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Longhorn PTI, Week 2

It's Monday, which means another edition of Longhorn PTI. With only the baseball team in action (thanks, Rick), we'll go outside the `Horns a bit for some of the discussion.

This is Texas, of course, which means it's -always- football season. So, thoughts on the Spring Game?

PB: Sergio Kindle needs to be careful. McCoy vs Snead is going to be interesting, but less because of who they are than for how Mack handles them. I'll be particularly interested if it turns out that Snead is clearly the better option. Will Mack Brown have the wisdom and balls to go with him exclusively? I doubt it, but what do I know? I agree with EyesOfBevo, who commented that this will be Chizik's big year. I expect the defense to be -better- than it was last year. Oh, and one final thought: you can already hear the Jordan Shipley bandwagon train coming. The guy has a better than even chance of never making a catch and going down as 5,000+ Texas' fans favorite football player ever.

AW:I was only able to watch some of the game, so take these comments with a grain of salt. Snead looks to me like the player with more potential and should start in the fall. Unfortunately, Mack is not terribly decisive and I see us destined for a Simms/Applewhite fiasco again.

Jordan Shipley will never be a star at Texas. In fact, I am officially leading the bandwagon going the other way. Shipley is barely 6' and white. He has speed but not the strength to be a Roy Williams or even BJ Johnson. Nate Jones and Billy Pittman will be the go to guys at wideout along with Finley at tight end. Shipley will have a nice view from the sidelines.

PB: Texas fans -love- white guys at skill positions. I can still hear that crotchety old lady that sat behind me at Texas games growing up. "Put in Brandy Perriman!" she would scream the entire time. God I hated her.

Care to add anything to your thoughts on Rick Barnes and a potential move to NC State?

AW:As we both know, I like Barnes more than you do. Second, there is no way he is going anywhere. Barnes will be here for the next five years at least. If Tucker and Gibson return, we will be pre season top 5 and favorites to make it back to Atlanta for the Final Four. You do not leave a team on the rise for a team with little chance to compete even in its league. Barnes stays, 99.9%.

PB: I agree, he's staying. And though I -do- insist that we criticize Rick for his shortcomings, I think my objections get overstated at times because I get frustrated by so many Texas fans' apathy toward hoops. Anyway, there's no way he leaves Austin for anything like NC State. It would take a job at UNC to lure him away, and Roy Williams isn't going anywhere.

The baseball team took two of three from Oklahoma, swept Oklahoma State, recently took two from Rice, and appears to be on track as we head toward the stretch run of the Big 12. Your thoughts?

PB:I absolutely -am- thrilled about baseball. The major league season is under way, with about a dozen games today! My fantasy team is stocked with live young arms (just the way I like it) and my boy Barry Bonds is having a great spring (on the field, anyway). Oh, Texas? It's not June yet, is it?

AW:I am absolutely -not- thrilled about baseball at any level. I will have a fantasy Master's foursome before I have a fantasy baseball team. Oh wait, it's Master's week here at BON. Full coverage coming later this week. But back to baseball, from what I here from sports radio, this team is starting to get it all together and are poised to for another trip to Omaha.

PB: That deserves a response. I'm glad you pointed out that it's Master's week. Is there any greater sporting event? I'm not sure there is. Toughest ticket in all of sports, my friend.

After two of the worst national semifinals in the history of college hoops, what are you expecting tonight?

AW:I expect a classic. Florida and UCLA are both loaded with talent. Afflalo and Farmer present a formidable backcourt for the Bruins. They have also excelled on defense, especially in the tournament. The Gators have cruised through most of their first five games lead by Noah, Green, and Brewer. I think Corey Brewer is the difference in this one. He slashes for 20+ from his wing spot and the Gators survive, 65-64.

PB: Is it a classic if no one scores 70 points? I'm worried that the brutish defenses are going to dominate this match, which will -not- make for a classic, if you ask me. If this resembles a typical Oklahoma versus Nebraska deathmatch (football or basketball), it's not going to be fun. I'm with you, though: Florida's going to win. I think they have just enough offensive talent to get by the UCLA defense-first approach.

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will play, because Pittman is hurt

Barnes will not leave, because the food and weather are much better in Austin. Although, the research triangle is pretty cool too.

Baseball is a long season. Wake me when they are in Omaha and on ESPN.

I have no interest in golf and never will. Its genetic or something, because my dad and uncles all hate golf too. Fishing - yes, mountain biking - anytime...golf - no thank you. So far my disinterest has not been a liability to my career and work socializing, so I plan on keeping it that way. Besides, I don't have the time for such an endeavor. I blink and my weekends are over.

