#2 Missouri at Texas: Open Game Thread
by Peter Bean on Jan 30, 2012 5:18 PM CST
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Game 22: #2 Missouri Tigers (19-2, 6-2) at Texas Longhorns (13-8, 3-5)
Monday, January 30, 2012 · 8:00 p.m. CT
Frank Erwin Center · Austin, TX
TV: ESPN (Brent Musburger, Bob Knight) · Radio: 1300 AM / 98.1 FM
First Meeting: Missouri 84 Texas 73
Ken Pom Projection: 73-72 Texas (67 Tempo)
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Uhhhh... 1st.
"I asked Darrell Royal, the coach of the Texas Longhorns, why he didn’t recruit me and he said: "Well, Walt, we took a look at you and you weren’t any good.
- Walt Garrison
by 512 on Jan 30, 2012 5:31 PM CST via mobile reply actions
gotta get that signature win
to give us a strong chance for the tourney. This is our best chance to do that so about as close as it could be I’d say
Signature win
can come tonight, in Lawrence, or Baylor at home. K-State at home would be nice too, but not quite as good as Mizzou, Baylor, or KU
that's true but i really feel this was our best chance at it
painful the way this one turned out
I'll be there liquored up and ready to go
hopefully lots of others will as well so we can actually have some sort of home court advantage for a change.
home court advantage,
isn’t there some ridiculous stat that we’ve only lost 10 games at home sense about 2007? I would classify that as a home court advantage.
Imagine how much better it would be if people went to games...
by Countachlpsx on Jan 30, 2012 7:41 PM CST up reply actions
I've always heard that the games are a blast.
Never gotten an opportunity to go to one though.
by HookemHouston on Jan 30, 2012 7:42 PM CST up reply actions
I've been to the last several games
with exception of the games during break the student section has been pretty full. Not going tonight bc of work, but will be there for TT sat.
haven't heard that
but it really doesn’t feel that way most of the time you’re there. I don’t expect us to be as tough as Duke and those types but a lot of the time it’s real dead.
I always feel guilty when I can't make it to games.
The student section is always so lifeless. I don’t get why there’s always a low turnout to all these big, nationally-televised games. Really hope we can pull off the upset! Must win in my eyes. Hook ’Em.
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are we going for another moral victory or do we hope to actually win the game?
sorry. too many close big games lately.
3rd Degree Longhorn
Sorry to go off topic
Any DGB updates from inside Texas or anywhere? All I’ve been hearing today is Mizzouri and Arkansas, I’m beginning to give up hope.
by Longhorn11 on Jan 30, 2012 6:47 PM CST via mobile reply actions
I just read on
www.ijusttotallymadethisbullshitup.com that he will rapel from the rafters and commit to UT at halftime. Pretty solid source too.
DGB!
Dorial Green-Beckham, top football recruit in the country this year.
by HookemHouston on Jan 30, 2012 8:10 PM CST up reply actions
actually ESPN150
has DGB as the #3 recruit behind Mario Edwards and Johnathan Gray
In The Morning To You
I stand corrected.
I knew some had him as #2, but not 3. And yet the aggies say trey williams is better….
by HookemHouston on Jan 30, 2012 8:13 PM CST up reply actions
Anyone heard anything on Ridley?
There was a story on his team yesterday on FSSW. I really hope this kid signs with us. He should be an impact guy right away.
Haha true true.
That was a little rash of me. Sorry txhorns. The more people who see that picture, the better ha!
by HookemHouston on Jan 30, 2012 7:43 PM CST up reply actions
and in reply to your question ha sometimes there is a stream on justin.tv
but i have no clue if there will be one tonight.
by HookemHouston on Jan 30, 2012 7:41 PM CST up reply actions
Oh shit!
I hope he didn’t predict armageddon in 2012 too or we’re all screwed…
by HookemHouston on Jan 30, 2012 7:55 PM CST up reply actions
Yeah
It still shows Committed to Oregon 1/30/13 AND committed to Texas 1/30/12.
but this would be great news
by Countachlpsx on Jan 30, 2012 7:55 PM CST up reply actions
assuming the first date was supposed to be 1/30/12
otherwise i am very confused ha.
by HookemHouston on Jan 30, 2012 7:57 PM CST up reply actions
Looks like GOBR Confirms as well.
Good Find!
by Countachlpsx on Jan 30, 2012 7:56 PM CST up reply actions
Hooray!
This is a very big, very good class haha. Mack was still hungry even after Daje’s sandwich!
by HookemHouston on Jan 30, 2012 7:58 PM CST up reply actions
Hmmm
Preferrably the agros, or even better Mizzou! (since according to those from misery DGB is a lock for them)
by HookemHouston on Jan 30, 2012 8:00 PM CST up reply actions
Different lineup
Lewis, jbongo, wangmene and holmes.
Hopefully this keeps chappy our of foul trouble
"There's more to it than just winning games" - Rick Barnes
by Mclovin1035 on Jan 30, 2012 7:45 PM CST via mobile reply actions
Cottrell Commits!!!!!!!!
"We are who we are. People say what they say. The outcome is the outcome. We are proud of ourselves." -DeLoss Dodds 9/21/2011
haha already in the know on here
"We are who we are. People say what they say. The outcome is the outcome. We are proud of ourselves." -DeLoss Dodds 9/21/2011
Here there's tons of empty seats tonight. Our basketball support is horrible.
