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Texas Shocked By Oklahoma State in Stillwater, Tourney Hopes Again Jeopardized

Coming off of four straight wins, it looked like a Texas basketball team was finally peaking at the right time to take some momentum into March and secure a tournament bid that had been in serious jeopardy prior to those victories. A career-high 40 points from Oklahoma State senior guard Keiton Page and a massive advantage at the foul line (56 to 18) helped the Pokes kill any and all Longhorn momentum with a crushing, infuriating, frustrating, disappointing, unacceptable 90-78 loss on Saturday at Gallagher-Iba Arena in Stillwater.

Silly, senseless fouls helped the Cowboys bury the 'Horns in the first half behind 27 points from Page, who had scored only 21 in the previous five games against Texas and had, in fact, not scored a single basket from the field in the friendly confines of GIA since 2009. But the 'Horns fouled Paige three times on jumpshots in the first half, including two behind the arc when big men left their feet in ill-advised attempts to impact the diminutive guard's shots and another two trips to the line when Page was fouled off the ball.

Combine that with a defensive breakdown from Texas guard Julien Lewis early in the game that allowed Page an easy look at the basket to increase his confidence and Page was on his way to a career night.

Star-divide

Texas also suffered mightily in the first half as a result of the absence of starting point guard and major facilitator Myck Kabongo, who once again let his teammates down by taking himself out of the game after being one of the major perpetrators of those silly and senseless fouls that killed the Horns. The lightning-fast frosh gave one foul almost under his own basket following a turnover and then was responsible for one of the fouls committed against Page in the act of shooting after trailing Page off of a curl, a screen that Texas had a terrible time defending the entire game.

By the end of the first half, then, it was hardly a surprise to see Page hit a last-second three from well behind the arc, considering that he had already had several good looks and 14 made free throws to make the basket look that much bigger. Make no mistake here -- the 40 points that Texas gave up to the senior guard were a direct result of letting him gain confidence early. Had the 'Horns managed to contest Page enough early in the game to cause some misses and kept him off the line, it's entirely possible that he never would have even approached his career high in points.

But Texas failed to defend him well and Page, to his credit, took full advantage with the game of a lifetime, surpassing his previous career high of 29 points against Murray State by early in the second half and coming within two points of matching the Big 12 record for most points scored in a half.

Defensively, this may have been the worst performance of the season for Texas and the poor play went well beyond the effort against Page. As a team, the 'Horns failed to communicate on the back screens that Oklahoma State was setting, resulting in easy baskets at the rim, in addition to giving up several buckets on back-door cuts. The help defense was often late and ineffective when it ever came at all. For a coach who hangs his hat on defensive effort and execution, Rick Barnes will not be happy about this performance when he gets in the film room.

So even though Texas never gave up, particularly junior guard J'Covan Brown, who was part of a major surge in the second half that put the Longhorns in position to have a chance down the stretch, it was the porous defense that ultimately let the team down again, as Page shook JCB with an impressive crossover to knock down a monumental three before Alexis Wangmene decided it would be prudent to stand at the elbow and watch the ball while his man stood under the basket waiting to receive the ball to dunk it home.

After that, the game was once again out of reach as the Pokes closed it out at the free throw line.

If there was a positive for Texas, it was the play of freshman forward Sheldon McClellan, who continued his recent strong play with an efficient 15-point performance on only eight shots, hitting six of his attempts from the field. Of those 15 points, 10 came in the first half when McClellan was a major reason Texas was even in striking distance entering the final frame, taking advantage of his height and athleticism to exploit Page, who was inexplicably guarding him during much of the first 20 minutes.

If anything, the Longhorns did poorly in the second half not to feed McClellan more often and some of the blame there falls on Rick Barnes, who opted to start fellow freshman Julien Lewis in the second half instead of McClellan, despite the fact that Lewis turned the ball over several times in the first half, which played a major role in the Oklahoma State surge that initially created separation.

