Tech wins their bowl game. Our definition of self comes from us – not our conference, not our rivals, not media perception.
as someone who works there, i agree with you completely. I have worked in Philly, SF, NY and Dallas and the med center for care is bad ass.
by TheContractor on Jan 15, 2012 6:28 PM CST up reply actions
Which Hospital? Mine were Methodist and Texas Womens.
"We're Texas. We don’t derive our value or self-definition from conference affiliation.
If that strikes people as cocky, so what? It’s also true. None of us will chant our conference’s name when we have an off year and Texas Tech wins their bowl game. Our definition of self comes from us – not our conference, not our rivals, not media perception.
i did my rotation at TIRR and Quentin Mease. Also, i worked at WHT while i was in school. I have worked at a lot of ALF more than hospitals.
by TheContractor on Jan 15, 2012 6:48 PM CST up reply actions
I thought about neurosurgery once
Then I came to my senses. :-) I was friends with a couple of collegues at TIRR – they were a helluva lot smarter than me.
You worked for Harris county – what did you do, if you dont mind me asking?
"We're Texas. We don’t derive our value or self-definition from conference affiliation.
If that strikes people as cocky, so what? It’s also true. None of us will chant our conference’s name when we have an off year and Texas Tech wins their bowl game. Our definition of self comes from us – not our conference, not our rivals, not media perception.
I am a physical therapist. Never worked for TIRR, just rotations. My fav was at scurlock towers where i got to treat a few of the rockets and minor league baseball guys. Got my MS from TWU in med center in 03 and my doctorate in 08. Been working since 03. Did a lot of travel therapy so thats why i have worked in a lot of cities.
What are u doing these days?
by TheContractor on Jan 15, 2012 9:15 PM CST up reply actions
what hospital you at now? still in the Med center?
by TheContractor on Jan 15, 2012 7:09 PM CST up reply actions
Retired - Insurance got too expensive.
"We're Texas. We don’t derive our value or self-definition from conference affiliation.
If that strikes people as cocky, so what? It’s also true. None of us will chant our conference’s name when we have an off year and Texas Tech wins their bowl game. Our definition of self comes from us – not our conference, not our rivals, not media perception.
Contractor
my aunt was one of the first nurses at MD when it opened in the late 30s/early 40s.. I was born across the street at Methodist I lived with a gal who was a high risk surgical nurse there and in the 80s, I almost married a gal that would have had me related to the Anderson family. Oh, and y’all saved my life there a few years ago so thanks!
glad you are better man!! not sure if i can take any credit, there are a lot of amazing people working in the med center.
by TheContractor on Jan 15, 2012 10:26 PM CST up reply actions
I've heard a lot of Texans say this, but no one else
While they’re certainly not as concentrated and large, most of the people I know in the industry (from consulting, mostly) regard Johns Hopkins as the best in the world. It’s certainly one of the finest medical schools and actual hospital systems on the planet.
"Anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that 'my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.'"
― Isaac Asimov
by burntorangehorn on Jan 15, 2012 6:44 PM CST up reply actions
(Although obviously Towson U., Bowie State, etc. aren't in contention for DGB, so this is moot in this discussion)
"Anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that 'my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.'"
― Isaac Asimov
by burntorangehorn on Jan 15, 2012 6:46 PM CST up reply actions
ive got a good friend doing surgery residency there now, and he says it great!
by TheContractor on Jan 15, 2012 6:46 PM CST up reply actions
Yeah, a number of friends of mine actually chose it over Columbia, Georgetown, Chicago, etc.
I believe most consider it in the top four, with Harvard, Penn, and Columbia. Not sure what would round out the top five, but WUSTL and Stanford are probably two strong candidates.
"Anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that 'my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.'"
― Isaac Asimov
by burntorangehorn on Jan 15, 2012 6:51 PM CST up reply actions
I haven’t heard that’s a possibility. With Coach Beckham’s experience, he could probably get a coaching job in 5 minutes.
by billfromlaketravis on Jan 15, 2012 6:18 PM CST up reply actions
Bill - any more rumblings about the 2012 schedule and WVU?
"We're Texas. We don’t derive our value or self-definition from conference affiliation.
If that strikes people as cocky, so what? It’s also true. None of us will chant our conference’s name when we have an off year and Texas Tech wins their bowl game. Our definition of self comes from us – not our conference, not our rivals, not media perception.
WVU and Big East are in non binding mediation
I think it likely ends with WVU in the Big 12 in 2012. They might have to pay through the nose though. WVU has some cash. They wired $1.5 million to the Big East’s offices as soon as they announced their departure.
by billfromlaketravis on Jan 15, 2012 6:20 PM CST up reply actions
It is an interesting dilemma for the Big XII
As I understand it, our TV contract requires 10 teams and if WVU is forced to wait another year, what will that do to the contract as we only have 9 teams??
"We're Texas. We don’t derive our value or self-definition from conference affiliation.
If that strikes people as cocky, so what? It’s also true. None of us will chant our conference’s name when we have an off year and Texas Tech wins their bowl game. Our definition of self comes from us – not our conference, not our rivals, not media perception.
B12 is required by thier tv partners to release thier schedual by Feb 1 if I am not mistaken
We will know one way or another soon…
JD’s like, "you want some f*&#ing pitching? Here’s all the pitching you can stand. Now choke on it, b*#&hes!"- RCCook
LSB: "Oh s#*t, JD. You crazy!"
WVU may be on both the BE and B12's schedules
The B12 will most probably be the official one but the BE can’t leave them off or they are just reducing the settlement they will get from them, if the BE voluntarily removes WVU from the schedule their lawsuit won’t do much of anything…
"We are who we are. People say what they say. The outcome is the outcome. We are proud of ourselves." -DeLoss Dodds 9/21/2011
Really? Maybe WVU will just breach their contract with the BE and just pay the penalties?
"We're Texas. We don’t derive our value or self-definition from conference affiliation.
If that strikes people as cocky, so what? It’s also true. None of us will chant our conference’s name when we have an off year and Texas Tech wins their bowl game. Our definition of self comes from us – not our conference, not our rivals, not media perception.
WVU will breach...
and the Big East will sue, however if the Big East leave West Virginia off their schedule the courts would most probably not give them a huge payout since most arguments will be established over scheduling difficulties (other schools adding more teams to play) but (like I said above) if the Big East leaves them off the schedule it reduces the effectiveness of the argument and takes much of the bite away from their litigation.
"We are who we are. People say what they say. The outcome is the outcome. We are proud of ourselves." -DeLoss Dodds 9/21/2011
Is there any law
that prevents the University from fielding two teams? They can play the Big12 Schedule with the real team and hold open tryouts for their Big East team. I’m sure the BE would back off if they threatened to do this.
no idea...
but that would be funny…
"We are who we are. People say what they say. The outcome is the outcome. We are proud of ourselves." -DeLoss Dodds 9/21/2011
Ha!
Yeah, I think the main roadblock would be the limit on the number of games a team can play in a season. Otherwise they’d be limited only by scholarship numbers, but there’s nothing saying they couldn’t sent out some of the deeper guys on the chart and walk-ons.
"Anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that 'my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.'"
― Isaac Asimov
by burntorangehorn on Jan 15, 2012 9:15 PM CST up reply actions
not a bad idea. would be unprecedented and very funny!
by TheContractor on Jan 15, 2012 9:16 PM CST up reply actions
Starting Next Season
OL: Cochran, Walters, Espy, Hopkins, Hawkins
WR: Ship, Harris, Goodwin (unless we land DGB)
RB: Obvious
QB: Ash
DE: JJ and Okafor
DT: Take your pick
LB: Cobbs, Edmond, Hicks
DB: Diggs, Byndom, Kenny V, Phillips, with Evans at Nickel
2012 will be good for depth. Flowers and Greenlea add some depth for OL. DT will be lights out and look for MB2 to play often. If we land Edwards then even better.