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Stupid ESPN
The freaking pitt vs wvu game is dragging and it won’t show the one i actually care about ha
When the PG slides to the side of the defender on the break, I dont think that should ever be a charge
He needs to hit him in the chest to be a charge IMO
Well that was dumb on Jcovan
And a pile of crap that we didnt get the foul on the other side
cant really get calls anywhere
See Arizona last year
by Countachlpsx on Jan 30, 2012 8:21 PM CST up reply actions
and barnes parking his ass on the bench all game
doesnt seem to get him any favors
by Countachlpsx on Jan 30, 2012 8:23 PM CST up reply actions
im starting to believe
our players just foul alot and have a reputation of doing so…therefore dont get the breaks
by Countachlpsx on Jan 30, 2012 8:27 PM CST up reply actions
and the home town calls go to
Mizzou…. Going to be a long long long night
by RQ on Jan 30, 2012 8:22 PM CST via iPhone app reply actions
Would we be better off in the PAC16?
"We are who we are. People say what they say. The outcome is the outcome. We are proud of ourselves." -DeLoss Dodds 9/21/2011
This year
Yea. The pac top to bottom is terrible.
i meant in calls
we’d kill in the big sports…
"We are who we are. People say what they say. The outcome is the outcome. We are proud of ourselves." -DeLoss Dodds 9/21/2011
I watch a lot of Pac games
and the refs are equally terrible. I’m not kidding all fan bases complain…
All the post players looking good so far...
Blocks & strong rebounds already by Holmes, Bond, Wingman
PLEASE MAKE
"We are who we are. People say what they say. The outcome is the outcome. We are proud of ourselves." -DeLoss Dodds 9/21/2011
Mizzou has a good offense.
I like there screens away from the ball.
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how does mizzou get away with slapping everything
And no fouls.
by RQ on Jan 30, 2012 8:33 PM CST via iPhone app reply actions
Can we start our offense sooner in the shot clock? Holy crap
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WTF?
"We are who we are. People say what they say. The outcome is the outcome. We are proud of ourselves." -DeLoss Dodds 9/21/2011
was that a breakaway foul
Or is that even a rule in college?
by RQ on Jan 30, 2012 8:35 PM CST via iPhone app reply actions
wouldnt have mattered
there was another missouri player between him and the basket
by Countachlpsx on Jan 30, 2012 8:38 PM CST up reply actions
Mizzou 7-20 fgs Texas 6-20
3pts
Mizzou 1
Texas 0
Rebounds
Texas 13
Mizzou 8
what happened to wingmans FTs
Everyone is off to the left
by RQ on Jan 30, 2012 8:41 PM CST via iPhone app reply actions
Texas should know this offense
They have run it forever.
The never ran it with that back door.
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Biggest difference from this game from Lawrence
Our interior play looks good and limiting transition/early shots for Mizzou
Zing!
"Hey, don't y'all think that's beautiful right there? That crystal is SO beautiful. And it's coming home to Texas." - Vince Young
at home...
"We are who we are. People say what they say. The outcome is the outcome. We are proud of ourselves." -DeLoss Dodds 9/21/2011
Welcome to Texas Basketball under Rick Barnes...
by Countachlpsx on Jan 30, 2012 8:47 PM CST up reply actions
At basketball schools
they give more lower seats to the students and not to the alums. Can’t even find the students at a Texas home game.
3rd Degree Longhorn
Apparently
You haven’t been to McKale Center in Tucson. Students get put into a lottery for a few hundred tickets. The rest of the arena is filled with super old alum and its fipping quiet. I can’t figure out how they ever win at home.
Good play call
That would have helped to loosen up that zone…still might have.
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Were minimizing our turnovers but just not converting enough shots...
Cant win shooting under 30%
Man, this is really painful.
It’s like we don’t realize how big a game this is.
"Hey, don't y'all think that's beautiful right there? That crystal is SO beautiful. And it's coming home to Texas." - Vince Young
I disagree a little... I think the effort is there
We have just been terrible shooting in almost every 1st half of conference games. If we keep this within 6 I like our chances 2nd half
How about now?
It’s like we just don’t give a fuck.
"Hey, don't y'all think that's beautiful right there? That crystal is SO beautiful. And it's coming home to Texas." - Vince Young
This team would make the greatest ever horse shoe team
Everything is 2 inches from being awesome… Multiple rim outs, near steals, missed passes
by RQ on Jan 30, 2012 8:48 PM CST via iPhone app reply actions
i thought Chap should be able to score with impunity
but then I saw Moore pushing him wherever he wanted – not strong enough
Wow another turnover... thats 8
The only good thing is they’ve been out of bounds
Wow...Way to look like you care J'Covan
Field Goal % has to be under 30…
Wow, that was just careless........
Man, this team just seems out of it.
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which is kind of shocking
with all the defensive mistakes
Pretty sure that was all ball...
but whatever…
it was a clean as his block of chap on the other end
But whatever…no reason to call it both ways
by RQ on Jan 30, 2012 8:55 PM CST via iPhone app up reply actions
We can only score 22 points in a half.
Pathetic.
"Hey, don't y'all think that's beautiful right there? That crystal is SO beautiful. And it's coming home to Texas." - Vince Young
Halftime Stats
Mizzou 11-29 FG 1-8 3pt
Texas 9-28 FG 0-6 3pt
Rebounds Texas 19 (7 offensive) Mizzou 14 (2 off)
Leadings Scorers
Mizzou Dixon & Phil Pressey 8
Texas Jlewis 8 JCB 4
JCB
Needs to start chunking it up there like he has been lately. I’d imagine that he had a little chat about shot selection with barnes following the last shot vs baylor.
by HookemHouston on Jan 30, 2012 9:02 PM CST up reply actions
Need a strong half from J'Bongo
Myck a no show half with 2 fouls, JCB gets 4 pts in the last 4 minutes
Chapman has also been MIA
Misery's big boy's arms
Make Chap’s look like twigs
by HookemHouston on Jan 30, 2012 9:03 PM CST up reply actions
Who doesn't love the Jumbaco?