The bottom line is that McClellan needs to play more often, if not start, if the Longhorns want to have a chance down the stretch to make the tournament and advance past the first round.

Speaking of the NCAA tournament, the ramifications of losing this game are significant, if not catastrophic. With a number of other teams on the currently soft bubble losing, the dispiriting defeat in Stillwater didn't kill the Texas chances of making the field, or even make the Baylor or Kansas games must-wins. Take care of business against Oklahoma and Texas Tech and win two games in the Big 12 tournament, and there's a strong chance the 'Horns still make the tourney, even with loses against the Bears and Jayhawks.

That being said, however, the margin of error is extremely small for this team and a victory on Monday night at home against a Baylor team that could be reeling after a close home loss against Kansas State on Saturday would go a long way towards relieving some of that pressure. It's the biggest game of the season and an opportunity for the team to take a step forward once again after continuing the season-long trend of suffering significant setbacks following any signs of progress.

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Anyone can win a game if you have the refs not calling a legit game

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by kcmorse on Feb 18, 2012 6:13 PM CST reply actions  

The refs were a part of it

but only a part. This team is not well coached because Barnes is not a quality head coach.

by bevomav on Feb 18, 2012 6:55 PM CST up reply actions  

There were some questionable fouls and some inconsistency

OSU got calls that we didn’t get. However, I hope Barnes can somehow train the players to not go for shot fakes, especially if the shooter is shorter than them.

Not like Barnes would ever do this, but he should show them tape of Shane Battier and how he guards players. He doesn’t even go for the block or even jump. He puts his right hand directly over the shooter’s face, and it seems to work. He’s notorious for giving Kobe Bryant trouble for example.

by goingforthecorner on Feb 18, 2012 7:01 PM CST up reply actions  

Freshmen are frustrating

They are responsible for most of the silly fouls and bad turnovers. And it is not just Kabongo. Holmes, Bond and Lewis all do it as well. Rick just needs some experienced talent. No offense to Wangmene or Chapman, but the ong experienced talent on the team is J’Covan.

by Hook'em Horns on Feb 19, 2012 7:59 AM CST via mobile up reply actions  

When the difference in FT is that large...

It is very difficult to be convinced that officiating was the main factor in our losing. They don’t get all the blame, because the offensive production looked to be like JCB/Kabongo were the only ones that had any kind of consistency.

by LonghorninRaiderland on Feb 19, 2012 10:49 AM CST via Android app up reply actions  

When the FT difference is that large...

it means that everything was a factor. Officiating, offense, defense, etc.

Actually, the Texas offense as a whole was quite efficient. My numbers have them at 111 points / 100 possessions for the game, which is very good. It isn’t like Texas didn’t get to the line. They took 18 free throws, which is a little bit low for them, but not too far off.

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by Reggieball on Feb 19, 2012 2:38 PM CST up reply actions  

Sheldon McClellan should be a starter. Wangmene should coach basketball... in Cameroon.

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by 512 on Feb 18, 2012 6:27 PM CST via iPhone app reply actions  

Every time I say I don't think I could see a more poorly officiated game

The refs prove me wrong again and again. After a beautifully called game Tues, I just can’t fathom how the Big XII can employ both sets of refs. I know Page was fouled sometimes, but on 3 occasions he just fell down without the ball and turned it in to 6 points.

Is it too much to ask for the players to decide the game?

by RQ on Feb 18, 2012 6:41 PM CST via iPhone app reply actions  

I am done with Barnes

His ‘one and done’ style of recruiting is a failed venture. He should have talked the three players from last season into staying at least another year but he encouraged them to go into the draft. None of the three is playing and will be gone in a year of two.

Worse, this group of underachievers will be go into the draft and Barnes will start over. It’s like groundhog day without the humor. Fire his azz and bring in a coach who can recruit and keep players longer than one year.

by bevomav on Feb 18, 2012 6:53 PM CST reply actions  

It's frustrating they all went given how Ohio St. could keep Sullinger, UNC could keep Barnes, etc.

but the irony of your complaint is that the most recent wave of freshmen it appears will be exactly what we’ve wanted for awhile – program players. There’s not a single freshman on this roster that will be one and done. Let’s just hope they pan out and actually turn into good players. We’ve had our fair share of busts.

by goingforthecorner on Feb 18, 2012 6:59 PM CST up reply actions  

True...

