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The basketball team didn't fare too well against Iowa State. [AAS]

Did you know...The Big 12 is a basketball conference. [AAS]

"The Big 12 has been at or near the top, RPI-wise, for the last four years,'' Baylor coach Scott Drew said. "With the 10 teams that are left, it's tightened up even more.''

"This may be the best the league has ever been, top to bottom,'' Kansas' Bill Self said.

"We will be a much better team two years from now than we will be next year, because we will have a senior team for the first time in two or three years," Texas coach Mack Brown said. [ESPN]

The Texas recruits are having a blast at the Under Armour All-America game. [ESPN]

There's nothing like team chemistry. That's certainly the case for the black team -- officially Team Highlight -- in the Under Armour All-America Game, as 10 future Texas Longhorns fill the roster.

"We are like a family already," said defensive tackle Malcom Brown (Brenham, Texas/Brenham). "I am real close with all the guys and getting closer every day. This is great for us."

They are already talking about the 2012 season. [Athlon Sports]

There’s been much speculation about coach Mack Brown’s future in Austin, but all indications point to his return on the sidelines in Austin for 2012. And there’s a lot of reasons for Texas to be optimistic next season. The Longhorns made a two-win improvement from 2010 this season and a similar jump isn’t out of the question. Coordinator Bryan Harsin was brought in from Boise to jumpstart the offense, but the Longhorns finished eighth in the Big 12 in scoring. Quarterback play was an issue all year, but Case McCoy and David Ash should be better with another offseason to work with the offense. However, Texas would probably be better off by settling on one quarterback and developing the scheme around him. Expect the Longhorns to focus on the run next season, especially with four starters coming back on the offensive line, along with running backs Malcolm Brown and Joe Bergeron. The backfield will also get a boost with incoming freshman Jonathan Gray – ranked as the No. 7 prospect in the Athlon Consensus 100. The defense loses tackle Kheeston Randall and linebackers Keenan Robinson and Emmanuel Acho, but should remain one of the best units in the Big 12. There’s a lot of pressure on Mack Brown to win next season and the pieces are in place to expect nine wins.

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It was a great win for the Pokes. [NewsOK]

"I want to dedicate this win to the four victims of the plane crash. It meant so much to the Oklahoma State people and to our team and for their families. The players wanted to do it."

Kansas State plays Arkansas in the Cotton Bowl this Friday. [Ft.Worth Star-Telegram]

For HopkinsHorn...This is why Jerry Jones should not be allowed to own a Texas team. [Topeka Capital-Journal]

Arkansas considers Dallas a second home, in part because Cowboys owner Jerry Jones is prominent Razorback alum. The school has several thousand alumni in the Dallas area, and the Razorbacks didn’t even bother to charter a flight for the 5-hour, 40-minute drive from Fayetteville.

"We claim this, with Jerry Jones, as our home stadium," coach Bobby Petrino said.

Going to a bowl game just got less expensive for a Big 12 school. [Business of College Sports]

The information provided by Lewis shines a new light on bowl finances. Last year, after hearing that UConn was required to purchase 17,500 tickets and was only able to sell around 5,000 of those tickets, many were quick to cry foul. However, after learning that the Big 12 conference has provided Oklahoma State with a significant amount of money for travel expenses and that the Big 12 Conference will likely incur the cost of unsold tickets, the burden of participating in bowl games on athletic departments appears to be less harsh than commonly reported.

Things are not going well in Lubbock. [Double T Nation]

I didn't create this situation. Tuberville did. He's the one that has gone through two defensive coordinators in two years, which is almost unheard of. I was willing to give Tuberville a pass after hiring and then firing James Willis due to the fact that the actual cause of termination may have had something to do with alleged spousal abuse and I had a hard time faulting Tuberville for knowing whether or not a person has a history of that sort of thing. But the Glasgow situation is completely different. Tuberville has to start taking some of the blame here. I'd love to be writing about how I should be patient, but Tuberville isn't being very patient, so I can't imagine why I should implore fans or anyone else to have that very same trait.

It must have been that terrible tackling. [Dallas Morning News]

Our defensive philosophy is not going to change," Tuberville said. "Players win games and we've got to get bigger defensive linemen and we've got to get more players and more depth to play that can play in open space. We were terrible tacklers last year, and we got better as the year went on but you've got to be able to have more than seven or eight guys. You've got to sub and have depth... We're not that far away, but sometimes it looks like you're far away when you're not playing as well as you need to play.

