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PJ Tucker, TJ Ford on the Horns Football Team

Great blog item from the Washington Post's Dan Steinberg with the two former Texas stars touting  Mack Brown's Longhorns. The best part of the interview comes when Tucker shuts up Fred Jones (former Oregon Duck):

Tucker: What's Oregon [ranked]? What are they?

Steinberg: 20th I think, something like that? [Actually 18th]

Tucker: They were undefeated [prior to losing to Cal]. And they were ranked, what, 15th? [Actually 11th] We have a loss and we're ranked sixth. What do you think that says about the programs? What do you think?

Anyway, it's a fun lunchtime read. And Mr. Steinberg, consider your mission accomplished.

--PB--

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Dan Steinberg
is his name, I believe.  Or is there an inside joke I'm missing?

by Kahuna on Oct 11, 2006 1:03 PM CDT reply actions  

Ha
I used to live in D.C.

I typed Dan Sneider - owner of Redskins - inadvertently. Perhaps because Steinberg is a WashPost guy.

by Peter Bean on Oct 11, 2006 2:13 PM CDT reply actions  

Mostly it says...
...that Texas won the national championship last year.  And that the 'Horns are a perennial 10-win, top-10 or top-5 team.  

It also says the the pollsters were suspect of the Ducks' win over Oklahoma, and that the pollsters correctly anticipated the possiblity of a loss to Cal.

It also says that by whatever margin, Texas' loss happened to be to the near-consensus #1 team.

Not sure it says much more than that...

by Calfan on Oct 11, 2006 2:17 PM CDT reply actions  

Agree
Wasn't meant to be seriously debated, truth be told. Just a fun item for posting, and a hat tip to Mr. Steinberg for going out of his way to serenade us - he wanted to be linked onto a Texas blog. His email was funny. We went for it.

Plus we love PJ Tucker and TJ Ford.

by Peter Bean on Oct 11, 2006 2:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

TJ Ford or Vince Young
Who had a bigger impact on their respective programs?
Cats and dogs sleeping together.

by EYESofBEVO on Oct 11, 2006 3:25 PM CDT reply actions  

TJ
Vince took an already fantastic team with a lot of history and gave it the identity it needed to be a champion.  TJ pretty much singlehandedly turned this basketball program into a national player.  When he signed, it was a signal that Texas was a possible destination for top recruits.  When he took the team to the Final 4, that was it.  It meant you could win at Texas.  And the athletic department responded by building tons of new facilities, which resulted in better recruiting.

When you think of who built the Texas football program, you think DKR.  In the future, when you think who built the Texas basketball program, my bet is you're going to think Rick Barnes and TJ.

by billyzane on Oct 11, 2006 3:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

TJ Ford was bigger, definetly
UT basketball wasn't even on the map outside the state of Texas in terms of recruiting, for the most part, until TJ decided to come play here.  We would have never landed LaMarcus and Kevin Durant if TJ hadn't come here first.  And he gave fans a taste of the Final Four, which has left us hungry for more. And there's no discounting the fact that he managed to fill up the Erwin Center, at a supposedly "football school".

That's no knock on VY.  He was probably the most talented athlete to set foot on the 40 Acres.  But his arrival here hasn't had the lasting impact that TJ's did.  Texas was already among the elite in the sport before his arrival.  He just took us that extra few miles to the Promised Land.

Real men DO watch volleyball

by patienthornsfan on Oct 11, 2006 3:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

in addition
how bout what Cat Osterman did for the softball program?  (even though the championship eluded her)
...til Gabriel blows his horn

by BigTexBD on Oct 11, 2006 10:31 PM CDT reply actions  

It remains to be seen...
... whether Cat's brilliance leads to a recruiting bonanza and years of top-5 teams.  Coach Clark has yet to land another marquee player, so the jury's still out.

Remember, when Cat was off playing at the Olympics, the team was 24-25 and finished 8th in the Big XII.

Real men DO watch volleyball

by patienthornsfan on Oct 12, 2006 7:53 AM CDT up reply actions  

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