I guess I am most frustrated by his inability to keep players. The three guys who left last season had no reason to go pro and he should have emphasized that to them.

Hook em anyway!

by bevomav on Feb 18, 2012 7:08 PM CST up reply actions  

Disagree about that

Tristan would never have been drafted that high this year. CoJo wouldn’t have been a first round pick this year.

Hamilton should’ve came back, and if he did we would be so much better ( obviously). However, he and Barnes may have had a bit of an argument making him want to leave even more. Barnes allegedly talked down his defense( and coach ability I think) to NBA teams, causing Hamilton’s stock to drop.

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by Mclovin1035 on Feb 18, 2012 7:16 PM CST up reply actions  

If only Barnes learned

to mix them. Don’t recruit all one and dones one season. Last year we only had 2 recruits, and they are both gone.

10: TT and Cojo( gone)
09: Bradley, Hamilton Williams (gone), J’Covan
08: Varez Ward ( gone)

I think that’s our biggest problem. We don’t spread the returning players out enough. Barnes also doesn’t play a decent amount of guys or give them a chance.

Shawn Williams barely got to play, b4 his injury. He was fairly highly rated coming out of HS, he should’ve gotten a chance. Barnes played Matt Hill the whole 09-10 season and gave chapman 16 games. If you reverse the two, Chapman might be a better player.

Harrison Smith didn’t get a chance either. His 1 opportunity was @ Okie State in 09 when he scored 11 points for a team that struggled to score.

Too many busts combined with 1 + dones = failures in the tourney. Though Wangmene and Chapman are improved, Chappy especially hasn’t developed into the best player from oregon ( in Kevin Love’s class mind you) Wangmene was huge vs TAMU and KState, but just not consistent enough.

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by Mclovin1035 on Feb 18, 2012 7:13 PM CST up reply actions  

Hill

At the time, he was much, much better than chapman. As a coach, you have to play the guys who will give you the best chance to win right now.

by HookemHouston on Feb 18, 2012 9:31 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Uhhh no

Hill was nothing on offense. Never has been. Chapman scored a couple of quick baskets vs. Kstate in the 2010 game. But never really got his chance. Remember this team’s biggest problem was playing with Mason and Balbay 2 guys who couldn’t score. By playing Hill the team couldn’t score either which would leave James and whoever the only 2 guys on the floor who could produce. Chappy made his share of mistakes and was kind of a punch line as well his first 3 years here, but on the offensive side of the ball he was the much better player.

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by Mclovin1035 on Feb 18, 2012 10:21 PM CST up reply actions  

Yes but

Chapman was as skinny as a stick! He still is, but he was even more uncoordinated back then. I agree that we had no one to score (so painful to watch!) but I just don’t think chap was the answer at the time.

by HookemHouston on Feb 19, 2012 9:37 AM CST via mobile up reply actions  

as long as somebody's bitching about recruiting, i have a question

don’t all division 1 schools get 13 scholarships?

Why do we only have 11 guys on the team (with 2 scholarships going to Melchioni and Dick)

I know you want to make sure you have scholarships to cover the next recruiting year, and it’s difficult to plan for, but, no offense to Melchioni and Dick, shouldn’t they remain walk-ons which would’ve left us 2 more scholarship players to recruit this year?

Syracuse suits up 20 guys cuz people so badly want to play for them. Can we really not attract just some solid lengthy athletes (who could actually give us some hustle minutes) to round out the roster?

to be clear, I think this year’s class has a lot of potential (i think Myck will go pro), and next year’s class should fit really well with these guys.

by following on Feb 18, 2012 8:25 PM CST up reply actions  

Good question

Last season we only got Tristan and CoJo, we needed to get at least one more guy as well to have some experience. The problem is that the only remnants we have from the 08-10 recruiting classes is J’Covan, who I’d take over anyone else from any of those classes but that’s besides the point.

