US Army Bowl West Team Practice Notes
After making the morning drive down to San Antonio and stopping by the Grand Hyatt to pick up my credential, it was time to head out to the Blossom Athletic Complex to watch the West team practice in preparation for Saturday morning's US Army All-American game. The contest in the Alamodome will feature Texas commits Kendall Sanders, Hassan Ridgeway, Tim Cole, and Nick Jordan, as well as Texas targets Dorial Green-Beckham, Torshiro Davis, and Arik Armstead, who has been making noises this week about sticking around the area for the next week to take a visit up to Austin.
Head on after the jump for a few notes. Pictures will follow when I get back to Austin and can access my camera, as well as an interview with Nick Jordan and whatever else I can swing this evening when the players are supposed to be available again.
- Want to talk about a kid who passes the eyeball test? In this environment, most of the kids do, especially in the trenches and at linebacker, but massive Washington tackle Zach Banner is literally heads and shoulders above virtually everyone else on the West team, aside from Arik Armstead, who is virtually as tall as Banner.
- Armstead dominated a couple of reps against John Michael McGee, first bull-rushing the Oklahoma commit into the quarterback and then using a quick swim move to beat McGee quickly off the line. Pad level is always a concern for a kid that big trying to play defensive tackle and he certainly looks like an offensive linemen, but he hasn't wanted to play offense here and looked good on defense in the limited look.
- Banner struggled at times in one-on-ones against Javante Magee, as the coaches were working with him on his angles in his pass set and in getting his punch at the proper time. Still, the kid clearly has all the physical tools and carries his listed 330 pounds extremely easily. It's even likely that he did better in other reps.
- Dorial Green-Beckham is a lean 220 pounds and, as the film shows, moves extremely well for his size. He was quiet in the first scrimmage session before lunch before dominating afterwards, but did have some consistency issues catching the football, as he has a tendency to let it get into his body. It doesn't seem that he has poor hands, but looks rather like a technique issue. He also seems like a really nice kid who was willing to make time for people who wanted to take pictures with him.
- Kendall Sanders will probably get a look at receiver first when he gets to Texas, but has been working at cornerback in this setting and reportedly impressed in the first several days of practice. It looked to be more of the same on Thursday, as Sanders helped shut down DGB in the morning session and looked as natural, quick, and fluid at defensive back live as he does at receiver in his highlights. He lost about 15 pounds or so after getting sick during the season, so he's a bit on the skinny side right now, but he's shown the ability to put on some solid weight in the past.
- Hassan Ridgeway looks as good as any player on the defensive line for the West team after losing 15 pounds himself following the football season. In terms of upper body strength, Ridgeway looks ready to contribute immediately.
- John Michael McGee looked like a running back next to Banner and has a really thin lower body that raises some concerns about the strength in his base.
- Speaking of skinny, Edward Pope looks like his legs could snap in half at any minute. The kid is obviously a hard hitter and strong football player, but it's hard to imagine that thin body surviving four college football seasons without some durability issues.
- For the most part, the quarterback play wasn't particularly strong for the West team, especially from Zeke Pike, who struggled spinning the football and with his accuracy, throwing one duck downfield to DGB against the air that barely traveled 30 yards in the air when it needed to travel 45.
- Nick Jordan punted for Coppell last season, but doesn't look like a natural punter at this point, as he struggled to drive the football. In comparison, local product Ethan Perry was booming spirals down the field and the TCU commit looked worthy of the scholarship offer he received from the Horned Frogs. At times, he was able to get strong height and distance on his kickoffs, but sometimes left his kicks too flat.
- Didn't see much from Tim Cole, who is definitely on the small side for a linebacker and may be miscast at outside linebacker, but I did see some other reports from people who were impressed with what he did today.
- Trey Williams is every bit as fast and quick in person as he is in film and looks like a strong candidate to find the endzone on Saturday. On one screen pass during team work, he break off a big gain, but lost the football when it was knocked loose by none other than Tim Cole. Williams later jokingly blamed the fumble on the sleeves that he was wearing, noting that he never fears them in games. But he did at least admit that he was making excuses.