There was some interesting rumblings at Hook Em 247 about Cochran
They guessed he wouldn’t be starting in 2012. Hawkins at LT, Hopkins at RT. I hope their prediction is inaccurate. Hopkins needs to move back inside.
by billfromlaketravis on Jan 15, 2012 6:22 PM CST up reply actions
Surely they wouldn't bench Cochran
He played brilliantly as a true freshmen at LT
Hopkins wasn’t that great of a RT either and really struggled at times
That part of the report was perplexing
Not sure if it isn’t a ploy to push Cochran. I think he’ll have a good spring.
by billfromlaketravis on Jan 15, 2012 6:31 PM CST up reply actions
exactly. They will all compete and see who are the best 5 and they should start. We have a good amount of flexibility at OL. We have guys that can play different positions and thats a great thing. Cochran and Hawkins will get the shot to play LT and RT and see who is better. Hopkins can play maybe all 5 if needed. Walters can play both OGs and Center. Flowers can play both OGs. Kelly stepping up would be nice! Espy needs a good offseason and remember that he was a RS Fr. OLs need a year or 2 usually. He will be better but Hopkins could play there if we have a need.
by TheContractor on Jan 15, 2012 6:36 PM CST up reply actions
I've seen different reports
There’s some noise about Hopkins at center. We’ll see in the spring.
by billfromlaketravis on Jan 15, 2012 6:37 PM CST up reply actions
I think Turner will play a lot
I think Grant and McFarland are probably the top 2 TEs next season. A lot of hope riding on MJ.
by billfromlaketravis on Jan 15, 2012 6:25 PM CST up reply actions
I think Turner will rotate in along with Y2K and Evans
However, if Phillips competes like he has played, I think he earns the FS spot
No Davis at WR?
Figuring Grant or McFarland at TE?
Bill, what’s your take at those two positions?
I’m thinking Edmond is an absolute beast, but question whether he’ll get to be the starting mike. Wonder if Hicks or Jackson might make it to the middle, the other going outside, and Cobbs as the will and staying in nickel. I’d love for Edmond to be a Levon Kirkland, but man, he’s really getting huge. About time to see where he might be able to put his hand on the ground, maybe?
"Anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that 'my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.'"
― Isaac Asimov
by burntorangehorn on Jan 15, 2012 6:27 PM CST up reply actions
Don't forget Cobbs.
"We're Texas. We don’t derive our value or self-definition from conference affiliation.
If that strikes people as cocky, so what? It’s also true. None of us will chant our conference’s name when we have an off year and Texas Tech wins their bowl game. Our definition of self comes from us – not our conference, not our rivals, not media perception.
Right, I was saying Cobbs would play will, and stay in the game for nickel
"Anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that 'my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.'"
― Isaac Asimov
by burntorangehorn on Jan 15, 2012 6:34 PM CST up reply actions
Davis
He’s now indicating he’ll remain at Texas. He’ll meet with the coaches soon, and we’ll see where he is after that.
I think TE is going to be a big concern until 2013. I think Texas made some mistakes not pursuing an OOS option at this position. I think it’s something they must do in the future. Not many TEs in the spread happy state of Texas.
Edmond is around 260-270. Kirkland is an apt comparison. I think Edmond starts at MLB, spelled by Jackson. I think Tevin plays every LB position next year. Cobbs, Edmond and Hicks are the starting three going into the spring.
by billfromlaketravis on Jan 15, 2012 6:30 PM CST up reply actions
Davis depends on offseason gain
That list is from what I see right now. If Davis puts in the effort and gets his head right, he will rotate in as well. However, Cayleb Jones has some serious upside and Davis should watch his spot
I think Cayleb Jones can help Texas immediately on jump balls in the redzone
by billfromlaketravis on Jan 15, 2012 10:22 PM CST up reply actions
DGB and Edwards
If they sign with UT can you think of another class, in the nation, taht has approached this one in the last 20 years?
"We're Texas. We don’t derive our value or self-definition from conference affiliation.
If that strikes people as cocky, so what? It’s also true. None of us will chant our conference’s name when we have an off year and Texas Tech wins their bowl game. Our definition of self comes from us – not our conference, not our rivals, not media perception.
USC 2006, maybe?
"Anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that 'my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.'"
― Isaac Asimov
by burntorangehorn on Jan 15, 2012 6:32 PM CST up reply actions
Alabama will have a better class than Texas
They just landed Collins, in it for so many others.
by billfromlaketravis on Jan 15, 2012 6:33 PM CST up reply actions
You think? Even if we get DGB and Edwards?
Our class without them is already dynamite!
"We're Texas. We don’t derive our value or self-definition from conference affiliation.
If that strikes people as cocky, so what? It’s also true. None of us will chant our conference’s name when we have an off year and Texas Tech wins their bowl game. Our definition of self comes from us – not our conference, not our rivals, not media perception.
lol im not counting Collins until he signs on the dotted line
his momma looked pissed as hell
In The Morning To You
I don't think she's much of a factor
I’ve seen a couple things about Collins not even living with his mother.
by billfromlaketravis on Jan 15, 2012 6:38 PM CST up reply actions
why pick Bama over LSU?
ive been to Louisiana and it seemed like a lot of fun. hard to imagine Alabama being better
In The Morning To You
The $$$ is better!
"We're Texas. We don’t derive our value or self-definition from conference affiliation.
If that strikes people as cocky, so what? It’s also true. None of us will chant our conference’s name when we have an off year and Texas Tech wins their bowl game. Our definition of self comes from us – not our conference, not our rivals, not media perception.
i think he cashed the Bama check and his mom cashed the Lsu check. Bama might have been a bit higher. But make so mistake, $ec is $ec for a reason……$$$
by TheContractor on Jan 15, 2012 6:42 PM CST up reply actions
Some guys just want to get away from home
Bad influences, bad family relationships, etc. Collins currently lives about 20min. away from the LSU campus.
"Anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that 'my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.'"
― Isaac Asimov
by burntorangehorn on Jan 15, 2012 6:43 PM CST up reply actions
I just saw the the video of his announcement for the first time.
Holy crap, I see what people were saying about his mom’s reaction. I don’t want to be too quick to pass judgement, as I know nothing about his background or family situation that might be extenuating factors, but she did not show much support for her son on national television. First time I’ve seen a mother react that way to an announcement. She wasn’t sad he was leaving. She was flat out pissed. I hate to draw conclusions as to her reason for reacting that way with no concrete evidence, but it’s hard for the mind not to wonder with that type of reaction.
"The only sport that should be cried over is tee ball."
- don't remember who said it, but I like it.
lots of busts in the 06 USC class
Thats why the best recruiting class doesn’t necessarily mean too much. Ask Miami
That's absolutely true
Another example was 2002 Texas. McCullough never played a second season at the university level.
"Anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that 'my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.'"
― Isaac Asimov
by burntorangehorn on Jan 15, 2012 6:37 PM CST up reply actions
recruiting classes
Bama #1 four year average recruiting class. LSU was #4. Maybe there is a reason we pay attention to this stuff. No BCS NC has had average 4 year class outside of the top 8 or 10 (read that in an article). Only 2 teams outside of that have played for title, VT and Oregon. Sounds like recruiting matters
by codaxx on Jan 15, 2012 6:58 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
read the same article. very good points. It matters!
by TheContractor on Jan 15, 2012 6:59 PM CST up reply actions
Never said recruiting doesn't matter
I’m saying the number 1 class doesn’t always lead to success, even some of the best on paper classes. Yes, talent is needed, but you have to develop it. That’s where UT has struggled recently at a few key positions
2002 Texas was made up of recruits who were part of the greatest team of all time
In The Morning To You
Hard to argue against the 2002 team, but this one is shaping up as something beyond special!
"We're Texas. We don’t derive our value or self-definition from conference affiliation.