Kevin Thomas should’ve been here ( but failed to qualify bc of academics) but that would’ve cost us Jaylen.

We may get 6 guys next season, to bring us to 13 though

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by Mclovin1035 on Feb 18, 2012 9:08 PM CST up reply actions  

math

ok – if JCB & Myck return, that would mean 9 scholarships already (6 fish + JCB + Melchioni/Dick). which only leaves 4 scholarships – and we’ve already awarded them: Ibeh, Felix, Lammert, Papa. so they’ll have to ditch somebody to sign Ridley? (or they’re assuming that at least JCB or Myck is gone)

that’s why i think Ridley’s not gonna be here next year – cuz unless they KNOW that JCB or Myck will be gone, they can’t sign him

by following on Feb 19, 2012 2:37 PM CST up reply actions  

Are Melchioni and Dick going to get scholarships next year?

I thought this was just a one year thing, as they scholarships were available. These guys are walk ons.

This sort of thinking does show why you don’t want to extend too many offers, and why there will be years where you aren’t using all of your scholarships. Otherwise, you can lose players.

For example, consider how Jaylen Bond ended up at Texas. Pitt had signed more guys than they had scholarships for. No one knows if Bond asked out of his letter of intent, or if he was encouraged to ask out of it.

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by Reggieball on Feb 19, 2012 2:43 PM CST up reply actions  

Great. Then we shouldn't have to read your uninformed posts anymore.

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by Johngo on Feb 18, 2012 8:48 PM CST up reply actions  

Probably one of the worst defensive performances I've ever seen from Texas

56 free throws attempted by OSU is embarrassing. Sure the refs had something to do with it, but when OSU gets free points at the foul line, it ruins our defense and offense. Fouling prevents us from getting turnovers or long rebounds and creating offense off of them in the fast break (Kabongo was a one-man fast break at times today).

I’m so sick of referees having such a big impact on games and ruining our offensive and defensive game plans by getting players in foul trouble – both in the NBA and college. I’d really like to see basketball just get rid of player disqualification via fouling out and the concept of “foul trouble” to begin with. It’s terrible for the game and for paying customers that want to see the best product. Instead of fouling out players, just award the other team technical free throws plus possession if a player gets called for his 5th foul and every foul after that.

by goingforthecorner on Feb 18, 2012 6:57 PM CST reply actions  

I Agree 100%

With the disqualification for fouls rule. In no other sport is a player disqualified for too many penalties. What if a football lineman got booted out of a game if he had 2 holding calls? What if a defensive back was sent to the sidelines if he had x number of intereference calls? The basketball rule is ridiculous. Just because that has been the rule for 100 years doesn’t mean it needs to stay that way. A foul has almost become an arbitrary call – it can be called on almost every play, or on the flip side, it cannot be called. And as you say, in a competition customers/fans want to see the best players compete. There has to be some alternate way to treat excessive fouls without disqualifying a player.

by gcinthewoods on Feb 18, 2012 7:49 PM CST up reply actions  

Intentional fouls

What other sport has intentional rule breaking as a major strategy?

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by Caradoc on Feb 19, 2012 7:39 AM CST up reply actions  

Texas was awful in every phase of the game

They fouled too much, committed too many turnovers and just didn’t execute at all. The team’s lack of fundamentals were apparent today, which has been a signature of the Barnes era, when they decided to let page shoot 14 FT’s in the 1st half.

The bubble has been burst. This team doesn’t deserve a tourney bid anyways. Should’ve beat KU and Mizzou but didn’t thanks to Coach X’s and O’s. I will never be able to take Texas basketball seriously again. From 09-10 and last season to the way we can’t beat anyone good or win close games its pathetic. With a better coach Texas has at least 6 less losses, and that may be a conservative estimate.