- The afternoon session was rather light-hearted, as Banner wore DGB's no. 5 jersey -- which he filled out quite well, exchanging the no. 73 with Green-Beckham, who didn't quite fill it out the same way that Banner does.
- The defensive line went against the offensive line in some 7on7 work, leading to a touchdown catch by Magee that spurred an extended dance from the uncommitted prospect.
- Hearing that Thomas Johnson could take another visit other than his trip to Oregon. Stay tuned on that one.
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Agreed.
Someone on OB mentioned TAMU. That would sicken me. If he goes to Oregon, I can’t blame him….
Rock solid man.
You are by far one of the best reporters on this stuff around.
Keep em coming.
"Slammed that hoe on the counter like I just got 35 on the domino table!!"
Sherrod Harris
Thanks a lot GoBR.
Appreciate the work.
I told the people of my district that I would serve them as faithfully as I had done; but if not ... you may all go to hell, and I will go to Texas. -- Davey Crockett
by pleaseplaykindle on Jan 5, 2012 6:18 PM CST reply actions
I was hoping for one as well
with 10 commits playing.
by SDG on Jan 5, 2012 6:44 PM CST up reply actions
watching on ESPN3 at work
Peter Jinkens had a nasty hit showing speed to come from behind and hit the WR.
"The only sport that should be cried over is tee ball."
- don't remember who said it, but I like it.
Connor Brewer looking athletic!
From the looks of things so far Connor Brewer looking extremely athletic with a huge arm, I would like to see him hit a deep homerun ball to Cayleb jones…it looks like Connor is much larger than advertised…maybe we won’t need Bo Wallace, we might have our qb playing right now!
It's hard being a Longhorn fan in the state of Oklahoma!!
by okhornfan on Jan 5, 2012 6:52 PM CST via mobile reply actions
I'm pretty sure
Malcolm Brown is the RB
Malcom Brown is the DLineman
Not 100% sure, but that’s what it looks like on espn. The next MB should try to get the #28 as well.
by Mclovin1035 on Jan 5, 2012 7:57 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Keep nodding my head in disapointment every time I see TJ make a nice play
Just feeling really pessimistic about him.
I think we'll be alright. Hard to know what the motivation is...
GoBR was saying could be Oregon + another school. I’d rather it be more than one school, feels more like kicking the tires
Perhaps the unsettled nature of the QB situation??????
See ya later, alligator and sheep-mater.
by Paleface Horn on Jan 6, 2012 9:50 AM CST up reply actions
Is Ken Griffey Jr.
on the Taylor Bible diet? I would not have recognized him if the announcers hadn’t identified him…
"I was nice and didn’t go for a full cock shot" - LonghornEm
Brewer
Needs a redshirt and atleast another year on the sidelines and practicing IMO.
Now I understand why Mack, Harsen and Applewhite are evaluating Wallace.
Pretty good practice for his college career at Texas I'd say.
I keed.
I told the people of my district that I would serve them as faithfully as I had done; but if not ... you may all go to hell, and I will go to Texas. -- Davey Crockett
by pleaseplaykindle on Jan 5, 2012 8:19 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Agree with these points
Brewer has a good looking arm but won’t displace a more mature Ash; agree with the shirt, especially if Wallace comes. Brown and Gray look ready to go now; Gray has great hands. TJ looks terrific – gotta hope the commit holds. Estelle is a beast but his technique and lateral mobility look to need some work. And Riser just got a holding penalty.
by pchorn on Jan 5, 2012 7:55 PM CST via iPhone app up reply actions
White teams Oline
is giving their QB 2X as much time as the Black teams is. Bad thing is Black teams OL has Texas commits
"Stability is a factor in teams that win the championship. But if you stabilize on a team that's going to end up short of that, then all you're doing is spinning your wheels in the 45-win range."-----Daryl Morey
by fanoflosingteams on Jan 5, 2012 8:00 PM CST up reply actions
I'm surprised too.
Since the white team are notorious gym rats and heady players, but they lack the elite athleticism and speed that the black team has.
