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What to do with a few guys...?

Where do you guys see the following guys fitting in with NEXT seasons team...if at all...? I see these 6 players as names that did not have the biggest impact on last years team but could seriously contribute in 2012.

Reggie Wilson?

Joe Bergeron?

Demarco Cobbs?

DJ Monroe?

Miles Onyegbule? (the guy is 6'4" 220)

Mykkele Thompson?

I see Reggie as a guy that could play inside in passing situations but I really haven't been overly impressed with him off the edge.

Joe Bergeron has the potential to be the goal line back of Mack's dreams. He should help us inside the 20s, as long as we don't give him 29 FREAKING CARRIES in a game again. Which Harsinwhite won't.

Demarco Cobbs has always been a player Ive been excited about. I think he is much like Emmanuel Acho athletically, lets just hope he can diagnose plays like ManAcho.

DJ Monroe...isnt it funny how a couple years ago we were all upset with DJ not getting the ball enough. Now we have a few "DJ Monroe's" on campus and touches could come at a premium. I see him taking a few jet sweeps and such but he better learn how to catch the damn ball.

Miles Onyegbule...as I said early, he's huge! We need that big guy down around the goal since we are inept at TE currently. With that size, Harsin should be able to create 1 on 1's in the red area. I feel we really need this to help out whoever is going to be our QB next season.

Mykkele Thompson...with all the talent at DBU, can this talented db find a spot to actually play? We have so much young talent at his position, does he get a real look next year in the nickel?

You thoughts? Hook Em

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Mean joe

I don’t understand the logic of putting Bergeron as a FB and and goaline back. He has shown better burst than even Brown. He destroyed TTU and I think this conversation would be much different if he wouldnt of been injured last year. I think Bergeron will be a feature RB this year. He doesn’t belong in the cody johnson role.

by horninraidercountry on Feb 4, 2012 3:28 PM CST via mobile reply actions  

stats

Just a bit of stats for my statement (I am not a stats guy).

Brown-ATT YDS AVG LONG TD
172 742 4.3 27 5

Bergeron-ATT YDS AVG LONG TD
72 463 6.4 51 5

by horninraidercountry on Feb 4, 2012 3:40 PM CST up reply actions  

Bergeron

Got his stats against who again? Kansas and Tech you say?…
I’m excited about him but it’s a stretch to point to his stats as evidence that he’s better than Brown.

by Nickel Rover on Feb 4, 2012 6:19 PM CST up reply actions  

Better is more of an opinion.

Before I disagree with you, just want to let you know your articles at BC are freaking awesome.

The stats are more of support that Bergeron shouldnt be relegated to a FB position. The opinion of Bergeron being better that Brown is only opinon and cant be supported by fact due to Bergeron not getting the same amount of carries, but the games stats are interesting. I stopped at TTU because both players were injured and it was downhill from there.

RICE
Brown-ATT- 16 YRDS-85 AVG-5.3 TD-0
Bergeron- ATT-6 YRDs-24 AVG-4.0 TD-0

BYU
Brown- ATT-14 YRDS-65 AVG-4.6 TD-0
Bergeron- Did not play.

UCLA
Brown- ATT-22 YRDS-110 AVG 5.0 TD-1
Bergeron- ATT-5 YRDS-36 AVG-7.2 TD-0

Iowa State
Brown- ATT-15 YRDS-63 AVG-4.2 TD-0
Bergeron-ATT-4 YRDS-28 AVG-7.0 TD-0

Oklahoma
Brown-ATT-17 YRDS-54 AVG3.2 TD-0
Bergeron ATT-3 YRDS- -3 AVG—1.0 TD-0

Oklahoma st.
Brown-ATT-19 YRDS-135 AVG 7.1 TD-2
Bergeron- Did not play

Kansas
Brown-ATT-28 YRDS-119 AVG-4.3 TD-2
Bergeron- ATT-13 YRDS 136 AVG -10.5 TD-2

Texas Tech
Brown- Did not play
Bergeron- ATT-29 YRDS-191 AVG 6.6 TD-3

Bergeron is ahead of Brown in yards per carry against Iowa st, Kansas,and UCLA. Could the stats be skewed because of the disparity in carriers, sure. They also could show Bergeron does more with less carries. I would of like to have seen Bergeron in all of the games,not only for him to show what he could do, but to take the load off of Brown. I am an advocate of the 3 headed monster next year, but I would rather Brown and Bergeron split the 1st and 2nd down carries 50/50. I dont not want to argue if Bergeron is better than Brown, just like I dont want to argue about the better qb. Everyone will have their opinions about each player, I just can stand seeing folks push Bergeron to the side like he is a second tier player. The guy has skills.

by horninraidercountry on Feb 4, 2012 7:34 PM CST up reply actions  

Thanks

for the readership and the stat breakdown.