Besides your digestive system… it’s dont get much betta
chap not strong enough
to post against Moore or Ratliffe
so take advantage of his midrange game or cuts to the hoop w/ passes up high
On the positive side: Texas Recruiting
3 flips this week. Got one from TCU, UTenn and now Oregon. Welcome Contrell!
3rd Degree Longhorn
2 cheap fouls
Won’t be the first in the bonus this half
by RQ on Jan 30, 2012 9:16 PM CST via iPhone app reply actions
I would like to watch a game with a 20 whistle limit.
Make those whistles count.
3rd Degree Longhorn
Kabongo: "Here you go, buddy. Have fun hitting that completely double-teamed shot."
"Hey, don't y'all think that's beautiful right there? That crystal is SO beautiful. And it's coming home to Texas." - Vince Young
if you can't stand in the lane
Set on the bench
by RQ on Jan 30, 2012 9:18 PM CST via iPhone app reply actions
Eh? He pushed him from behind and he went backwards?
I need to see that again.
by TheElusiveShadow on Jan 30, 2012 9:18 PM CST reply actions
Hopefully he feels the same way.
"Hey, don't y'all think that's beautiful right there? That crystal is SO beautiful. And it's coming home to Texas." - Vince Young
Fun fact
Mizzou is running away from the Big 12 having won exactly FOUR conference titles in any sport. Four. Counting all sports, men’s and women’s. Four!
76-37-5. Now GTFO.
and none in Football
yet some of them think they have a better shot of winning a Title in the short term than Texas…
In The Morning To You
Stroking Dixon. What's new?
"Hey, don't y'all think that's beautiful right there? That crystal is SO beautiful. And it's coming home to Texas." - Vince Young
Still plenty of time
But an 11 point deficit feels like a mountain to climb when we scored a paltry 22 in the first half.
by TheElusiveShadow on Jan 30, 2012 9:21 PM CST reply actions
See the last missouri game...
Not a guarantee to cool off
by Countachlpsx on Jan 30, 2012 9:24 PM CST up reply actions
Our offense tonight, Wingman posting up?
Eh I’ll go for it
No assists. LOL, pathetic.
"Hey, don't y'all think that's beautiful right there? That crystal is SO beautiful. And it's coming home to Texas." - Vince Young
Bond needs to play a lot more.
"Hey, don't y'all think that's beautiful right there? That crystal is SO beautiful. And it's coming home to Texas." - Vince Young
It was the pre-game buffet, wears off around the second half every game.
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will Haith's TO doors job
Or can we keep up the D and turn it to easy O
by RQ on Jan 30, 2012 9:26 PM CST via iPhone app reply actions
Maybe that's why Bond doesn't play more.
"Hey, don't y'all think that's beautiful right there? That crystal is SO beautiful. And it's coming home to Texas." - Vince Young
must make the stop worth it
And score to get it 4 or maybe even in half to 3
by RQ on Jan 30, 2012 9:32 PM CST via iPhone app up reply actions
We are heating up from 3... from 0-8 to 1-10
Heat check anyone?
What idiot fan is screaming before JCB shoots a FT?
"Hey, don't y'all think that's beautiful right there? That crystal is SO beautiful. And it's coming home to Texas." - Vince Young
We let them in? We should require them to wear muzzles.
"Hey, don't y'all think that's beautiful right there? That crystal is SO beautiful. And it's coming home to Texas." - Vince Young
I kind of disagree with Knight there
I wish Kabongo shot that. Sigh.
by TheElusiveShadow on Jan 30, 2012 9:40 PM CST reply actions
sick of these bail-out calls
Holmes had closed out nicely just before
just can't take the game over.
some fans standing but they don’t look like they know what to do once they get on their feet. Don’t they watch games at MSU or UNC or Duke. Act like you support your hometown Horns!
3rd Degree Longhorn
let is get close
And our hopes up and now let the calls rip out our heart
by RQ on Jan 30, 2012 9:43 PM CST via iPhone app reply actions
I fucking
HATE, HATE, HATE, HATE BRENT MUFFBERGER!!!!!!!!
Officiating
has been so horrendous lately that it is tough for me to even watch a game these days. We can’t catch a break – home or away or neutral site.
"Sectional football games have the glory and the despair of war, and when a Texas team takes the field against a foreign state, it is an army with banners."
~John Steinbeck
by HazzardousHorns on Jan 30, 2012 9:43 PM CST reply actions
there is
Some truly one sided officiating tonight. Shameful
by cade21 on Jan 30, 2012 9:44 PM CST via iPhone app reply actions
Yay!
Epic screw up on defense followed by pissing the bed on offense
Kabango
Didn’t come to play tonight, at all.
Well, look at the brite-side. Doubtful that he will declare for the NBA draft this year.
ugh, change to zone
they’re killing us with the pick & roll
how does mizzou get away with every reaching foul
Its all reputation. And sucks!!!!!!
by RQ on Jan 30, 2012 9:50 PM CST via iPhone app reply actions
I don't know why Barnes is so stubborn or just doesnt see these things
How many times does a team have to run a set and score before you call timeout and adjust?
5 mins left to either win or we are NIT bound
Point blank
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Well...
Hopefully DGB didnt say “whoever wins this basketball game is where I will go…”
Home court advantage?
Our advantage is their fans aren’t there. But then neither are ours.
3rd Degree Longhorn
sucks when you dont even fill half your stadium on average gameday
Should just go play at gregory gym…at least itll be intense in there…
by Countachlpsx on Jan 30, 2012 9:54 PM CST up reply actions
Ballgame!
wow, the suckage is horrible this year
I think that's it.