I told the people of my district that I would serve them as faithfully as I had done; but if not ... you may all go to hell, and I will go to Texas. -- Davey Crockett
by pleaseplaykindle on Jan 5, 2012 8:20 PM CST up reply actions
Estelle seems to be struggling
See ya later, alligator and sheep-mater.
by Paleface Horn on Jan 6, 2012 9:51 AM CST up reply actions
These games are not great for evaluation
The drills & practices are better.
The game shows off RB & WRs then DL occasionally CBs/Qbs
Guess that's why he picked Bama.
Don’t be surprised if he changes to LSU on signing day. Mama was NOT happy with the Bama choice and the LSU alums seem to find a way to get cars and cash to recruits (e.g., Perrilloux). He could just be trying to up the ante.
See ya later, alligator and sheep-mater.
by Paleface Horn on Jan 6, 2012 9:55 AM CST up reply actions
And Brewer is concussed
"Stability is a factor in teams that win the championship. But if you stabilize on a team that's going to end up short of that, then all you're doing is spinning your wheels in the 45-win range."-----Daryl Morey
by fanoflosingteams on Jan 5, 2012 8:06 PM CST reply actions
Did you notice who hit Brewer ?
It was SUPER Mario with the LIFT and BODY SLAM and DRIVING Brewer into the turf!!
Does not look like Edwards will be at UT after the way he treated someone who would be a future teammate!
TYhoughts?
by BurntOrange83 on Jan 6, 2012 9:54 AM CST up reply actions
Estelle missed the block, right?
See ya later, alligator and sheep-mater.
by Paleface Horn on Jan 6, 2012 9:56 AM CST up reply actions
I guess Im done watching this game
I was only watching to see how Brewer played. Black teams OL isnt doing as much as white teams. Sit Gray before he gets hurt
"Stability is a factor in teams that win the championship. But if you stabilize on a team that's going to end up short of that, then all you're doing is spinning your wheels in the 45-win range."-----Daryl Morey
by fanoflosingteams on Jan 5, 2012 8:13 PM CST reply actions
He is...
He is fast with a quick first step…great moves as well. He will be a DE without a doubt…hard to find guys his size that fast and with skills like his for a DE.
Speed plays into position...
Not many guys his size are that fast. He will stay at DE until proven otherwise. He will also slim down some in college once he gets into a S&C program
How many DL slim down when they get into a college S&C program?
Kid is still in highschool and may very well keep growing. He’ll definitely be adding more muscle.
He was quite a bit quicker than I thought though. Before this game I thought a permanent move to the inside was definite. Now I think he could have the versatility to play both DE and DT depending on the situation.
Still think he’s a DT in the NFL though. Just like Redding and now Melton.
hes stayed at TE and excelled
was more my point
by ibleedburntorange49-9 on Jan 7, 2012 4:42 PM CST up reply actions
I guess this is our UA thread too
I agree. The black oline is not helping out the QBs at all. But, it is typical in these games that the D has the advantage.
Brewer doesn’t look like the rough tough leader I was hoping to find.
Gray, MBII, Jinkens and Echols have played great. MBII is a monster, and Echols has had very good coverage.
Brewer failed to impress at all, but I put most of the blame on his O-Line.
We're Texas, We're not OK.
Summary of what happened?
For those of me that missed the first half?
I told the people of my district that I would serve them as faithfully as I had done; but if not ... you may all go to hell, and I will go to Texas. -- Davey Crockett
by pleaseplaykindle on Jan 5, 2012 8:25 PM CST up reply actions
unfortunately
Few Texas kids are blocking for him, well trying to block
by codaxx on Jan 5, 2012 8:29 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Sterling Shephard
Ran the wrong pass rout on that interception to hurt recruiting chances for DBG.
Book it!
All the WRs ( Jones included)
Seem to stand and watch if they didn’t get the ball. No sense of blocking at all.
We're Texas, We're not OK.
Connor Brewer concussed?
Jesus, even committing to Texas as a QB means bad things happen to you.
I told the people of my district that I would serve them as faithfully as I had done; but if not ... you may all go to hell, and I will go to Texas. -- Davey Crockett
by pleaseplaykindle on Jan 5, 2012 8:27 PM CST reply actions
The white D Line is overpowering the black O Line making Brewer look less than great. They have also slowed Gray's runs.