I’m still suspicious that Bergeron has padded stats running on tired 4th quarter defenses but he definitely ran well last year.

I’m with you that the guy is a premier talent and harsin’s unwillingness to relegate him to fullback seems like firm evidence that we like him as a runner.

I suspect that we might see him at FB some this year though because it gets him on the field and he’s a great talent. Using him like we used Cody Johnson: blocker, wildcat triggerman, short-yardage, and occasional TB could see him get 10-15 touches per game and 40-60 snaps.

Downside there is we have to teach him to block and expose him to that punishment.

Maybe we use him at FB sporadically and play more Double Tight end formations with him as the TB or on the bench. It shouldn’t be too hard for Harsin to find ways to employ him and Brown on the field at the same time, especially in the option-oriented Wildcat stuff.

by Nickel Rover on Feb 5, 2012 8:02 AM CST up reply actions  

I find myself wishing to see Gray take a direct snap in the pro-T

With Brown and Bergeron in the wingback spots, using their power to provide some blocking or taking the pitch.

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by burntorangehorn on Feb 5, 2012 5:35 PM CST up reply actions  

That is a very interesting thought.

Haven’t seen that proposed before, but it certainly has merit.

by GOP Horn on Feb 5, 2012 7:03 PM CST up reply actions  

Absolutly agree

That would be a nasty formation. It would keep some defensive coordinators up at night for sure

by horninraidercountry on Feb 5, 2012 9:05 PM CST up reply actions  

Stat fail. I will try that again.

Brown-ATT-172 YDS-742 AVG-4.3 LONG-27 TD-5

Bergeron-ATT-72 YDS-463 AVG-6.4 LONG-51 TD-5

by horninraidercountry on Feb 4, 2012 3:45 PM CST reply actions  

Bergeron won't be at FB

But Brown is the better guy I believe and its because of his vision and patience to allow a hole to open up.

Joe runs strong and and hits the hole very hard, which is where you get the burst from, but he isn’t going to make cutbacks or make people miss like Brown will.

by Wongworns on Feb 4, 2012 3:55 PM CST reply actions  

Brown appears to not have change of direction. He runs along the same line. When I speak of burst I mean when Bergeron gets to the second level he shows another gear so I think he shows more potential to break off a bigger run. I say this not as a dig at Brown, he is a fantastic RB. I think Bergeron is a better back, which is not a popular sentiment on this site.

by horninraidercountry on Feb 4, 2012 4:26 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Change of direction??

Please go to youtube and watch Malcolm Brown one on one in space. All of these highlight were before his injury.

by Wongworns on Feb 4, 2012 6:12 PM CST up reply actions  

Compare highlights

Watch highlights from both of them while they are at Texas. Not highschool highlights just the Texas highlights. In my most humble opinion Bergeron shows more shake than Brown. Brown has a little shake that make defenders arm tackle ( which wont bring Brown down), but Bergeron shakes so defenders only catch a small portion of his body. Not including Bergeron in near impossible to tackle period. Brown is also very hard to tackle. I am not advocating a RB debate and I do not want to get into one. Both backs will be fantastic next year, and I hope Gray lives up to the hype.

hook em

by horninraidercountry on Feb 4, 2012 7:46 PM CST up reply actions  

Not a problem

Bergeron has better shake in the open field than Malcolm does. He also has much stronger hips. I think Malcolm has better vision at the LOS, though, and can slip 1-yard loss tackles and turn them into 3-yard gains.

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by GoHornsGo90 on Feb 6, 2012 11:45 AM CST up reply actions  

exactly GoHorns...