If that strikes people as cocky, so what? It’s also true. None of us will chant our conference’s name when we have an off year and Texas Tech wins their bowl game. Our definition of self comes from us – not our conference, not our rivals, not media perception.
the result of 2002 class was great, 25-1 in 2 years but there have been classes that have had more top NFL guys. Miami has had a few as has Fsu.
by TheContractor on Jan 15, 2012 6:43 PM CST up reply actions
That '02 class included six players who were 5-stars
Three made it — Rod Wright, Justin Blalock and some QB or other
And three . . . , uh — DE Brian Pickryl, CB Edorian McCullough and WR Marquis Johnson. Pickryl was a stud in the making until injuries killed his career. Johnson, I believe, was an academic bust. McCullough played a year and transferred out west, where he didn’t make it.
That class also included Marcus Martin (Big Yummy, I believe he was called). Total washout, as were WR Robert Timmons and LB Garnett Smith.
But many of the rest — Lyle Sendlein, Brian Robison, Kasey Studdard, David Thomas, Aaron Harris, Aaron Ross Selvyn Young — were major parts of three memorable teams (2004-2006). From the opening of ‘04 to Colt McCoy’s early-game injury against K-State late in ’06, those teams were 34-2.
McCullough was in a SUV that had some pot in it...
Story was they were out on a field trip for their Sociology class, late spring or early summer. Got pulled over and found some weed in an air vent. Did not make the papers until a week later. Driver took the rap and nothing else was said. I do remember right before 2 a days, Someone asked Chip Brown about him and said he was gone. All this happened very quietly and it went away without any negative light on the program. That’s how I remember it anyway.
"We are Texas. We always expect to be the best." - Sam Acho
Right, but a lot of guys were busts too
"Anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that 'my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.'"
― Isaac Asimov
by burntorangehorn on Jan 15, 2012 6:44 PM CST up reply actions
It looks like Dontre Wilson will be at the first Junior Day
Again Oregon visit is likely coming during DeSoto’s spring break.
by billfromlaketravis on Jan 15, 2012 6:27 PM CST reply actions
Call me optimistic, but I think NEXT years has some real possiblities
It…all….depends….upon….ASH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
"We're Texas. We don’t derive our value or self-definition from conference affiliation.
If that strikes people as cocky, so what? It’s also true. None of us will chant our conference’s name when we have an off year and Texas Tech wins their bowl game. Our definition of self comes from us – not our conference, not our rivals, not media perception.
maybe Ash's season will be like a season long 2004 Rose Bowl
SHOCK THE NATION TOUR 2!!!!!!!!
In The Morning To You
im there with you!
i think we need to win Big 12 next year. If we get a little lucky and the ball roles our way, we have a shot in 2012. Need a great offseason and some lucky bounces in 2012. Not a hard schedule and we could go undefeated/11-1
by TheContractor on Jan 15, 2012 6:45 PM CST up reply actions
Who do we lose to?
"We're Texas. We don’t derive our value or self-definition from conference affiliation.
If that strikes people as cocky, so what? It’s also true. None of us will chant our conference’s name when we have an off year and Texas Tech wins their bowl game. Our definition of self comes from us – not our conference, not our rivals, not media perception.
K St and WVU
and probably OU too…9-3
"We are who we are. People say what they say. The outcome is the outcome. We are proud of ourselves." -DeLoss Dodds 9/21/2011
I think it gets revisited in about 10 years
It will be discussed. I’m not saying it happens in 10 years.
by billfromlaketravis on Jan 15, 2012 6:48 PM CST up reply actions
would you be disappointed if we didnt play them for oh...20 years or so?
my aggie friends are so depressed over the loss and im loving that i can hold scoreboard over them for so long they’ve finally started saying UT and not “tu”
In The Morning To You
I think there needs to be ground rules
The Thanksgiving Game is over with. I’d be alright with Texas playing Aggie in September in the OOC schedule in 10 years.
by billfromlaketravis on Jan 15, 2012 6:51 PM CST up reply actions
I will be pissed if we ever do anything to help the aggies.
Do you realize they did everything they could to torpedoe the Big XII because of their hatred for UT?
"We're Texas. We don’t derive our value or self-definition from conference affiliation.
If that strikes people as cocky, so what? It’s also true. None of us will chant our conference’s name when we have an off year and Texas Tech wins their bowl game. Our definition of self comes from us – not our conference, not our rivals, not media perception.
10 years seems like a good cooling off period to me
It is plenty of time for A&M to stink it up in the SEC and be of no concern to steal recruits.
We're Texas, We're not OK.
so the rivalry can more like
“hey little fella you wanna come play a football game in Austin? 3 hours and 6 TDs later touchdown!!! oh im sorry no touchdowns for you but smile for the Longhorn Network”
In The Morning To You
Another plus for us next and it is not small thing either
And that is our new coaches will have a whole year under their belts and they finally know their players NAMES for pete’s sake!
"We're Texas. We don’t derive our value or self-definition from conference affiliation.
If that strikes people as cocky, so what? It’s also true. None of us will chant our conference’s name when we have an off year and Texas Tech wins their bowl game. Our definition of self comes from us – not our conference, not our rivals, not media perception.
Next YEAR - damn it.
"We're Texas. We don’t derive our value or self-definition from conference affiliation.
If that strikes people as cocky, so what? It’s also true. None of us will chant our conference’s name when we have an off year and Texas Tech wins their bowl game. Our definition of self comes from us – not our conference, not our rivals, not media perception.
Venables to Clemson
He apparently spent the weekend there. Is Venables out of OU with m. stoops coming into OU a net gain or net loss for OU.
Venables seemed to have our number and OU has been tough for us lately. I’m happy to see something change with Martinez and Venables out. Am I Pollyanna and are we in more trouble with Mike Stoops as OU’s DC?
We're Texas, We're not OK.
Mike Stoops is a better DC than Venables
by billfromlaketravis on Jan 15, 2012 6:50 PM CST up reply actions
Probably so, but Arizona was certainly a gawdawful defense while he was there, no?
"Anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that 'my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.'"
― Isaac Asimov
by burntorangehorn on Jan 15, 2012 6:53 PM CST up reply actions
You're tossing gawdawful around lightly.
You do remember why Clemson’s DC spot is open?
Try 70-33. Now, that was godawful.
We got the 70 coming in next year (if the lawyers can work things out).
That was one game
Clemson was middle of the pack in scoring defense, above average in passing offense, and a little below average in rushing defense. I certainly think that bounce-pass play would’ve thrown just about anyone for a loop. Anyway, Clemson was definitely not as strong as Arizona against the run, but was significantly stronger in PPG and against the pass.
"Anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that 'my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.'"
― Isaac Asimov
by burntorangehorn on Jan 15, 2012 8:23 PM CST up reply actions
WV Trick Play
I watched the Orange Bowl, but somehow missed the trick play WV ran, that you’re referencing here. I heard it mentioned in the ESPN post game comments, but they didn’t show a replay. And I’ve seen a few people mention it on boards. Could anyone post a link to a video of this play or at least describe what it was? I’m quite curious.
"ABC welcomes you to back to Vince Young Field" - Rose Bowl Sign
You have to watch really carefully
It’s extremely fast. I think the best view I’ve seen is at about the 4:58 mark of this clip:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4uDaboo-ZyA
"Anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that 'my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.'"
― Isaac Asimov
by burntorangehorn on Jan 15, 2012 11:07 PM CST up reply actions
apparently
Geno Smith bounced the ball in the air with his fist(s) and the WR caught it on the run. No handoff. Had to watch it a few times to finally understand it myself.
"Three things can happen when you pass and two of 'em are bad."