Sigh. That soccer steal and flagrant foul really seemed to take the wind out of us.
by TheElusiveShadow on Jan 30, 2012 9:53 PM CST reply actions
Game
NO offense…translates to lazy defense…Hate to see it happen again…this team hasnt earned a spot in the tournament
Can't get everything going in the same game. FT shooting, foul trouble, poor shooting, turnovers....always something
And this team isn’t good enough to overcome those issues. Their margin of error is razor thin
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*Facepalm
But at least we held and get free throws, but we lost some precious time.
by TheElusiveShadow on Jan 30, 2012 9:58 PM CST reply actions
Must protect the corner and baseline cut.
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Let's do something new for a change..
And freaking win!
by HookemHouston on Jan 30, 2012 10:00 PM CST via mobile reply actions
His jumping off his defender leaving the basket open
fixed by the offensive board…
by Countachlpsx on Jan 30, 2012 10:02 PM CST up reply actions
Mizzou is some entitled punks, thinking they should be able to elbow us in the face.
"Hey, don't y'all think that's beautiful right there? That crystal is SO beautiful. And it's coming home to Texas." - Vince Young
I <3 JLew.
"Hey, don't y'all think that's beautiful right there? That crystal is SO beautiful. And it's coming home to Texas." - Vince Young
it sounded like the crowd said
“Give’em Hell, Give’em Hell DGB” sounded like that on tv
In The Morning To You
2 man game with the vets
Brown and Chap for the bucket
by RQ on Jan 30, 2012 10:05 PM CST via iPhone app reply actions
Finally, some officiating going our way. About time! Exactly what we needed
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Great...
Not sure where the help D was there.
by TheElusiveShadow on Jan 30, 2012 10:06 PM CST reply actions
Give the ball to JCB, if he gets doubled give it to the open man for once!
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Everyone's expecting JCB to get the shot.
Why not mix it up and give it to JLew or McClellan?
"Hey, don't y'all think that's beautiful right there? That crystal is SO beautiful. And it's coming home to Texas." - Vince Young
Kabongo would be a fitting end to an up and down game by him
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Because then the whole team stands around,
Barnes yells “What’s the matter with you guys”, and JCB says ""I’ll make it."
Free at last!
We're gonna run the same play we did against Arizona
This time JCB makes the right pass
76-37-5. Now GTFO.
UGHHHHHHHHHHHHH
"Hey, don't y'all think that's beautiful right there? That crystal is SO beautiful. And it's coming home to Texas." - Vince Young
WHY GOD WHY!
"Hey, don't y'all think that's beautiful right there? That crystal is SO beautiful. And it's coming home to Texas." - Vince Young
+1
"Hey, don't y'all think that's beautiful right there? That crystal is SO beautiful. And it's coming home to Texas." - Vince Young
by LookinForIt on Jan 30, 2012 10:10 PM CST up reply actions
God damnit
Rick Barnes. COACH THE FUCKING TEAM. that was not a play…that was the stupidest basketball ive ever seen
Ugh
We can’t close these out, can we?
by TheElusiveShadow on Jan 30, 2012 10:10 PM CST reply actions
terrible terrible terrible!!!!!!!!!!
by RQ on Jan 30, 2012 10:10 PM CST via iPhone app reply actions
Or dramatic, at least.
"Hey, don't y'all think that's beautiful right there? That crystal is SO beautiful. And it's coming home to Texas." - Vince Young
by LookinForIt on Jan 30, 2012 10:10 PM CST up reply actions
yeah your right.
Fuk, they need to practice EOG scenarios.
I agree they are young, this is exactly when Rick needs to be more hands on and directive
I am tired of these horrible late game sets or lack there of
by HornsUpInLA on Jan 30, 2012 10:13 PM CST up reply actions
It hurts to lose like that for what seems like the 10th time, but these kids are
hanging with top 10 teams and going down to the last possession. They are over-achieving.
You play long enough, you get some experience
That’s the issue here people. Sorry it doesn’t fit the easy “Rick Barnes sux” narrative.
76-37-5. Now GTFO.
They are not unlucky
they do not have a coach that can draw up a winning play in winning time. And it has been that way for years. Take off your rose colored glasses Bean.
by pantherchap on Jan 30, 2012 10:47 PM CST up reply actions
So all we need to do is win the big 12 tourney
and were IN!
With a coach
that has never won a post-season tourney.
by pantherchap on Jan 30, 2012 10:48 PM CST up reply actions
DAMNIT
Are you effing kidding me
by HookemHouston on Jan 30, 2012 10:10 PM CST via mobile reply actions
*Dammit
"Hey, don't y'all think that's beautiful right there? That crystal is SO beautiful. And it's coming home to Texas." - Vince Young
by LookinForIt on Jan 30, 2012 10:11 PM CST up reply actions
I've been a Barnes apologist for the last 2 years, but it just gets harder to defend the lack of coaching
in end game scenarios
What's there to apologize for?
God, our fans are such vaginas.
76-37-5. Now GTFO.
by Peter Bean on Jan 30, 2012 10:12 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Why not call a TO once they show zone and the play they had is off...
Thats coaching 101 no? I love coach Barnes in general I just think he needs to change his end game approach
by HornsUpInLA on Jan 30, 2012 10:14 PM CST up reply actions
Sorry, I'm frustrated as well
I just get pissed off when it’s clear what our issues are and people retreat to “It must be Barnes.” That’s naive, useless commentary, and I know you know better.
76-37-5. Now GTFO.
this is my first beef with Barnes
& coaching staff? they had a timeout to call and the guys clearly needed one
Right, agreed. Generally I like the let them play it out strategy at the end of games
I just have yet to see this team in particular be successful at it. The team is oh so close… I just want them to be rewarded for this effort but there is plenty of blame to go around.
Clearly we can’t expect to win when our best players give us 1 half of play each game. Cant remember a game where Chap, JCB, Myck or any other gave us 2 full haves
by HornsUpInLA on Jan 30, 2012 10:19 PM CST up reply actions
Would you say
that Barnes was outcoached tonight or not?