Can we stop blaming the officials. We sound like Aggie or Kstate fans. The officials usually have home cooking, but today was a case of us not playing well on defense. Plain and simple. I want to see Gibbs play more, sure he committed 3 fouls, but he actually looks like he can hit shots at times. I’ve seen almost every game this season, and realize that he may be a liability in some areas, but we need to fix something

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by Mclovin1035 on Feb 18, 2012 7:03 PM CST reply actions  

Interesting

1) Agreed about the officials. Texas isn’t losing because of the whistles. This is on them and their play today. They didn’t play well and the result is exactly what happens when a bubble team doesn’t play well on the road: A Loss.

2) So with a better coach, Texas would be 23-4? This team doesn’t have that kind of talent. Not even that close really. I’ve said from the get-go that Texas can do better than Rick Barnes. They have the resources to go out and buy a world-class hoops coach and build a world-class hoops program. That being said, I think Barnes had done a nice job with this particular team. They’ve been extremely competitive (today being an exception) despite the youth and talent issues surrounding them.

3) For what its worth, I think 9-9 and a non flame-out in the Big XII tourney gets Texas in. Playing on Tuesday and last four in, but I think it would be good enough. I certainly don’t think the bubble has been burst by any stretch.

by DoubleB on Feb 18, 2012 7:20 PM CST up reply actions  

I guess

Maybe the close losses are the best that we can get from these guys. I see them as the coach doing an awful job at the end of the games such as KU and Mizzou. With a better X’s and O’s guy we have a much better record in close games IMO. We win at least 1 game in NJ, win in Ames, possibly beat Mizzou @ mizzou( we didn’t get J’Covan the ball enough, ) though we may not win that one which would’ve been okay. Definitely we beat KU and Mizzou at home, potentially beat Kstate and Baylor on the road and could’ve won this one. Maybe 6 is too high, but I definitely think it would be possible.

I disagree about this team not having the talent. With a better coach in game, we beat KU and Mizzou. Its that simple. They are currently top 5 teams, so obviously we would be good enough to have a record near theirs.

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by Mclovin1035 on Feb 18, 2012 7:37 PM CST up reply actions  

you're discounting the fact that there's 4 other coaches on the sideline

and the play they drew up at the end of the A&M game worked fine, because they executed it

plus, we really have only one quality upperclassman

by following on Feb 18, 2012 8:38 PM CST up reply actions  

A&M

was the only game that we seemingly had a play. I understand it comes down to execution, but rarely has Texas run set plays with the game on the line in the past. Or at least I don’t see the plays work often. I get the whole inexperience but we were good enough to beat 2 potential one seeds with better coaching at the end we beat at least one of them. Maybe both games were flukes, but I’m not sure you can deny Barnes being an awful in game coach

"There's more to it than just winning games" - Rick Barnes

by Mclovin1035 on Feb 18, 2012 9:11 PM CST up reply actions  

i just can't say that
  1. - because i have NO idea what he’s ever said in a game huddle or in a practice
  1. - don’t know if you ever seen Barne’s LHN “game plan” show, but he couldn’t be more into X’s and O’s
  1. - correct me if i’m wrong, but the winning play at A&M involved the 3 upperclassmen – Chap & Lex set the gate that sprung JCB. so yeah, maybe if they run plays they should only involve the upperclassmen, but they’re not always on the floor, and the freshmen have to learn to execute in games (practice doesn’t count)

by following on Feb 19, 2012 2:42 PM CST up reply actions  

Fair enough

I watched the replay, it looked like Holmes was on the floor for the play. Let’s put this season aside and give him a pass for it. He’s doing a decent job, though I think a better in game coach would yield much better results.