Joe is honestly a man among boys…He runs hard as hell, hitting the hole a 100 mph, getting to that second level and making things happen. That said, Malcolm saw way more carries against the fresher 1st half defenses, therefore, the ypc is going to be a little less. I think they’re both great backs to have and the addition of Grey only fills the voids that Malcolm and Joe aren’t as strong at (good hands, and much more of a quick/slasher)…that 3 headed monster is going to be a true joy to watch over these next few years…hook em!

by ACnDaHorns on Feb 6, 2012 1:43 PM CST up reply actions  

This could really be a sick bunch

If Brandon Jacobs had stayed at Auburn, this is kind of how I would’ve expected things to have looked for them. I guess Jacobs was a bit more linebackerish than Bergeron, and Ronnie a bit speedier than Malcolm, but this is quite the stable. If Daje or someone else pans out as an APB/scatback, it could be an embarrassment of riches at the position. I’d just assume it not be squandered like even greater riches were at USC in the post-Bush/White era (5* C.J. Gable, 5* Allen Bradford, 5* Stafon Johnson, 4* Stanley Havili, 4* Emmanuel “Mack Brown curse strikes again” Moody (transferred to Florida), and 4* Kenny Myles in 2006 recruiting class; 5* Joe McKnight, 5* Marc Tyler, and 4* Broderick Green in 2007, 4* D.J. Shoemate (transferred to UConn), 3* Curtis McNeal, and 3* Brian Baucham in 2008; 5* Dillon Baxter, 4* Soma Vainuku, and 4* D.J. Morgan in 2010). Of all their RB recruits from 2006-2010, including six 5* guys, seven 4* guys, and two 3* guys, only two 1000yd. seasons occurred: Joe McKnight with 1014yds./8td in 2009, and Curtis McNeal with 1005yds./6TD in 2011. It just goes to show you can have all kinds of elite talent, but the trick is turning it into a product.

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by burntorangehorn on Feb 6, 2012 2:59 PM CST up reply actions  

No way Wilson can play inside,

He is strictly a speed edge rusher and doesnt have the size or power to play inside. Besides, why would you want him to with the depth we now have at DT and lack of depth at DE.

by LongandHorny on Feb 4, 2012 4:55 PM CST reply actions  

Good point

about the depth but I don’t think the size is an issue in this conference or in passing situations. Check out the Giants tomorrow night, they’ll play 4 DL that all go 6-5, 265 in passing situations. Sam Acho used to play inside at about 260 as well.

by Nickel Rover on Feb 4, 2012 6:18 PM CST up reply actions  

Somewhat deceptive looking players

Canty is well over 300 pounds. JPP is 280. Tuck is 275. But I agree, they all look pretty skinny. Osi is only 255, which strengthens your argument. Surprised he’s not bigger.

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by GoHornsGo90 on Feb 6, 2012 11:47 AM CST up reply actions  

with Manny...

he likes to create confusion along the offensive line by moving DL all over the place. Sometimes, (esp. in passing situations) you won’t see a single guy with his hand in the ground. Reggie could fit into this “confusion” scheme in 3rd and long or against the tx techs. There will def. be times this year when Manny will roll with 4 DE’s in the game at once, hell sometimes 5. Thats what I love about Manny, he thinks outside the box

by ACnDaHorns on Feb 6, 2012 1:47 PM CST up reply actions  

Wilson inside...

If you can remember some of Coach Boom’s blitzes and even Hurricane Manny’s…he will stand up 3 DE’s at any place on the defensive line and raise hell…example is how much alex okafor played inside with Boom. When its 3rd and 9, i could see a front that features, Jeffcoat-MB2-Reggie-Okafor…it could get after the passer…i guess my point is that reggie isn’t going to play over jeffcoat, okafor nor torshiro….but he is talented, and you know manny will have something to use those talents. How awesome is it that we can actually have this conversation about moving guys around the dline (like the Giants) to create pressure….as far as Joe B goes, he’s a tailback, fullback is a completely different animal. just because you’re big doesn’t mean you can play Hback in this offense

by ACnDaHorns on Feb 4, 2012 6:19 PM CST reply actions  

Cobbs

I think Cobbs will end up as an outside linebacker for us. Starter’s minutes would come from playing Will linebacker. He seems like a great candidate to play a hybrid Sam/S role if not for the presence of Vaccaro and the fact that our man-coverages probably wouldn’t hold up as well with a guy like Cobbs on the slot rather than a coverage guy.

Y2K should be the 3rd safety and probably plays starters snaps with all the nickel we’ll deploy. I see him playing a Blake Gideon-role.

Wilson is an injury away from being a starting defensive end.

Monroe will probably be involved in more of the same. It will be easier to use him in the wildcat or Overstreet packages if we don’t suffer injuries to our wildcat triggermen or have to insert Overstreet in as the starting QB.
Lots of talented guys on our team last year had specific packages that were lost when Ash became the starter or Fozzy was injured. So Monroe could play the same role as last year but see his usage go up 50% or so.

I have no opinion on Miles. Our receivers will get their chances this year though.

by Nickel Rover on Feb 4, 2012 6:25 PM CST reply actions  

great take...