The Sooners are getting restless. [ESPN]

Head coach Bob Stoops said before the season it was "about time" Oklahoma won another national championship.

Stoops doesn't regret saying that then. And he feels the same will be true next season, too.

"It was about time," Stoops said. "That's what everyone's thinking. And they're restless. And it will be next year, too. I can say it next year -- that it's about time."

Weis watch...New Kansas head coach Charlie Weis is getting his staff in order. [Washington Post]

Jayhawks are expecting big things from their football program. [wibw.com]

Just three weeks into the Charlie Weis era, Kansas Athletics has sold out of a season ticket package, the new $99 Coach’s Corner. Due to increased demand and popularity, Kansas Athletics will expand the Coach’s Corner sections for a limited time only.

West Virginia's Dana Holgorsen = Friday Night Lights Tim Riggins. [Huffington Post]

West Virginia's coach Dana Holgorsen has a sort of Tim Riggins "I'm Really Talented But Have Some Crazy Inner Demons" vibe about him. In May, Holgorsen, then the school's offensive coordinator, was escorted out of a casino at 3 AM on a Wednesday for "refusing to co-operate with casino management." Only days later, a local newspaper in West Virginia printed a story on Holgorsen that highlighted six separate alcohol-related incidents that he had allegedly be involved in. But that isn't even the most Riggins-esque part--Only about two weeks after that he was named the head coach of the team. Who else but Tim Riggins would be able to get away with that much shenanigans, and still be deemed talented enough to not get kicked off the team altogether?

Has anyone told the Big East? Everyone has the Mountaineers on the schedule next year. [Ft. Worth Star-Telegram]

TCU will play nine Big 12 games, four at home and five on the road, including at West Virginia, which plans to move from the Big East. The Big East is fighting the move."We've been told they are going to be in the league," Del Conte said.

Great. You may not get the LHN, but you will get Land Thief programming. [Sports Business Daily]

Can't fill all those programming hours on FOX? It doesn't take much to entertain a Sooner. [NewsOK]

It won’t be one channel solely dedicated to OU, but Fox Sports would carry 1,000 hours of Sooner programming a year. Discounting the summer, that’s 111 hours a month, which is 27-28 hours a week. Basically four hours a day, on average.


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What's worse? The city or the song?

What are the worst locations for a bowl game? [Lost Lettermen]

There's hope! [Wall Street Journal]

At IMG’s Intercollegiate Athletics Forum last month, Conference USA commissioner Britton Banowsky spoke out against automatic-qualifying bids, saying they’ve become a "negative driver," and Big Ten commissioner Jim Delany said he’d be fine if they were eliminated. Also, two Pac-12 Conference athletic directors said the plus-one model is bound to eventually happen. Washington’s Scott Woodward said he supports it, and it was called inevitable by Stanford athletic director Bob Bowlsby, whose Cardinal might have been part of such a playoff both this season and last had it existed.

A college football player's take on the bowl experience. [ESPN]

Tennessee head coach Derek Dooley is a great guy. [Go Vols]

Here is your CF fashion hit for the day. [USA Today]

He's baaaaacccckkkkk. [LA Times]

Some college football fans think the whole BCS system — which culminates Jan. 9 when No. 1 LSU takes on No. 2 Alabama — is unfair and unworkable. A Texas congressman wants to make it unlawful.

Well, technically, Rep. Joe Barton (R-Texas) wants a playoff system for determining a national football champion. He has once again introduced legislation to compel college football to do so.

His "College Football Playoff Act" would "prohibit, as an unfair and deceptive act or practice, the promotion, marketing, and advertising of any post-season NCAA Division I football game as a national championship game unless such game is the culmination of a fair and equitable playoff system."

It is an SEC world. [USA Today]

The PAC 12 and the Big Ten are changing college football. [Forbes]

There will be no lead story on ESPN or in major newspapers or a Tebow-esque fascination about the Pac 12-Big Ten collaboration.

What collaboration you ask? There was an underpublicized agreement in the twilight of 2011 to enhance long-term scheduling of games across all sports among all 24 institutions within those two conferences.

