John Chiles A "Suspect" In MLK Blvd Incident
From the Daily Texan sports blog:
Longhorns backup quarterback John Chiles is a suspect in an assault-by-conduct under investigation by the Austin Police Department, according to the department’s pubic information officer.
Though the case is currently under investigation by APD, the department’s PIO did confirm that Chiles is a suspect in the case, which reportedly occurred at 2:45 a.m. on Friday. The police report filed said the alleged assault occurred on Martin Luther King Blvd, though it didn’t say what area of Austin, according to the PIO.
The PIO also said the detective working the case, which is a class C misdemeanor, may not get to the case until next week.
A Longhorn official said the team is aware of the situation but will have no comment unless charges are filed against Chiles.
All I can say on this one is: hold off on passing any judgment here. There was a complaint about a minor incident. John Chiles is alleged to have been there and/or been a part of it. The rest of the details are hazy.
--PB--
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assault by conduct?
translation please? What sort of things fall under assault-by-conduct.
by owenh on
Apr 10, 2008 10:00 PM CDT
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From the Tx Penal Code
These are both Class C misdemeanors, actually causing physical harm (sub (a)(1)) is at least a Class A misdemeanor.
§ 22.01. ASSAULT. (a) A person commits an offense if
the person:
(2) intentionally or knowingly threatens another with
imminent bodily injury, including the person's spouse; or
(3) intentionally or knowingly causes physical
contact with another when the person knows or should reasonably
believe that the other will regard the contact as offensive or
provocative.
For the cops to get involved in an investigation of this, I'd assume that either there was allegedly some fairly threatening language or inappropriate touching.
I'd welcome some input from anybody though, crim is not a focus of mine.
by learned hand on
Apr 11, 2008 6:45 AM CDT
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Coach Rucker
is supposed to be taking care of this sort of stuff, right? Regardless of the "charges," what is he doing on MLK at 2:45 a.m. but getting into trouble? I mean, come on!
by bfaut86 on
Apr 10, 2008 10:20 PM CDT
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No big deal
LOTS of kids are up at 2:45 on a friday night. Me, usually I'm getting whataburger taquitos or Taco C after going out.
In any case, at worse its a misdemeanor, and for that to happen he'd have to be charged and then proven guilty. It's all speculation right now, so as PB said, we can't judge.
by BigTexBD on
Apr 10, 2008 10:51 PM CDT
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correction
*thursday night
by BigTexBD on
Apr 10, 2008 10:57 PM CDT
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re: correction
...you forgot one..it's TC's, not "Taco C"
by vy til i die on
Apr 11, 2008 1:00 AM CDT
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Who the hell calls it TC's???
Maybe I'm showing my age. In my day we called it "Taco C". Nowdays you got these kids running around with their emo and TC's. bah.
by 16thLonghorn on
Apr 11, 2008 10:49 AM CDT
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Agreed
Its always been Taco C with my crowd, I was at UT from 1999-2004.
by BoddickerIsClutch on
Apr 11, 2008 11:06 AM CDT
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re:
EVERYONE in san antonio who goes there after getting drunk, calls it that...and since it was originally from san antonio, i think it should be called that...taco c just sounds weird...it's like calling michael jordan, michael j
by vy til i die on
Apr 11, 2008 12:02 PM CDT
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Agree
Went to UT when the only "TC" in Austin was on Research Blvd (183 it was a road then, not a hwy). Since the only people that were really familiar with it were all from San Antonio and they called it TC, we followed suit. This was very helpful when they split into two companies, Taco Cabana and TaCasita. I think the brothers who split the company obviously were familiar with "TC" as the nickname, as the one chose the same initials. We won't talk about the whole Two Pesos debacle.
by billb on
Apr 13, 2008 10:16 AM CDT
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ditto
Austin High '98 through UT 2004 always 'taco c', and over ninety percent of those trips were made under the influence...
by burntorangenance on
Apr 11, 2008 3:01 PM CDT
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cabana
It's just called Cabana, no? Why the wasted effort with the extra word and syllables.
When I hear someone say wanna go to Cabana after a night of drinking, i know what theyre referring to.
by Blitzburgh on
Apr 11, 2008 4:44 PM CDT
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Cabana
That's what my wife and I call it.
by Bob LaBlog on
Apr 11, 2008 4:48 PM CDT
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Burger Combo from Players?
Other than living on MLK somewhere, I can't see any other reason to be there at 2:45 a.m. Maybe he was walking home from Dobie after catching a midnight showing of hipster indie flick. Maybe Miss Pettigrew Lives for a day?