Walker, Texas Ranger -- C.D. Parker: And how are you doing, little partner? Lucas Simms: Walker told me I have AIDS.

by EYESofBEVO on Apr 3, 2006 2:25 PM CDT reply actions  

official website of the Shipley haters
i do agree with you that the amount of hype Shipley is getting is beyond what he deserves, but you guys are pushing too hard against him.  so for the sake of parity on this site, i am begrudgingly taking the reins of the Jordan Shipley bandwagon.

we hype up tons of players before they ever hit the field based on their highschool stats, so please stop complaining about him not showing anything yet.  also - his highscool stats are as a gaudy as they come.

i agree that everywhere, not just texas, there is desire to see a white kid make it at a "non-white" position.  however, if Shipley makes it to the field, it will be based on merit.

last - it is not like small fast white guys can't play receiver at this level. they might not usually be wearing texas uniforms but they exist.  (before this season the last receiver to catch a TD against OU - Ryan Nunez - fast white guy).

Crystal Balls

by MMHorns on Apr 3, 2006 3:06 PM CDT reply actions  

My point
My point, to clarify, is not that he -can't- be good. It's that he hasn't done jack shit yet. It'd be one thing if everyone's enthusiasm were tempered, but it's like the guy is already a star. Shouldn't he score a touchdown before he's annointed the Next Great Thing?

They don't, and it's because he's white. Guaranteed. This is not the same thing as saying Texas fans don't embrace black athletes; they do. It's that they loooove the whiteys. That's fine; I'm just holding my praise for Shipley until he does something.

As for Drew, he can speak for himself, but I think he was motivated by the same feeling. High school stats aren't gonna carry this undersized white boy. Let's see him produce first.

PB

by Peter Bean on Apr 3, 2006 5:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

shipley
Jordan Shipley will never be a star at Texas. In fact, I am officially leading the bandwagon going the other way. Shipley is barely 6' and white. He has speed but not the strength to be a Roy Williams or even BJ Johnson. Nate Jones and Billy Pittman will be the go to guys at wideout along with Finley at tight end. Shipley will have a nice view from the sidelines.

Quite possibly the most retarded thing I've read on the internet.

by the other Andrew on Apr 3, 2006 3:07 PM CDT reply actions  

Thanks for the comment.
Have you spent much time on the internet? I bet you can find something more 'retarded' if you give yourself a minute or two.

--AW--

by awiggo on Apr 3, 2006 3:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

Don't quite follow
"Unfortunately, Mack is not terribly decisive and I see us destined for a Simms/Applewhite fiasco again."

Other than the comment above, I reluctantly agree with pretty much everything else.  I say reluctantly because I won't dis Jordan like you do, but do say he needs to prove he can play before we give him any accolades.

As for the comment above, the difference between Simms/Applewhite and this, is that Applewhite was solidly in the hearts of all Texas fans and should have kept the reigns until he wasn't performing.  Simms was given the reigns because of his pedigree only.  He showed talent in high school, like these two kids, but didn't do much for the program while here.  

For my .02, they are on equal ground, therefore should both be given a shot to take firm control of the team.  I don't think we should run a two QB system, but let them duke it out for now.  

I don't think this situation can realistically compare to Simms/Applewhite, though.

by GoHorns on Apr 3, 2006 3:19 PM CDT reply actions  

Similar but Different
The comment about Simms/Applewhite wasn't meant to be a perfect comparison. You are right, the situation is very different. It simply evoked a time when Mack couldn't decide between two QBs. I really want Mack to choose one and go with him until a change clearly needs to be made.

Thanks for the comments.

--AW--

by awiggo on Apr 3, 2006 3:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

Two-headed monsters
It is less like Simms/Applewhite (since either one or the other started and played the whole game for the most part) and more like the delicate rotations Tennessee, Florida, Ohio State, and a handful of other talented teams have shot themselves in the foot with.  I don't care if we pick the second best QB we have, after the N.Texas game, pick one and play him for the sake of consistency and the other 10 guys out there on the field.

by Lincoln on Apr 3, 2006 3:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

Who Mack should learn from
Mark Reict - Georgia

He had David Greene playing lights out for 4 years with DJ Shockley in the wings.  He could have pulled Greene and played shockley and the team probably wouldn't suffer, but stuck with Greene and was rewarded with probably the greatest 4 year run a QB has ever had.

by GoHorns on Apr 3, 2006 4:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

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