I'd kill for a Nobel Peace Prize
by MeatchickenHorn on Jan 5, 2012 8:33 PM CST up reply actions
Landon Collins could start for us at safety right now.
Or even last year..
I told the people of my district that I would serve them as faithfully as I had done; but if not ... you may all go to hell, and I will go to Texas. -- Davey Crockett
by pleaseplaykindle on Jan 5, 2012 8:33 PM CST reply actions
Vaccaro and Phillips
I doubt that… I will take them both at this point.
That just
sounds weird.
I wouldn’t mind him coming to UT, but I just don’t see it.
Still don’t think he would start over Vaccaro or Phillips next year.
ridiculous
Vaccarro would be drafted 3rd rnd if he left. Nobody on the field tonight would be drafted. 3 yrs Collins maybe 1st rnd, but right now he is not near Vaccarro or Philips. People get way too caught up in potential
by codaxx on Jan 5, 2012 8:59 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Please allow me some hyperbole.
It’s been hard watching Texas commits drop like flies tonight.
I told the people of my district that I would serve them as faithfully as I had done; but if not ... you may all go to hell, and I will go to Texas. -- Davey Crockett
by pleaseplaykindle on Jan 5, 2012 9:02 PM CST up reply actions
Duke Johnson
Really hurting the black team. 2 fumbles and a whiffed block leading to a safety…
Did I just witness that?
They had an injured player hop alone to the opposite sideline? I’m no doctor, but that seems nonideal.
I told the people of my district that I would serve them as faithfully as I had done; but if not ... you may all go to hell, and I will go to Texas. -- Davey Crockett
by pleaseplaykindle on Jan 5, 2012 8:53 PM CST up reply actions
Gotta love the technique.
Clearly something he’s worked on.
I told the people of my district that I would serve them as faithfully as I had done; but if not ... you may all go to hell, and I will go to Texas. -- Davey Crockett
by pleaseplaykindle on Jan 5, 2012 8:55 PM CST up reply actions
Gray is hurt too.
Fan tastic.
I told the people of my district that I would serve them as faithfully as I had done; but if not ... you may all go to hell, and I will go to Texas. -- Davey Crockett
by pleaseplaykindle on Jan 5, 2012 8:52 PM CST reply actions
hopped off the field.
may have just banged it up. let’s hope he just landed on the knee
3rd Degree Longhorn
FWIW
He fist-bumped as he was hopping.
I told the people of my district that I would serve them as faithfully as I had done; but if not ... you may all go to hell, and I will go to Texas. -- Davey Crockett
by pleaseplaykindle on Jan 5, 2012 8:55 PM CST up reply actions
Either a hammie or a knee ...
Hope not a knee.
by pchorn on Jan 5, 2012 8:54 PM CST via iPhone app up reply actions
Probably his knees. They were injured during the state title game. Must have re-aggravated them again.
"If you want to surf, move to Hawaii. If you like to shop, move to New York. If you like acting and Hollywood, move to California. But if you like college football, move to Texas."
-- Ricky Williams
could possibly be the knee, but I would lean more towards ankle. With a knee injury one wouldnt flex the knee and then hop on it adding more stress to it…but an ankle, it makes more sense to do what he did.
I did see him hop off the field
I just re-watched it. You are right, looked like it must be his ankle.
Dude hopped like a freaking kangaroo. No doubt he hopped on one leg faster than I can sprint. Great show of medical/trainers to not get out there. Geeze.
We're Texas, We're not OK.
Gray
has been a lot of miles over the last 4 years.
That is my biggest concern with him.
He will definitely benefit from having Brown and Bergeron in front of him.
So true
He is like buying an auto dealer’s own personal ride. Super cool car, but has a lot of miles for being “new.”
He and his family were smart to see the benefit of playing with M.Brown and Bergeron. RB is the shortest career and they need to save the mileage.
We're Texas, We're not OK.
This is true
But he still is near the top of the all-time list for number of carries, if I’m not mistaken. Still takes a bit of a toll!
so to recap:
Texas QB commit – no time to pass and knocked out of game; Texas RB commit – few holes to run through, best play called back, knocked out of game….I feel like I’m still watching the 2011 season!
