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Texas Basketball Report 2.1

I ran these on Wednesdays last year but haven't yet decided when they'll regularly feature this time around. We'll start on a Friday and see where it goes.

We're only six games in to the 2007-08 season, but along with all the effusive praise (it has been a great start) have been some easily identifiable weaknesses, as Rick Barnes' club faces some of the same obstacles which ultimately proved fatal last season:

(1) What to do against big, physical teams with imposing frontcourts?
(2) Is there a solution to the abysmal three point defense?

The 2006-07 Longhorns ran, ran, and ran some more, riding the Augustin-Durant fastbreak offense as far as it would take them. Unfortunately, last year that meant a second round NCAA Tournament exit when Texas got matched up against a USC team that worked the 'Horns in the paint while disrupting Texas' offensive attack with physical defense on our undersized guards.

As mentioned, though this year's team has handled its business exceptionally well through six games, many of the same concerns remain. The Longhorns easily dispatched of Tennessee to win the Legends Classic, but the Volunteers are a guard-oriented team that sinks and swims with its full-court press and perimeter shooting. This year's Texas squad simply hasn't faced a team that could test the Longhorns in the frontcourt.

Hello, UCLA. The Bruins starting five is as physically an imposing group as Texas is likely to face this year:

F Alfred Aboya, 6-8 / 235
F Luc Richard Mbah a Moute, 6-8 / 230
C Kevin Love, 6-10 / 260
G Russell Westbrook, 6-3 / 187
G Darren Collison, 6-1 / 165

Key reserves? How about Josh Shipp (6-5 / 220) and Lorenzo Mata-Real (6-9 / 240).

Compare that to Rick Barnes' preferred starting five:

F Connor Atchley, 6-10 / 226
F Damion James, 6-7 / 230
G AJ Abrams, 5-11 / 155
G DJ Augustin 5-11 / 180
G Justin Mason 6-2 / 198

Now consider that Connor Atchley is a far cry from an inside presence, while Damion James is far more leaper than banger, and the problem is obvious. Worried about this very issue, astute commentator Kafka asked about the relative strengths and weaknesses of Texas' reserve big men.

Matt Hill, 6-10 / 243 - Out injured for now, and a long way from being ready to bang even when healthy.

Alexis Wangmene, 6-7 / 241 - He's not incredibly tall, but he is lonnnnng, with arms that go forever. More than that, he's not by any means gangly. The kid's built solid. He's still relatively raw with his basketball skills, but he's a damn useful body to have for a game like Sunday's against UCLA.

Clint Chapman, 6-10 / 245 - Chappy has nice size, nice hands, nice touch, nice mobility. He's just got a nice little skill set, especially for being a freshman. What he is not yet, though, is an inside presence. Division 1 college basketball banging is still going to overwhelm him at times.

Dexter Pittman, 6-10 / 299 - He is tall. He is thick. He has terrific hands for a man his size. He moves everything in his path. And that therein lies the problem... he's not yet added any polish to his considerable skill set/body type.

What to do against UCLA, then? Fortunately, the Bruins have been terrible from beyond the three point line this season, hitting just 33% of their attempts. At the least, that should give Rick Barnes some confidence in the strategy of packing in a zone, conceding the long jumper, and trying a swarming, inside approach to defending the Bruins' interior game. If UCLA isn't shooting well from outside, Barnes can also get away with playing his two sub-6'0" guards with impunity.

There remains the issue of rebounding, where UCLA absolutely cleans house, snatching a good 40% of their own misses for second looks. That's a scary number for Texas, which ranks a cool 243rd in the nation in disallowing opponents from grabbing offensive rebounds. Zone defense, advantageous as it is in other regards, makes for poor defensive rebounding. Equally worrisome is that if Rick does commit to cleaning the defensive glass, he's taking away Texas' greatest strength - its transition offense.

It's a "damned if you do, damned if you don't" situation for Rick right now, and there's no clear answer as to what Texas should do. (As mentioned at the beginning of this report, if this sounds familiar - it should.) Going to a Jumbo lineup puts Texas into a half court game with a team that's far, far better suited to win it than we are. Sticking with our lineup of run-n-gunners leaves us vulnerable to poor rebounding and easy outside jump shots.

Is there any good news? Sure. Rick's in year two of this run-n-gun system and has a better feel for what his kids can and can't do, where we're vulnerable, and how to manage a gameplan with this kind of team. To be perfectly honest, my instinct is to suggest Rick Barnes orchestrate a balanced, solid, keep-things-close first half before seeing if UCLA is ready to run with us for the final 20 minutes. I think I'd be more generous with my big man play early, play at UCLA's pace for a while, and work through the first half of the game. I'd rest DJ where it was at all possible, sit Abrams immediately if he's being smothered on the perimeter, and focus on not letting UCLA get the best of us with their size and physical play. Then I'd open things up in the second half, run, gun, and see if the Bruins could keep up.