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by 04'-05'-glorydays on Jan 16, 2012 12:51 AM CST up reply actions
Basically looked like the basketball equivalent of a touch pass
As soon as the snap reaches his finger tips, he redirects it forward to the jet motion guy running behind the OL
Yep, counts as an incomplete pass if it fails, but is essentially a handoff
It was pretty cool to hear Holgorsen explain it in the on-field interview after the game.
"Anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that 'my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.'"
― Isaac Asimov
by burntorangehorn on Jan 16, 2012 8:25 AM CST up reply actions
he may have had our # but we didnt play well either, mostly bc of our offensive staff mentality. “the wind was too much” was one of my most hated statements by Mack of all time!
but he is a good DC and now he has some HC experience. Good hire for sure.
WE have a damn good staff also!!
I'm not worried about our D
But I do worry about our O. So, the last thing we need is OU with an even better D.
We're Texas, We're not OK.
I think there will be an adjustment period for Stoops
The league has changed considerably since his time at OU.
by billfromlaketravis on Jan 15, 2012 6:53 PM CST up reply actions
Something creeps me out about two of the head guys being brothers
Call it the Pelini factor or what have you, but the idea of looking at Bob Stoops and Mike Stoops with there lack of upper lips and no chin on a daily basis would make me kill myself.
We're Texas, We're not OK.
Maybe LHN can come up with that technology!
by TheContractor on Jan 15, 2012 7:00 PM CST up reply actions
That would be fabulous
I am certainly willing to pay extra for that feature. I would like when Nebraska and Oregon play also. Maybe a package deal of deleting the faces of your 5 least favorite coaches would work.
We're Texas, We're not OK.
good idea
censor the faces of the following: Bob Stoops, Mike Stoops, Lane Kiffin, Nick Saban, and Carl Pelini dont censor Bo cause i wanna see more of his epic childish sideline antics
In The Morning To You
Carl Pelini no loner at NU
took HC job at some school in Florida.
Because being a Texas fan means never having to say you're sorry.
by dukeoforange on Jan 16, 2012 7:28 AM CST up reply actions
for all you UT grads (not football related)
if i go to JC what classes should i take to give me a better shot at getting into UT?
In The Morning To You
i only ask cause some of the JC's around here offer a lot of courses
and ive heard that some credits dont transfer over to UT maybe its outdated info though
In The Morning To You
ive been out of UT for over 10 years but i do remember that being a correct statement, all credits might not transfer.
by TheContractor on Jan 15, 2012 7:06 PM CST up reply actions
Get on the internet, check the degree plans and tailor your subjects to UT requirements.
"We're Texas. We don’t derive our value or self-definition from conference affiliation.
If that strikes people as cocky, so what? It’s also true. None of us will chant our conference’s name when we have an off year and Texas Tech wins their bowl game. Our definition of self comes from us – not our conference, not our rivals, not media perception.
I disagree with the internet. That is fine for facts, but not for admission
Admission Officers can defintely influence things. You go in and hand in your Application in person. You tell that person why you want to attend the school and what you intend to accomplish in your life. They get tons of applications with grades as good or better than your’s….so stand out. Make an impact. They can put you in the top stack if they want to, so go and try to make that happen.
We're Texas, We're not OK.
I posted below
I’m old and was being sarcastic, but TheContractor is right and I added to it. GO to the source. The folks that work in the Admissions Office are just like you and me. Go in and have a chat with them Face to Face and ask. They will learn your name, and be able to keep an eye out for you. Marketing 101. Show that you want it and they will be happy to help you get it.
We're Texas, We're not OK.
ive already got a trip to Austin planned just for that purpose
and actually i do wanna go to Law School lol but the odds of that are slim considering the overall cost. thanks for all the info guys
In The Morning To You
The cost is minimal when you look at future earnings potential.
I use to think the same way until I figured out that I needed to factor cost based on future salary not what I was earning before enrolling.
RUN AWAY!
Law school sucks…trust me haha I’m in my second year. Honestly, watch the legal market before deciding to go…it’s pretty tight for jobs for a while.
As far as JUCO goes. Email the department at UT in which your desired major in under and they can send you a list of classes that transfer. Getting in is all about overall GPA, civic activities, and your transfer essays.
Definitely agree on law school
It might be worth it for some, but with two kids and a full-time job, I ended up cutting out very early in law school. I realized that I was leaving the house while my girls and then-wife were still asleep (6am), returning when the girls were asleep and the then-wife was winding down (10pm), and in between I was eating breakfast and lunch at my work computer, and dinner off the passenger seat of my car as I drove in to Baltimore for classes after work. To boot, the days I did not have classes (Friday, Saturday, and Sunday), I was swamped with reading and classwork. All told, I was going to basically miss four years of my little girls’ lives, harm myself with less sleep than one needs, stress myself into poor health, never have time to make medical appointments, and bust my ass for all those years, only to ultimately take a significant pay cut (most lawyers actually don’t make that much) and start off at the bottom of the career totem pole.
Read this if you need help: http://www.nytimes.com/2011/01/09/business/09law.html?pagewanted=all
Note that law schools’ employment stats, both income and percentages, are almost always false. They will hire a lot of their graduates as temp workers just before the various employment milestones, conveniently lose touch with many who aren’t employed, and find ways to not factor in the unemployed or ungainfully employed from their statistics.
"Anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that 'my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.'"
― Isaac Asimov
by burntorangehorn on Jan 15, 2012 10:54 PM CST up reply actions
i think all you need to do is take the basic math, english, bio, chem, history, etc. but the key is to do well in the classes. you will want to take most of the upper devision classes at UT.
My suggestion would be to meet with a counselor at UT and get his/her advise.
You are right
The real answer to get what you want is to go to the person that makes that decision. I give this same advice to lots of kids that want to go to law school.
Go to the Admission Office and tell them how much you would like to attend. Point out the positives including what you do for your community and why UT would be proud to have their degree associated with the work you intend to do in your life. And ask them based on where you stand today (grades and school) what they recommend and what would make you attractive to them to admit so that you know your goal. And, most of all, good luck in getting into UT. It isn’t easy anymore like it was back in my day.
We're Texas, We're not OK.
LOL - In my day you had to take and Entrance Exam - none of this SAT or ACT stuff.
"We're Texas. We don’t derive our value or self-definition from conference affiliation.
If that strikes people as cocky, so what? It’s also true. None of us will chant our conference’s name when we have an off year and Texas Tech wins their bowl game. Our definition of self comes from us – not our conference, not our rivals, not media perception.
I'm older than evolution - you are just a baby!
"We're Texas. We don’t derive our value or self-definition from conference affiliation.
If that strikes people as cocky, so what? It’s also true. None of us will chant our conference’s name when we have an off year and Texas Tech wins their bowl game. Our definition of self comes from us – not our conference, not our rivals, not media perception.
And the Texans had sooo many chances
4 turnovers and still with a chance in the last minute. I’m dissapointed, but at least they had a chance.
I’m all for the underdogs now, so bring it on NY.
We're Texas, We're not OK.
Our aggie coach
3rd and one yd. for a first on the Ravens 20 yd. line – who, in their right mind would not call a QB sneak with a 6’5" QB? Not Kubiak!
"We're Texas. We don’t derive our value or self-definition from conference affiliation.
If that strikes people as cocky, so what? It’s also true. None of us will chant our conference’s name when we have an off year and Texas Tech wins their bowl game. Our definition of self comes from us – not our conference, not our rivals, not media perception.
He called an off tackle hand off to our running back.
Resulting in a two yard loss
"We're Texas. We don’t derive our value or self-definition from conference affiliation.
If that strikes people as cocky, so what? It’s also true. None of us will chant our conference’s name when we have an off year and Texas Tech wins their bowl game. Our definition of self comes from us – not our conference, not our rivals, not media perception.
I'm not mad at Kubiak
But we started 3-0 and then held Ravens on a 3 and out to have Jacoby let a punt bounce, then try to field it only to get creamed and give them the ball on the 5 for 7.