"I was nice and didn’t go for a full cock shot" - LonghornEm
definitely
wasx an issue with Sterling SHephard standing around during that interception… and then not even trying to tackle the guy.
One thing is for sure… either Brewer or Shephard made a mistake on that play.
Well, let's be clear about it
It was our OL commit that made the hold (without need) that caused Gray’s long pass catch to be called back. LOL
Gray does have some sweet hands though….seriously.
We're Texas, We're not OK.
Yep
And Estelle gave up the sack where Brewer got crushed on
This is like a bad pee wee game
Ugh…now they are saying the black team is all Longhorn. I thought winning our bowl game would hold me over, now I’m biting my nails again. This black team has some talent, but the O has not been it.
We're Texas, We're not OK.
TE didnt chip the DE at all even though the DE lined up way outside the TE
absolutely impossible for a HS senior LT to get out there against any1 that quick.
by ibleedburntorange49-9 on Jan 6, 2012 2:59 AM CST up reply actions
Cayleb Jones made a nice catch for a first down
For those without the game. The White team’s QB Dusty Mangum? is now playing QB for the Black team. Obviously he didn’t practice with the black team, but he is the best QB that has played on the Black team. I think the white team may be letting more 2nd/3rd stringers play defense.
We're Texas, We're not OK.
Thanks. I kept thinking I heard the name Dusty Mangum before and it wasn't at QB.
3rd Degree Longhorn
lol...sounds more like a kicker, huh?
We're Texas, We're not OK.
by Wrangler86 on Jan 5, 2012 9:37 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
It will all depend on Searels and Wylie, and whether than can turn our O Line into a strong agressive group.
If they do, Ash/Wallace can take us to 10 or 11 wins. If they don’t, were back to 8 or 9. Our D will keep us in most games, but we have to have a strong O Line to excel.
I'd kill for a Nobel Peace Prize
White team runs back a a touchdown on a punt
I guess they don’t call holding during the run backs.
3rd Degree Longhorn
I believe in miracles and I believe Landon Collins will shock the world and commit to UT!
"If you want to surf, move to Hawaii. If you like to shop, move to New York. If you like acting and Hollywood, move to California. But if you like college football, move to Texas."
-- Ricky Williams
We didn't even make final 2
Other guy just went to Bama….So I think it is safe to say
We're Texas, We're not OK.
Damn. That must have been hard for LSU fans to watch.
"If you want to surf, move to Hawaii. If you like to shop, move to New York. If you like acting and Hollywood, move to California. But if you like college football, move to Texas."
-- Ricky Williams
He needs to get away from Momma.
She could have ended up being a Craig James type of parent
3rd Degree Longhorn
Mom is not happy - bet this is subject to change
by pchorn on Jan 5, 2012 9:40 PM CST via iPhone app reply actions
Landon Collins
His momma is NOT happy with his choice of Bama. I bet that he ends up in Baton Rouge…His mother isn’t messing around and she’s from NOLA.
I can’t believe he picked Bama
We're Texas, We're not OK.
Yeah, and his mama shook her head NO
And then said Tigers are #1….very strange. She is still smacking his head.
We're Texas, We're not OK.
ESPN Agenda
This is all just a publicity stunt to promote the title game. Landon Collins wants to go to Texas but was pressured into choosing one of the teams in the title game. I wouldn’t be suprised if he decommits from Bama and switches to either LSU or Texas by signing day.
What a weeeiird commit
I told the people of my district that I would serve them as faithfully as I had done; but if not ... you may all go to hell, and I will go to Texas. -- Davey Crockett
by pleaseplaykindle on Jan 5, 2012 9:41 PM CST reply actions
Weird is say the least.
Against the whole family wishes is nothing you can proud of. He’s gonna be have a long not day but years to come. His ears will soon sicked and tired to hear of “I told you so…why you didn’t listen to me?” blah blah blah….
By the way, happy new year to you buddy! How’s your school going? Coming back to visit Austin soon?
I do not see his mother signing that LOI to Bama
I can’t imagine why he isn’t excited about his future at LSU, because that is where he is going.
We're Texas, We're not OK.
That's kind of how his mom looked at him
Like quit being a goof-off. You could tell he was creeping and she was not kidding.