No easy answers, but it should be fun to see Texas face such a stiff test early in the season. If nothing else, we'll have a better feel for how this team needs to play this kind of opponent.

--PB--

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A&M actually has a fairly formidable front court

DeAndre Jordan 7'0
Donald Sloan   6'3  
Dominique Kirk 6'4
Jason Carter   6'7
Joseph Jones   6'9

Bench:
Brian Davis    6'9
Junior Elonu   6'10
Denzel Bowles  6'11

I think it will be our advantage when we play you.

I have a question about Dexter Pittman: This is his second year at texas. Why isn't he in shape to run the floor, if that is what Barnes wants?
I can understand him being out of shape when he came in as a freshman, but by now, he should be firmly integrated into the S&C program, and should be in shape.
Did he have an injury or something that prohibited him from excercising in the off-season?

by Beergut on Nov 30, 2007 4:58 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

He's not out of shape

He's a big, big, BIG man. Even after shedding 70 pounds. The issue isn't whether he's in shape, it's whether he can run up and down in a fast-paced game - no one his size really could. As said above, he's needing polish now.

As for A&M's size, it's formidable, but not nearly as physical as UCLA. Still a big height advantage over Texas - for sure - but totally different from UCLA.

--PB--

by Peter Bean on Nov 30, 2007 6:42 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

if you think A&M's post players aren't

 physical, you haven't been watching us play (no crime there, I think I've seen texas on television once this season).

 

by Beergut on Nov 30, 2007 3:43 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Relative

Relative to UCLA. No one is more physical than UCLA. Ben Howland's team is brute strength. Same every year.

Not really a knock on A&M. They're just a notch below UCLA.

--PB--

by Peter Bean on Nov 30, 2007 3:56 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

A&M has the very good frontcourt.

They really are more vulnerable in the back court. The two times I seen part of their games the guards were turning over the ball a lot. Plus there ball handling ability in bringing the ball up the court and getting into the offense was mediocre at best. Back court shooting wasn't any thing to write home about either.

by Xerxes on Dec 2, 2007 12:12 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

The extra inches only matter

if they can move their feet and defend the 3. Something I'm not convinced they'll be able to do.

OSU and Alabama run their offense through big men down low -- and didn't have any perimeter help with scoring. This played to A&M's strengths.
Earlier in the season mid-majors were able to stay within striking distance of A&M with outside shooting and gaurd play, which tells me the Aggies struggle defending the perimeter.

Texas is a much better shooting team than UTEP or Oral Roberts and will be much quicker on the dribble.

The series will probably be split this year.

Cats and dogs sleeping together.

by EYESofBEVO on Nov 30, 2007 9:12 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

unless y'all are planning to run the weave

 which UTEP was killing us with, I'm not too worried. We're not the same type of team, defensively, that we were under BCG. Quite frankly, with the possible exception of Georgetown and Pittsburgh, I don't think any other school in the nation emphasizes the intensity on defense that BCG does.
 I don't expect us to play at the same level of intensity, b/c Turgeon is a little more offensive-minded than BCG was. He's from that Larry Brown-Dean Smith-Roy Williams school of basketball.
 I do agree that we've struggled some defending the perimeter, but I also think that against ORU and UTEP, that was partially b/c we are a team with a new coach, and we're still learning his system on offense and defense.
 What is exciting for us, is that we still play sloppy and look lost at times on the court, but we're still winning games by double digits.
 I think against texas, rebounding will be key, and I think with our depth inside, and our decided height advantage, we definitely have the edge there.

 A plit in the series is very possible. If the calls even out in Austin, though, I like our chances.

by Beergut on Nov 30, 2007 3:51 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Yes

and if they actually call fouls in College Station I like ours.

by Wells on Nov 30, 2007 5:06 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

i haven't gotten a chance

to watch much of the horns yet this year, unfortunately.  have they been working on their pressure defense that they had some success with last year?  it seems that trying to force UCLA into mistakes and making them have to work to get into their half court set, cutting into the shot clock, would be a sound strategy.  if we can beat them with transition points and points off turnovers, that might offset the discrepency on the boards.  and if they have less time to set up on offense, that might mitigate their mismatches inside.

that's what i saw with the Duke/Wisconsin game, although that wasn't quite the same kind of matchup.  Duke never let Wisonsin get in their comfort zone offensively and killed them with 3-point shooting, turnovers, and transition points.  that's what i'm hoping for on Sunday.

of the big men, i think Wangmene will be the most valuable off the bench.  he's just so much more athletic than the others.  i'm not sure we'll want to take the foot off the pedal with DJ, AJ, Mason, and James.  let 'em force the tempo.

can't wait until Sunday night.

by littlevisigoth on Nov 30, 2007 9:27 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

strategy

I tend to agree with you. Let's run at them and see how much pressure we can get on them. We have been doing a lot of back court pressing and trapping so far this season and it has paid off. Collison is still getting back into running the point for UCLA, and Westbrook can handle the ball well, but I am not sure about the rest of the team.