A Big 12 crew will officiate the title game between LSU and Alabama. [al.com]

Utah still plans to sue the BCS. [Salt Lake Tribune]

Attorney General Mark Shurtleff says he expects to sue the Bowl Championship Series by next month and that the snub of Boise State in this season’s bowl games gives additional fodder to the impending lawsuit.

"I think we got some really good, new facts this season to support our case," Shurtleff told The Tribune in a recent interview. "The big example again is Boise State. They had one loss and finished in the Top 10, and yet they don’t get a [BCS] bowl game."

College football might as well go to China. Or Greece. Or any other place. [CBS Sports]

Scott found out there is a tremendous admiration for the Southern California lifestyle in the Pacific Rim. No one is saying it aloud but a shot at the national championship is perhaps becoming less critical than a shot at the European, Chinese or Greek markets. It's about spreading the brand, not necessarily raising another flag.

"It's about taking ordinary events and making them extraordinary," said Delany, whose Big Ten Network already reached Europe and the Middle East.

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Great Job As Usual Dime

There’s a lot of pressure on Mack Brown to win next season and the pieces are in place to expect nine wins.

I don’t think the Orange Bloods are going to accept 9 wins anymore.

Mack may be solid with DeLoss and his boys at Belmont but the fans expect more for the 5 mil Mack gets.

by TCB Orange Dino on Jan 5, 2012 9:49 AM CST reply actions  

No comment on my Jerry Jones/Dallas swipe?

I’m disappointed.

"Never let your persistence and passion turn into stubbornness and ignorance." - Anthony J. D'Angelo

by dimecoverage on Jan 5, 2012 10:11 AM CST up reply actions  

He is one of those people that really don’t get a name in my house. He is “that man from north of the Red River that killed the Cowboys” or “that man that brought in the criminal from north of the Red River” or “that man that did Tom Landry wrong”. I don’t go to his house of worship. I will not contribute a damn dime to his ill gotten wealth.

If a man is alone in the woods and he speaks, if no one hears him,,is he still wrong?

by OnMySignal on Jan 5, 2012 10:22 AM CST up reply actions  

I know everyone hates Jerry...

…and he is a godawful GM and the Cowboys will most likely never win again until he retires, but the fact remains that only with his buying the team do the Cowboys win three Super Bowls in four years, as he was the only owner who would have taken the chance on the unproven college coach Jimmy Johnson. Yes, I know that it was complete blind luck that he happened to play college football with Jimmy, and it’s not like he did a massive talent evaluation of available coaching talent. But at the end of the day, Jones’ wildcatter luck got Dallas more trophies than the skill of anyone else possibly could have brought us.

As for Landry, Jones gets a very bum rap. There were several groups bidding on the Cowboys, and every single one of them had, as a term of the sale, that the outgoing owner (Bum Bright) would fire Landry before the sale was finalized. And with good reason, too: Landry by February 1989 was an over-the-hill albatross who failed to recognize that the game had passed him by several years earlier. The problem for Jones was that a Dallas Times Herald photographer outed him and Jimmy Johnson dining together at Mia’s as word of the sale was getting out, thereby ruining any opportunity to allow Landry to retire gracefully. At that point, instead of lying and allowing Landry to twist in the wind for a few days, Jones manned up, flew to Austin and told Landry in person the next days.

Once word had gotten out that Johnson was coming in with Jones, what the heck was Jones supposed to do at that point?

Just imagine what Landry would have done if he had stuck around the next season and had Aikman as a rookie. Aikman might have started to crack the starting lineup come the middle of 1991 or so. There’s no way in the world he would have let a mere rookie play as much as he did.

by Hopkins Horn on Jan 5, 2012 1:36 PM CST up reply actions  

I read it. I processed it. I still don't like "it". Do I have to like "it"?

If a man is alone in the woods and he speaks, if no one hears him,,is he still wrong?

by OnMySignal on Jan 5, 2012 3:53 PM CST up reply actions  

You have my permission to hate anything from Arkansas.

"Never let your persistence and passion turn into stubbornness and ignorance." - Anthony J. D'Angelo

by dimecoverage on Jan 5, 2012 4:02 PM CST up reply actions  

Thank you.

It is just not a nice man.