We're Texas, We're not OK.
That's going to be a loooong car ride home tonight.
His mom was even waving around LSU purple and gold gloves. Eeesh.
Someone hit the nail on the head though — he may need to get away from her. Helicopter.
Just got back from Austin actually; couldn’t wait to get back to this zero degree weather .. grumble..
I told the people of my district that I would serve them as faithfully as I had done; but if not ... you may all go to hell, and I will go to Texas. -- Davey Crockett
by pleaseplaykindle on Jan 5, 2012 9:56 PM CST up reply actions
Haha...the helicopter
Hope you’ve great time with your family there. In Hong Kong, I got the cold damp weather here with drizzle. I thought it happens often in Austin. But there’s no immune from the other side of the globe, either. Crap!
Just to clarify
I think you’re confusing me with someone else. I don’t know anyone from Hong Kong. You seem like a nice guy though!
I told the people of my district that I would serve them as faithfully as I had done; but if not ... you may all go to hell, and I will go to Texas. -- Davey Crockett
by pleaseplaykindle on Jan 5, 2012 10:05 PM CST up reply actions
He's trying to show his mom he's a man
But he’s going to LSU…Saban should BACK off but wont’. That was weird. NONE of his friends/family clapped for him when he said it.
We're Texas, We're not OK.
ok i havent been around to watch the game since the 2nd quarter
i read earlier that Gray came off the field….please tell me its not serious….
In The Morning To You
MEJ drove Brewer into the turf....
Maybe gave him the concussion….either way, it doesn’t bode well for him committing to Texas IMO.
He has supposedly been hanging out with the Texas 10 all week
Surely, he could have made the tackle without driving into the turf.
im sure it wasnt malicious or anything like that
sometimes you hit harder than you meant to in a game like that
In The Morning To You
You can't be serious
It isn’t like that..He tackeled the kid. He didn’t Suh Stomp him or nothing like that.
We're Texas, We're not OK.
Are you Serious ?
He Picked up Brewer and slammed him into the turf!’
THEN DROVE HIM into the turf with his 300 LB self !
by BurntOrange83 on Jan 6, 2012 10:00 AM CST up reply actions
hes a competitor
you think Rod Wright would think twice about slamming VY’s head into the turf during a high school all star game?
In The Morning To You
Estelle
made himself look bad. He didnt block/pass protect all nite
"Stability is a factor in teams that win the championship. But if you stabilize on a team that's going to end up short of that, then all you're doing is spinning your wheels in the 45-win range."-----Daryl Morey
by fanoflosingteams on Jan 5, 2012 11:46 PM CST up reply actions
Sorry for my complete ignorance, but
Who is MEJ? Damn I hate acronyms.
On another note
…these announcers talked about no Oregon commits playing in the game. Pray this doesn’t jinx TJ into being a duck.
by pchorn on Jan 5, 2012 9:50 PM CST via iPhone app reply actions
Yes indeed ...
And Jones, while not a speed merchant, looks like he has really good hands and mo fear of contact.
by pchorn on Jan 5, 2012 9:54 PM CST via iPhone app up reply actions
Poor black team
Just scored with 20 seoconds left to make it 49-16, then pat is blocked. LOL
We're Texas, We're not OK.
kinda glad our guys were average
now we can put ego’s away and prepare to play football…
If a man in college kills 5 hookers and no one is there to hear it or see it, can he still run for the Senate?
I believe the term is
african american
I told the people of my district that I would serve them as faithfully as I had done; but if not ... you may all go to hell, and I will go to Texas. -- Davey Crockett
by pleaseplaykindle on Jan 5, 2012 9:57 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
look i like john gray plenty
can we nip the once in a lifetime narrative in the bud already. ridiculous.
yes we had Ricky... He was once in a lifetime and then Cedric...
I guess Thrice in a Lifetime…
If a man in college kills 5 hookers and no one is there to hear it or see it, can he still run for the Senate?
At least as to DGB
They just said this game won’t effect his decision between Ark, Mizzou and Tex. They didn’t mention OU…..
We're Texas, We're not OK.
Landen Collins aint gonna get no fried chicken dinner at home on Sunday !