PB is right, this is not a big deal.
by the1austin on
Apr 10, 2008 10:54 PM CDT
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Might I remind you....
...Taco Cabana is on MLK. 24 hour drive through. I spent many a night waiting in that line.
2:45 on a Friday night is early.
by 16thLonghorn on
Apr 11, 2008 10:45 AM CDT
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Well
I'm sure he didn't throw any objects at anyone....you know.....cause he probably would have missed.....bada bum
by texasauteur on
Apr 11, 2008 12:11 AM CDT
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Peter, I have to say....
....I'm a little disappointed. To refer to (allegedly) slapping a woman, then (allegedly) threatening her and then (allegedly) charging her in a physically threatening manner as "a minor incident" is at best playing the apologist's role. At worst, showing a lack of respect for women.
This from the tipster's e-mail:
On Saturday morning, shortly after midnight, Mr. Chiles riding in the same vehicle as 2 others (2 men and 1 woman) reportedly slapped the young woman. Once the car stopped Chiles made several verbal threats towards her and charged towards her only to be stopped by a fellow teammate.
After all that has gone one in the past year, it is a real disappointment to see 2 of our players out at 2:45 in the morning. I wonder how those morning classes went. Evidently, Ken Rucker hasn't done much of a job in his new position. It's time for somebody (allegedly) to gain control of this team!!
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THREATS
by HornChamps on
Apr 11, 2008 1:08 AM CDT
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go read rivals
a non-issue!
by Cyrus on
Apr 11, 2008 1:21 AM CDT
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G-Off claimed....
.....there was nothing to the Dre Jones situation. How'd that work out for him? He claimed nobody beat up anybody after the banquet 2005. Of course we needed them in the Rose Bowl. I'm sorry, but when it comes to bad news.........
by HornChamps on
Apr 11, 2008 1:40 AM CDT
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The kids in college, spring practice is over, I
don't see anything wrong with an 18 year old being out at 2:45 a.m. We don't know where he was coming from or where he was headed. Maybe he was studying for finals, having a late night snack, or maybe he doesn't have classed the next day.
It's too early, not enough facts are in, to say PB is disrespecting women or to condemn Chiles as you seem to be doing. This isn't like getting caught red-handed with 5 pounds of pot, there is a gray area here, and I think more is needed to be revealed before we deem ourselves morally superior and start ripping up an 18 year old.
by the1austin on
Apr 11, 2008 1:41 AM CDT
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Let's be fair
There's just no confirmation of what happened yet.
In my four years writing about this stuff, it's been my experience that the best policy is to wait until you know what happened before offering any judgment. If he did what you're speculating, that's something I'd comment on. Negatively.
by PB @ BON on
Apr 11, 2008 8:20 AM CDT
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Peter....
.....let me make myself clear, though I thought I had the first time.
I'm not questioning your journalistic integrity. Waiting for the facts to play out is good. However, referring to those kinds of behavior as "a minor incident" is totally inappropriate.
For those alleging she "had it coming" per a story being passed through a recruiting service, I hope you enjoy your time on Claytie Williams' election campaign.
by HornChamps on
Apr 11, 2008 2:33 PM CDT
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I'd like to know...
...what the girl did in the first place that resulted in her getting slapped.
by SelimSivad on
Apr 11, 2008 9:48 AM CDT
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Probably
by inVINCEable on
Apr 11, 2008 10:25 AM CDT
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haha
reminds me of one time i was getting dropped off at the airport. the car in front of us had been keyed with the words "slut" and whore."
the girl driving me said, "oh, that's horrible."
i responded, "yeah, i wonder what that slutty whore did."
by Vice President Coco on
Apr 11, 2008 11:15 AM CDT
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Sure..
I'd like to know what the girl did in the first place that resulted in her getting slapped.
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Claytie Williams thinks she had it coming as well.
by HornChamps on
Apr 11, 2008 2:23 PM CDT
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Nice
No charges have been filed, but the APD is already making Chiles sound like a suspect – and so is half the fan base (*cough Hornchamps).
For those in the legal profession, why is the APD blabbing about an alleged incident with no charges?
Anyone who doesn’t think the APD has a bone to pick with the athletic department needs to look no further. Their hair trigger public accusations speak for themselves.
Gimme a break from those whining about the 2:45 AM bit. Anyone with half a brain who wasn’t raised by wolves will know that college students keep late hours, study late, eat late and party late.