If a man is alone in the woods and he speaks, if no one hears him,,is he still wrong?

by OnMySignal on Jan 5, 2012 4:08 PM CST up reply actions  

The Uniforms,,,sweet niblets,,the uniforms.

How long before we cave to the pressure and change a great look?

If a man is alone in the woods and he speaks, if no one hears him,,is he still wrong?

by OnMySignal on Jan 5, 2012 10:06 AM CST reply actions  

NO. NEVER.

We are a classic. YSL said it best, "Fashions fade, style is eternal."

Oregon=fashion. Texas=style.

"Never let your persistence and passion turn into stubbornness and ignorance." - Anthony J. D'Angelo

by dimecoverage on Jan 5, 2012 10:10 AM CST up reply actions  

Completely and wholeheartedly agree. I’m just wondering how long we can hold out?

If a man is alone in the woods and he speaks, if no one hears him,,is he still wrong?

by OnMySignal on Jan 5, 2012 10:19 AM CST up reply actions  

And the Sooners succumb

"Never let your persistence and passion turn into stubbornness and ignorance." - Anthony J. D'Angelo

by dimecoverage on Jan 5, 2012 12:31 PM CST up reply actions  

Good Grief.

I swear it will look like a giant collection of yard gnomes if they switch to those hats and keep the red unis.

If a man is alone in the woods and he speaks, if no one hears him,,is he still wrong?

by OnMySignal on Jan 5, 2012 4:14 PM CST up reply actions  

I see shiny things

Squirrel!!!!!!!

We're Texas, We're not OK.

by Wrangler86 on Jan 5, 2012 5:11 PM CST up reply actions  

totally agree

"Reality continues to ruin my life."

by jlhotze on Jan 5, 2012 10:59 AM CST up reply actions  

Question of the day

“Most people in Lubbock support my position.”

Who said this?

"Never let your persistence and passion turn into stubbornness and ignorance." - Anthony J. D'Angelo

by dimecoverage on Jan 5, 2012 10:17 AM CST reply actions  

Get ready to laugh...

Link for quote.

"Never let your persistence and passion turn into stubbornness and ignorance." - Anthony J. D'Angelo

by dimecoverage on Jan 5, 2012 10:18 AM CST up reply actions  

OMG Dime,,,I looked.

I haven’t had enough coffee to see and process that. Yegods. My eyes.

If a man is alone in the woods and he speaks, if no one hears him,,is he still wrong?

by OnMySignal on Jan 5, 2012 10:23 AM CST up reply actions  

And the answer to your sig is still, and will always be, yes.

"Never let your persistence and passion turn into stubbornness and ignorance." - Anthony J. D'Angelo

by dimecoverage on Jan 5, 2012 10:34 AM CST up reply actions  

sisters - they clump together! :-)

Proud of your offense? Manny badger don't give a shit!

by Snide Aside on Jan 5, 2012 3:42 PM CST up reply actions  

All three of us- Longhorn Em, OMS and myself – have to stick together. We are the minority.

In fact, our numbers are so small, we aren’t even considered a minority. :-)

"Never let your persistence and passion turn into stubbornness and ignorance." - Anthony J. D'Angelo

by dimecoverage on Jan 5, 2012 4:03 PM CST up reply actions  

Dime - there is nothing minor about you - hook 'em!

Proud of your offense? Manny badger don't give a shit!

by Snide Aside on Jan 5, 2012 4:05 PM CST up reply actions  

You are too kind. :-)

"Never let your persistence and passion turn into stubbornness and ignorance." - Anthony J. D'Angelo

by dimecoverage on Jan 5, 2012 4:17 PM CST up reply actions  

I'm with Snide Aside

Minority? You’re just too humble to yourself, Dime. You’ve so much power that most of us don’t have. The power to edit and delete post. Most of us can’t do after we press the “post” button. That power is already way above us :)

The ladyhorns like you, Em, OMS and others have the most respect from us. You girls are no minority in this wonderful blog. I beg you please don’t feel that way.

I’ve to say this blog without you will be less romantic. I enjoy every Bevo’s Roundup that you’ve posted in the past and thanks for the great read every week :) And, please keep it coming.

Happy New Year to you and your family. Hook’em!

by Horns98 on Jan 5, 2012 9:15 PM CST up reply actions  

I don't think she is available

But if she didn’t realize how powerful she was before, she surely does now.