Nickel…great stuff man… i agree…i guess I’m riding shotgun on the Miles bandwagon haha…i just think if he’s at Texas, he has ability. With that size, it would be a shame to see that go to waste, especially since we aren’t exactly poring with talent at WR…totally about DJ tho, i just worry if Daje is a better version of DJ…oooooh, the wonders of recruiting haha…hook em

by ACnDaHorns on Feb 4, 2012 6:33 PM CST reply actions  

Daje looks pretty good

he may have similar athletic ability. I wonder if he has the same change of direction (looks like he does), the same toughness, and if he can catch.
The proliferation of guys like Desean Jackson, Maclin, and Percy Harvin made me think that those guys were growing on trees. Apparently crazy fast little guys that can also run routes and catch aren’t as common as we thought.
Or everyone is using them at DB where that level of athleticism is basically a must. Maybe having a percy harvin is a luxury but it’s one I would hope Texas can afford.
Go to work with the tennis balls DJ and DJ.

by Nickel Rover on Feb 4, 2012 6:44 PM CST up reply actions  

I think the 3 head RB is interchangeable…i.e…..Brown, Bergeron, Gray could come in on any particular down….albeit I do think Gray gives a little more flexibility on the third and six’s that may need the pass.

by HookemSnookem on Feb 5, 2012 11:25 AM CST reply actions  

My thoughts...

Wilson will be situational/depth. JJ and Okafor pretty much are the best DE duo in the conference. If they stay healthy, Wilson will get some rep time at SDE. However, I think with the addition of Torshiro Davis, that could change his playing time. That depends on what Davis does coming into school.

JB will stay at RB. We will likely see a healthy rotation between him and MB. JG will be situational and Wildcat most likely. However, don’t be surprised to see some form of a 3 RB set. I shall call this the “scrambler” because the defense will have a very hard time adjusting assignments and figuring out the direction of the play. Should be fun to watch. I think both JB and MB are better at certain things compared to each other. MB has better vision and more ability to make people miss. JB has more power and is able to hit the hole with a full head of steam. Both are great RBs.

Cobbs will start at LB next season. The starting rotation will likely be Hicks, Edmond, Cobbs. He is extremely fast and instinctive. Perfect speed and frame for WLB but loves to hit as well. Didn’t get to see much about his coverage skills but I bet Diaz has him ready. I’m excited to see where these LBs place themselves this season.

Monroe, I have no idea. Especially now that we have Daje. I’ve heard numerous times that Monroe’s problem is his work ethic. Is that true? I have no idea but something is wrong. I think he will have a rotation spot with Daje next season. About the same as always.

Miles is an interesting player. Great size. He saw limited action but I noticed he is a good blocker. Harris is developing into the guy for Ash and is an excellent blocker. I think we see Miles rotated in replacing Shipley for running situations mostly. Miles with Harris make for a good blocking tandem.

Thompson will likely get rotation time at FS. I think he stays behind Phillips but adds depth for now. Our safety depth is really amazing. KV, Evans, Phillips, Thompson. That doesn’t even include the 2012 class guys who could have an impact. I think we might see him get some rotation action this year. How much? We shall see…

by STLaw on Feb 5, 2012 1:15 PM CST reply actions  

My question is

what will we do with Mike Davis?Is he the number two wideout or has he lost his starting job.

Seems like Goodwin was our next best reciever after Shipley.

by TCB Orange Dino on Feb 5, 2012 5:46 PM CST reply actions  

I think it is more on Davis than anybody.

If he keeps a bad attitude then I would imagine he would drop on the depth chart considerably. I think if he refocuses he could be a top guy again. He controls his own destiny.

by horninraidercountry on Feb 5, 2012 9:07 PM CST up reply actions  

Davis is really the #1 wideout, no?

Definitely can’t say he wasn’t a big disappointment, but he’s still ahead of the others. Shipley may very well eclipse him, but although his numbers might’ve been better than Davis’ had it not been for injuries, I still think Davis is still the top receiver in terms of where a QB’s progressions go.

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by burntorangehorn on Feb 5, 2012 10:34 PM CST up reply actions  

From the sound of things

Harris might be taking that spot. For me, I truly hope Davis turns it on because his freshman year was great (despite others lacking elsewhere). He has the tools, just needs to get his head back in the game.

by STLaw on Feb 6, 2012 12:38 AM CST up reply actions  

He is number one at this point

I think Goodwin was catching fire towards the end of the season, but no one has really done anything to takes Davis’ spot. That could change very quickly with a healthy Ship and Harris coming back, Goodwin focusing on football, and the infusion of talent with this class. It should be interesting to see who steps up in the off season

by horninraidercountry on Feb 6, 2012 6:58 AM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Goodwin?