Also, Rackers kicked a nice field goal to be 6" short and have it hit the cross bar.
Then at the end of the game we were down by 4 on the 30 or so with no TO but only 3-2—Yates threw a Hail Mary instead of gettig 5 or 10 and having another 2 shots.
We're Texas, We're not OK.
wrong call, but dont you think the coaches called the hail marry instead of getting 5-10 yards and a first down and get out? bad all at the end on both deep passes.
by TheContractor on Jan 15, 2012 7:21 PM CST up reply actions
Mistakes a plenty for Texans
Mostly on the O. They wasted an early TO also.
I’m actually just thankful that God didn’t smite us like he did Tebow. (no offense to Tebowists, if that is a religion now).
We're Texas, We're not OK.
actual;y i read an article that shows that Tebow might be the antichrist
the similarities are chilling
In The Morning To You
Jacoby Jones made 2011 Mike Davis look like an all star
by TheContractor on Jan 15, 2012 7:19 PM CST up reply actions
LOL - so true
"We're Texas. We don’t derive our value or self-definition from conference affiliation.
If that strikes people as cocky, so what? It’s also true. None of us will chant our conference’s name when we have an off year and Texas Tech wins their bowl game. Our definition of self comes from us – not our conference, not our rivals, not media perception.
The ball hit Jacoby in the face (twice)
At least Mike Davis lets it hit his hands.
We're Texas, We're not OK.
haha, maybe he was trying to pull a “Replacements” type of catch. You know he rather get on Sportscenter.
by TheContractor on Jan 15, 2012 7:24 PM CST up reply actions
He wouldn't be the 4 WR on most teams
I predict Texans draft or sign a few WRs this year.
We're Texas, We're not OK.
they should definitely cut JJ and draft a #2 WR, probably 2nd-3rd round. lot of WR talent out there. I would not mind Kendel Wright but i doubt he is around late 1st. might be top 10 pick.
by TheContractor on Jan 15, 2012 7:27 PM CST up reply actions
Yeah, but my Texans lost - they need a QB too!
"We're Texas. We don’t derive our value or self-definition from conference affiliation.
If that strikes people as cocky, so what? It’s also true. None of us will chant our conference’s name when we have an off year and Texas Tech wins their bowl game. Our definition of self comes from us – not our conference, not our rivals, not media perception.
Poor Louisiana folksq
This year’s football season has been as cruel as Katrina.
We're Texas, We're not OK.
eh i got family there
who are Saints fans AND LSU fans (oh yea i sent some funny texts that night “Hey werent you guys supposed to play tonight”?) i actually like the Saints David Thomas is there and Drew Brees is a class act from Texas
In The Morning To You
Gregg Williams is going with Fisher to the Rams
Saints looking at Steve Spagnuolo, Mike Nolan, and Jack Del Rio to become DC.
All three would be great
Though I don’t like a 3-4 with Nolan
Williams though is extremely overrated. If he can’t force turnovers, you are pretty much handing the other team points, and the talent in Nawlins was wasted
He did OK
If JJ hadn’t pulled that nucklehead attempt on the punt and given them an easy 7.
I also didn’t like the last 12 seconds and not going for a 1st down out of bounds. But, our D is awesome and we have amazing potential.
So BLT….should I buy the PSL I’ve been offered for the Texans? I think it is a good investment.
We're Texas, We're not OK.
Look for Texas to recruit more OOS on defense in 2013
Marcell Harris and D.J. Ward could be a harbinger of things to come.
by billfromlaketravis on Jan 15, 2012 7:21 PM CST reply actions
i have only heard of 3 OOS guys so far:
Harris, Ward, Thomas.
anyone else?
I feel that since we are limited with ’ships and have some good talent in state, we might not go after more than those 3 in 13. in 14 i could see more of a shot at oos.
by TheContractor on Jan 15, 2012 7:23 PM CST up reply actions
I think we could see an OOS cornerback
Akina doesn’t seem to like the current crop.
I think we’ll see more OOS DEs, and possibly OLBs.
by billfromlaketravis on Jan 15, 2012 7:25 PM CST up reply actions
have you also heard that Naashon Hughes will be offered? most probably as an OLB?
by TheContractor on Jan 15, 2012 7:30 PM CST up reply actions
I'm slightly surprised Naashon Hughes hasn't been invited yet
by billfromlaketravis on Jan 15, 2012 7:31 PM CST up reply actions
Naashon Hughes just told Eric Nahlin of the ’Cosm that he will be at JD1!!
there we go!!
I hope Morgan confirms soon also!!
by TheContractor on Jan 15, 2012 7:59 PM CST up reply actions
also, how many ’ships you think we can get to in 13?
21-22?
by TheContractor on Jan 15, 2012 7:31 PM CST up reply actions
wow, thats not high. i know “brick by brick was nice for 2011 but the coaches need a mantra for junior days……”every ’ship counts"
by TheContractor on Jan 15, 2012 7:33 PM CST up reply actions
2013 'ship count
QB-1
RB-1-2
WR-2
TE-2
OL-4
Offense 10-11 ships
DE-2
DT-2
LB-2
CB-1-2
S-2
Defense 9-10
sound about right to you?
by TheContractor on Jan 15, 2012 7:36 PM CST up reply actions
Looks right to me, it could be as few 15 in 2013
by billfromlaketravis on Jan 15, 2012 7:37 PM CST up reply actions
Wow, I'd be shocked if that were to happen
I’d expect a little continued attrition (not that I’m a fan of it), and at least 18, more likely 20-22. I would think the staff would really try to avoid such a big imbalance, although I understand redshirting could offset that a bit.
"Anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that 'my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.'"
― Isaac Asimov
by burntorangehorn on Jan 15, 2012 7:39 PM CST up reply actions
wow, i hope its 20. there will be a little bit of attrition still.
by TheContractor on Jan 15, 2012 7:39 PM CST up reply actions
No way it's only 15
Unless we get the top 15 on the coaches’ list and just shut ’er down.
By next Aggie Day (sorry, Frog Day), we’ll have room to sign 16, 17, and attrition next December will get us to 20.
I think it'll be closer to 20 than 15
I said it was the basement
by billfromlaketravis on Jan 15, 2012 8:50 PM CST up reply actions
lots of early graduations coming...
plenty of non contributing red shirt juniors will we gone…
"We are who we are. People say what they say. The outcome is the outcome. We are proud of ourselves." -DeLoss Dodds 9/21/2011
California
I have asked you this before, but I still don’t understand why Texas doesn’t recruit more in California. It seems that all top ranked recruits in California either go to Notre Dame or USC. I think with the exposure Texas had with the Rose Bowl games previously that could have layed down some ground work.
Cali
This has been a point of frustration for Texas fans for a very long time. I think it’s going to take a few Cali kids coming to Texas and working out really well for Texas to recruit the state more extensively.
by billfromlaketravis on Jan 15, 2012 8:53 PM CST up reply actions
Don't you think we dodged a bullet by not joining the PAC?
"We're Texas. We don’t derive our value or self-definition from conference affiliation.
If that strikes people as cocky, so what? It’s also true. None of us will chant our conference’s name when we have an off year and Texas Tech wins their bowl game. Our definition of self comes from us – not our conference, not our rivals, not media perception.
PAC
I am not smart or have any inside info, but as a tshirt fan from Corpus Christi, I think UT could have greatly benefited from joining the PAC conference. The level of competition would have gone up, along with setting a recruiting foundation. Another thought on that is Texas could have started recruiting USC to join this “Superconference”. As a football fan, I would have loved to have seen Texas play teams in California, Arizona, and Oregon.
i believe its hard to tell in the short term. We will find out in 5+ years. It might turn out to be a brilliant decision in a few years, it might turn out to be horrible. LHN better work out and something with ND needs to work out for this to be a win for UT.
by TheContractor on Jan 15, 2012 9:20 PM CST up reply actions
Defense
I think Texas will stay in state at TE in 2013.
by billfromlaketravis on Jan 15, 2012 7:22 PM CST up reply actions
there are 2 great TEs instate in 13.