All true though, she’s the bomb. And, the Lady Longhorns have not treated us to a barage of funny thread of gifs in a longtime. And, I know they have them saved up and ready to post. ( I hope).
Happy New Year to all the BONers.

We're Texas, We're not OK.

by Wrangler86 on Jan 5, 2012 10:04 PM CST up reply actions  

Horns98, would you like for the rest of us to leave the room?!

That was just so sappy. Made me look away as I was reading it.

by robthecob on Jan 7, 2012 10:01 AM CST up reply actions  

I haven’t been doing BDR for a while due to some family issues but hope to get back on a permanent rotation with at least three posts a week, Like the other writers, a lot of time and effort goes in to every post. None of us are paid so any thanks is very appreciated.

What may come across as sappy to you was a thoughtful comment to someone else.

So thanks, Horns98.

"Never let your persistence and passion turn into stubbornness and ignorance." - Anthony J. D'Angelo

by dimecoverage on Jan 7, 2012 1:07 PM CST up reply actions  

You're welcome

I hope everything Is ok to your family, Dime. I do truly appreciate you, Peter and other writers here in this blog. You guys are so generous and willing to spend so much time to contribute and let us the Horns fans to enjoy this blog every minute. Thank you so much :-)

Set aside everything, family is always the first. Hope everything is taking care of your family soon.

by Horns98 on Jan 8, 2012 1:05 AM CST up reply actions  

Wow! Misconception on your part. I was only teasing.

Lighten up a bit, please. Everyone appreciates you, as do I.

by robthecob on Jan 11, 2012 4:15 PM CST up reply actions  

I apologize

My comment to Dime was so lame or so sweet that it makes you want to puke. Sorry Sir.

by Horns98 on Jan 8, 2012 1:09 AM CST up reply actions  

I mean sorry to robthecob

by Horns98 on Jan 8, 2012 1:10 AM CST up reply actions  

No apology necessary. I never got to the point of puking.

Just good-natured ribbing to you two. You were right to compliment Dime.

by robthecob on Jan 11, 2012 4:17 PM CST up reply actions  

I knew the answer to that question

But everyone still wants to know if Craig James Killed 5 Hookers while at SMU and he refuses to answer the question.

We're Texas, We're not OK.

by Wrangler86 on Jan 5, 2012 5:17 PM CST up reply actions  

Morning, Dime.

I hope the Sooners get their own network, hopefully fading some of the heat on us. If they go forward, and they’re smart about it (faulty premise?), they won’t work on it with espn.

See ya later, alligator and sheep-mater.

by Paleface Horn on Jan 5, 2012 10:44 AM CST reply actions  

All kidding aside…The Sooners are probably one of the few programs that can sustain their own network. They were smart to stay in the Big 12 (not that the PAC 12 ever wanted them in the first place) so they could own their network outright. I wouldn’t want Texas to have to fold that much potential revenue into a conference package to be distributed evenly among members. All other conference revenue should be distributed, but not this.

"Never let your persistence and passion turn into stubbornness and ignorance." - Anthony J. D'Angelo

by dimecoverage on Jan 5, 2012 10:47 AM CST up reply actions  

El Paso aint that bad a song

I kinda favor it for some reason.

Plus Marty Robbins wears sequins like a boss

"Reality continues to ruin my life."

by jlhotze on Jan 5, 2012 11:03 AM CST reply actions  

I hate sequins on anyone or anything. :-)

"Never let your persistence and passion turn into stubbornness and ignorance." - Anthony J. D'Angelo

by dimecoverage on Jan 5, 2012 11:11 AM CST up reply actions  

I rather enjoy these sequins,,,

If a man is alone in the woods and he speaks, if no one hears him,,is he still wrong?

by OnMySignal on Jan 5, 2012 4:01 PM CST up reply actions  

Wow. Those are some serious sequins.

"Never let your persistence and passion turn into stubbornness and ignorance." - Anthony J. D'Angelo

by dimecoverage on Jan 5, 2012 4:19 PM CST up reply actions  

That man is smiling

Therefore it can’t be Frank Martin.

"Well, a guy did a Horns down to him. You just shouldn’t do that."

by Johngo on Jan 5, 2012 4:42 PM CST up reply actions  

Pretty sure that's North Carolina's away uniform.