I disagree, the guy is a #3 or #4 WR – at best.

If he is a #2 WR – then we are screwed. He dropped as many passes as Davis did – in less attempts.

Goodwin = Gideon on the offensive side of the ball. How this guy hasn’t been relegated to a KR/Slot WR is beyond me.

by chupita on Feb 6, 2012 9:47 PM CST up reply actions  

So to be clear, Goodwin isn't very good, but D.J. Monroe is?

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by burntorangehorn on Feb 7, 2012 5:43 PM CST up reply actions  

He is, for now...

Davis knows the offense and has played in it (injury free) for an entire season. I think that gives him a slight edge over any of the fish and Harris for now. Key phrase, “for now”. Shipley will never be the “#1” guy because his skill set is going to be one in which is best for slot. Id like to see Cayleb step in there at the #1 as soon as he can. He catches the ball away from his body with his hands, high points the ball in air and obviously has the size to dominate college corners. Davis has shown the ability to get behind the coverage (we just can’t get him the ball for some reason).
As far as Goodwin goes, he is a true threat to do so many things when he is on the field (sweeps, drags, screens and deep balls), I can’t see him not being the #2 guy all year next season. If you think back to the Bama game in ‘09, Goodwin realllllllly bailed GG out with his abilities in the screen passing game. D Co’s fear this with him on the field, so I can’t ever see him not being out there in that #2 spot

by ACnDaHorns on Feb 6, 2012 8:53 AM CST reply actions  

I think the slot doesn't make any difference in whether a guy is #1 or not

Except in video games.

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by burntorangehorn on Feb 6, 2012 9:20 AM CST up reply actions  

hahaha, madden...

love me some madden…i don’t think texas offense is set up with harsin where there is a guy that will be Calvin/Andre Johnson but rather more a systematic type attack, more along the lines of the Saints where there is no “one” guy that is generally a primary route. Watching Boise, they really spread the ball around a lot, so hopefully when we find a quarterback that is capable, we can do the same things.

by ACnDaHorns on Feb 6, 2012 9:34 AM CST reply actions  

Good question OP

Wilson: Will likely begin spring camp as a starter, since JJ had surgery. If he doesn’t start producing, his spot is going to go to Reed, who flashed in minimal playing time last year and can hold the line (Toto!) better with long arms and more natural strength. I think we’ll see the Wilson that spelled JJ in the A&M game instead of the one who was invisible the next week in Waco.

Bergeron: Start off at #2 on the RB depth chart. Will likely split time at FB with Roberson. As I’ve said many times, I’d love to see Texas go to the A&M strategy of having one of the two bigger halfbacks (Brown/Bergeron, preferably the latter) as a FB in a lot of the two-back sets. As has been opined many times on this site by various posters, why not give the defense something else to think about at the FB position than just an average blocker? It adds another level to your offense, confuses the defense, allows you to take from a glut and give to a scarcity (RB to FB), and augments the overall offensive talent on the field.

Cobbs: Will start at OLB (likely Sam) and will give us a lot of the looks KV did with more strength, better pass-rushing ability, and more versatility. Cobbs is excellent in coverage and, as seen in the bowl game, still possesses fantastic speed for a LB. He should be able to cover a lot of slot receivers, much like Drew Kelson did in his day.

Monroe: This one is hard for me. I feel like Gray and Quise are rendering Monroe’s role unnecessary if he’s refusing to get in the weight and film rooms. I’ve always loved D.J.’s gamebreaking ability, but he needs to put it together off the field if he expects to not have his role divided up between Gray, Quise, and potentially Daje/Sanders.

Onyay: I’m one of the few who would like to see Miles make the transition to TE. He has an good frame to pack weight onto and would see his athleticism-for-position go from subpar to upper echelon relatively quickly. Great and willing blocker and good pass-catcher, but no real post-catch moves it seems.

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by GoHornsGo90 on Feb 6, 2012 12:33 PM CST reply actions  

Forgot Mykkele

Thing he’ll get a lot of run along with Sheroid at the nickel S spot and the dime. Will likely still be a big contributor on special teams. He and Evans bring such great speed and fluidity in the defensive backfield that I think both could eventually play a hybrid S/CB role.