RSJ and Morgan!
by TheContractor on Jan 15, 2012 7:23 PM CST up reply actions
That's a change
Is McFarland really a good TE. I watched some clips back when we were recruiting him and they showed good hands. But, does he block?
We're Texas, We're not OK.
Thats what the RS year and this spring and summer is for. He needs to become a more physical player, block better and lear to run routes from the line. He has great size and good hands and has the “potential.”
by TheContractor on Jan 15, 2012 7:28 PM CST up reply actions
McFarland played WR in high school
There’s going to be a learning curve.
by billfromlaketravis on Jan 15, 2012 7:30 PM CST up reply actions
Tipsy Gypsie - he of Recruitocosm just tweeted -
We just did the Big Cigar draft on Texas Jdays commit %‘s with thoughts from our insider and let’s just say Texas fans will be ecstatic.
How is that for an unfullfilled teaser? :-)
"We're Texas. We don’t derive our value or self-definition from conference affiliation.
If that strikes people as cocky, so what? It’s also true. None of us will chant our conference’s name when we have an off year and Texas Tech wins their bowl game. Our definition of self comes from us – not our conference, not our rivals, not media perception.
Texas should kill the Junior Days
by billfromlaketravis on Jan 15, 2012 7:31 PM CST up reply actions
Junior Days
Who do you think the commitments will be?
Junior Day Predictions
I think James, Perkins, Raulerson, Wade (if he’s there), Manning, Miles, and RSJ could all be early commitments.
Give me Swoopes as the surprise commitment.
by billfromlaketravis on Jan 15, 2012 8:04 PM CST up reply actions
I think Naashon Hughes also commits on the spot if offered
Definitely a project with some big time upside. I think he’s a DE if he keeps growing.
by billfromlaketravis on Jan 15, 2012 8:07 PM CST up reply actions
he is close to 100% Texas commit as it comes. his brother is on the team and UT already said they will offer.
by TheContractor on Jan 15, 2012 8:08 PM CST up reply actions
Common knowledge
The Hughes Brothers and Darius James are very tight. I think Texas throws the Harker Heights pipeline wide open this year.
by billfromlaketravis on Jan 15, 2012 8:09 PM CST up reply actions
yeah, cosm has been tweeting that they will have a % update for 2013 monday.
by TheContractor on Jan 15, 2012 7:32 PM CST up reply actions
bill
If Texas doesn’t make it to a bcs bowl or even a top tier bowl next year do u thinku there will be more pressure on Mack to maybe God forbid to step down?
i think there will be pressure for sure, we need to contend for big 12 in 2012!!!
by TheContractor on Jan 15, 2012 7:33 PM CST up reply actions
yeah, i dont think there is a true "hot seat.’ but pressure will be there, and i think maybe from Mack himself also. I truly feel he wants to win badly now, even with the horrible way the Case McCoy issue has been handled.
by TheContractor on Jan 15, 2012 7:42 PM CST up reply actions
There will be pressure on Mack for suer, but don't overlook Harsin either
Diaz has made his bones, Harsin hasn’t. Our offense will need to show marked imkprovement.
"We're Texas. We don’t derive our value or self-definition from conference affiliation.
If that strikes people as cocky, so what? It’s also true. None of us will chant our conference’s name when we have an off year and Texas Tech wins their bowl game. Our definition of self comes from us – not our conference, not our rivals, not media perception.
yeah, the O will need to improve in ’12. OL and Ash are key!
by TheContractor on Jan 15, 2012 7:37 PM CST up reply actions
And WR's
"We're Texas. We don’t derive our value or self-definition from conference affiliation.
If that strikes people as cocky, so what? It’s also true. None of us will chant our conference’s name when we have an off year and Texas Tech wins their bowl game. Our definition of self comes from us – not our conference, not our rivals, not media perception.
good point, yeah, WRs also, and TEs.
So pretty much every single Offensive position!
I think our Kicking game will play a huge part of 2012 so we need to get that solved in spring/summer.
by TheContractor on Jan 15, 2012 7:44 PM CST up reply actions
I think the o line improves a lot with Hawkins holding down rt and maybe Hopkins moving to guard will be huge!
no maybe about it, its huge to have a OT thats ready to play and to be able to move a very good OG to OG, rather than keep him out at OT.
by TheContractor on Jan 15, 2012 7:47 PM CST up reply actions
2013 Thoughts
I think with such a small class there will be plenty of Texas snubs. Evaluations will be very, very important this year. Wylie East WR Marcell Ateman could be an early one. He is a heckuva player. I think Texas pursues if things don’t work out with Jake Oliver.
Additionally, look for more recruiting battles with Arkansas in DFW. The Hogs are certainly making a play in the area. Arkansas is a hot school right now for DFW students.
by billfromlaketravis on Jan 15, 2012 8:01 PM CST reply actions
yeah, i like Ateman also. He had a great camp last weekend.
by TheContractor on Jan 15, 2012 8:06 PM CST up reply actions
I wish there were room for Ateman
I think if another WR leaves we could see Texas pursue Ateman.
by billfromlaketravis on Jan 15, 2012 8:08 PM CST up reply actions
makes sense. another big WR. they growing like crazy. gonna need 6-1+ CBs!
by TheContractor on Jan 15, 2012 8:09 PM CST up reply actions
Stoops won't like this.
Arkansas is a hot school right now for DFW students.
"We're Texas. We don’t derive our value or self-definition from conference affiliation.
If that strikes people as cocky, so what? It’s also true. None of us will chant our conference’s name when we have an off year and Texas Tech wins their bowl game. Our definition of self comes from us – not our conference, not our rivals, not media perception.
I think OU Admission won't like it
I meant students, not necessarily student athletes.
by billfromlaketravis on Jan 15, 2012 8:34 PM CST up reply actions
Keep an eye on Peoria, AZ DE Marcus Farria
Another big SDE from a state that has been good to Texas. He hasn’t been invited to one of the Junior Days, but I think Texas should get involved down the road.
by billfromlaketravis on Jan 15, 2012 8:12 PM CST reply actions
J.J. Gustafson is a person favorite of mine in the 2013 class
Texas seems to be pursuing other OLs right now, but I think Texas could get involved if Ishmael Wilson commits to LSU.
by billfromlaketravis on Jan 15, 2012 8:17 PM CST reply actions
very good point. JJ is damn good. I think he should be invited along with Wilson and work them both out. Wilson, does like Lsu also.
We hopefully will have James(OC/OG), Perkins(OT), and Robinson(OG/OT) on the OL. Room for 1 more, probably a OT and JJ would be great add!!
by TheContractor on Jan 15, 2012 8:24 PM CST up reply actions
What are your thoughts on the OU coach movements will
Have on their recruiting?
JD’s like, "you want some f*&#ing pitching? Here’s all the pitching you can stand. Now choke on it, b*#&hes!"- RCCook
LSB: "Oh s#*t, JD. You crazy!"
I think they've probably sold the smooth Stoops transition to their recruits
I think Harris is only recruit they’re going to lose.
by billfromlaketravis on Jan 15, 2012 8:32 PM CST reply actions
Shuttlesworth seems to know some inside trash about OU that could be big.
"We're Texas. We don’t derive our value or self-definition from conference affiliation.
If that strikes people as cocky, so what? It’s also true. None of us will chant our conference’s name when we have an off year and Texas Tech wins their bowl game. Our definition of self comes from us – not our conference, not our rivals, not media perception.