If a man is alone in the woods and he speaks, if no one hears him,,is he still wrong?

by OnMySignal on Jan 5, 2012 5:22 PM CST up reply actions  

LOL

I did buy my sister a great b o shirt with a sequined Longhorn in the front. She was happy I got her name in the family drawing. That dang UT CO-OP is not cheap though.

We're Texas, We're not OK.

by Wrangler86 on Jan 5, 2012 10:06 PM CST up reply actions  

Those guys know that they're clientele is a bit obsessed ...

Misers & Tightwads rarely walk through the doors off Guadalupe St.

by robthecob on Jan 7, 2012 10:05 AM CST up reply actions  

Now that Oklahoma has basic cable and dial up, they think they need a network.

"Never let your persistence and passion turn into stubbornness and ignorance." - Anthony J. D'Angelo

by dimecoverage on Jan 5, 2012 11:32 AM CST up reply actions   1 recs

i was not sure they made it past the erector sets on the roofs for reception..

for their B&W tv’s

If a man in college kills 5 hookers and no one is there to hear it or see it, can he still run for the Senate?

by longhorn35 on Jan 5, 2012 11:44 AM CST up reply actions  

Satellite doesn't work in Oklahoma

Tornados move the mobile homes to which they’re attached too much

by ole tnhorn on Jan 5, 2012 2:31 PM CST up reply actions  

That’s why….

"Never let your persistence and passion turn into stubbornness and ignorance." - Anthony J. D'Angelo

by dimecoverage on Jan 5, 2012 4:04 PM CST up reply actions  

The Sooner Network is driving away Nebraska, Missouri, Colorado, and aggie!

They’re to blame for the demise of the Big 12. Arrogance! Greed! Additional recycled comment!

"Anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that 'my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.'"
― Isaac Asimov

by burntorangehorn on Jan 5, 2012 11:51 AM CST reply actions  

Are we missing any of them yet? I think not. And Missouri and A&M haven’t even left.

"Never let your persistence and passion turn into stubbornness and ignorance." - Anthony J. D'Angelo

by dimecoverage on Jan 5, 2012 11:53 AM CST up reply actions  

Eh...I'm not sure you caught the tone of my post

"Anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that 'my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.'"
― Isaac Asimov

by burntorangehorn on Jan 5, 2012 12:28 PM CST up reply actions  

I got it.

And my thought is that I don’t give a damn if anyone’s network caused any of them to go. Good riddance.

"Never let your persistence and passion turn into stubbornness and ignorance." - Anthony J. D'Angelo

by dimecoverage on Jan 5, 2012 12:31 PM CST up reply actions  

Yep, that was part of my point

A lot of people claimed that the LHN caused those schools to leave, when in fact the LHN came into existence after Mizzou had already pursued the Big Ten, Nebraska had already announced their intent to leave, and according to Bill Byrne, aggie had made the internal decision to go to the SEC.

"Anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that 'my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.'"
― Isaac Asimov

by burntorangehorn on Jan 5, 2012 12:52 PM CST up reply actions  

They had to blame someone and why not blame the bully on the block? So be it.

As I said, good riddance. We just added West Virginia, which is a better program than Aggie or Mizzou.

By the way, when will Geno Smith’s eligibility end?

"Never let your persistence and passion turn into stubbornness and ignorance." - Anthony J. D'Angelo

by dimecoverage on Jan 5, 2012 1:07 PM CST up reply actions  

I hear you

All I could think is we are the conference that just increased the competition…damn, he’s good. And Dana is going to attract a lot of elite talent on O.

We're Texas, We're not OK.

by Wrangler86 on Jan 5, 2012 5:21 PM CST up reply actions  

I agree with spreading the brand of the conferance

We need to add the at least one Service academy to the conference. If we can get a permant spot on AFN, Texas and in a lesser way, OU, can get a better footing arround the world.

Stationed in Japan? Watch Texas vs Army
Stuck in Germany? Watch OU vs AirForce

by Silentjay on Jan 5, 2012 11:52 AM CST reply actions  

What advantage does getting on AFN provide?

They bring only extremely tiny fanbases (mostly just the tiny alumni bases), and AFN would net exactly zero in terms of advertising dollars for the conference or teams, because there are no advertisements. Footing around the world doesn’t really mean much when there’s no money and very few fans.

"Anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that 'my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.'"
― Isaac Asimov

by burntorangehorn on Jan 5, 2012 12:50 PM CST up reply actions  

This too

I think part of the problem is the popular perception that being in the military makes one part of an academy’s fanbase. In truth, the academies are tiny institutions with tiny alumni bases, and most troops who didn’t attend the academies don’t really care. They and even many academy alumni are generally fans of the teams they liked growing up, if they like college football at all. If a kid grew up in Colorado and was a Buffs fan growing up (unlikely, I know), then joined the army, he’s going to be interested in Buffs games, and not be able to name a single player or anything else about the academy team.

"Anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that 'my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.'"
― Isaac Asimov

by burntorangehorn on Jan 5, 2012 2:19 PM CST up reply actions  

It does however get them a game with a big name team

which, when you’re getting the channel anyway, why not watch it even if they’re not a fan of the service academy playing? It’s good for the overall visibility of the league.

TEXAS FIGHT

by Darklust on Jan 5, 2012 3:08 PM CST up reply actions  

How is that an advantage of playing a service academy?

You’re arguing for having it on AFN, basically, and the audience is going to be less than a couple hundred thousand at best. Probably far less.

"Anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that 'my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.'"
― Isaac Asimov

by burntorangehorn on Jan 5, 2012 4:13 PM CST up reply actions  

Any discussion of worst bowl sites

that doesn’t include Shreveport has no credibility. Albuquerquie, Boise & El Paso are vacation havens compared to Detroit & Shreveport. Might as well have bowls in East St Louis, Gary & Witchita.

by ole tnhorn on Jan 5, 2012 2:36 PM CST reply actions  

Very insightful

You must have visited S’Port? It is very much like the old Cotton Bowl, just a little closer to the I20. nearby hotels are in bad areas, not much to do except gamble till game time. Not what you would call family friendly. We won’t go into comparisons of Detroit and why.

by Burnedsince61 on Jan 5, 2012 2:53 PM CST up reply actions  

Now, Now,,,Shreveport isn't ALL bad.

There is Strawberry Pie at Strawn’s that is just about worth tolerating the rest of the city to get.

If a man is alone in the woods and he speaks, if no one hears him,,is he still wrong?

by OnMySignal on Jan 5, 2012 4:04 PM CST up reply actions  

What's wrong with Wichita?

"Anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that 'my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.'"
― Isaac Asimov

by burntorangehorn on Jan 5, 2012 4:14 PM CST up reply actions  

The Natty is going to have a Big 12 crew?

Haha! I guess they wanted to allow some holding to make the score a little less boring.

TEXAS FIGHT

by Darklust on Jan 5, 2012 3:04 PM CST reply actions  

Those officials best stock up on Red Bull if they want to make it to the end of the game. Snoooooooozzzzzeeeeee Fest for sure.

If a man is alone in the woods and he speaks, if no one hears him,,is he still wrong?

by OnMySignal on Jan 5, 2012 4:16 PM CST up reply actions  

Marty...

classic song by a classic voice. Regardless of the sequins.

by b&g80 on Jan 5, 2012 3:25 PM CST reply actions  

San Antonio

got a bad rap from the LA Lakers. It is a good city to visit on a winter four day weekend. There is plenty going on. The Lakers were just pissed that Tim and David had whipped them.

by MarkInAustin on Jan 5, 2012 4:52 PM CST reply actions  

SA is a pretty good town to visit

Especially for teams/fans from cold weather climates.

However, the Alamodome itself is by far the worst venue in which I’ve ever seen a college football game, and I’ve been to every Alamobowl game since Penn State/A&M. Absolutely no atmosphere, the video boards are way, way outdated and certain areas (mainly the lower level corners) are very claustrophobic.

(I live in SA).

by Horncasting on Jan 5, 2012 5:26 PM CST up reply actions  

But,,,they have Mi Tierra’s fajitas and ’ritas and The Quarry in SA.

If a man is alone in the woods and he speaks, if no one hears him,,is he still wrong?

by OnMySignal on Jan 5, 2012 5:41 PM CST up reply actions  

El Paso

People need to stop shitting on my hometown. The people are much nicer, the food much better, city much safer and the game much more organized than anything I’ve experienced since living here in North Cuba.

"Can you count suckas?!"

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