No
No one was outcoached. Their experienced team made one more bucket than our young team.
Everyone wants to make it about the coaches all the time. They shouldn’t.
76-37-5. Now GTFO.
If Missouri loses that game
Haith would be trending on Twitter. “What an idiot! He didn’t know how to protect the lead!”
This is the reactionary mindset. Sorry, I hate it.
76-37-5. Now GTFO.
Like how the aggies
Fired their football coach because they couldn’t accept the fact that they just suck ass
by HookemHouston on Jan 30, 2012 10:25 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
don't know
his players clearly got outplayed
don't forget chappy
My little cousin weighs as much as him.
by HookemHouston on Jan 30, 2012 10:23 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Barnes' team lost to the #4 team in the country with 3 Freshman starters
Haith made a great call to switch to zone, but you can’t pin this on Barnes.
"Well, a guy did a Horns down to him. You just shouldn’t do that."
How? You see your team is startled, have a TO in your pockets, and don't use it. FOR WHAT? Let them play? They are FRESHMAN
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If your going to let them play
then dont call the first timeout and give missouri a chance to set a play.
by Countachlpsx on Jan 30, 2012 10:24 PM CST up reply actions
Barnes...
has had golden opportunities to get a signature win in the last two weeks and just has not shown the ability to coach in the final seconds of a ball game. He has had soooo many chances to improve in this area and he just doesn’t. You cannot win championships, and I’ll take a freakin’ conference championship, if you cannot draw up winning plays at the end of games and have your team execute them. How many blown end of games and collapses do you need over ten years to not realize that we have the wrong man as head coach?
by pantherchap on Jan 30, 2012 10:28 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
+1
Unfortunately the fanbase doesn’t care enough. They will always be content with his mediocrity. Its an Inconvenient Truth if you will.
I wish he’d learn how to coach, I really hate having to rip on the guy. I want to be proven wrong by him, and have to apologize. He just seems to not get it. One of the worst late game offensive coaches in the college basketball
"There's more to it than just winning games" - Rick Barnes
by Mclovin1035 on Jan 31, 2012 12:54 AM CST up reply actions
It is Barnes
What’s the constant to the teams not being able to execute at all down the stretch? Its Barnes. If you insist on being blind about it, that’s fine with me. But when it comes down to having his team execute ( any team of his) he is the worst. Need I remind you about 2009-2010 and 2010-2011? Can’t blame inexperience on that
"There's more to it than just winning games" - Rick Barnes
by Mclovin1035 on Jan 31, 2012 12:51 AM CST up reply actions
No Vaginas don't have eyes.
Maybe your the vagina because you sure are getting… by this coach
by pantherchap on Jan 30, 2012 10:49 PM CST up reply actions
fought hard again and threw it away. Had 27 seconds on the clock but didn't know WTF to do when they faced the zone, so we just pissed the time away
I thought Myck was fouled but still a piss poor way to end the game.
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I'll bet if we made it to the tournament that we would only lose by a point or two.
but lose we would.
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Either way you look at it, we lost because we couldn't execute AGAIN for the full 40 mins. There's only so much you can do with so little time that was left
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The freshman argument
does not fly anymore. In the era of one and done, you have to be good right out of the gate in this game. Barnes has talent that should be over looking that lost at the end of games like they have over the last two weeks.
by pantherchap on Jan 30, 2012 10:30 PM CST up reply actions
Would be a different story
If this is a abnormality.Its not though, regardless of our experience we lose late games bc of our coach. That’s it.
"There's more to it than just winning games" - Rick Barnes
by Mclovin1035 on Jan 30, 2012 11:40 PM CST up reply actions
Rick Barnes is trending on Twitter right now for, well, being Rick Barnes.
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Before this stretch I was prepared for the worse
and now that it’s happening I still get pissed. playing close and losing is so frustrating.
Each loss gets progressively worse and worse to handle
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Plenty of blame to go around... the players need to look themselves in the mirror
And figure our what they need to do to play 2 full halves. This team IS NOT GOOD ENOUGH to play good to great for a half and win. We need to come out of the gates better & we need to close games better.
Ha these losses would be way easier to handle
If we were just getting shit on week in, week out. But instead we are so close and we can’t get it.
by HookemHouston on Jan 30, 2012 10:22 PM CST via mobile reply actions
i want to ask if close quality losses count for resume sakes for at large bids....
but then I remember we are 13-9, and 3-6 in conference.
I'm sorry... I have to say it
Barnes stood over there at home with the play in front of him. His freshman PG and other young guards (save J’Covan who is new to the stud role though) are thoroughly confused by the zone with 13 freakin’ seconds left and he doesn’t call timeout. Bonehead. His protege thoroughly outcoaches him. After watching all the blown close games you have seen in the last two weeks, you have to conclude this guy cannot coach in the big time. He can recruit. He can teach defense. But he cannot coach offense and stinks at the end of games. He also brings no passion to the floor making our guys a tough watch on television.
Oh please
A) You’re not sorry to say it. You don’t like Barnes.
B) Give me a break. If Dixon misses that shot and Texas wins, everyone’s talking about what a fool Haith is for how he coached Mizzou with a 10 point lead with 2 minutes left.
Seriously, this is ridiculous. All of you. It’s reactionary. Not commentary.
76-37-5. Now GTFO.
Well,
I do think that Haith coached poorly to let UT back in the ballgame.
However, at the end of the day – a timeout wouldn’t have been a bad idea. All of these close losses have to be accounted for and I am a Rick Barnes supporter.
I just don’t think he is getting it done this season… atleast he didn’t just try to hand the ball off to JCB and attempt a wild shot to end this one.