It'll be interesting to see what facts come out
If anybody knows how to avert a crisis, it’s OU. See Big Red Auto.
by billfromlaketravis on Jan 15, 2012 8:38 PM CST up reply actions
Early enrollees
Do you know who will be enrolling this month?
by longhorn charlie on Jan 15, 2012 8:34 PM CST reply actions
Connor already enrolled. Both Juco guys, Moore and Hawkins checked into jester today i think.
not sure who else.
by TheContractor on Jan 15, 2012 8:35 PM CST up reply actions
Early enrollees
Off the top of my head, Duke Thomas, Connor Brewer, Hughes, Hawkins and Moore. I know I’m forgetting one, I believe DLT is an early commit also.
by billfromlaketravis on Jan 15, 2012 8:36 PM CST up reply actions
Kendall Sanders?
I’d heard him.
"Anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that 'my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.'"
― Isaac Asimov
by burntorangehorn on Jan 15, 2012 9:37 PM CST up reply actions
say we don't get dgb or edwards
think we just hold tight w/ hobbs and shut it down?
I think it'll be too late to pursue anyone else
It’s DGB and Edwards or bust.
by billfromlaketravis on Jan 15, 2012 8:45 PM CST up reply actions
You think they will both commit on the 1st?
"We're Texas. We don’t derive our value or self-definition from conference affiliation.
If that strikes people as cocky, so what? It’s also true. None of us will chant our conference’s name when we have an off year and Texas Tech wins their bowl game. Our definition of self comes from us – not our conference, not our rivals, not media perception.
Just One? Ok, you shouldn't have said that - which one?
"We're Texas. We don’t derive our value or self-definition from conference affiliation.
If that strikes people as cocky, so what? It’s also true. None of us will chant our conference’s name when we have an off year and Texas Tech wins their bowl game. Our definition of self comes from us – not our conference, not our rivals, not media perception.
He said AT LEAST one
If it’s just one I’ll take DGB, please!
Amen to that
"We're Texas. We don’t derive our value or self-definition from conference affiliation.
If that strikes people as cocky, so what? It’s also true. None of us will chant our conference’s name when we have an off year and Texas Tech wins their bowl game. Our definition of self comes from us – not our conference, not our rivals, not media perception.
I think Texas has the better shot with DGB
by billfromlaketravis on Jan 15, 2012 9:02 PM CST up reply actions
playing the odds?
"We are who we are. People say what they say. The outcome is the outcome. We are proud of ourselves." -DeLoss Dodds 9/21/2011
I think they're about the same odds
Some of the current Texas players thought Edwards committed to Texas during his visit. It went that well.
by billfromlaketravis on Jan 15, 2012 9:10 PM CST up reply actions
Shoot - the Green Bay Packers would take DGB TODAY!
"We're Texas. We don’t derive our value or self-definition from conference affiliation.
If that strikes people as cocky, so what? It’s also true. None of us will chant our conference’s name when we have an off year and Texas Tech wins their bowl game. Our definition of self comes from us – not our conference, not our rivals, not media perception.
Good gosh, do you still shake xmas presents?
j/k
"Anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that 'my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.'"
― Isaac Asimov
by burntorangehorn on Jan 15, 2012 9:40 PM CST up reply actions
LOL - as a matter of fact, yes. Don't you?
"We're Texas. We don’t derive our value or self-definition from conference affiliation.
If that strikes people as cocky, so what? It’s also true. None of us will chant our conference’s name when we have an off year and Texas Tech wins their bowl game. Our definition of self comes from us – not our conference, not our rivals, not media perception.
Darron Thomas compares self to Cam Newton, declares for the draft...
Wonder how this surprising bit of news registered with our old friend Thomas Johnson?
I think the two are unrelated
Thomas’ weight at the Combine will be interesting.
by billfromlaketravis on Jan 15, 2012 8:46 PM CST up reply actions
I heard Russell Shepherd might declare too. Good luck with that.
"We're Texas. We don’t derive our value or self-definition from conference affiliation.
If that strikes people as cocky, so what? It’s also true. None of us will chant our conference’s name when we have an off year and Texas Tech wins their bowl game. Our definition of self comes from us – not our conference, not our rivals, not media perception.
Pretty unwise if Shepherd declares
by billfromlaketravis on Jan 15, 2012 8:54 PM CST up reply actions
RS initially declared for draft and then decided to return. He apparently had a run in with Les b4 the title game, maybe things cooled down. Or maybe he realized he would be a 6th rounder.
by TheContractor on Jan 15, 2012 9:40 PM CST up reply actions
Funny story about Cy Ridge (Shepherd's high school)
I actually was acquainted with their head coach while I was in high school. Coach Thiebaud is a really bright guy. He was supposed to be the guy at Langham Creek, but he didn’t want to wait and went to Cy Ridge.
by billfromlaketravis on Jan 15, 2012 8:57 PM CST up reply actions
Cy Ridge? For the life of me, I thought he played at at Alief Elsik
"We're Texas. We don’t derive our value or self-definition from conference affiliation.
If that strikes people as cocky, so what? It’s also true. None of us will chant our conference’s name when we have an off year and Texas Tech wins their bowl game. Our definition of self comes from us – not our conference, not our rivals, not media perception.
He was the DC at LC before moving on to Cy Ridge
by billfromlaketravis on Jan 15, 2012 9:01 PM CST up reply actions
LOL - I'm talking about Shepherd.
"We're Texas. We don’t derive our value or self-definition from conference affiliation.
If that strikes people as cocky, so what? It’s also true. None of us will chant our conference’s name when we have an off year and Texas Tech wins their bowl game. Our definition of self comes from us – not our conference, not our rivals, not media perception.
Haha
Shepherd played at Cy Ridge.
by billfromlaketravis on Jan 15, 2012 9:06 PM CST up reply actions
Memory is slipping then. Who was the hotshot that DID play at Elsik and went to LSU?
"We're Texas. We don’t derive our value or self-definition from conference affiliation.
If that strikes people as cocky, so what? It’s also true. None of us will chant our conference’s name when we have an off year and Texas Tech wins their bowl game. Our definition of self comes from us – not our conference, not our rivals, not media perception.
Think he was from Aldine
"Anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that 'my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.'"
― Isaac Asimov
by burntorangehorn on Jan 15, 2012 10:43 PM CST up reply actions
yep Eisenhower
"Three things can happen when you pass and two of 'em are bad."
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by 04'-05'-glorydays on Jan 16, 2012 12:52 AM CST up reply actions
kinda off topic
but what would y’all reccomend if I were interested in a UT news/inside info pay site? I get the feeling that InsideTexas is the way to go.
"Three things can happen when you pass and two of 'em are bad."
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by 04'-05'-glorydays on Jan 15, 2012 8:55 PM CST reply actions
oh Bill
I would give my soul for BON, just looking to expand my knowledge
"Three things can happen when you pass and two of 'em are bad."
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by 04'-05'-glorydays on Jan 15, 2012 9:03 PM CST up reply actions
I'd try a free trial at each
You should know which is better in a week. I still think y’all are much more informed that MANY of the paysites’ posters.
by billfromlaketravis on Jan 15, 2012 9:04 PM CST up reply actions
Those free trial weeks are hard to get out of without them charging your card. Very sneaky.
"If crime was justified by need it would be the occupation of the masses."- Chief Gillespie
Made the mistake of giving Bill my card once as a free trial.
Big. Mistake.
Oh. Aggies, I apologize; I forgot you were there. You may go now.
by pleaseplaykindle on Jan 15, 2012 10:47 PM CST up reply actions
how much do you like
having a recruiting database?
the 247 and rivals ones are alot better than anything IT has to offer on that front
247 is better than rivals.
orangebloods board is chock full of morons. 98% of it is unreadable..mccomas and suchomel are readable. everyone else there isnt. ketchum knows less about sports than you or i. it’s a crap deal.
inside texas is the classic old school site, they have guys that have heard stories for years, know everyone they need to etc etc. and they’ve got the new blood which is very nice of course.
really depends…i’d say inside texas or 24/7
This site is the best - followed by Recruitocosm and Barking Carnival.