We are so quick and athletic that we can really frustrate a team coming up the court, and we can get out in transition and score easy buckets.

Rebounding is going to be a huge issue, though. We just don't have the presence down low. As PB mentions, UCLA is dominating on the offensive glass. And I have watched Texas give UTSA three consecutive offensive rebounds. If we play zone we HAVE to get a body on their big men.  We need Connor to have career night #3 of the season, great intensity without to many fouls from James, and Wingman/Pittman/Chappy to really contribute solid minutes off the bench.

Maybe the guards can draw some fouls early on Love and Co. and get UCLA playing on their heals.  Getting Love on the bench would sure help a lot, he has excellent technique on both ends of the floor.

by jimmer on Nov 30, 2007 10:04 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Great post

The trick to improving both 3 point D and rebounding in a zone D is to use a match up zone approach.  This makes it much easier to identify the guy you are blocking out.  Rick B is a D master so there will probably be some improvement in those areas as the season progresses.  Augustin will probably do a good job blocking out once Rick B stresses it (I'm not so sure about how well Abrams will do blocking out).  Because both Augustin and Abrams are small it will be tough to abandon the zone.

Kudos to Rick B for scheduling these great games.  Great for the fans and great for the team.

UCLA will probably try to make this a very physical, difficult to referee game.  There is going to be a lot of "contact".  The center position for the horns' D is going to pick up a bunch of fouls.  The horns' young big men are going to have to play a bunch (to absorb fouls, if for no other reason).  Might be a good idea to play Atchley at forward on D rather than center (or he will be gone pretty soon).  If UCLA does not fast break much, play Pittman a bunch.  My guess is that at least two UT big men foul out.

UT really can't go to a jumbo lineup yet but they can go with two guards and replace the 3rd guard with a big man.

The horns should run every chance they can because those are easy points.  With Augustin running the O, the horns are probably going to get their points (I hope).  

The problem for the horns will be on D (especially at the foul prone center position).  If the horns play Chapman, Pittman, and Wingman at center, those guys have 15 fouls to give and can play very aggressive, disruptive D.  Wingman is not so tall but he has some bulk (which is needed to deny position on the blocks).

Should be a fun game.  There is no pressure on the horns because everybody thinks they will lose so they should just go out there and have fun.

by Kafka on Nov 30, 2007 1:43 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

UCLA starters

Key reserves? How about Josh Shipp (6-5 / 220)

Shipp will almost definitely start, probably with Westbrook coming off the bench. (Unless Howland wants to go 3 guards with Mbah a Moute coming of the bench.  Shipp started at the 3 last year in a similar lineup.)

by clydeb on Nov 30, 2007 7:49 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

College basketball

is all about speed and athleticism, particularly with guards. Go ahead A&M, use your "height advantage". We'll run you into the ground.

DeAndre Jordan didn't look too hot against Alabama. He's a horrible FT shooter also. Turgeon called him "immature" and a "pouter".

A&M played us well last year because of Law. This year it's Augustin/Abrams vs Sloan/Kirk. UT wins hands down.

by goingforthecorner on Nov 30, 2007 9:37 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Forget Phoenix Suns

Considering how loaded we are with talent and athletes, but not necessarily with height, maybe we're better off going "Nelly-ball" and emulating the Golden State Warriors.

I had to watch them destroy my Houston Rockets last night. They used a smaller guy (Al Harrington) to front Yao, who's 7'6", and it worked pretty well.

Anyway, what the Warriors do is try to expose as many favorable matchups as possible at a very fast tempo. The fast tempo is because they are loaded with athletes. All 5 players on the court can score and shoot it.

Maybe we could use James to front Love, and then have Connor play behind him. If we can pack the paint and force them to shoot outside jumpers, this could work out for us. We do have the athletes and speed to play Warriors style of ball.

Man, Gary Johnson would be perfect for that type of system...

by goingforthecorner on Nov 30, 2007 10:06 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

In the one UCLA game I have saw...

..last week, I noticed on screens and picks those tall guys with long legs and long strides don't change directions as quickly as short guys with short strides. Makes it hard for them to get around obstacles at the speed of the little guys.

If the Horns can spread the floor some and run high screens the taller guys can't follow, if the try to go under the screen DJ and AJ will have an open look.
It really depends if the Horns can keep UCLA from packing the middle.
Atchley and James need to sink enough out side shots to bring UCLA's big men out.

UCLA has no one as quick as either AJ or DJ and they don't shoot as well. So there are some advantages the horns have, the question is can the Horns use them to  dictate the flow of the game or are they going to get stuck playing UCLA's game.    

by Xerxes on Dec 2, 2007 12:33 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Key

We really do need to spread the floor on offense and see what we can do to win off dribble drives. UCLA's on-ball defense is pretty damn good, though. Will be interesting to see if Collison's knee is ready for Augustin.

--PB--

by Peter Bean on Dec 2, 2007 12:37 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

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