Great coaching will win close games in most sports…
It starts to become commentary
when we’ve done this 4 out of 6 games. 4 out of 6 games shouldn’t come down to the wire and end up going against Texas 4 out of those 4. At least one of these should
TEXAS FIGHT
Sorry Peter
You are wrong. This is ten years of the same stuff at the end of games. How many times does our coach look lost at the end of games? Constantly. Oh Please yourself.
by pantherchap on Jan 30, 2012 10:32 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
By the way.
I’m sorry to say is just a way to start a post nothing more… you know that. You are right, I don’t like Barnes. I thought he was a bad hire and I think his record proves me right. (no tournament championships… none… not even conference… even with an incredible amount of talent) It’s not reactionary when you have plenty of evidence to back up your arguments as well.
by pantherchap on Jan 30, 2012 10:35 PM CST up reply actions
Bad hire?
Your credibility just jumped off the ledge.
"Well, a guy did a Horns down to him. You just shouldn’t do that."
Dude
A. Pantherchap and I have agreed on a lot. I’m going to go out on a limb and say that He/She doesn’t dislike barnes, and would rather him get the job done at the end of the games. That being said, he fails epically at that. Nothing personal against Barnes, but I want a winning team not this crap from the past 4 seasons.
B.I agree Haith coached horribly at the end, but the team won. it was 10 point with 4 minutes left not 2. There’s a big difference.
Its been the same thing for years. YEARS. Literally since Augustin was here we have not been able to win a big game late.
"There's more to it than just winning games" - Rick Barnes
by Mclovin1035 on Jan 30, 2012 11:14 PM CST up reply actions
GAAAAAAAAAAAAA
This last second crap is so frustrating. I get my hopes up and then they just get crushed over and over again. Why does the last 30 seconds seem impossible for this team to play?
TEXAS FIGHT
Conspiracy theory anyone?
1) the refs don’t want us to win b/c they hate ut like seemingly everyone
2) misery wants to look good for dgb, so they paid the refs
3) blOU rerouted their winds into the drum somehow to prevent the ball from falling into the basket
by HookemHouston on Jan 30, 2012 10:31 PM CST via mobile reply actions
shit
Not refs. Officials. I feel so dumb right now.
by HookemHouston on Jan 30, 2012 10:31 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
The only narrative that is really missing about Barnes
Is much like the narrative for Coach Mack Brown this year. Barnes, this season, is paying for sins of seasons past. He recruited Wangmene and Chapman. He was unable to convince Cory Joseph that a season in the D League is much worse than another year on the 40. Varez Ward escaped out the backdoor for some reason and I thought he was going to be the star. These all fall on Barnes.
Wins and losses this year are a direct reflection on Barnes, although it may not reflect much of the actual coaching job he’s done this year. He had 3 NBA caliber players last year (4 if you count JCovan) and couldn’t win the conference and he has 1 or 2 this year and you’re seeing the results of that disparity.
We're frustrated because we see so much potential with this group of guys.
If they were losing by 10+, no one would give a damn. Because they have been losing so close against top competition shows exactly how far this team has come and how good of a coaching job Barnes has done. Sure, the occasional mental lapses happen. It’s expected. You want your young team to grow on there own. A coach can only do so much.
This team has exceeded a lot of people’s expectations coming into this season. Our record is not indicative as to how good we are. If we can finish strong the rest of the way, maybe make the NCAA tourney or at the least a strong run in the NIT, return all our started, we’ll be fine! Remember, 5 freshman playing (6 if you wanna count Gibbs) is tough for any coach to deal with.
I have come to my senses and fully support Barnes and the coaching job he has done so far this year. Hook ’Em!
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Unbelievable
Some of you really need to get a grip.
Yes, you can complain about recruiting. Or losing guys to the NBA. Or whatever-the-hell you want to complain about.
This incredibly young, inexperienced team just played the No. 2 team in the nation down to the wire and lost by 1.
And all you do is gripe and complain?!?! Really?!?!?!?
Watch out, I bite.
by EddieTheAlbinoSquirrel on Jan 30, 2012 10:35 PM CST reply actions
Yes we complain
When we see some one make the same mistakes over and over again. We complain. Our coach stinks in winning time. He cannot get his team to execute a well-designed play at the end of a tight game. He has shown that failure year after year after year. Your post would be valid if tonight was an isolated event, even limited to this year. But watching your team panic with 13 seconds left because they are facing a defense they weren’t expecting and you have a timeout in your pocket and don’t use it? It’s just more of the same with our coach.
by pantherchap on Jan 30, 2012 10:39 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I don't complain about tits team
because my expectations weren’t that high coming into the season. But it’s frustrating to watch these kids bust their butts and come up short so many times against elite competition. They’re not losing due to a lack of effort. They’re just limited in some areas. Regardless of what happens this season, it’s comforting to know they’ve built a solid foundation for the next couple years. Hook’em!
Cory Jospeh was playing for the Spurs last night.
The Last 4-5 years so much exceptional talent has come and gone, we tend to let our expectations get out of control. This what a team of normally talented freshman looks like. It ’s gets better but it may take another season or 2.
I didn't realize CoJo was back playing in the league
That’s great news for Cory.
yup
Backup pg for the spurs
by HookemHouston on Jan 30, 2012 10:42 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
I have to agree with Peter
Barnes has taken this very young team from looking like the pile of crap that they were vs nc state and oregon state to competing with very tough teams in ku, ksu, bu, and mu. Obviously we haven’t gotten the results that we want but that will come eventually. Heck, I was hoping that we would just keep it withing 20 in this stretch of 6 games and we have done much better than that. Next year we will be a force to be reckoned with, and even if we make it to the dance.
by HookemHouston on Jan 30, 2012 10:39 PM CST via mobile reply actions
Winners don't make these kinds of excuses
in the one and done era. He’s got enough talent to be in position to win these games. He just does not know how to draw up a winning play when it matters. This is an x and o fatal flaw in our coach.
by pantherchap on Jan 30, 2012 10:45 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
This
Its Texas, we should be better. I’ll give you a pass this season, that’s fair
But no excuses for the way the last 2 seasons ended. Wanna give that an excuse?