Excellent and knowlegable writers at all three sites.
Pay site – IT got a little better with the addition of Tipsy Gypsie and Jesus Shuttlesworth.
The fact you are on this thread is what makes this site the best – I understand it HAS woin awards.
"We're Texas. We don’t derive our value or self-definition from conference affiliation.
If that strikes people as cocky, so what? It’s also true. None of us will chant our conference’s name when we have an off year and Texas Tech wins their bowl game. Our definition of self comes from us – not our conference, not our rivals, not media perception.
Seems like yesterday
When the q@a session was over at 6:00. Way to go Bill!!
by Stahldog on Jan 15, 2012 8:57 PM CST via mobile reply actions
Bill's having fun and he is consumed by all things UT, just like we are.
"We're Texas. We don’t derive our value or self-definition from conference affiliation.
If that strikes people as cocky, so what? It’s also true. None of us will chant our conference’s name when we have an off year and Texas Tech wins their bowl game. Our definition of self comes from us – not our conference, not our rivals, not media perception.
Agree, Great job BFLT. Really appreciate it!!!
by TheContractor on Jan 15, 2012 9:42 PM CST up reply actions
Marcell Harris
I think his recruitment is going to surprise a lot of people. I don’t think he’ll commit to Texas early, but Texas has a great shot of landing him. He seems to really like Akina.
by billfromlaketravis on Jan 15, 2012 9:07 PM CST reply actions
I would like him too when he's sent 11 of the last 12 DB's to the NFL/
"If crime was justified by need it would be the occupation of the masses."- Chief Gillespie
what happened at the KSU game between cobbs and d. white?
by GooberSmoocher on Jan 15, 2012 9:21 PM CST via mobile reply actions
Apparently there was some type of confrontation
Darius White said some impolite thinks and Cobbs took exception to them.
by billfromlaketravis on Jan 15, 2012 9:22 PM CST up reply actions
I heard White downgraded UT to DGB.
That ain’t good.
"We're Texas. We don’t derive our value or self-definition from conference affiliation.
If that strikes people as cocky, so what? It’s also true. None of us will chant our conference’s name when we have an off year and Texas Tech wins their bowl game. Our definition of self comes from us – not our conference, not our rivals, not media perception.
were these two different instances or did they run together?
by GooberSmoocher on Jan 15, 2012 9:29 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
same
"We are who we are. People say what they say. The outcome is the outcome. We are proud of ourselves." -DeLoss Dodds 9/21/2011
Why isn't anyone talking about Jalen Overstreet being our back up QB next year?
I watched his clips and he is sick!
"We're Texas. We don’t derive our value or self-definition from conference affiliation.
If that strikes people as cocky, so what? It’s also true. None of us will chant our conference’s name when we have an off year and Texas Tech wins their bowl game. Our definition of self comes from us – not our conference, not our rivals, not media perception.
i think as a passer, Jalen needs a RS year and some experience. can come in for wildcat for sure.
by TheContractor on Jan 15, 2012 10:28 PM CST up reply actions
I think the coaches would like Gray to work out in the Overstreet next season
by billfromlaketravis on Jan 15, 2012 10:36 PM CST up reply actions
in the Wildcat*
I think redshirting Overstreet is probably the coaches’ preference.
by billfromlaketravis on Jan 15, 2012 10:39 PM CST up reply actions
DGB will announce
At 3:15 pm CST February 1st at his high school in Springfield.
by billfromlaketravis on Jan 15, 2012 10:03 PM CST reply actions
Hmm, do we know of any confirmed events in his recruitment just before that?
Like in-homes, officials, etc.?
"Anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that 'my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.'"
― Isaac Asimov
by burntorangehorn on Jan 15, 2012 10:10 PM CST up reply actions
I think Mack will get an home during the contact period right before Signing Day
I believe the 30th and 31st are dead days.
by billfromlaketravis on Jan 15, 2012 10:14 PM CST up reply actions
is Feb 1st a black out date? bc there are rumors Mack and Harsin are to be doing the in home on 2/1. IF that is true, then we have a great chance!!
by TheContractor on Jan 15, 2012 10:29 PM CST up reply actions
Recruiting calendar
February 1st is a dead day. The last contact day is Saturday the 28th.
by billfromlaketravis on Jan 15, 2012 10:34 PM CST up reply actions
What is this "dead day" thing? Does it mean that recruits are off limits to coachs on those days?
"We're Texas. We don’t derive our value or self-definition from conference affiliation.
If that strikes people as cocky, so what? It’s also true. None of us will chant our conference’s name when we have an off year and Texas Tech wins their bowl game. Our definition of self comes from us – not our conference, not our rivals, not media perception.
by Snide Aside on Jan 15, 2012 10:42 PM CST up reply actions
Shoot, I was hoping if Harsin and Mack were there on the first it would mean they get to hand DGB a UT hat!
"We're Texas. We don’t derive our value or self-definition from conference affiliation.
If that strikes people as cocky, so what? It’s also true. None of us will chant our conference’s name when we have an off year and Texas Tech wins their bowl game. Our definition of self comes from us – not our conference, not our rivals, not media perception.
by Snide Aside on Jan 15, 2012 10:45 PM CST up reply actions
I'm a little confused on the "quiet" days
by billfromlaketravis on Jan 15, 2012 10:45 PM CST up reply actions
It means"Try to keep the noise down" :-)
"We're Texas. We don’t derive our value or self-definition from conference affiliation.
If that strikes people as cocky, so what? It’s also true. None of us will chant our conference’s name when we have an off year and Texas Tech wins their bowl game. Our definition of self comes from us – not our conference, not our rivals, not media perception.
by Snide Aside on Jan 15, 2012 10:46 PM CST up reply actions
Is that how it is in your retirement community?
"If crime was justified by need it would be the occupation of the masses."- Chief Gillespie
LOL - touche'
"We're Texas. We don’t derive our value or self-definition from conference affiliation.
If that strikes people as cocky, so what? It’s also true. None of us will chant our conference’s name when we have an off year and Texas Tech wins their bowl game. Our definition of self comes from us – not our conference, not our rivals, not media perception.
by Snide Aside on Jan 15, 2012 10:55 PM CST up reply actions
Means Indoor voices only
My kids are confused about that also
Texas has definitely reached out to D.J. Ward on Friday
He has an invite to the Junior Days. We’ll see if he makes it.
by billfromlaketravis on Jan 15, 2012 10:31 PM CST reply actions
If Mack ever retires I hope he stays with program as recruiting director, because he is dynamite as a recruiter.
"We're Texas. We don’t derive our value or self-definition from conference affiliation.
If that strikes people as cocky, so what? It’s also true. None of us will chant our conference’s name when we have an off year and Texas Tech wins their bowl game. Our definition of self comes from us – not our conference, not our rivals, not media perception.
I'm sure they would just make some rule forbidding that just like the new rule they made for Muschamp as coach in waiting.
"If crime was justified by need it would be the occupation of the masses."- Chief Gillespie
An assistant AD for football operations can certainly organize the strategy, help evaluate, etc.
But he could not actively recruit. Oh, a loophole would be if recruits were taken by his office to meet him while on their visits to campus. I am under the impression that would be entirely permissible.
"Anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that 'my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.'"
― Isaac Asimov
by burntorangehorn on Jan 15, 2012 10:58 PM CST up reply actions
yeah, he could be some consultant with recruiting and that would be great!! also, i think he will do some shows on LHN also!! Great gig, no pressure and keeps making the $. Hopes Sally continues to invite the kids over for those cookies!!
by TheContractor on Jan 15, 2012 11:15 PM CST up reply actions
Alright fellas I'm out
Have a good week.
by billfromlaketravis on Jan 15, 2012 11:22 PM CST reply actions
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