You can’t deny that this team has collapsed the past 2 seasons, really badly. That being said, I think it comes down to coaching. When I see mistakes happen repeatedly by different players, a team usually not be able to buy FT’s ( again omitting this year) and consistently have problems inbounding the ball, and score when needed late in the game. I put that on the coach. And just basics of basketball. So I understand this team is young, and will grow and what not, but I just can’t buy into the fact that that’s the whole reason why. This past season in football, I believe it was. We played a lot of young guys, had injuries and had a new coaching staff. Mack has earned my trust by winning 2 national titles( more or less) and consistency b4 2010. But Barnes’ teams have been unable to advance past the 1st weekend of the tourney since 08, and just seem to be missing the coaching needed to get to the next level and avoid stupid mistakes that have lost us games.

"There's more to it than just winning games" - Rick Barnes

by Mclovin1035 on Feb 19, 2012 4:41 PM CST up reply actions  

so who are some coaches you like?

if UT had to hire a new coach for next year, who would you approach? and is there any chance that they’d say yes? (cuz they’d rather coach at UT than wherever they’re at now)

Mike Bray (brey?) is clearly a great coach. I like Buzz Williams ( a texan ) and i think Marquette over-achieves every year (though they wouldn’t meet your standard of elite 8’s or better on a consistent basis). Izzo is probably my favorite, but Coach K is clearly the best.

The best coaches EVER have only won a handful of national championships (excepting John Wooden). And, as many have said here, Barnes’ accomplishments stack up with the very best coaches in the country, and it’s been a drama / scandal – free program.

I think Bill Self is the only better coach in the conference, but Kansas has a basketball tradition far richer than what exists (or will ever exist) at Texas. UT is a football school. The only better programs in the country (excepting maybe Izzo at Mich.St.) are traditional basketball schools – that’s their identity.

as far as last year’s collapse – i don’t know how you blame anybody but the player when, say, Gary Johnson stops taking his money shot from the elbow and starts trying to do too much from other spots on the floor.

anyway, it’s a tough game — are Jamie Dixon and Jay Wright suddenly terrible coaches?

by following on Feb 19, 2012 5:48 PM CST up reply actions  

I think Dixon is overrated

When you can’t succeed in march, you’re not that great of a coach. I see Pittsburgh getting high seeds year after year ( aside from this year of course) and they have yet to get to a final four. Dixon’s teams have gotten to the 2nd weekend 1 time in the past five seasons( after this year). And the way they lost the Butler game was classic. I’ve never bought into Dixon being a great coach, and this season is seemingly validating just that.

Wright on the other hand has struggled, but has also brought a good amount of success in recent years.

My wishlist would be:
1. Brad Stevens- Obvious choice, unlikely to say yes
2. Buzz Williams- Probably would stay at Marquette unless we offer enough $
3. Shaka Smart- Maybe it was a fluke last season, but VCU is pretty good and I love up and coming coaches . We could probably get him. I think he’d be able to recruit just fine with the resources at UT.

I agree Barnes has accomplished a lot, but it was all at least 4 seasons ago. That’s the problem I have, until he gets us back to the elite 8 or final 4 or even the sweet 16 right now, the collapses of 09-10 and 10-11 will be more recent. It is because of this lack of success in the past 2 seasons, that I feel that he has lost his touch. I’d disagree in saying that the only programs better are traditional basketball schools, Butler has been good for years with the exception of this one ( but texas is also down), If you want to compare with earlier Barnes years’ I’ll take Florida’s resume since 02-03. I’d gladly trade a few NIT runs for two national titles. Ohio State has also done a really good job the past couple of years, do they underacheive? Absolutely, but at least they are getting to the 2nd weekend of the tournament. I’d put Texas easily in the top 20 programs in the country on the fringe of top 15. But I wouldn’t say they are only behind “basketball” schools.

As far as Gary Johnson is concerned. Its the coach’s job to tell a player what to do or stop doing ( though the players sometimes don’t listen). I would blame last year’s collapse more so on poor FT shooting which some would say is on the players. Though I think its on the coach, when his team consistently can’t buy points from the charity stripe .

