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Editorial: Renewing the Cotton Bowl

As many of you probably know already, Texas and OU administrators began playing hardball with Dallas city officials over the Cotton Bowl. The current deal is set to expire in 2008, and threats of the two teams moving to a home and home series have the city officials scrambling to work a new deal.

Texas and Oklahoma want the old, rotting Cotton Bowl to be expanded and remodeled, while Dallas officials say they will promise nothing until both sides sign to another long-term extension.

Frankly, Dallas needs us more than we need Dallas, so I don't think we should sign anything until they do their part to show a commitment to improving the site. Yesterday, however, University of Oklahoma regents authorized their athletic director to begin negotiating an extension.

Texas has yet to do so, and I hope they don't. While I'd like to see the game remain in Dallas, the city needs to do something on its own end to show it deserves the game. These teams have played in Dallas since 1929 and it would be a shame to lose that, but we're holding the cards here. Texas should wait.

--PB--

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Move it to Irving
Texas Stadium makes so much more sense. I am not sure of the seating diff. but access has to be better than the fairgrounds? Plus the Cowboys are moving to Arlington.
I beat Wells in pool!!!

by AdamDC on Jan 26, 2006 10:15 AM CST   0 recs

The Cotton Bowl will never be the site we want
They missed their chance when they decided not to pay up for the Cowboys.
Irving will not happen, although it would be a good spot.  The game will probably become a home and away, and we will have to start playing TCU or SMU home and away to apease the Dallas area alumni.  Freedom Dip will go off on that schedule, Rice or Houston and TCU or SMU.

by Wells on Jan 26, 2006 10:30 AM CST   0 recs

41-38
Would take on a whole new meaning if we played the Ponies. 41 Points in 38 Seconds.
I beat Wells in pool!!!

by AdamDC on Jan 26, 2006 10:35 AM CST   0 recs

Cotton Bowl
I'd love to see them continue at the CB, but not to the detriment of the rivalry.  If Mayor Hitler doesn't really amp the place up, move.  I'd love to see the game in Arlington but doubt that it would happen.  I wouldn't be opposed to a home and home, but it would definitely lose some of it's luster.  Part of what makes the rivalry great, IMO, is the half and half stadium.  That, and I fear what those stupid fans would do to the players in Norman.  They've never been accused of being classy.

by GoHorns on Jan 26, 2006 10:39 AM CST   0 recs

Home and home
Nothing lasts forever. Bringing OU to Austin every other year would do nothing but generate tons of revenue for the University. In fact, I think that would clinch, if the national title didn't already, the approval of about 15 to 20 thousand more seats at DKR.

by Eric on Jan 26, 2006 11:17 AM CST   0 recs

Cheddar
That's exactly it - can we even fathom how much revenue that game brings into Dallas EVERY SINGLE YEAR?!  A guaranteed sellout game (65,000+), hotels, boozing, eating out - Dallas makes millions every year off Texas and OU fans traveling into town.  I think both universities are interested in selling out their OWN stadiums, rivalry be damned.  

It'll still be a great rivalry, and there are appealing aspects to a home-and-home setup, but nothing will ever match the history and tradition of playing at the Cotton Bowl.

Oh - and I wanted to point out that, amidst the jubilation brought on by the incredible Rose Bowl victory, we must NOT forget that OU STILL SUCKS!!!

by Broccoli on Jan 26, 2006 11:26 AM CST to parent up   0 recs

Queen Miller screwed that pooch
I'll avoid the Hitler reference (Miller converted to Judaism I hear for her husband) but the sentiment (dislike for her and her approach) is similar.

She's such a glass half empty b--ch.  Instead of (glass half full concept) getting Jerry Jones to "subsidize" the City of Dallas and pay half the costs of rebuilding the Cotton Bowl (one of Dallas' few core assets), she refused to "subsidize" Jerry Jones (glass half empty), which Arlington is more than happy to do.

Now she wants the Dallas citizens to include in a bond package $50 million to "upgrade" the dump (add upper decks to both end zones and replace the chairs with benchs/bench backs) to get to 90,000+ seats.  Plus how many porto-potties can you buy for $50 million dollar (the presumed restroom expansion).

It'd be nice (I'm not a fan of either program) to keep the game but as a Dallas resident, who could blame UTx or OU from telling the city go screw the pooch (you're sloppy seconds after Queen Miller).

by TennVolChamp on Jan 26, 2006 5:00 PM CST   0 recs

F [orget] Dallas
Let 'em play home and home in Norman and Austin. The schools don't need Dallas. Dallas needs them. The mayor screwed up royally when she couldn't get the ball rolling on a new stadium in Fair Park. It would have been great to have the Cowboys in Dallas as well as a great new stadium that could continue to host OU-Texas and the Cotton Bowl and help rejuvenate that part of town.

Think of what home and home could do. Let's say Texas is No. 1 rolling into Norman, which has a top 10 OU team. Or vice versa, with a top-ranked OU team going to Austin to face a top-10 Horns team. It would have potential upset all over it as well as electric home atmosphere for this game.

Who needs a split-crowd stadium? How much polish can you put on a terd that's otherwise known as the Cotton Bowl. Why should fans have to continue to deal with the poverty-stricken locals who live in Fair Park and want to park your car in their yard. That part of town isn't going to get any better no matter how much you fix up the box suites and bathrooms. And let's say OU and Texas go home and home. Imagine this: In 2010, the new stadium in Arlington gets the Cotton Bowl (with potential BCS ramifications) and Dallas loses its bowl. Meanwhile, Michael Dell helps sponsor the first Hill Country Bowl after Texas has built even more seats onto their stadium. Austin could surely handle a bowl game.

Furthermore, this mayor has screwed up way more than the bowl situation. I would love to see Texas and OU agree to home and home. It could be the final nail in the coffin on this mayor's legacy.

"Oh, no! Some non-Aggie fans" -- Robert Earl Keen

by FreedomDip on Jan 26, 2006 6:25 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

time marches on.....
I don't live in the Metroplex, and haven't followed the local politics at all.  I also don't much care for municipalities building great venues for sports team owners who want their teams to be a civic enterprise only and as long as it benefits them, but want it to be their own private enterprise when that suits them better...  I wish cities that built stadiums out of public moneys could attach a rider that they would have right of first refusal if and when the owner decided to sell his "civic enterprise" team...

All that aside though, it sure does seem like the mayor screwed up big-time.  That part of the city could sure use a boost, and a venue like the revamped Cotton Bowl, with all the ancillary enterprises, could help do that.  And a previous poster's opinions notwithstanding, a venue like that can help out.  Just check out Baltimore's Inner Harbor and SF's South of Market areas after their baseball stadiums were built.  The trick is, it can be a piece of the solution, but not the entire solution.  To not even try it as a piece though, seems awfully short-sighted, to say the least.

I loved the Texas-OU game at the Cotton Bowl. I still think this is the best rivalry game in all of sports.  The split stadium, the party weekend out of town for both schools, the whole state fair background. If that can't be salvaged, then I would prefer a home-and-home rather than a move to Arlington or Irving.  You're not going to recapture the magic by just making a game up close by...

by agent orange on Jan 27, 2006 12:29 PM CST   0 recs

best rivalry?
If I could attend just one rivalry game and no others, I would choose the Army-Navy football game. That may be the best rivalry.
"Excuse me while I whip this out."

by FreedomDip on Jan 27, 2006 7:03 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

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