I'd kill for a Nobel Peace Prize
UA Assessment
Brewer looked iffy and never really got into rhythm but he couldn’t because he was running for his life. He will benefit from a ’shirt. Hope he gets better soon.
TJ flashed but I did notice him not giving 100% at times. However, these games really aren’t a tell all…especially on O.
Estelle is RAW. Ward ate him alive. Hope we can ’shirt him but depth could be an issue. Riser did ok and should probably ’shirt as well…once again, depth issues.
Cayleb battling injuries and just didn’t look 100%. He should be a good one. Norman hurt as well.
JG is going to a special. Love his versatility. The lack of news about his injury concerns me though…not good.
Collins will be at LSU…his mom was pissed off and I mean PISSED. Not a good sign for Saban (although any chance to screw Saban is worth it).
MEJ is filthy. Should we flip him…we should be #1 again. Best DE ahead of Ward hands down. He is a gamer so don’t be concerned about him laying out Brewer.
As to TJ, I think the other visit is Cal from what Tipsy is saying. Hopefully we can hang onto him.
YES MBII was a highlight
The dude has a definite motor and could definitely see some time early which is great news.
Agree with all the rest. Brewer needs a redhsirt just to be on the track team to learn to run faster if our O Line is anything like the black team’s.
We're Texas, We're not OK.
At least our OL is developing and coming together...
That Black OL was horrible…MEJ, Ward, and Collins all on white’s D was just wrong in so many ways
Not too worried about Gray.
But it does make me wish he was enrolling early now…For my own personal selfishness I don’t want him hurting his knee any further.
ESPN Blogger said that Gray had fluid in his knee drained just before the State Championship game. Could’ve been the issue tonight he thought.
Be worried
Couldn’t put any pressure on that leg…usually a sign of a tear or cartilage damage. Fluid also builds after damage.
Usually in these games, if the injury is minor, they will say something…they said nothing about his injury which is a bad sign.
They didn't even help him off the field
I have little faith that they had much of a clue as to anything. I’m sure he will get into a top doc and then we will know what is up. Fortunately he has some time to heal.
We're Texas, We're not OK.
STLAW-- I asume because of your name your field of profession is Law...
which leads me to believe you are playing internet doctor…which makes you a dumbass.
Maybe you should be the one worried.
by Hippie Killer on Jan 6, 2012 3:54 PM CST up reply actions
wow
See ya later, alligator and sheep-mater.
by Paleface Horn on Jan 6, 2012 6:14 PM CST up reply actions
Not that anyone cares, but I officially HATE these classless, bullshit, worthless exhibition games.
It’s exists only so they can show Under Armour logo for 4 hours and you get to see embarrassing Springer bullshit commits like the Collins…ummm whatever that was. That is what being a scholar athlete is all about, right? Fuck the hat trick. Fuck the televised commits.
This is just the worst kind of spectacle and only leads to possible injuries. But only to our top two offensive recruits. No big deal, right?
Sorry for the rant, but Under Armour can bite me and seeing Brewer and Gray go down makes me think that Mack should FORBID his commits from attending. What’s the point if you’ve already committed? There is nothing but downside to these “games.”
by WreckerTex on Jan 5, 2012 10:17 PM CST reply actions 5 recs
Damn, talk about taking the fun out of it
But, that game really was pretty much a hot mess. Nothing looked under control and those “kids” on D hit way to hard for an Offense to have so little practice. The O is clearly on the short end in these things.
We're Texas, We're not OK.
Yeah, it was a truly awful "game." Defense will always have an advantage over a team
that doesn’t even know each other’s name. I can’t think of worse football game. What’s the point?
Bad for O usually
These games are pretty much worthless to evaluate O at all. Usually a D highlight reel. However, you’re right about the hype and spectacle crap…kids on TV.
Right. There is no evaluation except for fans hoping to see their commits do something good.
That’s the draw. Along with this televised commitments. There is no real coaching evaluation. It’s too late. Was Mack going to call Brewer and say, “You know, about that 93 yard pick six and the bell-ringing you took…I think we’re going to go in another direction. But thanks for your time. Buh-bye.” Click.