It’s called BEING A COLLEGE STUDENT.
by EYESofBEVO on
Apr 11, 2008 8:56 AM CDT
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All I'm saying
BEING A COLLEGE STUDENT doesn't typically mean having the cops called for a dispute. While i think we shouldn't assume guilty, it's hard to be very positive that he was without any blame. I would say we should wait for more details before we claim it to be innocent college meandering or prowling the streets to do illegal things.
by inVINCEable on
Apr 11, 2008 9:17 AM CDT
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Alleged Victim's Anonymous Friend
...who didn't witness the event in question is apparently sending emails describing the event to various newspapers. The confirmed information is that an allegation has been made against John Chiles. That information is available through APD. Alleged offenses and the alleged perpetrator are listed in a database that is accessible to the public. There's no real indication that APD is doing anything other than responding to reporters' request based on an anonymous tip.
by Bob LaBlog on
Apr 11, 2008 9:25 AM CDT
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Re: College students
party late.
I just do not think that college students on a full-ride athletic scholarship should be "partying" in the middle of the night regardless of accusations of "criminial" activity.
by bfaut86 on
Apr 11, 2008 10:09 AM CDT
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Yes
they should not get the college experience that the rest of us got to pay for. They should not even be going to class or have friends. They should just make football their entire lives for our amusement.
by Wells on
Apr 11, 2008 1:52 PM CDT
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There's a difference
... between having a life and being out at 2:45 AM, though. I don't think anyone is suggesting that these guys should be locked in their rooms when they're not playing football or going to class. But I don't think it's too much to ask that they be off the streets at damn near 3:00 in the morning.
by bassale47 on
Apr 11, 2008 2:36 PM CDT
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What kind of information officer?
Something more and of a different nature must have happened if the "pubic information officer" is involved as stated in the Texan blog story. Do we really need that kind of information (TMI)? Wonder if this is like the APDs Special Victim's Unit? If so it needs to be renamed. (Yes, I know it is supposed to be public)
by twalsh on
Apr 11, 2008 10:06 AM CDT
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What?
The job of the Public Information Officer is to respond to public inquiries, such as those from the press. A PIO will always be involved if the press is involved.
by Bob LaBlog on
Apr 11, 2008 11:07 AM CDT
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What?
I was just making fun of the fact that they left the "L" out in the word "public" in the above TEXAN blog story which made it a "pubic information officer" instead of a "public information officer"
by twalsh on
Apr 11, 2008 3:48 PM CDT
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I am just disappointed
That there is even a hint of this, this year in the off season after their move with Rucker and the way that they handled the team after the mess last summer. I am not necessarily blaming Rucker because we really don't know what happened yet, but I am sorry that Chiles put himslef into a position to even have this happen. More bad than good happens when you are out in the wee hours of the morning, and yes, as a full scholarship athlete who is our second string QB (a potential leadership role) I would expect more from him.
Frankly, they should ALL know better at this point; they've had plenty of examples in the recent past.
I hope this turns out to be nothing for John Chiles sake as well as the team's. I also hope they all keep their collective noses clean as the off season progresses this year. This team does not need these kinds of distractions anymore.
by HornsFan87 on
Apr 11, 2008 10:55 AM CDT
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Agreed
It's hard to say "he should have known better" when we don't really know what happened or how much the media has blown this out of proportion. You can't really say an 18-year-old college student should know better than to be in a vehicle with "friends" at 2:45 AM on a Thursday night.
Having said that, Chiles, given the recent criminal history of the Texas football program, should have thought twice about being out that late at night. Is it a crime? No. Does it show a lack of focus and good judgment? Yes. And the same goes for whatever teammate was allegedly with him.
You can say Mack needs to a better job of checking into backgrounds when he's recruiting. But I doubt any head coach puts more effort into trying to recruit good kids than Mack Brown. You're never going to be right about all of them.
You can say Ken Rucker (or Brown or Davis or anyone else) should do a better job of policing these guys. But at some point, kids (and that's what they are, legal adults or not) are just going to do what they're going to do. They're like people that way.