"There's more to it than just winning games" - Rick Barnes

by Mclovin1035 on Feb 19, 2012 8:40 PM CST up reply actions  

i like Smart as well

and he got a lot of big program experience at Florida

financially speaking, i’d think UT wouldn’t run into financial hardship offering Buzz the $ he’d want

Stevens is a good coach, obviously, though my “feeling” is that he wouldn’t be a good fit here, and he wouldn’t be at all interested. but your list (which is basically identical to mine, except Smart is my #1) also demonstrates that there aren’t any “old school experienced” coaches to be hired. And i’ve mentioned it before, but i’m 99% sure Bob Lanier will be the next head coach at UT.

btw, i like John Thompson jr. because his teams always seem to be great at interior passing (Pitt as well – until this year – they don’t play D).

but if look at your criteria, you’ll realize that there is no coach good enough for you to hire, cuz nobody will ever be able to sustain that level of success

we were pretty bad from the line all year, so no surprise that it bit us in the ass at the end – but remember, the end of the Arizona game was tragically comical and there wasn’t anything Barnes (or his players) could do about it. The previous year demonstrated the fatal flaw of having a big man that can’t stay on the court (something we’ve seen way too much of this year), and not having great team chemistry.

you can say the teams of the last 2 years “collapsed” or you can say that they had flaws that would eventually be exposed. (only 1 out of almost 400 teams manages to make it out to the other side each year, and several Great teams fail every year)

i haven’t been crazy about Barnes’ court-side demeanor sometimes, but this year he seems to have mellowed some. He has an extremely dry sense of humor – but his players know what they’re getting. I really like Izzo’s style, but that’s just my preference. Coach K looks like an insane homicidal rat on the sidelines a lot of the time, but it gets the message across.

i’ve defended Barnes’ philosophy of trying to help his kids achieve their NBA goals. if people are willing to accept a few lean years, then, yeah, you could recruit a bunch of 4 year kids and depend more on teamwork / fluidity / familiarity than elite athleticism. But it doesn’t appear too many people would be happy if suddenly we were an average program for a few years. It’d also be kinda dumb to turn down high caliber talent that would be happy to play for you. but it’s a double-edged sword – the better they are, the less time they’ll stay. If i was his boss – i’d insist that you recruit some guys with a national championship (and big 12 championship) as a goal that they’re determined to achieve and willing to work at for 4 years. (good luck finding that in elite athletes in our culture—it’s a rare commodity—- especially when KD demonstrates that you can go back to school & get your degree after you turn pro.)

Calipari can succeed because he’s a great coach and he gets the cream of the crop, but there’s a significant drop in talent/athleticism between the tip top of the class and the next tier of kids. I was skeptical of the hype around Anthony Davis, but he’s proven he’s the real deal – guys like that just don’t come around very often cuz they are freaks of nature

by following on Feb 19, 2012 11:01 PM CST up reply actions  

it was an awful performance

almost zero contribution from the frontline, way too many dumb fouls committed, shameful defense, terrible game from Lewis (in some ways, he peaked in the season opener). OSU was quicker to the ball all day long

all that said, we were within 3 points with 6 minutes to go. Then Holmes tried to go up under duress (with Chap wide open for a dunk or lay-in (which he probably would’ve missed considering his performance today)), and terrible defense on the other end, and there went our momentum and the game

i’ll be happy when Holmes gets to play the 3 next year and we’ve got a lot more length and some actual post players

JCB has really been our only consistent player this year (though McClellan is starting to get it in gear)

by following on Feb 18, 2012 8:35 PM CST up reply actions  

New Commit

Kyle Hicks commits per Hookem.com.

I think they have been the first to report every commit for the 2013 class. They are killing it.

by Dont.Mess.With.Texas. on Feb 18, 2012 7:09 PM CST via mobile reply actions  

Yup
I think they have been the first to report every commit for the 2013 class. They are killing it.

I believe its their day job. They should be killing it.