Isn't Brewer supposed to enroll early?
Hope his consussion isn’t too bad so he can practice. He didn’t look so good on the sidelines. Estelle really sucked on that play. Yeah, these games always give me worries about injuries and tonight showed why. Hopefully the Army AA game goes better.
if we flip mario edwards JR
and he cites spending time with 10(TEN) texas commits at the UA game…would you change your mind?
by ibleedburntorange49-9 on Jan 6, 2012 3:06 AM CST up reply actions
Point taken.
But no, I wouldn’t change my mind. This game shouldn’t exist. The NCAA should disallow these games, but since they do exist, are we really at a recruiting disadvantage if we have no presence?
Tough to say, but I still don’t think it’s worth the risk. I wonder if these last second recruits are the ones we want even if they are the top athletes. Yes, I would like Mario on the team. No, I wouldn’t risk the health of 10 players to maybe get his attention.
The injuries to Brewer and Gray scared me to death. And the Springeresque commitments made me sick. Next year expect chair throwing and a studio audience.
too much money goes into the games for the NCAA to disallow it
but i think our recruits presence is good for national perception among OOS recruits.
by ibleedburntorange49-9 on Jan 6, 2012 3:07 PM CST up reply actions
I guess it was nine commits. Do you think seeing UT commits bail helps our chances with Mario?
Sorry. Still hate this game. And if Mario signs with us I’ll still hate. And I’ll hate it when I watch it again next year. ; )
Well...I'm ready to be a K-State cheerleader
Good Luck K-State, beat the hell out of the hogs!!!!
We're Texas, We're not OK.
Collins...Mama Gonna Knock you out!
His mom was pissed. No way he ends up at Bama when its all said and done. Sad but it was funny. Best part of the game.
by Dawnpatrol on Jan 5, 2012 10:42 PM CST via mobile reply actions
Everyone including the talking heads thought he was going to say LSU
It actually was funny, because his mom called him out to his face…..I really can’t wait to hear him say he did it on a dare. When they asked why Bama he didn’t even know what to say. She looked at him like, yeah, big man, why Bama?
We're Texas, We're not OK.
I think we saw why he's going to Bama...
To get away from his crazy mom. Can’t blame the kid one bit. His mom would prob be trying live in his dorm at LSU.
by Dawnpatrol on Jan 6, 2012 8:25 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
JG Injury
Per post over at Recruitocosm/BC…JG Dad texted 247 and said it was his ankle and should be fine. Good news indeed
Well, we also don't need to worry about Brewer getting a big head
And throwing us back if we do take JUCO Bo Wallace.
I was going to inseart a big head joke but that’s what she said.
We're Texas, We're not OK.
Right, but even with UT's O-line, he will have more than .000001 seconds
to scan and release. Maybe like .00001. : )
Question on your avatar.
Is that supposed to be Fozzy’s funeral?
"If crime was justified by need it would be the occupation of the masses."- Chief Gillespie
Bryson Echols
He played pretty well. With all the bad, he was anothe bright spot.
We're Texas, We're not OK.
Yep
Very technically sound. Small, but he’ll be good!
GoBR...
If T. Johnson de-commits, will Texas offer Corey Coleman?
Landon Collins
with the commit Bama is listed with 26 recruits. Didnt SEC put in a 25 limit scholarship? Is Bama ignoring it or was it all BS?
I'm sure some of those recruits will enroll early or are junior college kids that won't count towards the 25
similar to what Texas is doing this year.
"If crime was justified by need it would be the occupation of the masses."- Chief Gillespie
What you are describing is the NCAA limit of 25 per class
I thought the SEC added some type of limit on top of the NCAA 25
yes
i was talking about the SEC imposed limit
Saban doesn't worry about limits....from Michigan State, to LSU and now Bama, he will talk under performers or injured guys to give up their rides or take medicals. It is one of the reasons for his teams success for years.
I'd kill for a Nobel Peace Prize
by MeatchickenHorn on Jan 6, 2012 11:07 AM CST up reply actions
codaxx - I was responding to 2Cor12:9
I have the same question as you as to how the 2 are different.

