Okay! Let’s excuse 08-09 bc we lacked a PG, bc Jcovan wasn’t here. And we almost beat Dook ( keyword almost)
Also let’s excuse 06-07 for our team being all froshes, minus Abrams( and some Atchley)
and 04-05 bc of Tucker being inelgible and Aldridge getting hurt
Damn Barnes has a good resume now. Except we can’t do that. Texas has failed to make it past the 1st weekend of the tourney 4 of 5( soon to be 5 of 6) seasons. No excuses, bad coaching and fundamentals
"There's more to it than just winning games" - Rick Barnes
by Mclovin1035 on Jan 30, 2012 11:06 PM CST up reply actions
When it comes down to it
This is a really young team that put themselves in position to win a couple really big games. It sucks we didn’t pull it out, but I can’t say I’m dissapointed with the effort. Gritty team.
I just wish our offense wasn’t totally predicated on j’covan scoring, or second chance buckets (which we got a ton of tonight). I love second chance buckets as anyone should, but we gotta have more than that and j’covan.
Let’s win out and make a run in the b12 tourney.
by Longhorn11 on Jan 30, 2012 10:41 PM CST via mobile reply actions
Hey Peter....
remember this piece of brillant coaching? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P1YnApiB6T8&feature=related
Oh please
Don’t get me started… I’ve discussed this plenty at BON so I’m not going to do it again here.
In fact, that’s a great example of Barnes’ players letting him down, not the other way around. Remember Jordan Hamilton’s brilliant timeout?
76-37-5. Now GTFO.
Not to mention yet another game where we simply lost because the officials choked
Try again.
76-37-5. Now GTFO.
Wake 2 years ago? Up 76-68 with 3 minutes left
What about the epic collapse the entire season? Is that completely on the players? How about not being able to shoot free throws ( 10-27 from the line in Norman, which I’ll put on the players, a coach can’t be that bad) EVERY year? At least recently, and by that I mean now its been 5 going on 6 seasons since we were a good FT shooting team. I agree Hamilton’s time out was awful and we were screwed by the officials, but the way we lost was typical Barnes.
I just don’t see how this all adds up to it being the players. Maybe they don’t execute, but Barnes doesn’t seem to put them in a position to succeed late in close games. That’s my biggest gripe with him. Also that he hasn’t accomplished much since 07-08.
"There's more to it than just winning games" - Rick Barnes
Augie
He’s by far our best coach on the 40 acres.
Thank god it’s almost baseball season.
This
Didn’t make it to nearly enough games last year, gonna change that this season.
by Longhorn11 on Jan 30, 2012 11:01 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Yup
Jerritt elliot is pretty good as well though, and Mack should have 2 titles as well. Augie is by far the best
"There's more to it than just winning games" - Rick Barnes
by Mclovin1035 on Jan 30, 2012 11:17 PM CST up reply actions
Barnes
It’s unacceptable to be down by one point with 20 seconds to go, and only get one shot attempt. Regardless of a man or zone defense applied by Haith. Every single coach on our bench and every single player should know you the situation. You go for a shot at around the 10 second mark..worst case, you miss, they rebound, you foul, they make both free throws, AND then you get another shot for the tie and OT. Otherwise, we miss, maybe we get an offensive put back or rebound to reset, maybe they only make one or zero free throws, we go for the win or tie with our second possesion.
Instead, we wait, get one shot attempt and lose. Of course ppl will say, if Myck makes that shot, you aren’t bringing all this up. Even if Myck makes the shot, its the wrong way to approach the situation. You always extend the game as much as possible and give yourself the best and most possible chances to win. I don’t care if we don’t execute because we miss shots, but I feel like we misplayed or miscoached (doesn’t matter which) that situation about as poorly as you can approach a situation
Agreed. Barnes always does this. Really it is to be expected.
I said to myself down 10 with 3:57 left, we are going to come back and lose late. Sure enough we did. And we didn’t even have time to foul to maybe have 3 seconds left to try to hit a 3 or 2.
Awful managment
"There's more to it than just winning games" - Rick Barnes
by Mclovin1035 on Jan 30, 2012 11:38 PM CST up reply actions
for what it's worth
we had a play called whether they guarded us man or zone on the last play. Kabongo missed a makeable shot — he might’ve also passed back out to JCB who was then open on the arc.
guys gotta play all out every possession on both ends of the floor — until everybody does that, we’ll have trouble winning against the toughest competition.
but we have come close to beating 3 of the top 8 teams in the country in the last few days (playing 5 freshmen) – that ain’t bad
and it sure as hell hurts them a lot worse than it hurts any of us
MIZ DGB
MIZZOU SWEEPS TEXAS IN FOOTBALL AND BASKETBALL.
Throws the middle finger to your conference.. heads to the SEC.
Gets a former 5 star WR to transfer to MU, and will get DGB instead of you.
GO TO HELL.
Please take d white
We don’t want him, and we don’t want you in the big 12. Wvu and tcu are consistently better teams. Have fun licking the dirt off of sabans shoes
by HookemHouston on Jan 31, 2012 6:35 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
LOL
D. White
Idk if I’d be proud of being a program desperate for him. When was the last time Mizzou was relevant in anything? Just wondering
"There's more to it than just winning games" - Rick Barnes
WHO WOULD HAVE THOUGHT
Who would have thought any of that above statement would have been true a year ago…
Haha… eat it you ego driven pukes.