The only thing you can legitimately expect is that they get punished much more severely. Contrary to popular opinion, athletic scholarships are for one year only and are renewable at the coach's discretion. Beyond that one year, Mack doesn't owe anybody anything. If no one on the team (and I mean players, not coaches) is going to step up and say enough is enough, then Mack is going to have to make the hard decisions and start sending some kids packing, and not just the ones who commit aggravated robbery. For this team, there is no such thing as a minor offense anymore. The sooner they all get that message through their heads, the better. Until every guy in that locker room starts feeling like one false step might end his football career and his chance at an education, then we should probably get used to seeing stories like this every offseason.
by bassale47 on
Apr 11, 2008 12:51 PM CDT
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APD
APD absolutely hates UT students, especially high profile ones. If they had anything solid on Chiles, they'd have brought him in by now. Who knows if the alleged victim is even telling the truth. Did she start the argument? Did she slap one of the players and is trying to cover her a$$? Is she a spurned groupie looking to make trouble for JC? The only people who know what went down are the people who were there. I think we should let the facts play out before we burn Chiles at the stake.
by 98horn on
Apr 11, 2008 1:19 PM CDT
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I concur ...
I am hugely annoyed whenever one of these stories comes out. Frankly, I think these boys need to use their brains and avoid any and all risky behaviors ... they get a full ride, a shot at NFL bucks and more, and it's stupid to get in trouble.
That being said ... APD is notorious for hating on UT athletes. They were like that in the 90s when I was there, and they are like that now.
I am hugely pro-law enforcement. But I also have a mind and can see the decades-long pattern. The Department has leaked information when it should not have on MULTIPLE occasions, just to embarrass student athletes. Any time some spurned girlfriend cries to a cop, they blow it up into some major hate crime.
I don't know why this problem exists. But it has prompted me to always stop and wait before assuming guilt - even more so than usual.
Also, I know you guys with a chivalrous bent want to say, "never hit a girl, no matter what." In theory, I agree. But you never know ... women these days act more and more like thugs. For all we know, she was attacking him first.
by EddieTheAlbinoSquirrel on
Apr 11, 2008 10:38 PM CDT
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Never hit a girl
Don't get me wrong ETAS, I'm not advocating beating on women, but sometimes you've got to kick the bitches that need to be kicked. As far as getting into trouble, I did alot of stupid crap at UT, and so did everyone I knew. We just didn't get caught. It's part of being 19 and at college. I wouldn't deny student-athletes the same experiences the rest of us had. Unless the horns start losing, then I want the entire football team locked in Jester at 8pm every night.
by 98horn on
Apr 12, 2008 9:10 AM CDT
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I agree that one should never hit a girl..
when i was younger my girlfriend freaked out and came at me with a hot iron. No warning, no past violence, she just blew a gasket. I had to grab her arm to prevent myself from getting burned, pushed her away so that I could leave. She very easily could claim I assaulted her while in self defense. NEVER hit her, didn't swing, pushed away enough to get away but she didnt hit any objects or fall down. That's why it is important to hear what happened first.
Bottom line, that's why you don't go out at that hour because there are too many crazy people/things that are out there. So young or not, that is on him.
btw, what was she doing out at 2:45?
by thanos on
Apr 13, 2008 5:52 PM CDT
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Making a joke
I was really just making a joke about James Henry, who was qouted as saying "Bitches deserve to get kicked, so that’s what I am going to do!" He was, however, kicking a man in the face at the time.
http://www.statesman.com/blogs/conte...
Sucks about your ex. Plenty of crazy people around, esp. at 2:45am
by 98horn on
Apr 14, 2008 2:48 PM CDT
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Andre Jones.....
......had a hearing yesterday to ask the state to pay for some of his legal defense.
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Jones took part in a hearing Tuesday. He asked the state to help pay for his defense.
"I was there," Jones said, "but I did not see no robbery."
Last July, police said he took part in an aggravated robbery at a Southeast Austin apartment complex. He’s accused of stealing cash, game systems and cell phones.
"And bring out the truth about what did happen when I was in there. I know I don’t have the money to do that, and if I try to go to trial right now without them being investigated - I don’t have a chance," said Jones.
She denied his request and had a message for the teen.
"You cannot expect in life (things) to be given (to you) regardless of what kind of talent you have. You’re going to have to work to get some things in life," said Kennedy.
by HornChamps on
Apr 15, 2008 10:22 PM CDT
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LINK for Andre Jones....
.....attached. Sorry for the brain cramp.
by HornChamps on
Apr 15, 2008 10:27 PM CDT
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Details in Chiles case clarified......
.....in the Daily Texan blog.
Police officials updated the alledged "Assualt By Conduct" case in which Texas backup quarterback is a suspect to an "Assualt With Injury" according to an Austin Police Department incident report, which is available to the public online via the APD’s official website.
The location of the incident, originally given as simply "Martin Luther King Blvd.," has also been updated as the intersection of "W Martin Luther King Blvd/Guadalupe." According to the report, a new investigator has also been assigned to the case.
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Apr 15, 2008 10:31 PM CDT
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