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by kriess on Feb 18, 2012 9:12 PM CST up reply actions  

Le'Bryan Nash looks like first round potential

surprised I don’t see him in the latest NBA mock drafts. Damn, that alley-oop dunk he had where it seemed like he wasn’t expecting it was FILTHY.

by goingforthecorner on Feb 18, 2012 8:06 PM CST reply actions  

Inconsistent.

Selfish at times. Hasn’t shot well from the outside. Do agree about the potential that he flashes at times and I think it’s been more difficult for him than he expected this season, but he needs some more time in college before he is ready. Don’t think he will take advantage of it, though, and it could be a major mistake for him.

by Wescott Eberts (GoBR) on Feb 18, 2012 8:11 PM CST up reply actions  

+/- numbers

Holmes +6 (20 min)
Chapman +1 (19 min)
Gibbs -1 (10 min)
Brown -5 (38 min)
Kabongo -5 (30 min)
Lewis -8 (20 min)
Bond -8 (17 min)
Wangmene -8 (12 min)
McClellan -9 (28 min)

Interesting that Sheldon had the worst +/- when we all agree that he should be getting more PT. He did commit a few bad fouls, and we didn’t take advantage of Page guarding him nearly as we should have. That’s on Barnes and the point guards for not recognizing that.

by goingforthecorner on Feb 18, 2012 8:20 PM CST reply actions  

we lost:

because barnes did not have this team prepared. i thought with mizzou losing at stillwater, he’d have a game plan ready. he had NOTHING. i still like barnes and think he’s a good fit for texas, but this one is on him.

terrible game plan. terrible defense. terrible officiating. but you know what? we got the kstate win because frank martin did the same thing. hopefully we win 3/4 and solidify the ncaa with a big 12 win. i really think we can beat baylor as scott drew is a poor man’s rick barnes and they are actually getting WORSE as the season goes on.

by elcapitan009 on Feb 18, 2012 11:28 PM CST reply actions  

Page was amazing

Page had a career game. The horns are not strong defensively at guard. Kabongo is super quick but still learning the ropes. Brown is slow and will never be a real good man to man defender (though he has great instincts/timing to go for the ball).

Frosh are notorious for playing poorer on the road than at home and the horns are playing 6 frosh. OSU played well and the horns were not their sharpest. It is tough to win on the road in the Big 12 and it is tough to get up for every game when you play that often.

This makes the Baylor game much more interesting and important.

Winning two games in the Big 12 tourney will be tough. The horns likely finish 4th, 5th, or 6th, which exempts them from playing the first day (i.e. playing a relatively easy game).

by Kafka on Feb 18, 2012 11:45 PM CST reply actions  

Barnes' coaching this year

Barnes has done a good job this year. The players have performed better than expected. The team chemistry, morale, and cohesiveness have been much better than I anticipated. The horns are actually running an offense rather than just standing around watching Brown (most of the time). With 6 frosh in the 9 man playing rotation, things could have been much, much worse.

by Kafka on Feb 19, 2012 12:01 AM CST reply actions   1 recs

exactly

and the sun doesn’t rise & set on the NCAA tourney. and if we qualify, we’d be overperforming to make it past the 2nd round

so i don’t see any reason to get my panties in a wad over not making the tournament, or in only winning a 1st round game. i’ve been looking forward to next year since this season began. partly because i think we could be a pretty fun, dangerous team even if JCB & Kabongo are gone, and Ridley doesn’t show. Ibeh’s no Anthony Davis, but he’ll probably lead the big 12 in blocks.

Lunardi stated last night that UT’s back to a play-in game, unless they beat Baylor tomorrow

let’s skin a bear!

by following on Feb 19, 2012 2:52 PM CST reply actions  

Taking the long view...

I think you have the right approach. This team is capable of very good play, and has played pretty well this year. But it is not a great team. If you want a really strong team of freshman, they have to be of the sort that we see at Kentucky, or the Fab 5.

This team is laying the groundwork for the next really strong Texas basketball team.

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by Reggieball on Feb 19, 2012 3:19 PM CST up reply actions  

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