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by GoHornsGo90 on Feb 6, 2012 12:35 PM CST up reply actions  

In our conference

we need 5 DB’s who are starter worthy. I think Mykelle joins that list with Phillips, Vaccaro, Byndom, and Diggs.

by Nickel Rover on Feb 6, 2012 2:01 PM CST up reply actions  

Think we'll have 6

With Sheroid.

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by GoHornsGo90 on Feb 6, 2012 4:04 PM CST up reply actions  

Turner's not doing anything for you?

I actually really liked what I saw of Scott, Turner, and White coming out of HS, and had really hoped they’d develop. White seemed like he had some pretty good pure cover skills, at least. Anyway, there’s plenty of talented depth there that could turn out to be starting-quality as well.

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by burntorangehorn on Feb 6, 2012 4:30 PM CST up reply actions  

I still get that "what-if" feeling whenever I see Kelson's name

Dude really made up for any disappointment in other parts of his career when he took on Reggie Bush, though. That was awesome.

Anyway, interesting about Cobbs. I would’ve thought of him as more of a will, due to size, coverage, and range. Hicks obviously has nice range and coverage as well, but he’s bigger and seems like more what I’m accustomed to seeing in a sam. That is, if I were putting the Texas trio into the roles of the Baltimore Ravens’ corps in the late-90’s and their Super Bowl year, Cobbs would be Sharper (will), Hicks would be Boulware (sam), and Edmond would be Lewis.

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by burntorangehorn on Feb 6, 2012 2:08 PM CST up reply actions  

I had questioned that about Onyegbule a couple of weeks ago as well

I think his size lends itself to growing into the position pretty easily. He’s a strong guy with that kind of athleticism, too. Bill didn’t seem to think he’d play it, except maybe a little flex, but I’m sitting very slightly on the TE side of the fence on this one. What would deter me is that I don’t think WR is a strong enough corps at this point to start drawing away talented bodies for other positions, although TE isn’t exactly steeped in star performers right now either. But if the intent is to more or less replicate the weaponization Harsin had at BSU, then TE isn’t really a high-priority position. The four best TE receiving seasons while Harsin was either TE coach or OC there were 15/284/2, 17/177/1, and 29/276/4 by Derek Schouman (2004-2006) and then Efaw at 17/262/0, 31/444/1, and 24/299/5 (2008-2010). I have no doubt it’d be better to have a TE who can be a dangerous weapon as a receiver, not just a good blocker, but I tend to think that the receiving role is still pretty limited for the position. Of course Harsin can certainly adjust his philosophy a bit if he has that better weapon, too, which is not a lost point.

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by burntorangehorn on Feb 6, 2012 3:20 PM CST up reply actions  

*note: I meant to take out the "four" in "four best TE receiving seasons"

I realize those were six seasons. Anyway, D.J Grant had 16/180/3 in his first season seeing the field, so I think he might fit the bill in the receiving dept., but naturally there’s more to the position than that. Could Onyegbule do better as a receiver, in pass-pro, or run-blocking? I’m not sure, but unless he’s not looking like he’ll be on the two-deep at receiver, I’m thinking the move to TE might not be the way to go. I’d hope McFarland would be the man there, along with Poehlmann as the EBS^2.

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by burntorangehorn on Feb 6, 2012 3:25 PM CST up reply actions  

GoHornsGo...

Love that you see that in Miles. Ive thought the same thing recently. Now that we aren’t as thin at WR, lets use that “take from glut and give to scarcity” philosophy with Miles. One thing you can’t teach is size, and Milo has got it. Plus, like you said GoHorns, he could improve his stock with the NFL by doing so…Jermicheal Finley part 2??? we can only hope…

by ACnDaHorns on Feb 6, 2012 1:54 PM CST reply actions  

If you want to reply to a specific post, you can click on the word "reply" at the end of the object of your response

That’ll post it directly below it, so people can see you’re replying to that post in particular.

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by burntorangehorn on Feb 6, 2012 3:00 PM CST up reply actions  

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by burntorangehorn on Feb 6, 2012 6:00 PM CST up reply actions  

Wilson

No way this guy plays inside… A.) He’s not big enough to move inside, and B.) We have absolutely no depth at DE.

He will play significant minutes at DE, and then start next year as a senior when Okafor graduates.

by chupita on Feb 6, 2012 9:40 PM CST reply actions  

yes but...

when it is 3rd down and 9, you don’t always need tackles in the game against the run. you can bring in more athletic down linemen to stunt and cause confusion. Im not in anyway endorsing him as a DT

by ACnDaHorns on Feb 6, 2012 10:27 PM CST up reply actions  

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