Kabongo
He is turnover prone and seriously wanting on D. Perhaps he should be a spot player instead of the “goto” PG.
Chapman may be good enough now to allow us to play more inside-out stuff.
Holmes and Bond could play at the same time because of the effort they seem to bring.
Well, we add one more victory to our long list of moral victories this season.
Does that figure into bracketology? NIT here we come!!
I blame barnes for not calling a time out. I blame the fans for sitting on their asses the whole game. And I blame the basketball gods for another close game that goes the wrong way.
FIRE the Basketball Gods!!
3rd Degree Longhorn
well.. theres the problem...
.JPG)
No wonder the final shot was short…
JD’s like, "you want some f*&#ing pitching? Here’s all the pitching you can stand. Now choke on it, b*#&hes!"- RCCook
LSB: "Oh s#*t, JD. You crazy!"
I know...
hurts.. a lot… but then again we were picking up fouls left and right last night, so I am not surprised we didn’t get the call
JD’s like, "you want some f*&#ing pitching? Here’s all the pitching you can stand. Now choke on it, b*#&hes!"- RCCook
LSB: "Oh s#*t, JD. You crazy!"
Regardless
It was an awful play at the end. It looked totally rushed even though we got the ball with 31 seconds left in the game. The sequence reminded me of the 2009 Big XII championship with Colt casually throwing the ball away with no sense of urgency. Bad play calling at the end by Barnes, and refs usually swallow the whistle late. Can Barnes learn to not have his players wait till 8 seconds left to do something with the ball? Especially in that situation it was awful execution, like always with Barnes coached teams.
"There's more to it than just winning games" - Rick Barnes
"Like always with Barnes coached teams"
This is just false. And ridiculous. Fans have terrible memories, and only remember when things don’t go wrong.
First of all, Barnes wanted his players to go faster last night, we just didn’t execute. This is a problem with our players, not Barnes. Second of all, go to this link. Read Moment No. 61. From your comments you seem like a young fan so you probably don’t even remember that game.
But from someone who’s been living and dying with this team for 14 years, Barnes knows what the hell he’s doing. That a bunch of young players botch it sometimes is not always a reflection of the coach.
76-37-5. Now GTFO.
sorry
That was one year before I started living and breathing texas basketball. I was. a fan then, but not like I am now. I rememberjust aboutevery game since then. And how we have failed to execute plays down the stretch on a consistant basis since 07-08.
Its sad when you have to go back 8 seasons to prove a point, I used to like barnes but he has simply lost it. With the talent he brings in, we should be making it to the 2nd weekend of the tourney more than 1 time in 6 seasons( I may be going out on a limb counting this year as not making it) You want to blame the last 2 seasons on the players not the coach failing? Go ahead Barnes does just that on a constant basis.
"There's more to it than just winning games" - Rick Barnes
by Mclovin1035 on Jan 31, 2012 3:29 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Also
What a ridiculous comment, generally. “Regardless of the fact that the play Barnes drew up should have given us two free throws to win it, it was an awful play.”
Okay… um.
“Refs usually swallow the whistle late.” They do? I don’t know about that, and moreover, Barnes drew up a play to get a shot, he can’t control if the defender mugs our player. You’re basically saying, “Well, if the defense mugs your player and you don’t get the whistle, you should have known better.” Ridiculous on its face.
As for the timing of the play, Barnes wanted us to take the clock down a little bit to avoid giving Missouri to much time. It was the right move, although Kabongo took too long to make his move. Again, the problem right now is not our coaching. It’s our players. And particularly our freshmen point guard.
Fans who don’t understand that are just looking for reasons to bash Barnes. It gets really, really old.
76-37-5. Now GTFO.
I mean that you can’t expect a foul call, that is not a good last play. Its not like we hit fts anyways, another problem of the barnes era. They shouldn’t wait that long becuase there was no chance at a board. Like the tourney last year we took too long to dribble up the court, gary johnson didn’t have enough time to be fouled or anthing. I can kind of understand not wanting to give mizzou another chance, but at the same time I’d rather get 2 chances and risk giving them the lead back.
I agree, our players are young and are making mistakes. I wouldn’t pin it entirely on one player though,. It would also be more excusable if this team would have accomplished something of relevence since Augustin was here, aside from going 10-27 from the ft line @ OU in 2010, and winning 1 tourney game in 2 years with 5 first round picks and 1 early second rounder. Its inexcusable how this team has underachieved the last 2 years, and the year with durant.
"There's more to it than just winning games" - Rick Barnes
by Mclovin1035 on Jan 31, 2012 4:47 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
I seem to remember
A game last year in which the officials whistled three? i think fouls with a few seconds left… and one of them was on the opposite baseline too. Very dumb fouls, but they were called, free throws were shot and it was basically a very weird finish. Don’t remember the teams specifically, but this is just one instance of not swallowing the whistle. It doesn’t always happen, we jut tend to remember the times that it does because those hurt the worst!
Just my two cents, don’t want to get involved here haha.
by HookemHouston on Jan 31, 2012 6:15 PM CST up reply actions
Butler Pittsburgh?
The fouls at the end. Pitt was down one then was fouled and shot 2 FT’s. Made 1st missed second then Matt Howard was fouled by Robinson and made 1 fts and missed the 2nd to let time expire. I think it was that 1, dumb fouls for sure
Still I don’t think that should be your entire play, and I also hate that the coach isn’t taking responsibility for the losses. He blamed Brown for the end of the game, and almost never can take the blame himself. I can’t remember an instance of him doing so at least, but I’ve only been a huge ’Horns fan since 04-05 so maybe he took responsibility before then
"There's more to it than just winning games" - Rick Barnes
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